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Domestic Solar PV Quotes 2020

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  • Registered Users Posts: 641 ✭✭✭Summer2020


    DrPhilG wrote: »
    Iw as going to say PM sent, but it's the same guys that rx8 used so, "what he said".

    Thanks guys for the recommendation. Are these guys good ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,453 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Well I had 3 different boardsies recommend them. And I believe it was either unkle or KCross who described it as one of the best quotes seen here.

    I'm happy so far although it's only been a few days. Producing a lot more than I expected on a crappy day in Donegal, 24kWh today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,717 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Yeah that was me. Brilliant to see that with the knowledge you gathered here on this forum and the recommendations on installers also from users on this forum, you got yourself an excellent value for money set up. Doing the right thing for your pocket, and also for the environment (and thus for the rest of us)


  • Registered Users Posts: 156 ✭✭bod71


    DrPhilG wrote: »
    Well I had 3 different boardsies recommend them. And I believe it was either unkle or KCross who described it as one of the best quotes seen here.

    I'm happy so far although it's only been a few days. Producing a lot more than I expected on a crappy day in Donegal, 24kWh today.
    Any chance of a PM also. Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭rx8


    bod71 wrote: »
    Any chance of a PM also. Thanks.

    Sent


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  • Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭Aibreann


    Hi all,

    Looking for some opinions on the following quote:

    20 JA 310W Panels
    2.4kW battery
    Solis 5kW inverter
    iBoost
    Zappi
    BER
    Decommission & removal of solar thermal glycol system(2 large panels)
    3 guys for 1 day + scaffolding for install

    €16k incl VAT excl Grant of €3k


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,849 ✭✭✭tech


    6.2kw? thats a big system


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,453 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    Speaking of 6.2kw, does anyone know how to adjust the numbers on the grant?

    My original application was for 5.4kwp but I later increased it to 6.2

    Makes no difference to grant levels but just want to keep things matching for the installer submitting his paperwork.

    Sat on the SEAI live chat system for half an hour this morning before remembering that it's a Bank Holiday in ROI. I'm in Donegal but work in Derry so my bank holiday calculations are tuned to the UK.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭rx8


    Can you not change it on the SEAI website profile page?
    https://mgen.seai.ie/Account/Login


  • Registered Users Posts: 12 Archieboy13


    rx8 wrote: »
    PM Sent.

    Any chance of recommendation ?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12 Archieboy13


    rx8 wrote: »
    PM Sent.

    Any chance of recommendation ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,453 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    rx8 wrote: »
    Can you not change it on the SEAI website profile page?
    https://mgen.seai.ie/Account/Login

    Don't seem to have the option. I can change the financial section, ie what bank to pay it to, but I don't seem to have the option to change the system details.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 tom4321


    After reading through this thread and a few others on the site I think I will kickstart the process at home....Any recommendations for installers who would work in Meath would be very helpful ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,453 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    tom4321 wrote: »
    After reading through this thread and a few others on the site I think I will kickstart the process at home....Any recommendations for installers who would work in Meath would be very helpful ?

    The guy that myself and a number of others have used is based in NI but covers the whole country. I'm Donegal, and I know he has done jobs in Kildare, Dundalk, Dublin and Limerick recently.

    PM incoming.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 THG


    Any chance of a PM also for me. Thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭rx8


    THG wrote: »
    Any chance of a PM also for me. Thanks.

    Pm sent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭rx8


    Any chance of recommendation ?

    Sent also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,453 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    rx8 wrote: »
    Sent also

    Poor Ken is going to be a busy boy, lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭rx8


    DrPhilG wrote: »
    Poor Ken is going to be a busy boy, lol

    I'd say he'd rather be busy than sitting around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭MAULBROOK


    Aibreann wrote: »
    Hi all,

    Looking for some opinions on the following quote:

    20 JA 310W Panels
    2.4kW battery
    Solis 5kW inverter
    iBoost
    Zappi
    BER
    Decommission & removal of solar thermal glycol system(2 large panels)
    3 guys for 1 day + scaffolding for install

    €16k incl VAT excl Grant of €3k

    Way over the top will PM you.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 103 ✭✭zale


    Hi guys,
    I've got a few quotes, the usual roof mounts, isolators, install, before grant, vat included etc... No battery.

