Premier league 2020

PTH2009 · 28-02-2020 12:00am

The one year I dont go theres a 9 darter ha

Looked a very good ans lively crowd

Carpentry · 28-02-2020 12:45am

only back from 3Arena, full house, what a night

and 9 darter crowd reaction, madness

Kingp35 · 06-03-2020 9:26am

Not a single post in this thread about last nights darts. I suppose it shows just how uninteresting the Premier League is!

The main thing of note is that the 25 year old World Youth Champion Luke Humphries became the first challenger to win a match. MvG losing is also worth mentioning, seems as if he hasn't got the hang of the new darts yet.

US2 · 06-03-2020 9:36am

Kingp35 wrote: »

Not a single post in this thread about last nights darts. I suppose it shows just how uninteresting the Premier League is!

The main thing of note is that the 25 year old World Youth Champion Luke Humphries became the first challenger to win a match. MvG losing is also worth mentioning, seems as if he hasn't got the hang of the new darts yet.

And Durrant still top of the league

ThebitterLemon · 06-03-2020 9:43am

Kingp35 wrote: »

Not a single post in this thread about last nights darts. I suppose it shows just how uninteresting the Premier League is!

The main thing of note is that the 25 year old World Youth Champion Luke Humphries became the first challenger to win a match. MvG losing is also worth mentioning, seems as if he hasn't got the hang of the new darts yet.

Maybe MvG is as disinterested as the rest of us

TbL

boomdocker · 06-03-2020 10:57am

Like many posters have said before, it's just a glorified exhibition lacking in real competition edge
A few of them look seriously disinterested this year - Gurney, Anderson, MvG

There's more excitement 'watching' a players championship floor event on dartconnect than that rubbish on a Thursday night if you ask me

FarmerBrowne · 12-03-2020 10:00pm

What was wrong with Price the knob at the end of the match tonight? At least himself and Gurney both lost so happy days.

PEACEBROTHER · 16-03-2020 5:36pm

Is premier league postponed or behind closed door ?

Carpentry · 16-03-2020 6:41pm

https://twitter.com/BarryHearn/status/1238483040013357057

peteeeed · 16-03-2020 8:17pm

https://twitter.com/livedarts/status/1239624397297680385?s=21

US2 · 16-03-2020 8:23pm

Should just cancel the whole premier league to make it easier to fit in the actual ranking events that have been or will be cancelled. They've said the premier league will now be staggered over the year, finals night in October.

Kingp35 · 16-07-2020 11:54am

Here's the updated schedule for the Premier League. Six consecutive nights behind closed doors in Milton Keynes. Doesn't sound very exciting! Also they are being extremely optimistic if they think there will be a crowd permitted at the other scheduled nights.

US2 · 16-07-2020 12:36pm

Kingp35 wrote: »

Here's the updates schedule for the Premier League. Six consecutive nights behind closed doors on Milton Keynes. Doesn't sound very exciting! Also they are being extremely optimistic if they think there will be a crown permitted at the other scheduled nights.

Plus crowd noises to be played at these events and the matchplay. No escaping the Yaya Kolo chant!

Next years schedule released too, finals night is in Germany, really surprised about that

Deeper Blue · 17-07-2020 12:59am

The PL is the worst of the TV tournaments and that's with a crowd. Without a crowd I have zero interest, it's just the home tour with better production values.

Justin Credible Darts · 17-07-2020 6:04am

El Sueño wrote: »

The PL is the worst of the TV tournaments and that's with a crowd. Without a crowd I have zero interest, it's just the home tour with better production values.

Any comp that is invite , or exbo like the PL is not as good as a ranked comp where players are there on merit.

I liked the summer series players champs, as it is proper competitive ranked darts.
The pl is just a glorified invitation exbo, where its only purpose is to rake in the money for the pdc to cover overheads and pay for other events.

The PL is needed, but it dont mean its as good as some make it out, and I have never classed it as a true major like the Worlds, Matchplay, and others are.

Deeper Blue · 17-07-2020 4:12pm

I assume the pl is the biggest moneymaker for the PDC by far, I can certainly see why it's put on every year.

I've said before though they should mix it up from week to week, make it 301 one week, quadro board the next week, double start the week after that, etc. We see enough games of 501 on TV.

Justin Credible Darts · 17-07-2020 7:25pm

El Sueño wrote: »

I assume the pl is the biggest moneymaker for the PDC by far, I can certainly see why it's put on every year.

I've said before though they should mix it up from week to week, make it 301 one week, quadro board the next week, double start the week after that, etc. We see enough games of 501 on TV.

