Kia Niro EV

Shefwedfan · 06-12-2018 11:47am

kuro68k wrote: »

The main things missing that the high spec will get are LED headlights and ventilated seats.

There is also speculation that later in the year they will add telematics and an app, like the Korean version has. They seem to have done a deal with a European telematics company already.

Kia and Hyundai signed a deal earlier this year, think it was with vodafone, I posted it somewhere. An app will be coming.

kuro68k · 06-12-2018 11:52am

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Kia and Hyundai signed a deal earlier this year, think it was with vodafone, I posted it somewhere. An app will be coming.

Yes, problem is that people have been told it won't work with the early cars. They don't have the necessary hardware and it can't be retrofitted, or so dealers have told them.

No one really knows but the confusion and lack of clarity is very frustrating.

Shefwedfan · 06-12-2018 12:28pm

kuro68k wrote: »

Yes, problem is that people have been told it won't work with the early cars. They don't have the necessary hardware and it can't be retrofitted, or so dealers have told them.

No one really knows but the confusion and lack of clarity is very frustrating.

By the time a eNiro hits the Irish shores I would expect the app to be available. We are 12+ months away.....the deal with vodafone was signed maybe a month ago

In the video above they are talking about the Niro hitting UK shores in next 2 weeks. I would guess that batch won't have support.

Our lovely Irish dealer never asked for the eNiro so they wll be last, as always so the app should be on them

kuro68k · 07-12-2018 9:44am

Shefwedfan wrote: »

In the video above they are talking about the Niro hitting UK shores in next 2 weeks. I would guess that batch won't have support.

Demonstrators only, deliveries to customers are expected for April.

kevin16w · 07-12-2018 12:58pm

Just got update from the dealer I have been dealing with for a long time on this. He has advised that Kia Ireland has officially placed orders on the long range Niro and also Soul too. They will be delivered in March and my name is on one. Literally just heard and have gone back requesting if demo models in March or if it will be a car for me.
I am expecting demos only if Uk only getting private cars in April.

Edit:
Response from dealer - 7 cars for test in feb but wont be long range, Then the official order has been decided and declared as high range for March which went through this week

kuro68k · 07-12-2018 1:13pm

kevin16w wrote: »

Response from dealer - 7 cars for test in feb but wont be long range, Then the official order has been decided and declared as high range for March which went through this week

Any word on spec? The UK ones are a disappointingly mid range.

kevin16w · 07-12-2018 1:43pm

He couldnt confirm but expects to be same as the UK spec. I can live with the UK spec. Only small disappointments and i can live with them.

Shefwedfan · 07-12-2018 2:20pm

kuro68k wrote: »

Any word on spec? The UK ones are a disappointingly mid range.

It's better than the Kona....I would accept it to replace the eGolf. i wouldn't take the Kona spec

unkel · 07-12-2018 2:31pm

It has active cruise control and lane keep assist (second level autonomous driving) as standard? Those are the most important things (to me anyway)

Pity it doesn't have LED headlights, but that would not be a deal breaker to me

Shefwedfan · 07-12-2018 3:00pm

unkel wrote: »

It has active cruise control and lane keep assist (second level autonomous driving) as standard? Those are the most important things (to me anyway)

Pity it doesn't have LED headlights, but that would not be a deal breaker to me

Does the Leaf v1 not come with standard bulbs and you can swap them? or am I losing it? thought I seen something online

I do like my LED headlights but not a huge factor

ACC and LKA I would need

daheff · 07-12-2018 4:07pm

kevin16w wrote: »

Just got update from the dealer I have been dealing with for a long time on this. He has advised that Kia Ireland has officially placed orders on the long range Niro and also Soul too. They will be delivered in March and my name is on one. Literally just heard and have gone back requesting if demo models in March or if it will be a car for me.
I am expecting demos only if Uk only getting private cars in April.

Edit:
Response from dealer - 7 cars for test in feb but wont be long range, Then the official order has been decided and declared as high range for March which went through this week

any indication of expected price?

rocky · 07-12-2018 6:57pm

Fully charged review the UK spec eNiro - in Korea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR5sDwF5aBM

Shefwedfan · 07-12-2018 7:55pm

rocky wrote: »

Fully charged review the UK spec eNiro - in Korea

We going to post the same video every page:P

kuro68k · 08-12-2018 10:32am

UK is getting one spec, £33k, with Lane Follow Assist (level 2 autonomy).

That's £33k after the £3500 grant...

Shefwedfan · 08-12-2018 12:09pm

kuro68k wrote: »

UK is getting one spec, £33k, with Lane Follow Assist (level 2 autonomy).