    Quote 1: 4.2kwh (12 340w JA panels) + eddi = €8200
    Quote 2: 2kwh (6 QCell 335w panels) + iboost = €7800

    I have an EV with an ESB charger point but have been looking at changing this to a smart charger (zappi or similar)

    I've a few questions if someone has time.

    1. Are panels of similar efficiency & warranty the same i.e. JA & Q cell, China V Germany I think.
    2. Eddi or iboost (& does iboost have a linkable eV charger).
    3. Do people recommend a self install to keep price down so pay back is much quicker. Grant doesn't bother me.

    Cheers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 466 ✭✭phester28


    something is making this quote really high. My east west 7 panel (300W) before grant is 4.3k inclusive of vat. For a grant approved install.

    This is the basic solar package on slate so tile should be slightly cheaper so your Iboost or eddi would be in the region of 400 euro. But I have seen some companies rip people off charging 800 euro for it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 fourthoffice


    Folks, been reading this thread for the past couple of days, the amount of advice and information is brilliant. Looking for a few pointers. I currently have a 5 panel 1.25kW with a Mastervolt inverter which was installed in 2014 on a new build, the house is A3 rated with a heat pump as the only source for heating and hot water. I have a south facing roof which on my rough estimation could take 18 panels in total easily with no shadowing. I have my first EV arriving in September, Zappi charger been installed in the next couple of weeks. I have a quote (my first) from the EV charger people for a 10 panel 3.2kW with a Solis 2.5 kWp inverter for €5,995 with €600 allowance for existing system. My first question is why would I remove what I already have and cost €3,000 originally for €600 allowance, surely the best approach would be to add a 2nd array or am I missing something here. My main reason for the upgrade is not purely the cost savings that will eventually occur but also to do the right thing from a environmental standpoint.


  • Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I've exanded, 2.5kWp now, 1.7kW inverter. System is making me €1 per day, rain or shine. I reckon total spend so far < €1200

    I've also about 20kWh of batteries none of them are or will ever be grid connected.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,181 ✭✭✭championc


    Folks, been reading this thread for the past couple of days, the amount of advice and information is brilliant. Looking for a few pointers. I currently have a 5 panel 1.25kW with a Mastervolt inverter which was installed in 2014 on a new build, the house is A3 rated with a heat pump as the only source for heating and hot water. I have a south facing roof which on my rough estimation could take 18 panels in total easily with no shadowing. I have my first EV arriving in September, Zappi charger been installed in the next couple of weeks. I have a quote (my first) from the EV charger people for a 10 panel 3.2kW with a Solis 2.5 kWp inverter for €5,995 with €600 allowance for existing system. My first question is why would I remove what I already have and cost €3,000 originally for €600 allowance, surely the best approach would be to add a 2nd array or am I missing something here. My main reason for the upgrade is not purely the cost savings that will eventually occur but also to do the right thing from a environmefntal standpoint.

    So those panels are 250w each. Are the standard 1.7m x 1m size ? If so, for 600, you could buy 5x new 300w panels. You could buy a new 5kw inverter and partially fund it by selling the 250w panels privately.

    You could swap that lot over yourself. You could then just get a roofer or non-registered instsller to install an extra batch of panels up to the max permissable by the inverters spec.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,181 ✭✭✭championc


    I've exanded, 2.5kWp now, 1.7kW inverter. System is making me €1 per day, rain or shine. I reckon total spend so far < €1200

    I've also about 20kWh of batteries none of them are or will ever be grid connected.

    That's the way - if you have the technical ability, then a self install can save a fortune and be paying for itself much quicker.

    The only difficult part is the roof.


  • Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    My first question is why would I remove what I already have

    3.2kW + 1.25kW = 4.45kW


    championc wrote: »
    That's the way - if you have the technical ability, then a self install can save a fortune and be paying for itself much quicker.

