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Are you taking part in any LGBTQ events for pride month?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Glad you at least agree all crap about persecution only exists in certain people's heads.

    Doesn't really answer the question. Do you want to live in an Ireland that specifically targets those people?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Werent you one of the posters saying assault is an unreasonable response to having a milkshake poured over you (which is an assault in itself) but it's ok now to assault someone cause they hurt you with words? Bit hypocritical.

    Sue me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,180 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    there is no confusion. If you, who i do not know, calls me queer i will punch you in the face. If somebody i know says it to me I probably wouldn't. As a parallel try going up to a black person and say "Hey N*gger" and let me know how you get on.

    Totally disproportionate, violent response. How is that in any way justifiable in response to, at worst, a relatively mild verbal insult from the sort of person who probably isn't worth bothering with anyway? :confused:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 53 ✭✭FaxingBerlin


    Sue me.

    Great response that. You not gonna deny youre a hypocrite no? It's ok for gays to react with violence but no one else. Special treatment is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    jimgoose wrote: »
    Totally disproportionate, violent response. How is that in any way justifiable in response to, at worst, a relatively mild verbal insult from the sort of person who probably isn't worth bothering with anyway? :confused:

    I'm sure it is easy to think it is mild when you are not on the receiving end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Great response that. You not gonna deny your a hypocrite no? It's ok for gays to react with violence but no one else. Special treatment is it?

    I didn't say it was ok. I said i would do it and damn the consequences.


  • Registered Users Posts: 530 ✭✭✭Hedgelayer


    Der Stier wrote: »
    Genuine question for the LGBT community.

    Do you think this is appropriate for kids to be attending

    https://twitter.com/HaramHussy/status/1139266250251669504

    I wouldn't want kids at a straight event that had men and women in S&M gear either, this is not homophobia, but these events seem to get away with it more - just look at the Amazing Desmond in the USA, 11yr old boy in drag being clapped as he dances like a stripper, imagine if it were an 11 year old girl ???

    Exactly I think parade's with this sort of expression in front of kid's is sickening.

    I'm a gay man myself and a parent to a 22 year old lad and think a lot of this behaviour in public is very inappropriate.
    I only came out two years ago, it's no issue with himself or my family and friends.

    You'll notice the sjw's and third wave feminists defend this type of tripe.

    Kid's are not meant to be exposed to the dark world of fetishism and a memory like this will be burned into their memory.

    Ok back in my day we had Michael Tierney in Ennis "Micky the Lady" he called himself.
    A harmless guy selling newspapers and just liked to dress as a lady.
    A lovely man, bless him....

    Danny La Rue was harmless too, mum and dad just told us some men dress up for fun, that was innocent time's.

    Not like today's infusion of lust, sexualisation and filth.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    Der Stier wrote: »
    Genuine question for the LGBT community.

    Do you think this is appropriate for kids to be attending

    https://twitter.com/HaramHussy/status/1139266250251669504

    I wouldn't want kids at a straight event that had men and women in S&M gear either, this is not homophobia, but these events seem to get away with it more - just look at the Amazing Desmond in the USA, 11yr old boy in drag being clapped as he dances like a stripper, imagine if it were an 11 year old girl ???

    I didn't see anything beyond Drag Queens at the parade last year. I could have missed the guys in bondage gear but if there was any they were completely outnumbered in the region of thousands.

    But, yeah. I wouldn't be having my kids walk behind those lads.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 53 ✭✭FaxingBerlin


    I didn't say it was ok. I said i would do it and damn the consequences.

    Well that goes for everyone then, remember that next time youre on your high horse about someone getting a thump after being milkshaked or egged.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Well that goes for everyone then, remember that next time your on your high horse about someone getting a thump after being milkshaked or egged.

    if you are back to your hero tommy it wasn't just tommy that assaulted milkshake guy. Tommys goons had a go as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    and all of those other reasons also apply to me. You'e just continually doubling down. Its quite pathetic.

    Jesus Christ, it's like talking to the wall.

    Go wallow in your victimhood if that's what floats your boat.

    I won't be agreeing with you, joining you or cheering you on. I just don't believe you have it all that bad to be perfectly honest. I also won't be abusing you or oppressing you.

    You call that whatever you the hell you want to!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Jesus Christ, it's like talking to the wall.

