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General Chat 2019/20

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  • #3952
    siblers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,595 ✭✭✭✭siblers


    km79 wrote: »
    Might give that a go after at least one year out

    Just want to say thanks to everyone . I’ve really enjoyed it and will miss it.
    Sadly real life is going to be very busy next 12 months and I am an in it to win it kind of guy !

    Enjoy the tinkering next month !
    My transfer this week is km79 out nobody in
    :(

    I'll miss the rollercoaster of emotions you would go through in each gameweek, I think we could all relate to it.

    And the conversations you would have with yourself over transfers :pac:


  • #3953
    Scorpion Sting
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,164 ✭✭✭✭Scorpion Sting


    km79 wrote: »
    Might give that a go after at least one year out

    Just want to say thanks to everyone . I’ve really enjoyed it and will miss it.
    Sadly real life is going to be very busy next 12 months and I am an in it to win it kind of guy !

    Enjoy the tinkering next month !
    My transfer this week is km79 out nobody in
    :(

    I hope you reconsider but I completely understand if you want to take a year out of the game as it does take a lot out of you over the 9 months (or 1 year as this season was!).


  • #3954
    Shedite27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,426 ✭✭✭Shedite27


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Martial will be a striker next season and dearer probably, rashford could be interesting as a midfielder

    I reckon there could be some big moves this year, Mane and Salah, Martial, Son could all end up as strikers next season.


  • #3955
    rgace
    Closed Accounts Posts: 479 ✭✭rgace


    Is there anywhere that I can find information on how they value players at the beginning of the season?

    I assume just from looking at KDB's price this year that it is based on the previous years score to an extent and a rating based on the team that you play for.

    Should we expect Alisson to have a bit of a price drop for next season because he missed a number of games and finished well down the rankings for instance?


  • #3956
    Scorpion Sting
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,164 ✭✭✭✭Scorpion Sting


    Shedite27 wrote: »
    I reckon there could be some big moves this year, Mane and Salah, Martial, Son could all end up as strikers next season.

    I reckon Martial will be the only one of those there that are reclassified next season.

    The other three are wingers rather than a traditional striker where Martial has played all this season.


  • #3957
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,543 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    rgace wrote: »
    Is there anywhere that I can find information on how they value players at the beginning of the season?

    I assume just from looking at KDB's price this year that it is based on the previous years score to an extent and a rating based on the team that you play for.

    Should we expect Alisson to have a bit of a price drop for next season because he missed a number of games and finished well down the rankings for instance?
    I don’t think there is an exact science to it. Some of it is going to be based on who players performed last year, and yet I still don’t think we will be getting starting Chelsea defenders next year at 4.5 or even 5 despite Azpi being the only one you would even consider this season.


  • #3958
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,543 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Scorpion Sting wrote: »
    I reckon Martial will be the only one of those there that are reclassified next season.

    The other three are wingers rather than a traditional striker where Martial has played all this season.

    Yeah, I feel like we have this conversation every year and there’s always way less changes than predicted. Even though Rashford has played roughly the same position as Salah or Mane, I don’t really expect any of them to change.


  • #3959
    ThunbergsAreGo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    Anyone playing Scottish FPL?


  • #3960
    Green&Red
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,432 ✭✭✭✭Green&Red


    I think one of the big changes next year will be the five subs rule. In the 9 games since lockdown I had two automatic subs and left 15 points on the bench. Now I’d be frugal enough about spending on my subs anyway but I think one playing sub and minimum spend will be the only way to go with these new rules.

    But what will it mean for BB next year?
    Especially when you consider there may be a blank GW1.

    What I’m currently thinking is that I BB GW1, no city, United or probably wolves assets and WC for when they return.

    Basically no matter what you do I think the BB will purely be about getting a second keeper playing


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  • #3961
    Brian201888
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,057 ✭✭✭Brian201888


    The 5 subs isn't in place for next season yet as I understand it, it's being allowed by FIFA/Uefa but individual leagues will vote on if they want it or not I think.

    While teams were concious of injury during this accelerated period of games I don't see 15 teams voting to make it a permanent change when it doesn't benefit clubs in the lower half of the league to anywhere near the same extent as the top teams


  • #3962
    Green&Red
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,432 ✭✭✭✭Green&Red


    Anyone doing the Scottish premiership FF?


