AC/DC New album and Tour.

briany · 18-10-2014 5:39pm

McDave wrote: »

All the bios I've read say Angus is into his smoking, and doesn't do booze. Malcolm has had his drinking. As did Phil.

Bon seemed to have been into everything, although at the time of his death Angus said Bon wasn't a heavy drinker and didn't do drugs. Bon went off and did a lot of socialising on his own though, so there's probably no real way of Angus knowing for a fact what he was getting up to.

There's not much said about Cliff and Brian who both seem to be quiet enough in their private lives. In fact, I kind of like the fact that they *have* private lives!

Bon was a good bit older than the rest of the band and moved in a different social circle that he would have established before joining. There would have been almost 10 years between Angus/Mark and Bon. To him, hanging around with his bandmates might have felt a bit like being the old guy at the party.

Weird to think that Bon had a short dalliance with heroin (snorting, if I'm not mistaken). I always thought of him as a real blue collar sort. Seems he was actually quite a complicated fellow. For example, look at his early days in hippie-dippy prog rock outfit Fraternity, complete with beard and recorder!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZY2nl2CwLc

ush · 18-10-2014 7:11pm

briany wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZY2nl2CwLc

IALWTTT(IYWTRNR)

briany · 18-10-2014 7:24pm

ush wrote: »

IALWTTT(IYWTRNR)

Doubly true in Scott's case,

Exhibit B

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ-45XG7n4k

txpjl · 23-10-2014 11:08am

Guys,
Are AC/DC doing a tour of Ireland or is it already done?

Thanks
T

Lithium93_ · 23-10-2014 2:42pm

txpjl wrote: »

Guys,
Are AC/DC doing a tour of Ireland or is it already done?

Thanks
T

Nothing has been announced yet.

scudzilla · 23-10-2014 4:20pm

txpjl wrote: »

Guys,
Are AC/DC doing a tour of Ireland or is it already done?

Thanks
T

There will be no irish tour, just 1 date

briany · 26-10-2014 2:21pm

scudzilla wrote: »

There will be no irish tour, just 1 date

Hope it's not Slane. My gut tells me that would be awful messy.

NelsonVanAlden · 26-10-2014 6:58pm

The Slane rumor has been around forever it aint going to happen. I heard Brian say in a recent interview on the Pat "filthy bags" Kenny show that there will be an Irish date.

Taajsgpm · 29-10-2014 2:50am

me2 in 1982 How can Brian still sing? I dont think so.... sorry but boy could he ever in the day I guess iits a sentimental thing cheers !

lord lucan · 29-10-2014 5:36am

Taajsgpm wrote: »

me2 in 1982 How can Brian still sing? I dont think so.... sorry but boy could he ever in the day I guess iits a sentimental thing cheers !

Dafuq?!

briany · 29-10-2014 3:17pm

Did anyone hear Brian Johnson on the Pat Kenny show talking about cars? Not really into cars, myself, but Brian's always a pleasure to listen to. He's done a great job of keeping himself down to earth over the years. You can imagine him wandering into a chipper and having great banter with the staff or something while waiting on his order, still chatting even as he's walking out the door with his chips.

" 'Tarrah, me darlin'! * Gets into a 60s mini* "

grames_bond · 30-10-2014 9:49am

There is due to be an announcement tomorrow for a gig taking place in croker next summer......could this be it?!

colmufc · 30-10-2014 10:28am

grames_bond wrote: »

There is due to be an announcement tomorrow for a gig taking place in croker next summer......could this be it?!

unfortunately it does not seem to be them , big money is on script and ed sheeran

grames_bond · 30-10-2014 12:34pm

colmufc wrote: »

unfortunately it does not seem to be them , big money is on script and ed sheeran

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Grid. · 31-10-2014 7:36am

colmufc wrote: »

unfortunately it does not seem to be them , big money is on script and ed sheeran

I can't believe an act that bad could fill a stadium....the mind boggles:rolleyes:

Say Your Number · 31-10-2014 8:22am

To be fair to The Script they do at least play instruments and write their own songs while I wouldn't miss them if I never heard them again, they are more worthy of respect than those One Direction scrotes, who will vanish the second they stop making money for Cowell.

jack presley · 31-10-2014 8:49am

I'm quite content with the fact that I couldn't name one song by the Script.

ush · 31-10-2014 9:26am

The what? Ed who?

blastman · 31-10-2014 12:09pm

It's going to be Robbie Williams, lads, now can we drop it.....

EyesClosed · 31-10-2014 12:54pm

blastman wrote: »

It's going to be Robbie Williams, lads, now can we drop it.....

nope.....the script

jack presley · 31-10-2014 12:56pm

Not AC/DC anyway but they'll be here somewhere at some stage next year is imagine so it's still good.

