Today's bargain watch that I'm not buying

blue5000 · 11-10-2020 5:32pm

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LONGINES-CAL-L994-1-IMPECCABLE/264887247313?hash=item3dac82a1d1:g:E-QAAOSwms1eW4DY

Half an hour to go on this Longines cal 994, no bids and they're taking offers. Worth it for the movement alone IMHO. If you've ever got an hour to spare the history of this particular movement and where it ended up is worth a read.

Fitz II · 11-10-2020 9:02pm

Not bad at all

https://www.adverts.ie/sports/rolex-explorer-2-16570/21804903?notification=161183eff075c012b38e5e048f9e6585-1602441856

Klopp · 16-10-2020 9:37am

NIMAN wrote: »

Half price Citizen EcoDrive, like the colour of this one, slightly different.
UK based

https://www.very.co.uk/citizen-citizen-eco-drive-grey-date-dial-grey-silicone-strap-mens-watch/1600501368.prd?utm_campaign=other&awc=3090_1602261655_94be5af5a56fcbad2fe82b1a094cc01c&aff=awin&affsrc=60612&cm_mmc=awin-_-60612-_-Comparison+Engine-_-0_27087640125&utm_source=awin&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_term=OfferoftheDay_60612&utm_content=na

I pop into thread now and again knowing i might see a Seiko i like and then this pops up, a really nice watch and tempting.

scwazrh · 16-10-2020 8:57pm

Fitz II wrote: »

Not bad at all

https://www.adverts.ie/sports/rolex-explorer-2-16570/21804903?notification=161183eff075c012b38e5e048f9e6585-1602441856

Is that not unusualy cheap?
just to add though that I know very little about Rolex pricing so I’m in no way casting any doubts on the watch itself

Fitz II · 16-10-2020 9:02pm

scwazrh wrote: »

Is that not unusualy cheap?
just to add though that I know very little about Rolex pricing so I’m in no way casting any doubts on the watch itself

For adverts it is, a good seller willing to bargain will get you to a good price on that, not the usual adverts rolex nutty prices.

893bet · 16-10-2020 9:06pm

scwazrh wrote: »

Is that not unusualy cheap?
just to add though that I know very little about Rolex pricing so I’m in no way casting any doubts on the watch itself

Irish sellers especially on adverts have either

1) a huge amount added on to allow for negotiation

2) over value their watch hugely

Or both. The above is relatively sensible but I think 5.5k is plenty for that watch. No real demand it.

Birneybau · 16-10-2020 10:49pm

Looks like Unkel is having a private chat with the seller

Cienciano · 16-10-2020 10:52pm

Not the usual thing that people here would like, but this is €200 everywhere, but €93 on amazon.de

https://www.amazon.de/dp/B00KX6GPGE/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ll1&tag=sklg-21&linkId=139826a6bde48bdf26ca79258d7941ce&language=en_GB

scwazrh · 17-10-2020 9:26am

893bet wrote: »

Irish sellers especially on adverts have either

1) a huge amount added on to allow for negotiation

2) over value their watch hugely

Or both. The above is relatively sensible but I think 5.5k is plenty for that watch. No real demand it.

Serious watch if got for 5.5k , well worth it .

893bet · 17-10-2020 9:48am

scwazrh wrote: »

Serious watch if got for 5.5k , well worth it .

Have seen a few on TZ this year at 4.5k sterling. I was surprised at the “cheapness” of it on TZ when I went for a look completed sales this year as I was half considering buying it just for the sake of it as there is some money in the fund.

banie01 · 17-10-2020 9:54am

893bet wrote: »

Have seen a few on TZ this year at 4.5k sterling. I was surprised at the “cheapness” of it on TZ when I went for a look completed sales this year as I was half considering buying it just for the sake of it as there is some money in the fund.

I'll be honest the black Explorer 2 would be the Rolex I'd be most interested in.
Dial and complication are far more interesting to me at least than a sub.
May change my long term plan if 4.5k sterling is a starter price in the UK, that's serious value IMO.

Fitz II · 17-10-2020 10:01am

banie01 wrote: »

I'll be honest the black Explorer 2 would be the Rolex I'd be most interested in.
Dial and complication are far more interesting to me at least than a sub.
May change my long term plan if 4.5k sterling is a starter price in the UK, that's serious value IMO.

Dat bezel tho?

banie01 · 17-10-2020 10:06am

Fitz II wrote: »

Dat bezel tho?

The stainless steel behemoth...
I kinda like it, and a fixed bezel for the GMT doesnt bother me too much.

And I suppose one could always go mod crazy

Not that I could.