  • #3963
    Big Borg
    Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭Big Borg


    When do we start next season?


  • #3964
    F1ngers
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,398 Mod ✭✭✭✭F1ngers


    Big Borg wrote: »
    When do we start next season?

    Season starts 12th sept.


  • #3965
    Big Borg
    Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭Big Borg


    Quick turnaround. Short training period for new transfers.


  • #3966
    bodking
    Registered Users Posts: 283 ✭✭bodking


    When can we start picking a new squad .


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  • #3967
    nullObjects
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭nullObjects


    bodking wrote: »
    When can we start picking a new squad .

    I'd say a little while yet

    First game last year was 9th August and the game was open the end of June
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=110543047&postcount=57

    That was a bit earlier than normal though.
    Just a guess but I'd say they might have to clean up some of the hacks they did to get the game working for the extra weeks as well before starting the new season


  • #3968
    Dearg81
    Registered Users Posts: 3,173 ✭✭✭Dearg81


    nullObjects wrote: »
    I'd say a little while yet

    First game last year was 9th August and the game was open the end of June
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=110543047&postcount=57

    That was a bit earlier than normal though.
    Just a guess but I'd say they might have to clean up some of the hacks they did to get the game working for the extra weeks as well before starting the new season

    They should have been working on new season in parallel with last season so it should be ready to go. They've had lots of time to get everything in place. I'd say it will be open within 2 weeks.


  • #3969
    Trimm Trabb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭Trimm Trabb


    Anyone know where I’d get a downable/printable list of player points from this season?


  • #3970
    Shedite27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,426 ✭✭✭Shedite27


    Trimm Trabb wrote: »
    Anyone know where I’d get a downable/printable list of player points from this season?

    https://fantasy.premierleague.com/player-list


  • #3971
    Scorpion Sting
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,164 ✭✭✭✭Scorpion Sting


    No real surprise here.

    https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1289653370207297536


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  • #3972
    kilburn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭kilburn


    Any recommendations on best resource to study expected goals


  • #3973
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,543 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    kilburn wrote: »
    Any recommendations on best resource to study expected goals

    understat.com


  • #3974
    FPL_Junior
    Registered Users Posts: 34 ✭FPL_Junior


    Has anyone got a subscription with The Athletic? Tempted to get one and wondering has it helped you with FPL


  • #3975
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    How do you guys use the Xg data to make decisions ?

    If one was just using xg alone ?

    Looking at the above link is a tad mad.

    So it can show, at a glance, if someone is wasteful or clinical. That’s about all I can see in it. That’s not very helpful. I don’t think.


    On team data is has City as champions and 12 points ahead of Liverpool.

    Chelsea just 1 point behind Liverpool in 3rd.

    Newcastle relegated at the foot of the table.


  • #3976
    Dearg81
    Registered Users Posts: 3,173 ✭✭✭Dearg81


    FPL_Junior wrote: »
    Has anyone got a subscription with The Athletic? Tempted to get one and wondering has it helped you with FPL

    Yes and no. It has 1 or 2 articles directly related to fpl but the non fpl articles are more interesting and arguably of more benefit. I wouldn't subscribe though if you are just doing it for fpl, you will more than likely be disappointed.


  • #3977
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    How do you guys use the Xg data to make decisions ?

    If one was just using xg alone ?

    Looking at the above link is a tad mad.

    So it can show, at a glance, if someone is wasteful or clinical. That’s about all I can see in it. That’s not very helpful. I don’t think.


    On team data is has City as champions and 12 points ahead of Liverpool.

    Chelsea just 1 point behind Liverpool in 3rd.

    Newcastle relegated at the foot of the table.

    Like Id usually be looking for players who are running below or above the average.

    So if someone was running way above average and was getting bought in I'd leave it but if you were looking for someone who is low owned and could go on a streak you might look at someone performing below.

    But you'd be combing that with fixtures and what you actually think of the players actually ability like someone who is crap is below average because of that most likely

    Just another tool in the belt really.

