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New Import Duty/VAT Thread. Read Post #1 for Rules

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    #1412
    Suckit
    Registered Users Posts: 11,215 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    donaghb wrote: »
    As the title says, I've looked several times on TARIC and cannot find this code. Its medical equipment for patient transfers, beds and the like.
    Any ideas??
    Cheer
    D


    Coult it be here? From 9018 down

    https://www.taricsupport.com/nomenclatuur/9000000000.html


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    #1413
    Shn99
    Registered Users Posts: 1,353 ✭✭✭Shn99


    I purchased an item from wish for €3.65 but on the tracking it says it has gone through customs in ireland? Slightly concerned that i will be landed with a customs charge..anyone have any ideas?
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    #1414
    con747
    Registered Users Posts: 5,789 ✭✭✭con747


    Shn99 wrote: »
    I purchased an item from wish for €3.65 but on the tracking it says it has gone through customs in ireland? Slightly concerned that i will be landed with a customs charge..anyone have any ideas?
    Screenshot 2020-06-22 at 00.01.03.png

    Custom charges don't apply to an item of that value ,If your goods have:

    a customs value (including cost, transport, insurance and handling charges) of €22 or less you will not have to pay Customs Duty or VAT
    a customs value of more than €22 you will have to pay VAT
    an intrinsic value (the value of the goods alone excluding transport, insurance and handling charges) of more than €150 you will have to pay Customs Duty.
    These limits are for the whole delivery, not just one item. You must pay the above duties where applicable, and VAT on alcohol or tobacco products, perfumes or toilet waters, regardless of their value.

    If the VAT payable is €6 or less it will not be collected https://www.revenue.ie/en/importing-vehicles-duty-free-allowances/buying-of-goods-online-for-personal-use/buying-goods-from-outside-the-eu.aspx#:~:text=If%20you%20buy%20goods%20from,Customs%20Duty&text=Countervailing%20Duty,-Added%20Tax%20(VAT).

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    #1415
    Somedaythefire
    Registered Users Posts: 758 ✭✭✭Somedaythefire


    Probably a silly question, but if I order from the US through AddressPal I pay 26 euro for handling and shipping to An Post. Is this 26 euro included in the calculation of VAT?


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    #1416
    whiterebel
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,833 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    Somedaythefire wrote: »
    Probably a silly question, but if I order from the US through AddressPal I pay 26 euro for handling and shipping to An Post. Is this 26 euro included in the calculation of VAT?

    It should be. There is also a €10 fee for customs clearance.


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    #1417
    Somedaythefire
    Registered Users Posts: 758 ✭✭✭Somedaythefire


    whiterebel wrote: »
    It should be. There is also a €10 fee for customs clearance.
    Thanks. I included the 10 clearance fee into the 26 euro in my question.


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    #1418
    whiterebel
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,833 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    Somedaythefire wrote: »
    Thanks. I included the 10 clearance fee into the 26 euro in my question.

    Then its just the €16.99


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    #1419
    Somedaythefire
    Registered Users Posts: 758 ✭✭✭Somedaythefire


    whiterebel wrote: »
    Then its just the €16.99
    Thank you!


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    #1420
    Calibos
    Registered Users Posts: 7,796 ✭✭✭Calibos


    I'm lost with that calc at the beginning of the thread. Does anyone know if there is duty and how much vat would be payable on an electric projection screen shipped from alibaba in China that will cost €1251 (that price includes €396 for shipping via DHL Express)


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    #1421
    styron
    Registered Users Posts: 904 ✭✭✭styron


    Calibos wrote: »
    I'm lost with that calc at the beginning of the thread. Does anyone know if there is duty and how much vat would be payable on an electric projection screen shipped from alibaba in China that will cost €1251 (that price includes €396 for shipping via DHL Express)


    46.29 - Duty should be 3.7% of €1251
    298.37 - VAT 23% (€1251 + 46.29)
    344.66 *


    * (+ DHL Admin: € 14.50 if not included in shipping cost)


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    #1422
    tyivpc5qjx0f2b
    Closed Accounts Posts: 289 ✭✭tyivpc5qjx0f2b


    Hi guys, question regarding duty & customs on an item. My cousin has sent me a Golf Club (Putter) from an obscure US brand as a wedding gift.

    The item has a relatively high retail value approx $700 but would not be easy to find a price for online. That price actually includes some extra pieces which aren't included in this package but I may be liable for upon delivery.

    I am a little unsure if this qualifies for any exemptions on import at 2nd reduced rate and/or because it is a gift. Clearly not from a retailer.

    Additionally not quite sure how import might be calculated on a golf club that a price cannot be found for and includes no invoice.

    Any insights you might share on the approximate fees I may be liable for would be very helpful.