Fitz II · 17-10-2020 10:16am

There is something with the spacing and lettering on the bezel that give me an itch, I find it hard to put my finger on it.

unkel · 17-10-2020 11:19am

Birneybau wrote: »

Looks like Unkel is having a private chat with the seller

Seller bought last year from a friend, who bought from a jeweler in UK second hand about 5 years ago. The second bezel came with the watch but the original one is still pretty decent

Watch is 15 years old but has no record of service history. Seller is holding out for 6k (for now), which is dreamer territory in my book for a private sale

893bet wrote: »

The above is relatively sensible but I think 5.5k is plenty for that watch.

Agreed. If it had a recent enough service I would have gone as high as that. It hasn't so I'll pass on this one

Deep Thought · 17-10-2020 11:51am

If it was white..

unkel · 17-10-2020 1:31pm

Deep Thought wrote: »

If it was white..

The polar (white) is arguably prettier, it is more distinguished from any other Rolex professional watch, it has a better chance to become a desirable vintage and I think it is rarer. So it is more popular and thus, surprise, surprise, there are two chances ever finding one of those with box and papers for GBP4.5k / EUR5.5k

unkel · 17-10-2020 1:40pm

Fitz II wrote: »

There is something with the spacing and lettering on the bezel that give me an itch, I find it hard to put my finger on it.

I think the spacing and lettering on the bezel is excellent, makes it very legible (not that that matters much, but it's aesthetically more pleasing). The bezel is also relatively small compared to the dial, which is rare enough for a sports / divers watch. A very manly watch, particularly the newer 42mm 216570 that you posted, not so much the older much smaller 40mm 16570 model on adverts we are discussing here (for someone with a bigger than average size wrist)

The relatively smallish dial on the yacht master is one thing that worries me about buying one without trying it on first.

Cyclingtourist · 17-10-2020 9:38pm

Here's my recently purchased Blue Seiko SRPE53 but on a blue NATO for reduced price (about £21 less than I paid).

LAST ONE !!!!

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/284019356281?ul_noapp=true

Edit: It's the SRPE63 because it's not on a bracelet. Also looks like the case is brushed rather than polished.

Ryath · 25-10-2020 10:49pm

SKX009K1 for £249~ €275 on amazon.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000275R72/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Lowest it's been in a good while did briefly dip to £229 in January £249 is nearly as low as it will go now. €242 on creation but you'll almost certainly end up paying VAT and couriers admin charge.

Can't decide, I'm tempted should have bought one and the SKX007 years ago when they could be got for less than £150 paying £250 for one now galls, second hand they are going for over €300. All Seiko's have crept up though. Even the Seiko 5 version of the SKX aren't much cheaper and a Prospex can be got for not much more. I already have a Samurai though and I actually prefer the look of the SKX's to the Turtle even though it would be the better watch. It's probably as cheap as I'll get a new one and second hand are as dear at the moment and unlikely to drop.

Fitz II · 25-10-2020 10:56pm

Ryath wrote: »

SKX009K1 for £249~ €275 on amazon.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000275R72/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Lowest it's been in a good while did briefly dip to £229 in January £249 is nearly as low as it will go now. €242 on creation but you'll almost certainly end up paying VAT and couriers admin charge.

Can't decide, I'm tempted should have bought one and the SKX007 years ago when they could be got for less than £150 paying £250 for one now galls, second hand they are going for over €300. All Seiko's have crept up though. Even the Seiko 5 version of the SKX aren't much cheaper and a Prospex can be got for not much more. I already have a Samurai though and I actually prefer the look of the SKX's to the Turtle even though it would be the better watch. It's probably as cheap as I'll get a new one and second hand are as dear at the moment and unlikely to drop.

Its a good price on a decent watch. Nice proportions to the case too. But a strapcode oyster on it and its a winner.Sterling is alright at the moment too.

scwazrh · 26-10-2020 12:05am

Fitz II wrote: »

Its a good price on a decent watch. Nice proportions to the case too. But a strapcode oyster on it and its a winner.Sterling is alright at the moment too.

I have the 007 & 009 and they really are a nice watch . I paid around €90 each for them 7 or 8 yrs ago . Have a grey crafter blue strap on the 007 and a Zulu diver sail cloth on the 009.

Definitely the best value for money watches I ever bought .

unkel · 26-10-2020 12:13am

They were great value up to about a year and a bit ago, I guess nearly 2 years ago. But sorry, €275 for an 007/009 is absurd. I have owned several Turtles some virtually brand new / unworn and I have never paid more than that for any of them. And a Turtle is a far superior watch. 007/009 is an entry level Seiko diver. I do realise they've all gone up in value, but that sort of price is just insane for a very cheap and basic Seiko.