    Xa goals and assists per 90 is one you can add on the drop down menu which is a good one to use

    Also I prefer the xg per 90 numbers

    But you should make sure players have some sort of decent sample size as players with few minutes will appear at the top

    Xg points thing isnt anything really substantial, but teams goals scored and conceded can be worth a look

    That's my basic way of looking at it anyways


  • #3978
    FPL_Junior
    Registered Users Posts: 34 ✭FPL_Junior


    Dearg81 wrote: »
    Yes and no. It has 1 or 2 articles directly related to fpl but the non fpl articles are more interesting and arguably of more benefit. I wouldn't subscribe though if you are just doing it for fpl, you will more than likely be disappointed.


    Thanks. Yeah I didn’t want to sub just for the FPL content but more for the football content that may help me towards FPL. I heard Jay Eggersdorf used it and said it helped him.


  • #3979
    FPL_Junior
    Registered Users Posts: 34 ✭FPL_Junior


    Dearg81 wrote: »
    Yes and no. It has 1 or 2 articles directly related to fpl but the non fpl articles are more interesting and arguably of more benefit. I wouldn't subscribe though if you are just doing it for fpl, you will more than likely be disappointed.

    Thanks. Yeah I didn’t want to sub just for the FPL content but more for the football content that may help me towards FPL. I heard Jay Eggersdorf used it and said it helped him.


  • #3980
    stephenl15
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,886 ✭✭✭stephenl15


    FPL_Junior wrote: »
    Has anyone got a subscription with The Athletic? Tempted to get one and wondering has it helped you with FPL

    I'd recommend it more for the general articles than fpl, there's plenty enough advice out there for free like on here. I think I paid 30 quid for a year which was great value :)

    One of the lads who writes fpl content for the Athletic used to be a regular on here.


  • #3981
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Like Id usually be looking for players who are running below or above the average.

    So if someone was running way above average and was getting bought in I'd leave it but if you were looking for someone who is low owned and could go on a streak you might look at someone performing below.

    But you'd be combing that with fixtures and what you actually think of the players actually ability like someone who is crap is below average because of that most likely

    Just another tool in the belt really.

    Xa goals and assists per 90 is one you can add on the drop down menu which is a good one to use

    Also I prefer the xg per 90 numbers

    But you should make sure players have some sort of decent sample size as players with few minutes will appear at the top

    Xg points thing isnt anything really substantial, but teams goals scored and conceded can be worth a look

    That's my basic way of looking at it anyways

    That’s what I thought re getting players in who are under/over achieving.

    But. Did it impact you on getting in Vardy, Aubameyang or Ings who all overperformed fairly significantly ? Their xg would make me think they are clinical but not getting lots of chances.

    Whereas maybe Salah and Rashford are wasting chances but at least getting them.

    Now, the above happens to be true. That’s probably how we would describe those players.


    I’m not sure it helps adding something else to consider in your decision making.

    I wonder if shots in the box is more helpful than xg ? But again one could argue its more information that doesn’t necessarily help in decision making. I do think ALL that information would be very helpful if we couldn’t make transfers though.


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  • #3982
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,543 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    How do you guys use the Xg data to make decisions ?

    If one was just using xg alone ?

    Looking at the above link is a tad mad.

    So it can show, at a glance, if someone is wasteful or clinical. That’s about all I can see in it. That’s not very helpful. I don’t think.


    On team data is has City as champions and 12 points ahead of Liverpool.

    Chelsea just 1 point behind Liverpool in 3rd.

    Newcastle relegated at the foot of the table.

    Personally I’d be looking at what a players xG or xA is, rather than how far their actual goals and assists veer from it.

    Knowing that a player is getting into positions to score goals or assist more than the others is a pretty big thing. Too much is made of being clinical or a great finisher. It exists but to nowhere near the level people would make out.

    You give Benteke a chance in the 6 yard box and I’m backing him to score it ahead of Kane or De Bruyne from outside the box.


  • #3983
    eh i dunno
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,063 ✭✭✭✭eh i dunno


    FPL_Junior wrote: »
    Thanks. Yeah I didn’t want to sub just for the FPL content but more for the football content that may help me towards FPL. I heard Jay Eggersdorf used it and said it helped him.

    Pm me if you want a 30 day pass?


  • #3984
    FPL_Junior
    Registered Users Posts: 34 ✭FPL_Junior


    stephenl15 wrote: »
    I'd recommend it more for the general articles than fpl, there's plenty enough advice out there for free like on here. I think I paid 30 quid for a year which was great value :)

    One of the lads who writes fpl content for the Athletic used to be a regular on here.