Wrongway1985 · 31-10-2014 2:23pm

jack presley wrote: »

Not AC/DC anyway but they'll be here somewhere at some stage next year is imagine so it's still good.

Not really if it's in a kip like Slane!

jack presley · 31-10-2014 2:43pm

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

Not really if it's in a kip like Slane!

I'd take Slane over no gig at all but after the debacle the last time, I'd seriously consider giving them a miss if it was at Punchestown.

briany · 31-10-2014 3:31pm

Hopefully they'll just play the O2 again. If I see them again, I'd try to get up in the stands rather than on the floor. Never saw the big deal about being on the floor TBH. It's a whole lot of not being able to see the band/the music being too loud. Up in the stands you at least have a decent view and are relatively unmolested (oo'er).

jack presley · 31-10-2014 3:33pm

briany wrote: »

Hopefully they'll just play the O2 again. If I see them again, I'd try to get up in the stands rather than on the floor. Never saw the big deal about being on the floor TBH. It's a whole lot of not being able to see the band/the music being too loud. Up in the stands you at least have a decent view and are relatively unmolested (oo'er).

So it's not just me then! I put it down to old age in my case

briany · 31-10-2014 6:51pm

jack presley wrote: »

So it's not just me then! I put it down to old age in my case

I think there's people all over the age spectrum who feel that way, although they mightn't be so wont to admit it because they might be seen as a fuddy duddy. I don't really see why it would appeal to anyone, regardless of age, but apparently it does. Still - next time, if there is one, off the floor away from the hoi polloi.

Say Your Number · 31-10-2014 7:10pm

I would hate if they played the O2 again for the sole reason it would be nearly impossible to get tickets for it, it sold out in 8 seconds last time they played there, I think it will be a shorter tour this time so I don't think they'll play arenas, I wouldn't mind Punchestown again, I'd be driving or getting a lift with someone so I wouldn't face the same problem others had with buses, although having to drive 100+ miles in the early hours of the morning isn't an appetising prospect.

Harrocks · 31-10-2014 9:48pm

As this will be the last chance to see them on these shores i hope its a big
Gig.Even though i was at the o2 in 09 and punchestown in the fecking rain,Its the dc and i want at least a chance of getten to see them 1 last time.

Wrongway1985 · 31-10-2014 9:51pm

jack presley wrote: »

I'd take Slane over no gig at all but after the debacle the last time, I'd seriously consider giving them a miss if it was at Punchestown.

With Cheap flights and more than likely cheaper tickets a UK show in a better venue would prob be the plan for me if that was the case.

briany · 31-10-2014 10:20pm

AC/DC would probably never say this is their last tour, but you have to think it's likely. It'll probably never happen, but by god do I wish they'd dust off some 'b' material for this one. Firstly, their 'b' material i.e. stuff that hasn't been played lately, is cracking. Stuff like Sin City, Live Wire, That's the way I wanna Rock 'n' Roll, Riff Riff (!!!), Stiff Upper Lip, Let Me Put My Love Into You, Walk All Over You, Rock 'N' Roll Damnation etc. I could go on. AC/DC's back catalog has so much killer stuff that may, sadly, never be heard played by the ones who wrote and I think it's a shame.

Brian gave an answer to this, why they don't alter the set, saying that it would throw their lighting and sound guys out of whack. I have to call nonsense on that. AC/DC's tour is a big operation, yes, but they no doubt have some of the best and most experienced guys working on their tour. And where's the intricacy in AC/DC's show? It's nowhere that I can see. They're about as set and forget a band as there ever was. There's almost no choreographed lights and there's not a multitude of instruments to be monitoring. Tons of big bands play different setlists night after night seemingly without too much problem. You kind of have to do it to keep from going spare. It's definitely an issue for me with AC/DC that their act has undergone minimal alteration in 25 years. It's a kick-arse act, but, back to point A, they have a lot of amazing 'back catalog' material that needs one more airing before they hang it up, That is, if they still have the muster to pull it off!

wandatowell · 01-11-2014 1:46am

Some stuff from the "Ballbreaker" album would be top class. Great great album.

+1 on the rest of the post.

McDave · 01-11-2014 10:32am

briany wrote: »

Hopefully they'll just play the O2 again. If I see them again, I'd try to get up in the stands rather than on the floor. Never saw the big deal about being on the floor TBH. It's a whole lot of not being able to see the band/the music being too loud. Up in the stands you at least have a decent view and are relatively unmolested (oo'er).

Was up on the balcony for the Bon-era gig at the Olympic Ballroom. Great view! Murder on the ears though as it was right beside the left (Malcolm's side) stack.

Was close enough to the stage on the floor at the first Brian-era gig at the RDS. No ladies molested me. Was just a wee lad wearing a jumper.