Without the PL the PDC would be unsustainable in general.

For exampl each players champs pays out £75, 000 per event, and that is played behind closed doors with no ticket sale revenue, and no entry fee.
And multiply that by the numver of events per year, the money has to be made up from sponsor ship which wont cover it,

That is why the PL exists, by calling it a "major", and awarding large prize money, it recoups it back and more through its publicity, and the PDC have even accepted is just a party crowd, as opposed to the type of crowd the Winter Gardens would get, or the crown the UK Open use to get, a crowd more interested in darts.

The PL is played in front of MAJOR crowds
It has MAJOR prize money
It gets MAJOR exposure
And make MAJOR money for the PDC

however a invitational, non ranking comp where players in the worlds top 10 are not "invited" can never be a true major in the traditional sense, in my opinion.

ArmaniJeanss · 25-08-2020 10:19am

Just a reminder that everyone's favourite event resumes this evening and will continue (almost) every night for the next two weeks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Premier_League_Darts#25_August_–_Night_7_(Phase_1)

God help whoever runs that predictions league thingy.

Kingp35 · 25-08-2020 10:30am

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Just a reminder that everyone's favourite event resumes this evening and will continue (almost) every night for the next two weeks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Premier_League_Darts#25_August_–_Night_7_(Phase_1)

God help whoever runs that predictions league thingy.

That was me

No chance I'll have to time to do it, so due to covid-19 the Premier League prediction competition has been cancelled.

On the plus side, it means people don't need to watch now.

I'll probably watch the odd match but the Premier League is boring at the best of times so I'm not sure how well this will do for Sky with no crowd etc. The spectacle is gone.

peteeeed · 25-08-2020 7:28pm

Not sure about that zip up Rob

Justin Credible Darts · 25-08-2020 9:41pm

as soon as Wright hit a 170 checkout durrants game went to piuces and he was hanging on....but wright who had the throw to win 7-4 then started doing the same.

Even when durrant who messed up in the last leg, wright made a miscount and blew it again.

peteeeed · 26-08-2020 8:52pm

Durrant very impressive

Scoundrel · 26-08-2020 9:20pm

peteeeed wrote: »

Durrant very impressive

Extremely impressive MVG doesnt like playing him delighted for him after his mouthing

Justin Credible Darts · 26-08-2020 9:41pm

wonderful result.....MVG loves running his mouth, glad durrant shut it for him

US2 · 29-08-2020 8:45pm

Peter Wright had a 9 darter tonight! Just tuning in now for Durrant v Anderson.

peteeeed · 30-08-2020 8:22am

MVG again beaten, his average was decent but price was excellent, very tight to see who will make it through. Durrant should have been beaten but again finds a way

Dillonb3 · 02-09-2020 7:43pm

Oh dear Smith 7-2 up draws 7-7 against Durrant

A Shaved Duck? · 02-09-2020 7:45pm

Dillonb3 wrote: »

Oh dear Smith 7-2 up draws 7-7 against Durrant

Absolute bottle job... such a waste of talent.

siblers · 02-09-2020 9:00pm

MVG is all out of sorts, Wright just blew him away

Justin Credible Darts · 02-09-2020 10:08pm

well done michael smith, proving me right yet again.

People whinge when I said he was over rated and the biggest choker in the game, and he sums up everything that is wrong with the pdc ranking system.
This guy is the pdc #4 despite never winning a thing of note in his dismal career.
In fact when he is introduced on stage the only title they can say he won is a world series event, and that was an invitational, glorified exbo from years ago.

US2 · 03-09-2020 10:54pm

Come on Glenn!!

https://twitter.com/WeeklyDartscast/status/1301637692808146946?s=19

Justin Credible Darts · 03-09-2020 11:03pm

winning the league and winning the title are 2 different things

ArmaniJeanss · 04-09-2020 12:46pm

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

winning the league and winning the title are 2 different things

True.
Though I actually think in this competition winning the league is of more significance (albeit less money and kudos obviously).
But at the end of the day any of the 4 who qualify have the potential to win a shortish format semi & final competition - fecks sake Barney even won it.

But winning the league part has up to now been a signal of an era of darts dominance.
I doubt Ando or GD are going to have such an era, age alone is against them. So maybe it's a different signal. Perhaps we are, for the first time since maybe the 80s, entering an era where there's no dominant #1 player.

US2 · 04-09-2020 2:12pm

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

winning the league and winning the title are 2 different things

And?