Lorddrakul · 28-10-2020 11:18am

For anyone who has Amazon Prime, there's an early sale deal available on Strapcode's Super Engineer II bracelet for the SXK007/009/011 Seikos, with the proper 22mm round end links.

At €110, including taxes and delivery, it's a cracking deal direct to Ireland.

I use amazon.de and the translate function. Everything works the same but it seems to turn up better options than the UK site.

micks_address · 28-10-2020 11:58am

Lorddrakul wrote: »

For anyone who has Amazon Prime, there's an early sale deal available on Strapcode's Super Engineer II bracelet for the SXK007/009/011 Seikos, with the proper 22mm round end links.

At €110, including taxes and delivery, it's a cracking deal direct to Ireland.

I use amazon.de and the translate function. Everything works the same but it seems to turn up better options than the UK site.

prime is region locked though? if i have prime uk i can't use prime on germany?

any chance of a direct link?

unkel · 28-10-2020 12:20pm

I had that bracelet on a previous Seiko, I think it was my Blumo. Good quality, deffo better than the OEM ones on the cheaper Seikos

Lorddrakul · 28-10-2020 1:07pm

micks_address wrote: »

prime is region locked though? if i have prime uk i can't use prime on germany?

any chance of a direct link?

I was logged in with a Prime sub, and I did the following search:

SKX007 bracelet 22mm

It threw this up:
https://www.amazon.de/-/en/SUPER-Engineer-Stainless-Curved-skx007/dp/B00O0L9UN8/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=skx007+armband+22+mm&qid=1603886779&s=watch&sr=1-3

So, instead of €187, it came out as €110 odd.

I grabbed it straight away

micks_address · 28-10-2020 1:13pm

So what im unsure of is if Strapcode and militat are actually the same?

I have a strapcode jubile for my 007 that i bought from tz forums.. heavy but comfy bracelet

Lorddrakul · 28-10-2020 1:14pm

micks_address wrote: »

So what im unsure of is if Strapcode and militat are actually the same?

I have a strapcode jubile for my 007 that i bought from tz forums.. heavy but comfy bracelet

No idea, TBH.

I just know that the Strapcode is hugely inflated in price when buying from her.

micks_address · 28-10-2020 1:17pm

Lorddrakul wrote: »

No idea, TBH.

I just know that the Strapcode is hugely inflated in price when buying from her.

yes ive seen the militat go for much cheaper (almost half price of strapcode) and from some reports they are the same?

david · 28-10-2020 1:31pm

Miltat is Strapcode's own brand. There's 2 stores selling them on Amazon UK with wildly varying prices. Usually the Miltat listings are a good 50% cheaper than the Strapcode store for exactly the same thing.

Eg Miltat Angus Jubilee for SKX £76:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jubilee-Bracelet-Seiko-Brushed-Polished/dp/B01MUGT1RJ/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=miltat+jubilee&qid=1603887994&sr=8-3

micks_address · 28-10-2020 1:35pm

david wrote: »

Miltat is Strapcode's own brand. There's 2 stores selling them on Amazon UK with wildly varying prices. Usually the Miltat listings are a good 50% cheaper than the Strapcode store for exactly the same thing.

Eg Miltat Angus Jubilee for SKX £76:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jubilee-Bracelet-Seiko-Brushed-Polished/dp/B01MUGT1RJ/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=miltat+jubilee&qid=1603887994&sr=8-3

Which begs the question..why would one ever buy strap code?

david · 28-10-2020 1:46pm

micks_address wrote: »

Which begs the question..why would one ever buy strap code?

Looking further into it, it seems there's a third party shop called "Watch & Clock Parts UK" selling the more expensive ones that rank highest when you search "Strapcode".

When you search "Miltat" (the cheaper ones) they are direct from Strapcode UK.

Someone in their marketing dept. needs to resolve that!

Thirdfox · 10-11-2020 7:22pm

https://www.watchuseek.com/threads/fs-jlc-memovox-stainless-steel-case-c-1950s-or-1960s.5252923/

$500 for JLC alarm wrist watch - memovox... seems like it's worth a look seeing that Chrono24's lowest price is around 2k...

unkel · 10-11-2020 8:24pm

CONUS only, you need a cousin over there

Thirdfox · 10-11-2020 8:29pm

unkel wrote: »

CONUS only, you need a cousin over there

People say lots of things - you can always negotiate of you're interested and provide good references etc.