McDave · 01-11-2014 10:35am

briany wrote: »

AC/DC would probably never say this is their last tour, but you have to think it's likely. It'll probably never happen, but by god do I wish they'd dust off some 'b' material for this one. Firstly, their 'b' material i.e. stuff that hasn't been played lately, is cracking. Stuff like Sin City, Live Wire, That's the way I wanna Rock 'n' Roll, Riff Riff (!!!), Stiff Upper Lip, Let Me Put My Love Into You, Walk All Over You, Rock 'N' Roll Damnation etc. I could go on. AC/DC's back catalog has so much killer stuff that may, sadly, never be heard played by the ones who wrote and I think it's a shame.

Brian gave an answer to this, why they don't alter the set, saying that it would throw their lighting and sound guys out of whack. I have to call nonsense on that. AC/DC's tour is a big operation, yes, but they no doubt have some of the best and most experienced guys working on their tour. And where's the intricacy in AC/DC's show? It's nowhere that I can see. They're about as set and forget a band as there ever was. There's almost no choreographed lights and there's not a multitude of instruments to be monitoring. Tons of big bands play different setlists night after night seemingly without too much problem. You kind of have to do it to keep from going spare. It's definitely an issue for me with AC/DC that their act has undergone minimal alteration in 25 years. It's a kick-arse act, but, back to point A, they have a lot of amazing 'back catalog' material that needs one more airing before they hang it up, That is, if they still have the muster to pull it off!

Have to agree about the set lists. I guess though, they have to pick tracks that work for Brian, bearing in mind he has to get his voice through tours.

jack presley · 01-11-2014 2:12pm

I always give Metallica abuse for playing the same songs and playing them in the same positions night after night but because AC/DC only tour once every 5 years or so, they can get away with it.

It would be nice though if Let There Be Rock and Rosie weren't that last songs in the set and Highway to Hell/FTATR (WSY) the encores for a change.

briany · 01-11-2014 2:30pm

wandatowell wrote: »

Some stuff from the "Ballbreaker" album would be top class. Great great album.

+1 on the rest of the post.

http://youtu.be/JDHXRXhlsaI?t=3m24s

McDave wrote: »

Have to agree about the set lists. I guess though, they have to pick tracks that work for Brian, bearing in mind he has to get his voice through tours.

But if you look at their usual setlist, it reads more like a 'best of', not like a bunch of songs that were selected to be easy on Brian's voice. I suspect the real reason is just a lot of songs means a lot of remembering to be done. AC/DC are a band that kind of prides themselves on never really putting a foot wrong live. If you read about the personalities of the Young brothers, it comes up again and again that, although it's rock'n'roll, they're ultra serious about their craft and they're sticklers for perfection. Especially, I had never heard Malcolm audibly hit a wrong chord. I know the music's relatively simple but sometimes that's all the more cause for mistakes from falling asleep at the wheel. Brian will be sometimes a bit flat, and Angus might miss a note on a half improv solo, but that's decoration. Structurally, though, in terms of the groove and the general consistency, the band is almost robotic, except robots probably couldn't rock that good.

Say Your Number · 01-11-2014 2:30pm

Yeah and they should retire You Shook Me All Night Long and Thunderstruck completely, maybe I'm being a bit of a hipster but they've some other songs that are far better like If You Want Blood, there's a great live version of it on the Plug Me In DVD Johnson's well able to do it

Would like to see Sink the Pink and Who Made Who but Rudd has probably never played them so I don't think they'll bother with either.

jack presley · 01-11-2014 2:33pm

Say Your Number wrote: »

Would like to see Sink the Pink and Who Made Who but Rudd has probably never played them so I don't think they'll bother with either.

I don't think the drums in any AC/Dc song is too complex so I'd say Phil would have no problem handling them. But moot point as they wouldn't be considered 'greatest hits' so would never be under consideration anyway.

Penfailed · 01-11-2014 2:33pm

jack presley wrote: »

I always give Metallica abuse for playing the same songs and playing them in the same positions night after night

Metallica play a different set night after night.

jack presley · 01-11-2014 2:34pm

Penfailed wrote: »

Metallica play a different set night after night.

I know but they always finish the main set with NEM and ES and have S&D as the last song. Yawn

Say Your Number · 01-11-2014 2:37pm

jack presley wrote: »

I don't think the drums in any AC/Dc song is too complex so I'd say Phil would have no problem handling them. But moot point as they wouldn't be considered 'greatest hits' so would never be under consideration anyway.