That's £33k after the £3500 grant...

Hate to repeat myself but I did post less than 10 posts ago

First Edition EV

From £32,995* (after. PiCG deduction)

- 17" Alloy Wheels
- 7" Supervision Cluster with TFT LCD Colour Display
- 8-speaker JBL® Premium Sound System
- Smart Key & Button Start
- Black Leather Upholstery **
- Electric Parking Brake with Autohold
- Lane Following Assist
- Smart Cruise Control w/ Stop & Go
- Lane Keeping Assist with Driver Attention Waring & High Beam Assist
- Forward Collision-Avoidance Assist (Car/Ped/Cyc) (FCA)
- *PiCG = Plug-in Car Grant (£3,500 deduction from the original OTR price of £36,495 )

grogi · 08-12-2018 7:47pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Hate to repeat myself but I did post less than 10 posts ago

First Edition EV

From £32,995* (after. PiCG deduction)

- 17" Alloy Wheels
- 7" Supervision Cluster with TFT LCD Colour Display
- 8-speaker JBL® Premium Sound System
- Smart Key & Button Start
- Black Leather Upholstery **
- Electric Parking Brake with Autohold
- Lane Following Assist
- Smart Cruise Control w/ Stop & Go
- Lane Keeping Assist with Driver Attention Waring & High Beam Assist
- Forward Collision-Avoidance Assist (Car/Ped/Cyc) (FCA)
- *PiCG = Plug-in Car Grant (£3,500 deduction from the original OTR price of £36,495 )

That's for 64kWh battery?

unkel · 08-12-2018 8:37pm

grogi wrote: »

That's for 64kWh battery?

Yep. We have confirmed that too several times on the last few pages

Shefwedfan · 08-12-2018 9:58pm

To be fair, as it will have apple play then it has the spec I require, I don't think I need anything else....well apart from an app which I would really really love....

I contacted the local dealer. He is trying to flog me the PHEV again.....

In terms of when I could order BEV, he has no idea. He is asking Kia....he said early next year for a few in Ireland for press use, they hope that dealers will get hands-on for a roadshow type event.

ewj1978 · 09-12-2018 11:51am

Watched the Fully charged episode with the Uk version being driven in South Korea. this car is miles better than the KONA and If KIA are undercutting its sister company they'll be on a winner.

icom · 09-12-2018 3:27pm

ewj1978 wrote: »

Watched the Fully charged episode with the Uk version being driven in South Korea. this car is miles better than the KONA and If KIA are undercutting its sister company they'll be on a winner.

I'll be trading in my Leaf 40 for one as soon as they become available, that was always the plan.

liamog · 09-12-2018 4:42pm

If Kia stick to the UK spec here I'll be more than happy. Looks like Hyundai Ireland asked people why they didn't buy the Ioniq instead of figuring it out why it was so popular from the ones that did.

From the Kona thread it seems like the high price and low tech is costing them sales.

ewj1978 · 09-12-2018 5:05pm

If KIA, and it looks like they are, are only shipping 1 spec RHD model then I wouldn't see them changing it for Ireland.

Shefwedfan · 09-12-2018 5:32pm

ewj1978 wrote: »

If KIA, and it looks like they are, are only shipping 1 spec RHD model then I wouldn't see them changing it for Ireland.

Its a launch edition for the UK, one spec due to availability. So Ireland will get the same.

Longer term the UK I would expect will get a choice of spec, Ireland will probably stick to a single spec

The launch edition spec is good....

Shefwedfan · 09-12-2018 5:35pm

icom wrote: »

I'll be trading in my Leaf 40 for one as soon as they become available, that was always the plan.

You will sell your L40 no problem

I would expect loads of people are sitting waiting to see what the L40 are coming in for second hand

grogi · 09-12-2018 11:22pm

unkel wrote: »

Yep. We have confirmed that too several times on the last few pages

That makes it exactly €37995 RRP in here... Loads of money, but is it too much?

peposhi · 10-12-2018 3:41am

grogi wrote: »

That makes it exactly €37995 RRP in here... Loads of money, but is it too much?

Nope for what you’re getting imo

thelikelylad · 10-12-2018 12:10pm

Autogefühl's e-Niro review.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccSxZ7BXfTo

Shefwedfan · 10-12-2018 2:09pm

Good review, personally I like it because it doesn't shout "look at me I drive an electric car"

KCross · 11-12-2018 6:53pm

There was a motoring section on Pat Kenny this morning and the lady talking (cant remember who she was but she was a motoring journalist) and she spoke about the Kona EV and eNiro and she gave the correct Kona price (€37k) and then mentioned that the eNiro wasnt due until 192 and she gave the correct range of the 64kWh version and that the price was "expected to be ~€33k after grants"!