    Oh really that’s cool, what’s his name?


  • #3985
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    CSF wrote: »
    Personally I’d be looking at what a players xG or xA is, rather than how far their actual goals and assists veer from it.

    Knowing that a player is getting into positions to score goals or assist more than the others is a pretty big thing. Too much is made of being clinical or a great finisher. It exists but to nowhere near the level people would make out.

    You give Benteke a chance in the 6 yard box and I’m backing him to score it ahead of Kane or De Bruyne from outside the box.

    Again, I’m new to looking at stats and trying to understand how people use them to make better choices.

    I’m not arguing for the sake of it.

    Looking at the stats through your eyes I’d be thinking that owning Salah, Sterling, Rashford and Vardy (in that order) would be important.

    Aubameyang, Ings, Martial and Kane wouldn’t be as attractive.

    So if I want to watch less football I don’t think I can rely on those sorts of stats. I suppose people use them in conjunction with either - other stats or the eye test but then how important are they ?

    We are back to using ALL the tools we can to help us make the best decisions. So it’s the old adage of too much information and less clarity. Or the woods for the trees ?

    I think I’d want to use one or the other and stick with it.

    I toyed with not playing this year and then thought maybe stats could be a shortcut that would allow me to still play. I’m not so sure though. It’d feel a bit random basing decisions on stats. It’d feel like having less ‘control’.


  • #3986
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Deleted User wrote: »
    That’s what I thought re getting players in who are under/over achieving.

    But. Did it impact you on getting in Vardy, Aubameyang or Ings who all overperformed fairly significantly ? Their xg would make me think they are clinical but not getting lots of chances.

    Whereas maybe Salah and Rashford are wasting chances but at least getting them.

    Now, the above happens to be true. That’s probably how we would describe those players.


    I’m not sure it helps adding something else to consider in your decision making.

    I wonder if shots in the box is more helpful than xg ? But again one could argue its more information that doesn’t necessarily help in decision making. I do think ALL that information would be very helpful if we couldn’t make transfers though.

    Ya I deffo balked on ings and vardy too late this season, but at the same time im like still new to fpl and do lose concentration over the season with it so maybe im not the best to answer your question on that.

    Salah ive own lots this season and unfortunately didnt perform especially at the end of the season per xg.

    At the very least it helps you see a broader picture, then watching a few games a week and what ever narrative motd want to show you

    I would look at the shot per game or 90 stat and key passes the same depending on the player.

    You kinda need to get used to them like anything and just marry up what you think makes a statistically good player.

    like as a hyperbole example a player could score 5 in 5, have a high xg and just scored 5 rebounds from the goalie saving a shot, when unmarked in the box, with only 1 shot per game.

    and even then the xg numbers would correlate well with the goals scored but the shot volume would show you its unsustainable.

    I dont see using it would make you a worse FPL player.

    a lot of this may depend on weather you are happy with outcome over performance aswell.


  • #3987
    Shedite27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,426 ✭✭✭Shedite27


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Did it impact you on getting in Vardy, Aubameyang or Ings who all overperformed fairly significantly ? Their xg would make me think they are clinical but not getting lots of chances.

    Whereas maybe Salah and Rashford are wasting chances but at least getting them.
    XG isn't a magic secret sauce, and I never use XG as a reason not to get a popular FPL player in or out (Vardy, PEA, Ings). Where I find it works well is:
    1. If a player who hasn't been a regular FPL scorer before (either new to the league or a breakout run), it's handy o check if he's just got lucky, or is actually getting chances. Indicates whether the streak is likely to continue (someone like Dacoure, Cantwell, Mount etc).
    2. If a player that isn't scoring well in real terms seems to pass your eye test and you want to confirm that it isn't just you. Antonio was the most recent example of this, was playing up top and getting chances as the season went into lockdown, XG confirmed he was unlucky, and the points followed. SO it's good if you're trying to find players outside of the norm


  • #3988
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,543 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Again, I’m new to looking at stats and trying to understand how people use them to make better choices.

    I’m not arguing for the sake of it.

