Bareknuckle FC

simongurnick

The Bareknuckle Fighting Championships have been building up some media awareness recently with the addition of Paulie Malignaggi and tomorrow's fight between two ex UFC's, one being Artem Lobev.

Anyone here have an interest in it as it starts to come more mainstream? And should we expect to see Irish interest given the long history of bare knuckle, going back to John L Sullivan in the states and within the travelling community.

Donald Trump

simongurnick wrote: »

The Bareknuckle Fighting Championships have been building up some media awareness recently with the addition of Paulie Malignaggi and tomorrow's fight between two ex UFC's, one being Artem Lobev.

Anyone here have an interest in it as it starts to come more mainstream? And should we expect to see Irish interest given the long history of bare knuckle, going back to John L Sullivan in the states and within the travelling community.

People used to fight bareknuckle. Then they stopped doing it. For good reasons.


(I am sure people will point out that the same thing happened with headguards but I don't think the same point can be made. Bareknuckle is a different sport)


I wouldn't have any interest in it personally. Doing it or watching it.

heno86

Yeh I’d watch it...will be interesting to see how the likes of malignaggi who isn’t considered a big puncher fares, the boxing skills without gloves could mean he’s knocking people out,

brendanwalsh

Anyway to watch this in the UK ireland?

Man Vs ManUre

brendanwalsh wrote: »

Anyway to watch this in the UK ireland?

I’d like to watch it too but don’t think it’s on any roi tv sports channel.
Guess I will just watch it on YouTube in the morning. The Artem Pauly feud this week has been entertaining.

Joeseph Balls

Man Vs ManUre wrote: »

I’d like to watch it too but don’t think it’s on any roi tv sports channel.
Guess I will just watch it on YouTube in the morning. The Artem Pauly feud this week has been entertaining.

The prelims are seemingly free on fb but I couldn't find them.
So I watched a bit of older stuff on YouTube.
Hopefully it has improved since the fight I watched. Two fat lads hugging each other

simongurnick

just finished watching the main card. won't give away too much yet but do yourself and favour and watch the main event.

RonanP77

Not much skill on display in the main event but still a hell of a scrap, both guys are as hard as nails.

heno86

Just watched it there on YouTube , very entertaining..I think this style of fighting suits some people perfectly, the likes of artem

Angliru

Hopefully this is nipped in the bud quickly. It is horrible to watch. It is barbaric and frankly you'd find more skill in a tinkers cross road scrap. You're watching washed up fighters who should have retired inflict more severe brain damage on one another. I cannot support that.

heno86

The gloves are to protect the fighters hands and prevent cuts not brain damage, if anything it allows the fighter to throw harder consecutive headshots causing more accumulated brain trauma. It’s definitely gruesome enough but I wouldn’t say more dangerous in relation to long term brain injury...

Joeseph Balls

Have to say whilst it was in a way entertaining, it didn't sit right with me. Especially seeing the faces tweeted afterwards. I think Eric Donovan described it fairly how I feel.
Afterwards, I kind of felt bad for both guys.
Each to their own, but not for Me, I'll stick with boxing and to a lesser extent, mma.

Donald Trump

heno86 wrote: »

The gloves are to protect the fighters hands and prevent cuts not brain damage, if anything it allows the fighter to throw harder consecutive headshots causing more accumulated brain trauma. It’s definitely gruesome enough but I wouldn’t say more dangerous in relation to long term brain injury...

I don't know man.



Big difference between sparring with 16oz and competition gloves. Now extrapolate that to no gloves. I wouldn't think it is a good thing.


There is an argument that you might take less punches overall because you are getting knocked out quicker but not on the harder shots thing. I am sure that they are still allowed to wrap their hands for bare-knuckle?

RoryMac

Same for me, I don't know the science behind it being more or less dangerous than wearing gloves but it just doesn't sit well with me.

Also I saw the guy running the event coming into the ring after a fight and announcing that they were cutting one of the fighters purses and giving it to his opponent because of a perceived lack of action in the fight. That can't be right and seems to say the organisers are trying to create a bit of blood lust to promote the shows

Johner

It's uncomfortable viewing but it's entertaining in a sick sort of way. I'd probably watch Malignaggi v Artem.