Kingp35 · 04-09-2020 4:30pm

Actually winning the league is the true reflection on who the best player of the tournament was, not winning the playoffs.

Porthallian · 04-09-2020 7:14pm

Devon Petersen and Rod Harrington on comms. Dear Lord!

Ally Dick · 04-09-2020 9:07pm

MVG was let off the hook there

ArmaniJeanss · 05-09-2020 1:33pm

So one night to go and not a lot decided.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Premier_League_Darts#Table

Wright v Smith.
MVG v Gurney.
Aspinall v Durrant.
Anderson v Price.

Durrant the only player qualified and needs just 1 leg against Aspinall to guarantee £25K bonus for first.
Gary Anderson should make it as well - only a defeat for him, and wins for Wright, Aspinall and MVG could stop him. Even then the combined margins of MVG's win and Anderson's defeat would have to sum up to 9 before he'd be in danger.
Peter Wright is in with a draw or a win. A defeat leaves him vulnerable to Aspinall and MVG overtaking him.
Nathan Aspinall definitely in with an 8-2 win, as MVG needs to 'outwin' him by 3 legs. Realistically any win will probably be enough. He'll know what target if any MVG has set him before he plays his game.
MVG could get in with a draw or even a defeat if Durrant beats up Aspinall, but as he's up before that game will want to do a number on Gurney to give himself more outs.
Price a bit snookered. Needs to win and for both Durrant to beat Aspinall (plausible) and Gurney to beat MVG (more difficult).

US2 · 05-09-2020 1:37pm

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

So one night to go and not a lot decided.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Premier_League_Darts#Table

Wright v Smith.
MVG v Gurney.
Aspinall v Durrant.
Anderson v Price.

Durrant the only player qualified and needs just 1 leg against Aspinall to guarantee £25K bonus for first.
Gary Anderson should make it as well - only a defeat for him, and wins for Wright, Aspinall and MVG could stop him. Even then the combined margins of MVG's win and Anderson's defeat would have to sum up to 9 before he'd be in danger.
Peter Wright is in with a draw or a win. A defeat leaves him vulnerable to Aspinall and MVG overtaking him.
Nathan Aspinall definitely in with an 8-2 win, as MVG needs to 'outwin' him by 3 legs. Realistically any win will probably be enough. He'll know what target if any MVG has set him before he plays his game.
MVG could get in with a draw or even a defeat if Durrant beats up Aspinall, but as he's up before that game will want to do a number on Gurney to give himself more outs.
Price a bit snookered. Needs to win and for both Durrant to beat Aspinall (plausible) and Gurney to beat MVG (more difficult).

As much as I love Van Gerwen, I'd love to see him miss out on the playoffs.

Dillonb3 · 05-09-2020 8:00pm

US2 wrote: »

As much as I love Van Gerwen, I'd love to see him miss out on the playoffs.

Looks like your getting your wish

Porthallian · 05-09-2020 8:07pm

Have to admit I didn't see that coming. As bad as he's been playing I thought he could pull out a big performance.

siblers · 05-09-2020 8:08pm

Gurney was very good, he's finishing was superb and punished MVG like Wright did. Of course Mardle and Part were too busy talking about MVG to give Gurney any bit of credit

I'd actually fancy Wright to go on and win it out

peteeeed · 05-09-2020 8:14pm

Someone could have told the greatest talent darts has ever seen that he was allowed practise during lock down, that was shocking

Justin Credible Darts · 05-09-2020 8:29pm

and some people claimed MVG was as good as Taylor........priceless.

Taylor would not have jobbed 8-2 to bottom of the table gurney, or trounced 8-1 by Wright.

dexter647 · 05-09-2020 9:29pm

Afer 16 days in a row we have to wait till October...Did I hear that right?

Justin Credible Darts · 05-09-2020 9:35pm

dexter647 wrote: »

Afer 16 days in a row we have to wait till October...Did I hear that right?

it was not 16 in a row, but know what you mean about the second half of the PL.

The play off and final were being kept for october and a crowd. That was the rescheduled date, but that could be changed or even brought forward yet again.

With the covid , there is no certainty the crowd will be allowed in late october.

peteeeed · 05-09-2020 10:44pm

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

and some people claimed MVG was as good as Taylor........priceless.

Taylor would not have jobbed 8-2 to bottom of the table gurney, or trounced 8-1 by Wright.