I dont know where she got that info from but everything else she said was accurate.

It does seem way too low though, even if they gave us a Paddy spec version, so I'm not holding my breath but I will cross my fingers!

bonoman66 · 11-12-2018 8:10pm

KCross wrote: »

There was a motoring section on Pat Kenny this morning and the lady talking (cant remember who she was but she was a motoring journalist) and she spoke about the Kona EV and eNiro and she gave the correct Kona price (€37k) and then mentioned that the eNiro wasnt due until 192 and she gave the correct range of the 64kWh version and that the price was "expected to be ~€33k after grants"!

I dont know where she got that info from but everything else she said was accurate.

It does seem way too low though, even if they gave us a Paddy spec version, so I'm not holding my breath but I will cross my fingers!

Geraldine Herbert

Fast Forward (drag the playback marker at the top of the screen to almost the 85-90% mark from left to right & that segment of the show is there...)

https://www.newstalk.com/listen_back/13240/49791/11th_December_2018_-_The_Pat_Kenny_Show_Part_3/

unkel · 11-12-2018 8:30pm

KCross wrote: »

mentioned that the eNiro wasnt due until 192 and she gave the correct range of the 64kWh version and that the price was "expected to be ~€33k after grants"!

I dont know where she got that info from but everything else she said was accurate.

She didn't get the range right (it's 455km not 485km)! Not a hope of the price being just €33k either I'm afraid. Bit disappointed that she only mentioned the ESB plans, not Ionity, when they were discussing the lack of fast chargers.

That said she was pretty factual in the interview and I generally find her articles well researched and professional. Which can not be said for many articles written by her (mostly male) fellow Irish motoring journos...

Shefwedfan · 11-12-2018 8:54pm

KCross wrote: »

There was a motoring section on Pat Kenny this morning and the lady talking (cant remember who she was but she was a motoring journalist) and she spoke about the Kona EV and eNiro and she gave the correct Kona price (€37k) and then mentioned that the eNiro wasnt due until 192 and she gave the correct range of the 64kWh version and that the price was "expected to be ~€33k after grants"!

I dont know where she got that info from but everything else she said was accurate.

It does seem way too low though, even if they gave us a Paddy spec version, so I'm not holding my breath but I will cross my fingers!

Not a hope in hell it will be selling for 33k. Sure the hybrid is at 33k....

KCross · 11-12-2018 9:01pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Not a hope in hell it will be selling for 33k. Sure the hybrid is at 33k....

Sure everything will be coming down in price in readiness for the VW onslaught in 2020!

Shefwedfan · 11-12-2018 9:03pm

KCross wrote: »

Sure everything will be coming down in price in readiness for the VW onslaught in 2020!

Everything doesn't have to revolve around VW :eek:

I know your all closet VW fans but sometimes it is better to have a look at other options

unkel · 11-12-2018 9:52pm

Review in the Irish Times today by Neil Briscoe. Pretty factual article although he gives the car just 3 out of 5 stars. Which seems harsh as the only thing he doesn't seem to like is the handling which he reckons is a bit dull. What would really help in an article like this is to compare what a similar diesel car costs to buy and in fuel. Most people have no idea that they would save 80-90% in fuel alone with an EV.

Linky

KCross · 11-12-2018 10:00pm

unkel wrote: »

Review in the Irish Times today by Neil Briscoe. Pretty factual article although he gives the car just 3 out of 5 stars. Which seems harsh as the only thing he doesn't seem to like is the handling which he reckons is a bit dull. What would really help in an article like this is to compare what a similar diesel car costs to buy and in fuel. Most people have no idea that they would save 80-90% in fuel alone with an EV.

Linky

Interesting he mentioned the same €33k figure but for the short range version, so maybe Ms Herbert is singing off the same hymn sheet but just mentioned the wrong price for the long range car.

€33k and €37k seem likely prices.

Shefwedfan · 11-12-2018 10:15pm

Funny all these reviews coming out when Kia dealer said the press version would be coming in Feb for the reviews.

I doubt all the press will run another set of articles in Feb next year after they test drive in Ireland

Mike9832 · 11-12-2018 11:24pm

KCross wrote: »

Sure everything will be coming down in price in readiness for the VW onslaught in 2020!

Haha ðŸ˜‚

True that

Round Cable · 12-12-2018 10:14am

KCross wrote: »

Interesting he mentioned the same €33k figure but for the short range version, so maybe Ms Herbert is singing off the same hymn sheet but just mentioned the wrong price for the long range car.

€33k and €37k seem likely prices.