Donald Trump

Lion Killer wrote: »

You must not be a fightin man. Let the men be men and fight. I would like to see them allow dirty fights too. Some good fights there now. No tip tap and run around. Real fights for real fightin men.

I like to see them bring in some of Ireland's best fightin men.

Ah sure let them get tooled up then before the fight while you are at it. Choice of stanley knife, baseball bat or pint bottle.




(I can't tell whether you are being sarcastic or not)

boxer.fan

Big Joe's Davy needs to be signed up to this outfit.

Angliru

Angliru wrote: »

Hopefully this is nipped in the bud quickly. It is horrible to watch. It is barbaric and frankly you'd find more skill in a tinkers cross road scrap. You're watching washed up fighters who should have retired inflict more severe brain damage on one another. I cannot support that.

Have to agree - it's more the lack of skill that annoys me. There are so many amazing skilled boxers and MMArtists in Ireland that this looks a bit "car park on a bad night" ish to me. Those ridiculous loopy overhand haymaker attempts, zero boxing movement look dreadful.

That being said Artem gave a really good interview here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_sQgQpGr7Q
Not a fan of Ariel in general - but this is a fair interview and can't not be happy for Artem and appreciate his honesty here. Glad no broken bones.

Not quite buying the "no head trauma here, it's safer with no headgear/no gloves" stchick. Don't believe there are any conclusive studies either way on that, hope its not Joe/Bro Rogan science being spread as gospel... But hope I'm wrong...

I only discovered BKFC today and tbh I did find it very entertaining but that said, surely this won't be allowed continue too long. Two lads knocking the sh!t out of each other inside of a circle coming out mashed to a pulp.

simongurnick

Cake of Tremendous Power wrote: »

I only discovered BKFC today and tbh I did find it very entertaining but that said, surely this won't be allowed continue too long. Two lads knocking the sh!t out of each inside of a circle coming out mashed to a pulp.

I think it's only regulated in a couple of states right now, but you have to hand it to the guy. I think the last sanctioned fight was in the 1890's and he's brought it back into the mainstream. It is raw and the cuts open real fast, but for many people MMA and boxing are barbaric too.
Personally, I found it entertaining but not sure I'd have my kids watching it, whereas I never had a concern watching boxing with them.
It will be interesting to see where it goes. So far it's mainly ex MMA guys but with Paulie involved we may see more boxers. Could be scary to have a couple of tough Mexicans going at it bare knuckle!

Ush1

I'd prefer bare knuckle MMA to be honest. At least the grappling would save your face a fair bit.

yourdeadwright

I hear they have to wear gloves to fight in Florida so the Artem v Paulie fight is a scam its a boxing match nothing more

fonecrusher1

Paul Malignaggi showing his class lately in the press conference for his fight against Artem. Spitting at his opponent, foul mouthed, boasting about how much more money he has than Artem. Says it all about the guy. :rolleyes:

RonanP77

fonecrusher1 wrote:

Paul Malignaggi showing his class lately in the press conference for his fight against Artem. Spitting at his opponent, foul mouthed, boasting about how much more money he has than Artem. Says it all about the guy.

Totally agree and I hate the guy but unfortunately he'll still make a show of Artem.

simongurnick

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I hear they have to wear gloves to fight in Florida so the Artem v Paulie fight is a scam its a boxing match nothing more

Really? What size?

yourdeadwright

simongurnick wrote: »

Really? What size?

There gloves with the knuckle part missing I kid you not

They look horrible,

fonecrusher1

RonanP77 wrote: »

Totally agree and I hate the guy but unfortunately he'll still make a show of Artem.

You may well be right, he'll out box him no problem. But whens the last time Pauli had a competitive fight? Few years ago. Also bare knuckle by its nature is bloody. Literally. Malignaggi has a lot of scar tissue above his eyes. It Artem cuts badly him enough it could get stopped.

simongurnick

I think Artem will rough him up. Paulie is going to the local hospital after this one.

Anyone have a link to the gloves they'll be using?
I tried searching but I just got knuckles gloves from sonic the hedgehog

Angliru

Randall Bailey added to the Paulie card. Forget he's well pas 40 and washed up to f*ck for a second, Randall Bailey is one of the hardest punchers of all time, he could seriously f*ck someone up with no gloves.

supremenovice

Will this Artem v Paulie fight be aired on TV tonight?

supremenovice

supremenovice wrote: »

Will this Artem v Paulie fight be aired on TV tonight?