    I tried to hire an professional expert...couldn't find any.

    Knowing what hardware to buy used helps.
    championc wrote: »
    The only difficult part is the roof.

    :pac:
    I cheated!

    n7MFdYf.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,717 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Home made wooden frame weighed down by some heavy logs? How did you connect the panels to the wood? And why don't you install a whole lot more panels, Sir Liamalot? Looks like you have plenty of space for it, wish I had that!

    Unless of course your electricity consumption is very low.


  • Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The logs are screwed together. I screwed proper rails on top of the logs.
    Yeah I'll be finished when I have 10kWp.

    I also have hydro, wind and a worn out fleet to attend to. One thing at a time and when the price is right. Diminishing returns from here. 2.5kW is base load offset in any weather if I expand further I'll have to look at using the power as it's generated or it'll just all be donated to ESB networks.

    Actually I've 25kWh...including all the campers and case mounted inverter-battery gensets.
    Round trip efficiency on my best setup is 60% I very much doubt that a fandango box will beat that. There's no economy in AC coupled batteries.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,717 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    So your PV is all grid connected? What powers your batteries then, hydro and wind?
    There's no economy in AC coupled batteries.

    I've told you before, you can't make a statement like that without qualifying how much the batteries cost :p

    Sure if you pay the going rate for them / eBay prices etc, you are correct. But some of us got their batteries free. Or bought batteries that we sold on some time later for more than we paid for them. In those cases, AC coupled batteries absolutely make sense.


  • Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    The battery is irrelevant. 100% power in 60% power out. How much does the power cost?
    The cost of the battery can be added later to project payback into the next generation.


  • Posts: 5,238 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Just 2.5kW is grid connected. Hydro and wind are on the drawing board only.
    All the batteries have their own solar panels or they're lifepo4 and don't care.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 gnr1983


    rx8 wrote: »
    Pm sent

    Hi, could I get a recommendation too please? Thanks!


  • Registered Users Posts: 103 ✭✭zale


    Hi guys, Ive got a few quotes now & more coming but I'm also very interested in self build. Can anyone suggest or pm sites/companies that sell solar pv systems/mounts without the install.
    Thx


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,181 ✭✭✭championc


    zale wrote: »
    Hi guys, Ive got a few quotes now & more coming but I'm also very interested in self build. Can anyone suggest or pm sites/companies that sell solar pv systems/mounts without the install.
    Thx

    midsummer.ie and solartricity.ie are both good and we'll stocked

    Mounts cabling and bits could be a grand at most, and then you simply have the inverter and the panels.

    The only thing with a self build is that you need to send in an NC6 Form to ESB Networks, and this must have an electricians name on it. But this electrician does NOT have to be SEAI certified


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  • Registered Users Posts: 103 ✭✭zale


    championc wrote: »
    midsummer.ie and solartricity.ie are both good and we'll stocked

    Mounts cabling and bits could be a grand at most, and then you simply have the inverter and the panels.

    The only thing with a self build is that you need to send in an NC6 Form to ESB Networks, and this must have an electricians name on it. But this electrician does NOT have to be SEAI certified

    Have an electrician in the family. Will give them a look & do up the figures. Thx ðŸ‘


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,844 ✭✭✭rx8


    gnr1983 wrote: »
    Hi, could I get a recommendation too please? Thanks!

    Sent now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,849 ✭✭✭tech


    just wondering could you use an APC UPS 2000 battery to store power created?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,181 ✭✭✭championc


    tech wrote: »
    just wondering could you use an APC UPS 2000 battery to store power created?

    That would be an off grid type unit and is designed to discharge when the mains power is lost, so would not discharge when the mains is still operational


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,849 ✭✭✭tech


    but if you removed he battery form the unit, could you some how to connect it up to divert power to it?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,181 ✭✭✭championc


    tech wrote: »
    but if you removed he battery form the unit, could you some how to connect it up to divert power to it?