In terms of sheer talent I'd have MVG over Taylor any day, Taylor's achievements will never be matched
Phil's best 3 dart average is 118 in a televised tournament
Mvg is 123 which is a record
Of course that's on any given night and different formats but it still shows the heights MVG can hit
Don't forget in 2014 Taylor went on a run of 6 defeats in 7 TV appearances including a defeat to a guy with a ranking of below 100

Justin Credible Darts · 06-09-2020 12:29am

peteeeed wrote: »

In terms of sheer talent I'd have MVG over Taylor any day, Taylor's achievements will never be matched
Phil's best 3 dart average is 118 in a televised tournament
Mvg is 123 which is a record
Of course that's on any given night and different formats but it still shows the heights MVG can hit
Don't forget in 2014 Taylor went on a run of 6 defeats in 7 TV appearances including a defeat to a guy with a ranking of below 100

Seriously ? You are trying to base your argument on MVG having more talent because of one single average ? Do you realize how utterly stupid that sounds and is ?

You will dismiss 14 PDC world titles, 2 titles in a unified BDO, 16 matchplays, 11 Grand Prix's, 2 nine darters in a game, and countless records that never will be broken, and you use a solitary average to base your argument on......wow,..This is priceless.

Even though MVG did not hit his peak til Taylor was on the wane, Taylor still has the better head to head between the two, and who can forget when Taylor made the Dutch lump cry live on TV...but no, MVG has a higher average on tv so we must dismiss this.

Lets play your game then...Go look at Taylors Competition averages, and look what he done, MVG does not even come close, For example the 2009 European Championship
Taylors averages per round:
1st round - 111.03
2nd rd - 110.88
QF - 118.14
SF - 109.36
Final - 109.35.....that being his lowest average.
Taylor had a comp average of 111.54

The year before in the same competition, Taylor did this
1st round - 105.98
2nd rd - 113.92
QF - 103.27
SF - 113.33
Final - 104.35
Taylor had a comp average of 108.20 over 66 legs

Not only does Taylor have the record for the 3 highest competition averages, in fact Taylor has 7 of the top 10 competition averages.

Using your logic that MVG has the more talent cos he hit the highest average in a game, then Kim Huybrechts who hit the second highest average must be the second best.

peteeeed · 06-09-2020 8:16am

Justin Credible Darts wrote: »

Seriously ? You are trying to base your argument on MVG having more talent because of one single average ? Do you realize how utterly stupid that sounds and is ?

You will dismiss 14 PDC world titles, 2 titles in a unified BDO, 16 matchplays, 11 Grand Prix's, 2 nine darters in a game, and countless records that never will be broken, and you use a solitary average to base your argument on......wow,..This is priceless.

Even though MVG did not hit his peak til Taylor was on the wane, Taylor still has the better

head to head between the two, and who can forget when Taylor made the Dutch lump cry live on TV...but no, MVG has a higher average on tv so we must dismiss this.

Lets play your game then...Go look at Taylors Competition averages, and look what he done, MVG does not even come close, For example the 2009 European Championship
Taylors averages per round:
1st round - 111.03
2nd rd - 110.88
QF - 118.14
SF - 109.36
Final - 109.35.....that being his lowest average.
Taylor had a comp average of 111.54

The year before in the same competition, Taylor did this
1st round - 105.98
2nd rd - 113.92
QF - 103.27
SF - 113.33
Final - 104.35
Taylor had a comp average of 108.20 over 66 legs

Not only does Taylor have the record for the 3 highest competition averages, in fact Taylor has 7 of the top 10 competition averages.

Using your logic that MVG has the more talent cos he hit the highest average in a game, then Kim Huybrechts who hit the second highest average must be the second best.

Of course not, I'm saying that MVG in terms of talent is the greatest, Taylor is the most successful and always will be, I just quoted their record averages as an example of MVG 's best game being 5 points better than phils best ever average

Taylor took the sport way way higher than it had ever been, MVG has taken it higher

I'll play your game who can forget Taylor resorting to trying to put MVG off while he was throwing by trying to cheerlead the crowd ( the Icelandic clap was embarrassing) while mvg threw at blackpool in 2016 and looked a drunken mess
I'm not disputing Taylor is the greatest in terms of titles, it's darts throwing talent I'm talking about

Justin Credible Darts · 06-09-2020 9:04am

And MVG never played mind games ?

I have posted facts to back why I am convinced Taylor was supremely better.
I would not even have MVG in the top 2 as I would have Bristow ahead of him as well.Taylor has more titles, more silverware, more total majors, higher comp averages, more longevity etc.

so what are you basing this claim that MVG is the better talent on ?
, do you have anything other that just an opinion. ?

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