Next week, its ppv only as far as i know and i'm not sure if anyone here carries it. they stream on the website though

supremenovice

Paulie is 8/15 to win. That seems incredibly generous based on boxing form. I'd have thought a 1/10 shot.

Ultimate Seduction

I'll be suprised if Artem lands 1 punch

yourdeadwright

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

I'll be suprised if Artem lands 1 punch

Paulies last fight he was horrific and that was 2 years ago aginst Eglinton who is a journey man himself , He should win but he will certainly be tested

ASOT

Artem is going to win imo. Firas Zahabi has a good video on the fight on his YouTube channel. People are overlooking some of the differences in rules compared to boxing ala the clinch and the fact artem can throw Paulie to the ground and not lose points. Artems made for bare knuckle Paulie's not imo. I think alot of people will be surprised. Or I could be completely wrong. Looking forward to it.

sc86

to watch the i have to buy it via the website only?

simongurnick

sc86 wrote: »

to watch the i have to buy it via the website only?

Legally, i believe so

Brief_Lives

That was brutal to watch...

Ultimate Seduction

This is free I presume ?

https://twitter.com/RusHammerMMA/status/1141388452786835457?s=19

fonecrusher1

Sincerely hope Malignaggi gets beaten. Sick of hearing the guy mouthing off.

Johner

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

This is free I presume ?

https://twitter.com/RusHammerMMA/status/1141388452786835457?s=19

It's on Eir Sports 2 in Ireland

Live BKFC 6 - Malignaggi v Lobov (BKFC)
Sunday, 02:00 - 05:00 (3 hours)
Former boxing world champion Paulie Malignaggi and former UFC star Artem Lobov will Knuckle Up to settle the score in a true test of Boxing vs. MMA.

Outlaw Pete

Man Vs ManUre

Will the Artem v Pauli fight be on YouTube is Sunday morning?? This is probably only way I can get to see it.

normanoffside

I don't understand how 2 year retired Paulie Maliaggi (beaten up by bum Sam Eggington in his last fight) vs Non Boxer Artem Lobov in a sport (not Boxing) gets it's own thread in this forum.
Lots of top fights just go into mega threads.
This is not boxing. This is not relevant. This Should be moved to MMA or whatever. Whatever the result of this 'fight' it means nothing. People shouldn't be giving it oxygen.

Outlaw Pete

The thread is not about just one fight, read the OP, it's about the sport in general, this bout is the first one to really get a lot of attention, could be the last, who knows.

Can't wait for this, hope it's a good fight and of course Artem wins.

The clinch and dirty boxing rules give him a chance where I think otherwise he wouldn't have one.

ASOT

normanoffside wrote: »

I don't understand how 2 year retired Paulie Maliaggi (beaten up by bum Sam Eggington in his last fight) vs Non Boxer Artem Lobov in a sport (not Boxing) gets it's own thread in this forum.
Lots of top fights just go into mega threads.
This is not boxing. This is not relevant. This Should be moved to MMA or whatever. Whatever the result of this 'fight' it means nothing. People shouldn't be giving it oxygen.

Rabble rabble rabble rabble get over it mate, if it bothers you that much don't click into the thread. Simple really.

normanoffside

ASOT wrote: »

Rabble rabble rabble rabble get over it mate, if it bothers you that much don't click into the thread. Simple really.

Sorry, it bothers me because it is unregulated irrelevant rubbish. It's sad. Paulie shouldn't be 'fighting' any more and Artem probably shouldn't either. Paulie particularly needs to cop on before he gets brain damage.
It's not a proper sport and I don't see what it brings apart from a paycheck. It reminds me of Ali getting beat up by Berbick, voyeur stuff.

Gonad

Eir sport 2 I believe are showing this

Macdarack

What's the general opinion on the Paulie Artem fight? I can't see Paulie inflicting any damage on Artem during this toe to toe slug fest. Maybe in a boxing match Paulie may have a chance as he's more technical but here that won't cut it, this is close your eyes and brawl.

but1er

Gonad wrote: »

Eir sport 2 I believe are showing this

You are correct