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    #32
    victor8600
    Registered Users Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭victor8600


    tuxy wrote: »
    Is it not the same thing just different generation?

    Exactly. Somebody has to peddle stuff to the public. I do not know about you, but I do not watch TV, nor do I buy papers or glossy magazines (though I am still subscribed to a popsci magazine).

    So how do adverts reach me? Through Youtube, Google search, FB etc. Instagram would be the equivalent of a glassy magazine of old, with some articles in-between full page ads sporting young women in sparse clothing.


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    #33
    Bob Harris
    Registered Users Posts: 3,462 ✭✭✭Bob Harris


    I have a word game app with a chat feature. My profile pic is of the dog and every so often I'll get a game invite then a message often asking if I'm male or female. If I answer and say male then I'm blocked straight away. Wrong answer it seems. I've had one fella ask where I am, telling me I'm a beautiful woman, blah, blah, blah.

    If anyone is surprised by women flaunting themselves on Instagram getting messages then you'll surely be amazed at the sleazy messages men send on word games.


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    #34
    victor8600
    Registered Users Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭victor8600


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    ......."Ur looking gud, wouldn't mind a bit of that", for example -- FFS, man, you're about 45, bald and probably impotent, and your profile pic is of your children.

    What do they even think is going to come of it?

    Well said. This behaviour is just stupid. What if some google algorithm is tracking his activities online, building his profile based on what he posts and then selling the data to insurance companies and to his wife's divorce lawyer.

    If the governments would allow it, it is possible now to build a person's profile, calculate how much money can be squeezed out of him and automatically e-mail the details of his sleazy behaviour to his wife's solicitor alongside with the case revenue projections.


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    #35
    Sugar Free
    Registered Users Posts: 1,639 ✭✭✭Sugar Free


    As someone else alluded to, I feel for the vast majority of them their photos rarely accurately represent their actual income. I’m sure if you’re Emily Ratajkowski with millions of followers then you can legitimately make a good income off Instagram alone. For many though I was always under the impression that Instagram was just a landing page for their other activities which were the real earners i.e. modeling/escorting.

    There was a reddit ama with a fitness model who was very up front that the vast bulk of her income came from sex, then modeling and only a small portion directly from Instagram. And this was someone with followers in the hundreds of thousands. I think there’s a huge underbelly to a lot of Instagram models’ profiles that people don’t realize.

    Personally I’ve no problem with it. It’s undoubtedly a very limited shelf life for a lot of these girls and if they’re comfortable with what they’re doing and able to make a good living from it then so be it. My only fear is for the young teenagers that lack the maturity to question how so many people without an obvious income source can have such a great apparent lifestyle and as a result, may feel that they must somehow measure up to this.


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    #36
    [Deleted User]
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    jimbobaloobob wrote: »
    Influencers isnt that the term.


    Does anyone check how effective it might be?

    if companies are willing to boost the economy by throwing money at marketing in any form, let them do so.

    its good for the economy


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    #37
    jimbobaloobob
    Registered Users Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭jimbobaloobob


    Deleted User wrote: »
    if companies are willing to boost the economy by throwing money at marketing in any form, let them do so.

    its good for the economy

    Is it though? What economy is it helping?
    I'm not arguing the point by the way. It's something I never got involved with as in online marketing.


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    #38
    Bobblehats
    Registered Users Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    Instagram. Sounds like a dietary supplement for these waifs!


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    #39
    jimbobaloobob
    Registered Users Posts: 5,153 ✭✭✭jimbobaloobob


    What are waifs?


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    #40
    razorblunt
    Registered Users Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    victor8600 wrote: »
    Well said. This behaviour is just stupid. What if some google algorithm is tracking his activities online, building his profile based on what he posts and then selling the data to insurance companies and to his wife's divorce lawyer.

    If the governments would allow it, it is possible now to build a person's profile, calculate how much money can be squeezed out of him and automatically e-mail the details of his sleazy behaviour to his wife's solicitor alongside with the case revenue projections.

    That's eh ... that's not how data collection works.


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    #41
    victor8600
    Registered Users Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭victor8600


    razorblunt wrote: »
    That's eh ... that's not how data collection works.

    That's not how it works only because we have controls like GDPR in place. If those controls slip, or if we allow a company as powerful as Google but less scrupulous to exist, then it is possible. Given the access to Google's data, I personally can develop a program to mine enough data to know how much your earn, what you spend your money on, what are your social media handles and what you post and so on, unless you are really careful about how you use the internet.