    Thanks


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    #1423
    whiterebel
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,833 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    Thea Fresh Belt wrote: »
    Hi guys, question regarding duty & customs on an item. My cousin has sent me a Golf Club (Putter) from an obscure US brand as a wedding gift.

    The item has a relatively high retail value approx $700 but would not be easy to find a price for online. That price actually includes some extra pieces which aren't included in this package but I may be liable for upon delivery.

    I am a little unsure if this qualifies for any exemptions on import at 2nd reduced rate and/or because it is a gift. Clearly not from a retailer.

    Additionally not quite sure how import might be calculated on a golf club that a price cannot be found for and includes no invoice.

    Any insights you might share on the approximate fees I may be liable for would be very helpful.

    Thanks

    Look up the first post in this thread. It won't qualify as a gift, and they will look up the value of the items on line. Look up the taric or tariff code and it will give you the duty amount.


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    #1424
    tyivpc5qjx0f2b
    Closed Accounts Posts: 289 ✭✭tyivpc5qjx0f2b


    whiterebel wrote: »
    Look up the first post in this thread. It won't qualify as a gift, and they will look up the value of the items on line. Look up the taric or tariff code and it will give you the duty amount.

    Thanks for the response. I read the initial post but knew that prior to asking the question.

    My question relates more to the relatively esoteric nature of the brand. Their only presence is quite minimal so coming to a valuation will be difficult.

    In light of this, I was curious as to how they might estimate its value given they may not find a price and I cannot provide an invoice.

    I appreciate your response, thanks for taking the time.


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    #1425
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,153 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Thea Fresh Belt wrote: »
    Thanks for the response. I read the initial post but knew that prior to asking the question.

    My question relates more to the relatively esoteric nature of the brand. Their only presence is quite minimal so coming to a valuation will be difficult.

    In light of this, I was curious as to how they might estimate its value given they may not find a price and I cannot provide an invoice.

    I appreciate your response, thanks for taking the time.

    if they have difficulty coming to a valuation and you cannot provide an invoice then they will make up a value using their best judgement. that value may be higher than you want.


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    #1426
    Basq
    Registered Users Posts: 43,774 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Bought an album earlier from DeepDiscount

    Was $19 + $7.98 shipping so $26.98 / under €23 all in.

    Surely unlikely they'll collect on that, right?


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    #1427
    Suckit
    Registered Users Posts: 11,215 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    Basq wrote: »
    Bought an album earlier from DeepDiscount

    Was $19 + $7.98 shipping so $26.98 / under €23 all in.

    Surely unlikely they'll collect on that, right?
    They shouldn't. I think €26.05 is the absolute cap after negligible amounts is included.

    They will not collect vat on anything up to €6.
    The vat on that would be roughly €5.25.


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    #1428
    sniper_samurai
    Registered Users Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭sniper_samurai


    Suckit wrote: »
    They shouldn't. I think €26.05 is the absolute cap after negligible amounts is included.

    They will not collect vat on anything up to €6.
    The vat on that would be roughly €5.25.

    Doubt it will be caught anyway. Every item I've bought from Deep Discount has been reshipped via Holland.


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    #1429
    theguzman
    Registered Users Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭theguzman


    What sort of Customs Duty would be payable on a Spectrum Analyser like this below?

    https://www.amazon.com/RF-Explorer-Aluminium-Downloadable-Software/dp/B018WIB3V6/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=23FSJT8K608PK&dchild=1&keywords=spectrum+analyzer+display&qid=1600704825&sprefix=spectrum+analyz%2Caps%2C278&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExUDNYTU02VlFRNjhPJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMjk4OTQ2MU5OTlBDVzY3UzUzWCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMjAzMTQyMTMwVFRQMlBaVVFISSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

    That Taric site for searching is absolutely horrendous.


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    #1430
    Suckit
    Registered Users Posts: 11,215 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    theguzman wrote: »
    What sort of Customs Duty would be payable on a Spectrum Analyser like this below?

    https://www.amazon.com/RF-Explorer-Aluminium-Downloadable-Software/dp/B018WIB3V6/ref=sr_1_2_sspa?crid=23FSJT8K608PK&dchild=1&keywords=spectrum+analyzer+display&qid=1600704825&sprefix=spectrum+analyz%2Caps%2C278&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExUDNYTU02VlFRNjhPJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMjk4OTQ2MU5OTlBDVzY3UzUzWCZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMjAzMTQyMTMwVFRQMlBaVVFISSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

    That Taric site for searching is absolutely horrendous.
    It might be easier to order from the UK, and definitely cheaper.
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01D91B80W

    blob:https://imgur.com/e86ccb6b-1a94-4227-92b9-a3ddd4c52647


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    #1431
    theguzman
    Registered Users Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭theguzman


    Suckit wrote: »
    It might be easier to order from the UK, and definitely cheaper.
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01D91B80W

    [IMG]https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/blob:<a href=https://imgur.com/e86ccb6b-1a94-4227-92b9-a3ddd4c52647 target=_blank>[/img]https://imgur.com/e86ccb6b-1a94-4227-92b9-a3ddd4c52647</a>

    That's not what I ordered already and was merely using it as an example, but yes you are right, amazon.co.uk would make much more sense for that particular product.