Never had an issue dealing with conus only people once they see genuine interest.

micks_address · 10-11-2020 8:30pm

Thirdfox wrote: »

People say lots of things - you can always negotiate of you're interested and provide good references etc.

Never had an issue dealing with conus only people once they see genuine interest.

few people have refused to deal with me outside of CONUS... luckily have a lot of work colleagues over there...

unkel · 10-11-2020 8:34pm

A lot of US folk are quite ignorant when it comes to posting abroad. Or ignorant in general really :pac:

Usually the same sort of people who don't have a passport and never have and never will leave the country that they were born in. I don't even bother asking if they have specified CONUS only.

Not generalising here. Great country and a lot of great people in it. Not all of them though

893bet · 11-11-2020 11:02am

https://www.wolf1834.com/offers/black-friday?p=4

Use code “earlybird” for 70 percent off.

Some eye watering expensive stuff and is just expensive once the 70 is taken off!

Fitz II · 11-11-2020 11:04am

Good spot 893....that wolf stuff is very expensive but I have seen it and its quality through and through

C0N0R · 11-11-2020 11:37am

Discount code doesn’t appear to be working for me, probably for the best!!

893bet · 11-11-2020 11:39am

C0N0R wrote: »

Discount code doesn’t appear to be working for me, probably for the best!!

Worked for me when I tried on a 600 euro watch winder

C0N0R · 11-11-2020 11:42am

893bet wrote: »

Worked for me when I tried on a 600 euro watch winder

I thought it was across the board, seems not! Question, what’s the difference between programmable and preprogrammed?

893bet · 11-11-2020 11:50am

I assume a programmable one allows you to customise how long it winds for, maybe stop winding for certain hours when sleeping. Totally guessing.

unkel · 11-11-2020 11:59am

893bet wrote: »

I assume a programmable one allows you to customise how long it winds for, maybe stop winding for certain hours when sleeping. Totally guessing.

You can do that with a €5 socket timer

Anyway shouldn't winders be completely silent? Mine is unless you put your head right beside it. And it's a cheap one from China, not a posh one from Wolf (although those are most likely also made in China :pac:)

blue5000 · 11-11-2020 12:00pm

C0N0R wrote: »

Discount code doesn’t appear to be working for me, probably for the best!!

Might be sold out already? Eye watering is right:eek:.When is black Friday?

893bet · 11-11-2020 12:06pm

unkel wrote: »

You can do that with a €5 socket timer

Anyway shouldn't winders be completely silent? Mine is unless you put your head right beside it. And it's a cheap one from China, not a posh one from Wolf (although those are most likely also made in China :pac:)

I am sure you can program more than that e.g if something had an 8 day power reserve vs a 2 day one etc.

Good ones are silent I understand. Not into them anyway. Magnet for a thief.

unkel · 11-11-2020 12:35pm

Magnet for a thief, meh, watches are insured. If a thief comes in he will get your expensive watches. Whether they are hidden, in a safe or in a winder. I like the look of winders (and my watches in them) and it is damn handy if you have a few automatic watches that you regularly wear. Just grab one and go without having to stop to set the date / time.

If I hadn't got one already, some of the cheaper Wolf ones would have tempted me, I was eyeing them up last night. Still only the 1 watch winders were even half affordable even with the big discount.

893bet · 11-11-2020 1:06pm

unkel wrote: »

Magnet for a thief, meh, watches are insured. If a thief comes in he will get your expensive watches. Whether they are hidden, in a safe or in a winder. I like the look of winders (and my watches in them) and it is damn handy if you have a few automatic watches that you regularly wear. Just grab one and go without having to stop to set the date / time.

If I hadn't got one already, some of the cheaper Wolf ones would have tempted me, I was eyeing them up last night. Still only the 1 watch winders were even half affordable even with the big discount.

Insured in a Safe. Not in a watch winder. Ring your insurance company and ask how much to add 60k worth of watches to your policy and for cover outside a safe not on the wrist.

Not to mention trying to argue with an insurer in the replacement value for something like an aquanaut which can be gotten at RRP by some people but for mortals can only be replaced grey prices of 30-40k depending on what your smoking.

So yeah. I spend the 1 minute setting the time and winding myself.

unkel · 11-11-2020 1:55pm

Not arguing with you there. If your insurer (and others) demand a safe, then you need to get a safe. For any contentious values about any of your items, you agree up front what the watch is worth. Likely need a jeweler's valuation. I'm with Zurich and a €30 one from my local jeweler (based on a 5 minute search of chrono24) which generated a higher than retail value was sufficient

Today's bargain watch that I'm not buying

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