    Go wallow in your victimhood if that's what floats your boat.

    I won't be agreeing with you, joining you or cheering you on. I just don't believe you have it all that bad to be perfectly honest. I also won't be abusing you or oppressing you.

    You call that whatever you the hell you want to!

    I call it homophobia. YMMV


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 53 ✭✭FaxingBerlin


    if you are back to your hero tommy it wasn't just tommy that assaulted milkshake guy. Tommys goons had a go as well.

    My hero Tommy?? I was more thinking about Farage and the aussie senator... but ok.


  • Registered Users Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Ruraldweller56


    Der Stier wrote: »
    Genuine question for the LGBT community.

    Do you think this is appropriate for kids to be attending

    https://twitter.com/HaramHussy/status/1139266250251669504

    I wouldn't want kids at a straight event that had men and women in S&M gear either, this is not homophobia, but these events seem to get away with it more - just look at the Amazing Desmond in the USA, 11yr old boy in drag being clapped as he dances like a stripper, imagine if it were an 11 year old girl ???

    These events are just an excuse for degeneracy. And to make it even more farcical it's been hijacked by 'the man' who they believe is their oppressors.

    I know a young lad who went touring the USA last summer and told me of his delight that he'd just about get to the pride event in San Francisco, as he had been the previous year. 'Jesus I didn't realise you were gay' says I. Oh quite the opposite I was told. An excuse for promiscuity and degeneracy for both straight and 'queer' folk.

    All put on in broad daylight in front of the general public, including young kids. Some of whom are even carried to these events by what I can only assume are even more deranged parents.

    Anyway. I'm just going to sit here and await my infraction. For calling a spade a spade.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭Der Stier


    ^^ Exactly, and people will probably still accuse me of being homophobic, I voted yes in 2015, was delighted with the outcome - from a pure human rights and equality point of view it was a great result.
    But these kind of things piss me off, There was adds in Toronto or Montreal metro a few months back depicting 2 men having sex, it was cartoon drawings but you could tell .... edit found them ...
    https://www.citizengo.org/en-ca/fm/156112-obscene-advertisements-toronto-subways-must-be-removed
    The graphic same-sex images displayed in Toronto's subway system are shocking and repulsive. Children should not be exposed to such images and they should be removed immediately.

    The advertisements, sponsored by the Gay Men's Sexual Health Alliance encourage homosexual couples to have "the sex they want," even if they or their partners already have HIV. The shocking images depict homosexual threesomes and bondage harnesses, in full view of children who take the Toronto subway's busiest line every day.


    I'm sorry but ..... WTAF!!!
    At least they were removed.

    Like I said I wouldn't want the same adds with a man and woman depicted having BDSM sex.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    I call it homophobia. YMMV

    I've a sneaking suspicion you call a lot of things homophobia.

    You can call a dog a cat, it doesn't make it one however.


  • Registered Users Posts: 530 ✭✭✭Hedgelayer


    These events are just an excuse for degeneracy. And to make it even more farcical it's been hijacked by 'the man' who they believe is their oppressors.

    I know a young lad who went touring the USA last summer and told me of his delight that he'd just about get to the pride event in San Francisco, as he had been the previous year. 'Jesus I didn't realise you were gay' says I. Oh quite the opposite I was told. An excuse for promiscuity and degeneracy for both straight and 'queer' folk.

    All put on in broad daylight in front of the general public, including young kids. Some of whom are even carried to these events by what I can only assume are even more deranged parents.

    Anyway. I'm just going to sit here and await my infraction. For calling a spade a spade.

    I don't think you'll get an infraction for sharing the truth and exposure of this stagnant pondlife....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    I've a sneaking suspicion you call a lot of things homophobia.

    You can call a dog a cat, it doesn't make it one however.

    Oddly enough i think it is first time i have used it in direct response to a post here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Hedgelayer wrote: »
    I don't think you'll get an infraction for sharing the truth and exposure of this stagnant pondlife....

    It seems to be a free for all so i dont think they have much to worry about either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,180 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    It seems to be a free for all so i dont think they have much to worry about either.

    Can you explain why vaguely pornographic homosexual BDSM imagery is considered acceptable viewing for the general public, including children, at many of these celebrations?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    Oddly enough i think it is first time i have used it in direct response to a post here.