    Looking at the stats through your eyes I’d be thinking that owning Salah, Sterling, Rashford and Vardy (in that order) would be important.

    Aubameyang, Ings, Martial and Kane wouldn’t be as attractive.

    So if I want to watch less football I don’t think I can rely on those sorts of stats. I suppose people use them in conjunction with either - other stats or the eye test but then how important are they ?

    We are back to using ALL the tools we can to help us make the best decisions. So it’s the old adage of too much information and less clarity. Or the woods for the trees ?

    I think I’d want to use one or the other and stick with it.

    I toyed with not playing this year and then thought maybe stats could be a shortcut that would allow me to still play. I’m not so sure though. It’d feel a bit random basing decisions on stats. It’d feel like having less ‘control’.

    In short, no I would definitely not work off those stats alone or close to it. The eye test remains huge for decent players aswell as our ability to understand the reasons why people might outperform/underperform their stats on a particular week.


  • #3989
    callaway92
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,836 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    Stats I find most effective are Penalty Area Entries, xG, xA, Passes into the penalty area, xS

    For Fantasy Football they’re pretty much golden to make your picks.


  • #3990
    dr.kenneth noisewater
    Registered Users Posts: 5,706 ✭✭✭dr.kenneth noisewater


    FPL_Junior wrote:
    Has anyone got a subscription with The Athletic? Tempted to get one and wondering has it helped you with FPL


    I think its great for soccer coverage, covers Germany, Italy and Spain now as well. They have FPL General writing for them for FPL, he does a weekly column for them which is basic enough I find.

    They do an hour long discussion page with him and Ben Dinnery shortly before the deadline where they answer as many questions from writers as possible which is good I think and gives some decent updates.


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  • #3991
    joe123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,523 ✭✭✭joe123


    Ahh just spotted the FPL website is in its updating mode.

    I was still to take note of league positions and manager of the months in a mini league. Is there anyway to still get that data??


  • #3992
    jimmii
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,810 ✭✭✭✭jimmii


    joe123 wrote: »
    Ahh just spotted the FPL website is in its updating mode.

    I was still to take note of league positions and manager of the months in a mini league. Is there anyway to still get that data??

    Oooh! Hard to imagine it launching very soon and would be strange if it was down for long so hopefully it comes back soon so we have the chance to get that info I haven't done it yet either.


  • #3993
    maximo31
    Registered Users Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭maximo31


    Looks like it is gone. I was lucky enough not to have logged out so was able to check data.
    Maybe try accessing through the History on your device....


  • #3994
    nullObjects
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭nullObjects


    joe123 wrote: »
    Ahh just spotted the FPL website is in its updating mode.

    I was still to take note of league positions and manager of the months in a mini league. Is there anyway to still get that data??

    Think there's a workaround, the data is still there it just hides the links with the new landing page.

    If you log in and get the updating message you can still navigate to your team id to find the league:
    https://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/123456/event/47
    (Switch 123456 for your id then check the leagues on the right)

    If you know the league id you can just navigate directly there:
    https://fantasy.premierleague.com/leagues/213026/standings/c
    (Boards free to play league)


  • #3995
    maximo31
    Registered Users Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭maximo31


    If you don't have your team ID just Google your team name with Fantasy Football and you will get a link to 1 of your leagues. You can navigate to your team from here......


  • #3996
    FPL_Junior
    Registered Users Posts: 34 ✭FPL_Junior


    Still possible at the moment

    https://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/(Your ID)/event/47


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  • #3997
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    .


  • #3998
    Fitz*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,032 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    PL is gonna move back to the 3 sub rule for the 20/21 season.

    https://twitter.com/SamWallaceTel/status/1291343746106302464?s=19


  • #3999
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,543 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    That and the goalkeeper encroachment becoming enforceable by VAR seem like the ones that have legitimate FPL impact to be considered/


  • #4000
    machiavellianme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,654 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    joe123 wrote: »
    Ahh just spotted the FPL website is in its updating mode.

    I was still to take note of league positions and manager of the months in a mini league. Is there anyway to still get that data??

    It's back but hasn't actually updated. Had to confirm my details but now see my final GW team.


  • #4001
    stephenl15
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,886 ✭✭✭stephenl15


    The overall winner is after being removed for some reason and second place is now the winner apparently


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