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Would you vote for Nigel Farage?

  • 07-05-2015 11:43am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭


    Jolly Joker or Rogue Racist?

    Love him or hate him, Nigel Farage seems to be the only party leader who doesn't blend in with the usual establishment grey brigade.
    If you were voting today, would you be tempted?

    Would you vote for Nigel Ferage 111 votes

    Absolutely
    0% 0 votes
    God no!
    28% 32 votes
    Atari Jaguar
    71% 79 votes


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    He looks like a real life spitting image character. And talks like one too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,798 ✭✭✭Mr. Incognito


    Anagram of

    Gala Reefing

    for the stoners

    and

    Free Anal Gig

    for the Liberals



    So, sure.


  • Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭Phil Mitchell


    100% Yes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    No, too right wing for me. But some of what he says makes sense. You could say that about most politicians though...except Fidelma Healy Eames.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    I'd vote for FF before his lot. Honest to god, FF.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,098 ✭✭✭MonkeyTennis


    c_man wrote: »
    I'd vote for FF before his lot. Honest to god, FF.


    Jesus man, wash your mouth out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 787 ✭✭✭folamh


    I would vote for Nigel Farage, but not for UKIP because most of their representatives are incompetent goofballs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    Don't see a point in leaving the EU


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭dinorebel


    No but would have a pint with him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 720 ✭✭✭anvilfour


    annascott wrote: »
    Jolly Joker or Rogue Racist?

    Love him or hate him, Nigel Farage seems to be the only party leader who doesn't blend in with the usual establishment grey brigade.
    If you were voting today, would you be tempted?

    A classic example of someone educated beyond his intelligence.

    The one time I have agreed with him was when he was putting a Feminazi in her place for "daring" to say that your value as a Broker is diminished if you spend too much time away from the workplace e.g through long holiday or pregnancy and even then he laboured to put his point across.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,097 ✭✭✭Herb Powell


    Absolutely not. Populist contrarian nonsense, with a healthy dose of racism thrown in.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,098 ✭✭✭MonkeyTennis


    Hey you!... ordinary person, Im like you. Are you tired of those other people??! Damn straight. We all know who we mean. Lets have a pint.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    I would share a certain degree of his euro skepticism and having an Australian style points system from immigrants doesn't sound like a terrible idea but that's about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭tonycascarino


    Yes, I'd vote for him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,928 ✭✭✭✭rainbow kirby


    Not a snowball's chance in hell I'd vote for him or any UKIP member.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,544 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Not a chance, can't stand that "Little Englander" and "Johnny Foreigner" attitude.

    They are divisive and have mad policies.

    Look what happened to LPF in The Netherlands when they got power


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,844 ✭✭✭✭somesoldiers


    Lovely man- though I get all my UK politics from watching Gogglebox so might not be the best judge


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7 Vannavolga


    I don't know much about each candidates policies but if it was a personality contest Nick Clegg would be the clear winner in my eyes. Ed Miliband the clear loser.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    No. Seems like a grand fellow though, just don't like some of what he says.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,753 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    No, and I hope he doesn't get elected.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,033 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Firstly, to state the obvious: you wouldn't be voting for Farage unless you were voting in South Thanet (incl. Ramsgate). You could vote for a UKIP candidate elsewhere, if one is standing. But the most UKIP can hope for, from this election, is to increase their representation in Parliament.

    Farage isn't a MP yet, he's hoping that will change by tomorrow, and his choice of seat is not a coincidence: Ramsgate is a major ferry port where many illegal immigrants enter the UK. To win the seat, however, he'll have to beat all the major party candiates as well as comedian Al Murray (Freedom UK Party (FUKP)) and Zebadiah Abu-Obadiah of the Al-Zebabist Nation of Ooog. :o

    Death has this much to be said for it:
    You don’t have to get out of bed for it.
    Wherever you happen to be
    They bring it to you—free.

    — Kingsley Amis



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,118 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    bnt wrote: »
    Firstly, to state the obvious: you wouldn't be voting for Farage unless you were voting in South Thanet (incl. Ramsgate). You could vote for a UKIP candidate elsewhere, if one is standing. But the most UKIP can hope for, from this election, is to increase their representation in Parliament.

    It surprises me how many people don't realise this, or they are being purposefully stupid. Even after going into vote and seeing the various names on the ballot paper, they will come out and tomorrow will be complaining that "I didn't vote for Cameron/ Milliband/ Sturgeon/ Clegg" and how dare the PM be decided without my vote counting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    No


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    I'd vote for Dick Venes (Green Party).
    Something quite sinister about Farage, though he has tapped into what is a very live issue for the blood bred English.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Yes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Not in a million years. Odious man, sinister party.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 5,028 Mod ✭✭✭✭G_R


    Mod

    Poll added.

    And I absolutely would not vote for him, for what's worth!


  • Registered Users Posts: 850 ✭✭✭Hans Bricks


    He looks identical to my mate's father who is a sound bloke. I'm a Yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,354 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Y'know that 'one way trip to Mars' project? Well, if he applied for that, and it came down to the last 50, and the final choice of one man and one woman was put out to a public vote?

    Yes. Absolutely. I'd vote for the horrible little polyp. Katie Hopkins would get my No.2.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,118 Mod ✭✭✭✭robinph


    endacl wrote: »
    Y'know that 'one way trip to Mars' project? Well, if he applied for that, and it came down to the last 50, and the final choice of one man and one woman was put out to a public vote?