Seems to be confirmed in the indo, €33k for 39.2kwh and €37k for 64kWh version. Well worth the 4k extra to be honest.

https://amp.independent.ie/life/motoring/car-news/kia-going-from-zero-to-eniro-with-major-electric-drive-and-soul-ev-is-on-way-too-37616101.html

Also interesting to note that Kia are dropping the hybrid Niro as the price gap with the plug-in hybrid is so small. With the current grants available I'm surprised Toyota have not embraced the plug-in hybrid.

eagerv · 12-12-2018 10:43am

Perhaps i am being over cynical, but flying the Journos down to the south of France to test a well equipped Niro 64 looks so much better than waiting until grey cold Feb to test a stripped down version here...

And 37K for the version they tested?
I don't believe it:)

icom · 12-12-2018 12:34pm

eagerv wrote: »

Perhaps i am being over cynical, but flying the Journos down to the south of France to test a well equipped Niro 64 looks so much better than waiting until grey cold Feb to test a stripped down version here...

And 37K for the version they tested?
I don't believe it:)

Good point, let's see what they send over as demos in February.

Fingers crossed it's a better spec than the Kona and that the price mentioned is correct.

kuro68k · 13-12-2018 9:41am

On days like this I think the lack of an app for remote heating is a really big loss. Such a massive downgrade from my old Leaf.

Miscreant · 13-12-2018 12:38pm

Round Cable wrote: »

Seems to be confirmed in the indo, €33k for 39.2kwh and €37k for 64kWh version. Well worth the 4k extra to be honest.

I doubt they will be bringing the 39.2kwh version here seeing as Hyundai didn't do that for the Kona so we will be looking at the higher end of the €37K, throw in the metallic paint and "delivery related charges" and it will be pretty close to the €40k that people are predicting.
I will be interested to see what the final spec will be as the Kona seems to have been hobbled with a lower spec (no HUD, LED headlights and so on) so fingers crossed Kia won't follow suit. If the eNiro works out to be the same spec as the UK version then I might be persuaded to chop in the hybrid and go full leccy.

Shefwedfan · 13-12-2018 12:41pm

Round Cable wrote: »

Seems to be confirmed in the indo, €33k for 39.2kwh and €37k for 64kWh version. Well worth the 4k extra to be honest.

https://amp.independent.ie/life/motoring/car-news/kia-going-from-zero-to-eniro-with-major-electric-drive-and-soul-ev-is-on-way-too-37616101.html

Also interesting to note that Kia are dropping the hybrid Niro as the price gap with the plug-in hybrid is so small. With the current grants available I'm surprised Toyota have not embraced the plug-in hybrid.

The 39kWh is not going to UKo I very much doubt it will make it to Ireland. I doubt they will even make a RHD version

Round Cable · 13-12-2018 1:54pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

The 39kWh is not going to UKo I very much doubt it will make it to Ireland. I doubt they will even make a RHD version

I would doubt it too, considering the options the UK has on the Kona compared to Ireland.

The article even says that Kia expect most to go for the 64kWh version, so why bother with the shorter-range model?

Old diesel · 22-12-2018 9:50pm

eNiro is starting to go out on test with UK reviewers.

Driving electric (offshoot of Auto Express AFAIK) had one on review on youtube.

The reviewer liked it - reckons it's a bit better then Kona due to a nicer/better interior and equipment.

She alluded to getting 250 miles real world range.

Was right hand drive UK registered car and on that same track (Millbrook????) that you see on many UK youtube reviews.

Shefwedfan · 23-12-2018 10:40pm

Anyone hear about #frozengate in regards to Niro?

Old diesel · 23-12-2018 10:53pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Anyone hear about #frozengate in regards to Niro?

Apart from Bjorn no I havent.

However a UK Kona Owner youtuber who has a 64 kw had a 39 kwh on test from Hyundai and had characteristics not too disimilar with the 39 kwh Kona.

Edit Bjorn himself actually has a Niro on loan again from Kia for 6 days. So perhaps further indications will emerge as how big an issue this is.

Perhaps Kia have figured a solution as it seems unusual to get the Niro on test again so soon.

grogi · 23-12-2018 11:00pm

What's the #frozengate? I looked for the twitter handle, but came empty...

Old diesel · 23-12-2018 11:07pm

grogi wrote: »

What's the #frozengate? I looked for the twitter handle, but came empty...

Basically at low ambient temps the 64 kwh Kia and Hyundai battery is arriving at the first charge or 2 on a trip at too cool a battery temperature to give full speed charge.

I've forgotten what speed Bjorn was getting - might have been 30 kw when battery too cold.

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