    But I may be mistaken. Please do tell me how data collection works.


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    #42
    Bobblehats
    Registered Users Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    jimbobaloobob wrote: »
    What are waifs?

    Sorry, friend I’ll have to waif you on.


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    #43
    razorblunt
    Registered Users Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    victor8600 wrote: »
    That's not how it works only because we have controls like GDPR in place. If those controls slip, or if we allow a company as powerful as Google but less scrupulous to exist, then it is possible. Given the access to Google's data, I personally can develop a program to mine enough data to know how much your earn, what you spend your money on, what are your social media handles and what you post and so on, unless you are really careful about how you use the internet.

    But I may be mistaken. Please do tell me how data collection works.

    Excellent, we're in agreement.


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    #44
    bodice ripper
    Registered Users Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    Vacuous nonsense, lapped up by equally vacuous fools. May their whole sordid subculture crumble around them.


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    #45
    Fitz*
    Registered Users Posts: 15,131 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    This isn't even the worst of it.

    There is a subscription site called OnlyFans that a lot of 'instagram models' are now using, which charges users a set fee to subscribe to their posts every month. Can be anywhere from $5 - $20 per month just to see them post pictures or videos of them and their daily life. There are a lot of 'regular' girls now promoting their sites on instagram etc to get people to sign up to them. There is no censorship on that platform so you can imagine what type of images / videos are being published. I have read that the 'regular' girls who are publishing content are as young as 20 and choosing to pursue that as a career rather than normal jobs as the income is so high, regular and easy.

    Now I appreciate what instagram does and I use and enjoy the app myself but I really hate how it became monetized and all these 'influencers' have started a career of just talking sh1te into a phone camera and expect to get paid for it and receive everything for free. It's so fake with all the fake reviews etc. And what's worse is that young minds genuinely think that this is a viable career path to go down. And now with further subscription sites, it's going to get even worse.


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    #46
    Wabbit Ears
    Registered Users Posts: 3,042 ✭✭✭Wabbit Ears


    Instagram models are just the modern version of strippers. No contact teasing to desperate men who are happy to pay to ogle.


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    #47
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    The models themselves don't bother me; as someone mentioned, it's the middle-aged men with the cringe-inducing comments that are the real tragedy here.

    I follow someone on Insta who isn't a model, but she's fairly well known and is good-looking. Guys are always leaving vaguely seady comments about her appearance, even if it's just a picture of a mates' birthday event or whatever.

    For sure, everybody loves compliments, but I'm amazed that some people don't have the self-awareness to suspect that they might come-off a little leery. "Ur looking gud, wouldn't mind a bit of that", for example -- FFS, man, you're about 45, bald and probably impotent, and your profile pic is of your children.

    What do they even think is going to come of it?

    In reality, they are courting this attention on purpose. The lure of attention is too much for them and it is clear that girls are looking to be creeped on by posting up skimpy outfits and suggestive poses.


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    #48
    take everything
    Registered Users Posts: 9,800 ✭✭✭take everything


    What happens to these people in 15-20 years time when their looks fade and guys no longer salivate over them.


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    #49
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    take everything wrote: »
    What happens to these people in 15-20 years time when their looks fade and guys no longer salivate over them.

    They retire just like you would from any other job. If they have done well then they will be married to a man who's at least reasonably wealthy.


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    #50
    take everything
    Registered Users Posts: 9,800 ✭✭✭take everything


    tuxy wrote: »
    They retire just like you would from any other job. If they have done well then they will be married to a man who's at least reasonably wealthy.

    Retire at forty? I wish I could.

    That they find a wealthy man? I'm sure not everyone will be able to do that (although given the multitude of rich saps out there, they probably will).

    Kinda sad that that's now an aspiration for a lot of young women.

    Unless they start learning new skills.
    Are they learning new skills and diversifying. Maybe they are.


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    #51
    kowloon
    Registered Users Posts: 13,281 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »
    For sure, everybody loves compliments, but I'm amazed that some people don't have the self-awareness to suspect that they might come-off a little leery. "Ur looking gud, wouldn't mind a bit of that", for example -- FFS, man, you're about 45, bald and probably impotent, and your profile pic is of your children.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G8f7hcVG4E


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    #52
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm no expert, but what I'm taking from this is that I can just pout and take pictures of my butt self in skimpies striking suggestive poses going about my glamorous daily life, and people will shower me with money and compliments and free stuff? Sign me up!