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    #1432
    Suckit
    Registered Users Posts: 11,215 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    theguzman wrote: »
    That's not what I ordered already and was merely using it as an example, but yes you are right, amazon.co.uk would make much more sense for that particular product.
    Yeah, sorry I was going to edit and post the duty just in case that was all you needed, and not the product.
    I then got sidetracked.
    I think amazon cover it all (top right). It seems that they are not using they new (temporary) vat rates since the beginning of september but are including duty I think.
    I did try to look it up, but as you mentioned, that site is a pita. It is somewhere around 8500 -8700 I think. Anyway, amazon reckon this would be the final cost.

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    #1433
    whiterebel
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,833 Mod ✭✭✭✭whiterebel


    Pain or not, you will need to find the correct tariff code, because there may be a big difference in duty rates. Whoever does the customs clearance, if you don't use Amazon, will have to go look for it as well. They may come up with something completely different. The supplier may be able to tell you the code


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    #1434
    styron
    Registered Users Posts: 904 ✭✭✭styron


    This fool can't see how it can be anything other than 9030 40 ... with 'spectrum analyser' & exclusively 'telecommunications' both on the bingo card

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    IF the code is correct* US as a third country should mean 0% duty same (currently) as UK

    The problem with this, is that Suckit's Amazon example is over $10 more than the 23% VAT on price plus shipping ... unless Estimated Import Fee Deposit includes a handling charge?

    * = Disclaimer: treat as the idle speculations of a delusional imbecile


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    #1435
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,153 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    there is always a handling fee for processing the customs charges.


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    #1436
    styron
    Registered Users Posts: 904 ✭✭✭styron


    Looks like the abolition of the €22 (ie. €26.06) VAT exemption on imports from outside the EU is coming into force from 1 July next.
    Every order will be taxed and presumably subject to An Post €10 admin charge:

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    revenue.ie


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    #1437
    TomOnBoard
    Registered Users Posts: 5,109 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    There goes the €2.99 value packages from banggood..

    :-(


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    #1438
    Suckit
    Registered Users Posts: 11,215 ✭✭✭✭Suckit


    styron wrote: »
    The problem with this, is that Suckit's Amazon example is over $10 more than the 23% VAT on price plus shipping ... unless Estimated Import Fee Deposit includes a handling charge?

    * = Disclaimer: treat as the idle speculations of a delusional imbecile
    The VAT is now 21% temporarily. So it is higher. :eek: :)

    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    there is always a handling fee for processing the customs charges.
    I am not sure on this....
    But, IIRC when you pay the VAT up front on amazon then there is no handling charge.


    I had noticed that amazon estimated fees deposit seemed high, but I didn't bother to try and calculate it was after 1am. I also didn't bother looking too hard on the TARIC page as the OP had said it was a different item.
    But amazon support does say that if you notice discrepancies in their fees/calculated vat etc., that they will refund the difference.
    I am not sure if they have changed any of the amazon's vat to 21% for Ireland, but i idn't check.


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    #1439
    ED E
    Registered Users Posts: 36,164 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    styron wrote: »
    Looks like the abolition of the €22 (ie. €26.06) VAT exemption on imports from outside the EU is coming into force from 1 July next.
    Every order will be taxed and presumably subject to An Post €10 admin charge:

    huSFqSv.png

    revenue.ie

    If this is the case then AliExpress is being regulated out of the country. Pretty ****. I'll pay the tax but the clearance is a rip off. They arent processing two packages per operator per hour (€20 hourly would be plenty for a box ticking job), they're probably doing an order of magnitude more. Creaming it.


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    #1440
    andrewfaulk
    Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭andrewfaulk


    ED E wrote: »
    If this is the case then AliExpress is being regulated out of the country. Pretty ****. I'll pay the tax but the clearance is a rip off. They arent processing two packages per operator per hour (€20 hourly would be plenty for a box ticking job), they're probably doing an order of magnitude more. Creaming it.

    Customs clearance is more than a box ticking job..

    And you are entitled to file the entry or nominate your own customs broker if you so wish..


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    #1441
    rubadub
    Registered Users Posts: 32,373 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    styron wrote: »
    Every order will be taxed and presumably subject to An Post €10 admin charge:
    I doubt they will all 100% be collected though. If anything I hoped that 6euro limit would increase at some stage.

    Are they reallly going to do a load of paperwork to collect say 10cent in VAT, I know an post get a tenner but I imagine revenue would have higher admin costs than the 10cent they get.

    If it happens elsewhere the Chinese sites will get more of those EU warehouses going.


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