    Yes. Absolutely. I'd vote for the horrible little polyp. Katie Hopkins would get my No.2.
    Here is a good reason to vote Labour then:

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/katie-hopkins-promises-to-leave-the-uk-if-labour-get-elected-wins-ed-miliband-the-battle-for-number-10-10138526.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭denhaagenite


    No, because all I really know about him is that he's anti- Europe and I'm pro. Oh, and that he likes booze and fags, that seems to be very important to everyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    I never trust a politician who pretends there's an easy solution to political and social problems. It makes me very suspicious... I'm from a country that fell for that line before, and got badly burned. Literally.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    No. UKIP just appeals to the lowest common denominator.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,500 ✭✭✭Dick phelan


    I think he personally seems alright and has made a few points i'd agree with, As a party though no way would i consider voting UKIP, definitely a sinister element to the party and no doubt in my mind a hell of a lot of it's members and in fact those standing for election are indeed racist. I also think Britain would be shooting itself in the foot of it leaves the EU.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    I'm not a fan of anti-EU policies but he's the only politician who is serious about tacking the deficit so I would consider voting for him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    dinorebel wrote: »
    No but would have a pint with him.

    He wouldn't want you in his pub.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭endabob1


    UKIP would lead Britain out of Europe which would be an unmitigated disaster, despite the little Englander "They took our jobs" mentality that is so worryingly prevalent, it would kill trade & investment and plunge the UK into a 1970's style recession, where there would be no jobs to take.

    I worry greatly that an unhealthy combination of the DUP & UKIP will be able to prop up a minority Tory government and thus give them both a disproportionate amount of leverage & power.

    http://www.cer.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/attachments/pdf/2014/pb_britishtrade_16jan14-8285.pdf

    This is a good read if you are interested in the benefits t the UK staying in Europe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,834 ✭✭✭Captain Flaps


    [REQ] thread title change to 'Are you a closeted racist?'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    This post has been deleted.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    endabob1 wrote: »
    UKIP would lead Britain out of Europe which would be an unmitigated disaster, despite the little Englander "They took our jobs" mentality that is so worryingly prevalent, it would kill trade & investment and plunge the UK into a 1970's style recession, where there would be no jobs to take.
    Conjecture, but then again so is "it will be ok to leave EU".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭endabob1


    biko wrote: »
    Conjecture, but then again so is "it will be ok to leave EU".



    Which bit is conjecture?


    UKIP's clearly stated policy is to take Britain out of Europe


    That it would be a disaster is substantiated by a detailed report.


    Farage saying "We will renegotiate the terms" is the vague nonsense that appears to be allowable without criticism or questioning.
    Where as the process of renegotiation would take years as it would not just be with the EU but rather with all of the trade partners that the EU has agreements with, and the UK (like Ireland and the rest of the EEA) currently trade advantageously under.
    While that process is taking place uncertainty would create an environment that would lead to investment being taken to safer havens putting pressure on the currency and subsequently inflation, cost of exports etc....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    endabob1 wrote: »
    Which bit is conjecture?


    UKIP's clearly stated policy is to take Britain out of Europe


    That it would be a disaster is substantiated by a detailed report.


    Farage saying "We will renegotiate the terms" is the vague nonsense that appears to be allowable without criticism or questioning.
    Where as the process of renegotiation would take years as it would not just be with the EU but rather with all of the trade partners that the EU has agreements with, and the UK (like Ireland and the rest of the EEA) currently trade advantageously under.
    While that process is taking place uncertainty would create an environment that would lead to investment being taken to safer havens putting pressure on the currency and subsequently inflation, cost of exports etc....

    It is irrelevant, because UKIP will not get many seats and Nigel Farage will not be Prime Minister.

    If Labour and the Tories were any good, Farage would not be getting any air time at all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    endabob1 wrote: »
    Which bit is conjecture?

    That it would be a disaster is substantiated by a detailed report.
    The bolded bit.

    Biased site below but feel free to present equally biased proof for your own POV. Perhaps a Guardian article?
    http://www.betteroffout.net/the-case/10-eu-myths-about-withdrawl/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭endabob1


    Just in paragraph 1 there is both factual errors and a nice subtle editing of the facts

    - If Britain withdrew from the EU it would preserve the benefits of trade with the EU by imposing a UK/EU Free Trade Agreement

    – Moreover, the Lisbon Treaty stipulates that the EU must make a trade agreement with a country which leaves the EU.

    Do you see the subtle difference in the wording here, It must make an agreement, but not necessarily a free trade agreement.

    Why would the EU allow free trade with the UK?
    The article tells us why, Because
    - The EU sells a lot more to us than we sell to them. In 2011 there was a trade deficit of nearly £50bn, which had risen to £109.2bn by 2014. It seems unlikely that the EU would seek to disrupt a trade which is so beneficial to itself.

    This is true (except the numbers are wrong in 2014 it was £72m)
    https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/uk-trade-statistics-with-countries-in-the-european-union-december-2014

    but even with the disparity, who is in the position of strength the EU (GDP $15.8 Trillion without the UK) or the UK ($2.7 Trillion) who is going to be able to call the shots on the trade agreements....

    Also since the UK economy has lost its traditional manufacturing base (of the 72m defict is in 3 categories of Electrical, mechanical & Vehicle manufacturing) so much of the economy is reliant on financial services, it's highly probable that Frankfurt as the biggest trading centre in the new EU (post UK pull out) would attract far more investment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Point is moot now - Farage has stepped down from UKIP leadership having failed to gain the seat of Thanet Sout
    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-32633719


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