    The first time you're completely wrong, you're not any less wrong than the next time.

    Good luck with the victimhood - I'm out!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    jimgoose wrote: »
    Can you explain why vaguely pornographic homosexual BDSM imagery is considered acceptable viewing for the general public, including children, at many of these celebrations?

    where is that pic from?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    The first time you're completely wrong, you're not any less wrong than the next time.

    Good luck with the victimhood - I'm out!

    good luck with the homophobia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,180 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    where is that pic from?

    Stockholm, I believe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    jimgoose wrote: »
    Stockholm, I believe.

    in that case it probably isn't the worst thing those kids have seen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,180 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    in that case it probably isn't the worst thing those kids have seen.

    Indeed. Which isn't to say they can pull away just fine without it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    jimgoose wrote: »
    Indeed. Which isn't to say they can pull away just fine without it.

    I'm sure their parents know how they will react better than you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭Der Stier


    jimgoose wrote: »
    Stockholm, I believe.

    Ah yes Stockholm, the progressive utopia!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,180 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    I'm sure their parents know how they will react better than you.

    Being Swedish, I'm not at all convinced.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    jimgoose wrote: »
    Being Swedish, I'm not at all convinced.

    so you think you know how those children will react better than their parents? people you have only ever seen a photo of? Do you do lotto numbers as well?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,180 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    so you think you know how those children will react better than their parents? people you have only ever seen a photo of? Do you do lotto numbers as well?

    You're engaging in a load of blather and hand-waving like a jet fighter firing chaff, and I couldn't be bothered my arse. Suffice it to say, my own view is that exposing children to such carry-on is a vastly more punchable offence than the one discussed earlier in this thread. I bid you good day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭EICVD


    No why would I bother when none of that concerns me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,860 ✭✭✭Ragnar Lothbrok


    I am one of those who has questioned the reasons for continued Pride events (without being too concerned about it).

    However, I heard an excellent point on Matt Cooper's radio show last night in relation to the obnoxious comments made by that priest in Kilkenny. The person on the show said that if anyone questioned the reason for continued Pride events, the priest in Kilkenny was the perfect example of why these events are still needed.

    So from now on, my attitude will be "Good luck and enjoy yourselves" to anyone who's taking part, and hopefully we will eventually reach the stage where a "Gay Pride" parade will be as unnecessary as a "Straight Pride" parade.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 60 ✭✭Der Stier


    good luck with the homophobia.

    Oh give over!!!
    You just love being the victim don't you ?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I call it homophobia. YMMV

    Ha. Diluting the word until it means nothing anymore. Sure you are a homophobe yourself aren't you?

    You are the only one on here who seemingly has an issue with the Q in LGBTQ.

    You find it so offensive that you admit you would lash out violently if you were mislabeled as one.

    Very intolerant.

    If you called me homophobic to my face, would I be justified in punching you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Ha. Diluting the word until it means nothing anymore. Sure you are a homophobe yourself aren't you?

    You are the only one on here who seemingly has an issue with the Q in LGBTQ.

    You find it so offensive that you admit you would lash out violently if you were mislabeled as one.

    Very intolerant.

    If you called me homophobic to my face, would I be justified in punching you?

    I have no issue with the Q. the issue is have is straight people using it against me. Much like black people calling each other n*gga but not liking when outsiders do the same to them. It is rarely coming from a good place.


  • Registered Users Posts: 530 ✭✭✭Hedgelayer


    I know some gay guy's love expressing their deviant side in public and their bizarre fetishism and the whole what I think is the dark side of the scene.

    Call me old fashioned or whatever but there's a lot of gay men who have no interest in this behaviour of Sodom and Gomorrah like expression in public.

    They're different to us, they love filth and what they call pig play, and some of them actually eat ****, yes I'm serious.
    I was on a dating site and last week some dude told me that he likes eating ****,and guys pissing on him....

    This kind of behaviour is sick in my eyes, but dare you say you don't like it and youre not liberated etc...

    Give me an evening on a surfboard or out on a chartered shark fishing exhibition....
    Cutting timber with a chainsaw.....

    Oh I'm glad I'm no part of the deviant scene......

    Mod: Banned


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I have no issue with the Q. the issue is have is straight people using it against me. Much like black people calling each other n*gga but not liking when outsiders do the same to them. It is rarely coming from a good place.