    Storing the power is what it does. The problem is for discharging that power. So while you could plug any number of appliances into it, and it be drawing off power, it will be charging as it discharges, and will likely use about 20% extra power in this process.

    You could micro-manage it by having a timed switch on the feed, to turn it on during night rate or during good solar and turning it off during peak rate time, but that would be crazy carry on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 321 ✭✭E30M3


    Installed this week

    16 350w LONGI panels, four west facing and 12 East facing (Solar Thermal on south facing already for the last 14 years).

    5KW Solis Hybrid Inverter

    2 2.4 KWH Pylontech batteries

    Solic 200 Water Diverter

    Above on a natural Slate 2 storey roof. Install took 2 full days with 3 men.

    South East Area

    Additional 5 year warranty on Diverter.

    7,300 after grant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,424 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Hi. We have a new build and considering leaving ducting and what ever else is required for a solar install at a later stage when finances are better.

    We will be opting for a ground mount installation.

    Where does the cabling connect into the house? What lifespan is on the new panels?

    Does it connect at the meter box where the mains comes into the property?
    What do I need to put in place before I lay the surface outside the house?

    Is there an upper limit on the installation size (kW).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,717 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    The house is built already or are you still building it? If the latter you should install the hooks and the railings for the panels while they are doing the roof. Or ideally, install the panels too. They really are cheap these days.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 Tazzman


    E30M3 wrote: »
    Installed this week

    16 350w LONGI panels, four west facing and 12 East facing (Solar Thermal on south facing already for the last 14 years).

    5KW Solis Hybrid Inverter

    2 2.4 KWH Pylontech batteries

    Solic 200 Water Diverter

    Above on a natural Slate 2 storey roof. Install took 2 full days with 3 men.

    South East Area

    Additional 5 year warranty on Diverter.

    7,300 after grant.

    Can you tell me where you got this quote please,
    I got a quote of nearly 10k for 14 panels with diverter on slate roof after grant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,424 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    unkel wrote: »
    The house is built already or are you still building it? If the latter you should install the hooks and the railings for the panels while they are doing the roof. Or ideally, install the panels too. They really are cheap these days.

    The house is built and inhabited. The panels are to be ground mounted and they are close to finishing the ground works.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,717 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Ground mounted is far more expensive than roof fitted, takes up space and has a higher chance of being damaged. What made you decide to go ground mounted?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭garo


    Hi. We have a new build and considering leaving ducting and what ever else is required for a solar install at a later stage when finances are better.

    We will be opting for a ground mount installation.

    Where does the cabling connect into the house? What lifespan is on the new panels?

    Does it connect at the meter box where the mains comes into the property?
    What do I need to put in place before I lay the surface outside the house?

    Is there an upper limit on the installation size (kW).

    The panels need to connect to your inverter and then the inverter connects to your meter/fusebox. So you need to think about where you will keep your inverter. All you need is ducting right now so you can run power and cat5 cables without having to dig anything up. If you plan on a hot water diverter or a smart charger like Zappi, think about ducting to those too if needed.
    The panels have a claimed life of 25-30 years but they do degrade during that time albeit at a slow pace (well under 1% p.a.) Upper limit on ESB approved install size is 6kW but you can have more than 6kW of panels if your inverter is rated at 6kW or less.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,181 ✭✭✭championc


    I'd be amazed if anyone on here will keep panels longer than 10 years. Mine are all 300's. If I could get 400's for the same size as current 300's, I'd be chomping at the bit to swap them out. I'd say that the 400's in the same size of my current 300's will be available within 5 years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,717 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    championc wrote: »
    I'd be amazed if anyone on here will keep panels longer than 10 years. Mine are all 300's. If I could get 400's for the same size as current 300's, I'd be chomping at the bit to swap them out. I'd say that the 400's in the same size of my current 300's will be available within 5 years

    Only a few lunatics like yourself or myself with very limited roof space would even consider doing something like that :p

    The majority of PV owners with panels on their high roof will leave them well alone, forever.


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