    I'm not tall or curvaceous or stunning and I don't wear skimpy stuff or pout, and my everyday life is really quite boring and I'd rather sit around drinking tea than spend hours putting makeup on in the mornings, but apart from that I'm all set!


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    #53
    fatknacker
    Registered Users Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭fatknacker


    If you've got it, flaunt it. If you can make money from it, then do. What's the problem with it? Are ye pissed off coz no one wants to pay to see your arses?


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    #54
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    fatknacker wrote: »
    If you've got it, flaunt it. If you can make money from it, then do. What's the problem with it? Are ye pissed off coz no one wants to pay to see your arses?

    I'd agree with you, let them milk it while they can. Life is short and not everyone is going to be an astronaut. Transactions are a two way street, they only exist because there's a market for them.


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    #55
    kowloon
    Registered Users Posts: 13,281 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Candie wrote: »
    I'm not tall or curvaceous or stunning and I don't wear skimpy stuff or pout, and my everyday life is really quite boring and I'd rather sit around drinking tea than spend hours putting makeup on in the mornings, but apart from that I'm all set!

    Sure that can all be photoshopped in later. You can also give yourself a new head so you're kept anonymous.


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    #56
    victor8600
    Registered Users Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭victor8600


    fatknacker wrote: »
    If you've got it, flaunt it. If you can make money from it, then do. What's the problem with it? Are ye pissed off coz no one wants to pay to see your arses?

    The problem I have with the internet "influencers" is that they may advertise products, but they would not be held responsible for any lies, as far I as understand. They could advertise packaged bird droppings as a beauty product and tell their followers that their youthful skin appearance is due to it being smeared with said droppings and not due to the favourable lighting and the image post-processing.


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    #57
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    fatknacker wrote: »
    If you've got it, flaunt it. If you can make money from it, then do. What's the problem with it? Are ye pissed off coz no one wants to pay to see your arses?

    And, I gotta say, it is really easy to avoid these profiles on Instagram. I follow stuff I like and then other stuff related to that stuff is suggested to me. Instagram models and influencers don’t bother me because they actually aren’t rammed in my face. They ain’t hurting nobody and if they earn a living from it, good for them. I’d say that making a decent living from it is a full-time job like any other. We see the calm surface, not the furious paddling beneath the surface.

    The comments underneath are people chancing their arms, I guess!
    victor8600 wrote: »
    The problem I have with the internet "influencers" is that they may advertise products, but they would not be held responsible for any lies, as far I as understand. They could advertise packaged bird droppings as a beauty product and tell their followers that their youthful skin appearance is due to it being smeared with said droppings and not due to the favourable lighting and the image post-processing.

    But advertisements for beauty products have been blatantly airbrushed for years. Before the internet even, photos were touched up. It’s nothing new.


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    #58
    Tacklebox
    Registered Users Posts: 419 ✭✭Tacklebox


    take everything wrote: »
    What happens to these people in 15-20 years time when their looks fade and guys no longer salivate over them.

    They end up being bag ladies, frequenting AA and NA meetings,spouting on about how the fashion industry ruined their lives.

    They end up lonely and chasing young lads on tinder and bumble.

    Any guy who's with a woman because of her good looks alone seriously isn't the sharpest tool in the box.

    A woman who's intelligent and interesting is far more attractive than someone who's dull, entitled and useless...


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    #59
    take everything
    Registered Users Posts: 9,800 ✭✭✭take everything


    Tacklebox wrote: »

    Any guy who's with a woman because of her good looks alone seriously isn't the sharpest tool in the box.

    A woman who's intelligent and interesting is far more attractive than someone who's dull, entitled and useless...

    I would completely agree with this sentiment.
    Irrespective of how supposedly triggering a view it might be.


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    #60
    TheDavester
    Registered Users Posts: 3,206 ✭✭✭TheDavester


    tuxy wrote: »
    They retire just like you would from any other job. If they have done well then they will be married to a man who's at least reasonably wealthy.

    example Vogue Williams, insta model, former dj/wag/radio presenter/author etc and now married to some well to do royal family member with a rich doddy...hopefully she'll stop getting airtime with poor documentaries on RTE


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    #61
    dodderangler
    Registered Users Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Banned from Instagram so I guess I can’t have an opinion but I’ve seen lads especially lads from the east being wayyy too Pervy on the pictures.


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