    If a gay person called you a queer you have no issue with it but if a straight person said it you would?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,310 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Thread has turned into a cesspool what a shock.
    You would think from reading this thread that homophobia is non existent, it is just snowflakes being overly sensitive.
    I am afraid being yelled at by two lads (f@ggot) who are covering their faces and then subsequently slashed my face with a Stanley knife gives me a very personal experience and opinions.

    This thread has gone totally off topic as usual, with pretty familiar posters who seem a tad obsessed with LGBT topics.

    I will likely attend something maybe not the march itself on the day.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    If a gay person called you a queer you have no issue with it but if a straight person said it you would?

    that isn't what i said. I made it very clear. try to actually read posts before responding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Hedgelayer wrote: »
    I know some gay guy's love expressing their deviant side in public and their bizarre fetishism and the whole what I think is the dark side of the scene.

    Call me old fashioned or whatever but there's a lot of gay men who have no interest in this behaviour of Sodom and Gomorrah like expression in public.

    They're different to us, they love filth and what they call pig play, and some of them actually eat ****, yes I'm serious.
    I was on a dating site and last week some dude told me that he likes eating ****,and guys pissing on him....

    This kind of behaviour is sick in my eyes, but dare you say you don't like it and youre not liberated etc...

    Give me an evening on a surfboard or out on a chartered shark fishing exhibition....
    Cutting timber with a chainsaw.....

    Oh I'm glad I'm no part of the deviant scene......

    you know that fetish isn't gay specific, right? Straight people do it too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    If a gay person called you a queer you have no issue with it but if a straight person said it you would?
    that isn't what i said. I made it very clear. try to actually read posts before responding.
    I have no issue with the Q. the issue is have is straight people using it against me.

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    :rolleyes:

    i thought you were leaving?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    that isn't what i said. I made it very clear. try to actually read posts before responding.

    I read what you said. You said you have an issue with straight people using the word against you, to the point where you would react violently. I asked if you have an issue with non straight people using the word and would you react the same?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,180 ✭✭✭✭jimgoose


    you know that fetish isn't gay specific, right? Straight people do it too.

    This is well understood. I have exactly the same view of straight people displaying it in public.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    Hedgelayer wrote: »
    I know some gay guy's love expressing their deviant side in public and their bizarre fetishism and the whole what I think is the dark side of the scene.

    Call me old fashioned or whatever but there's a lot of gay men who have no interest in this behaviour of Sodom and Gomorrah like expression in public.

    They're different to us, they love filth and what they call pig play, and some of them actually eat ****, yes I'm serious.
    I was on a dating site and last week some dude told me that he likes eating ****,and guys pissing on him....

    This kind of behaviour is sick in my eyes, but dare you say you don't like it and youre not liberated etc...

    Give me an evening on a surfboard or out on a chartered shark fishing exhibition....
    Cutting timber with a chainsaw.....

    Oh I'm glad I'm no part of the deviant scene......

    Fetishes are not confined to gay people. I think you'd be surprised at some of the kinks that many straight people have, most fetish websites are more heavily populated by heterosexuals.

    For what its worth, as with fetishes for all sexual orientations, they only represent a very niche portion of the general population.
    Most people, both gay and straight, are pretty vanilla.
    That doesn't make those with preferences and fetishes deviants and it doesn't make them "sick".
    Its kind of baffling as to why your so concerned with and appalled by what consenting adults get up to in the bedroom. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    I read what you said. You said you have an issue with straight people using the word against you, to the point where you would react violently. I asked if you have an issue with non straight people using the word and would you react the same?

    it depends on context. the only straight people that would call me queer are people i dont know and they would not be saying it for fun. I've never had a gay person call me queer. why would they?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,513 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    jimgoose wrote: »
    This is well understood. I have exactly the same view of straight people displaying it in public.

    I dont think anybody wants to see **** eating in public.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    it depends on context. the only straight people that would call me queer are people i dont know and they would not be saying it for fun. I've never had a gay person call me queer. why would they?

    Grand.

    Just so I know, as a straight white man, what other words, which are in common usage for others, are forbidden for me?

    I'd hate to get violently attacked for misspeaking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    i thought you were leaving?

    I was going to but then you start making such a tit of yourself I couldn't stop watching!:D


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