I'm not saying he wouldn't be able I mean it's more a case of they couldn't be arsed, there some songs they might have re-learn how to play cos they haven't played them in over 20 years but their attitude is 'f*ck it, let's stick to what we know'

Roanmore · 01-11-2014 4:13pm

briany wrote: »

AC/DC would probably never say this is their last tour, but you have to think it's likely. It'll probably never happen, but by god do I wish they'd dust off some 'b' material for this one. Firstly, their 'b' material i.e. stuff that hasn't been played lately, is cracking. Stuff like Sin City, Live Wire, That's the way I wanna Rock 'n' Roll, Riff Riff (!!!), Stiff Upper Lip, Let Me Put My Love Into You, Walk All Over You, Rock 'N' Roll Damnation etc. I could go on. AC/DC's back catalog has so much killer stuff that may, sadly, never be heard played by the ones who wrote and I think it's a shame.

What an opening to If You Want Blood, really gets the blood pumping (excuse the pun).

LETS GET NAKED · 01-11-2014 5:08pm

Would love to hear something off stiff upper lip. Would also be happy if they kept rock and roll train in the setlist for the next tour.

Was delighted to get dog eat dog in the setlist on the black ice tour and high voltage in the 2010 tour. There was some great ones in the stiff upper lip tour, problem child, bad boy boogie, what do you do for money honey, upto my neck in you.

Apparently stiff upper lip, hard as a rock and bad boy boogie were rehearsed for the black ice tour and but never played, hopefully they fit one or two of them in this time (and they could as they played 4/5 songs from black ice each night on that tour).

Getting more and more excited for the announcement now.

briany · 01-11-2014 6:21pm

LETS GET NAKED wrote: »

Would love to hear something off stiff upper lip. Would also be happy if they kept rock and roll train in the setlist for the next tour.

Was delighted to get dog eat dog in the setlist on the black ice tour and high voltage in the 2010 tour. There was some great ones in the stiff upper lip tour, problem child, bad boy boogie, what do you do for money honey, upto my neck in you.

Apparently stiff upper lip, hard as a rock and bad boy boogie were rehearsed for the black ice tour and but never played, hopefully they fit one or two of them in this time (and they could as they played 4/5 songs from black ice each night on that tour).

Getting more and more excited for the announcement now.

Rock n Roll Train is a classic song and warrants inclusion, but they could leave it out and be none the worse off, in my opinion. I'd like to hear it, and a number of others of course, but it's just the point I'm making of how deep their repertoire is. They could make about 3 totally different setlists out of all their best tunes.

McDave · 01-11-2014 6:44pm

briany wrote: »

http://youtu.be/JDHXRXhlsaI?t=3m24s

But if you look at their usual setlist, it reads more like a 'best of', not like a bunch of songs that were selected to be easy on Brian's voice. I suspect the real reason is just a lot of songs means a lot of remembering to be done. AC/DC are a band that kind of prides themselves on never really putting a foot wrong live. If you read about the personalities of the Young brothers, it comes up again and again that, although it's rock'n'roll, they're ultra serious about their craft and they're sticklers for perfection. Especially, I had never heard Malcolm audibly hit a wrong chord. I know the music's relatively simple but sometimes that's all the more cause for mistakes from falling asleep at the wheel. Brian will be sometimes a bit flat, and Angus might miss a note on a half improv solo, but that's decoration. Structurally, though, in terms of the groove and the general consistency, the band is almost robotic, except robots probably couldn't rock that good.

The other thing to bear in mind is that from BIB on they produced a lot of material for larger venues. The earlier Bon stuff worked really well in more intimate venues. There was literally only the band, some lighting, the songs, and Bon and Angus's antics. And lots of hard work. With excellent versions of the songs themselves.

Post-1980 it's been a bit different, with bigger songs, stage gimmicks, and in later years Brian's voice fading a bit. He really wheezes out a lot of the songs.

briany · 01-11-2014 7:32pm

McDave wrote: »

The other thing to bear in mind is that from BIB on they produced a lot of material for larger venues. The earlier Bon stuff worked really well in more intimate venues. There was literally only the band, some lighting, the songs, and Bon and Angus's antics. And lots of hard work. With excellent versions of the songs themselves.

Post-1980 it's been a bit different, with bigger songs, stage gimmicks, and in later years Brian's voice fading a bit. He really wheezes out a lot of the songs.

I think the songs that were popular in Bon's time would go down well anywhere, stadium or club.

I often wonder what course AC/DC's sound would have taken had Bon lived. Certainly there's no doubting that they became bigger, harder and more anthemic sounding in the early 80s. I wonder was that by-product of Brian joining, with his harder voice, or a way they were going anyway? I would put it forward that by 1980, with the band firing on all cylinders, Bon's voice would have the weak link of the band's sound. His lyrics would have been great, though.

McDave · 01-11-2014 8:33pm

briany wrote: »

I think the songs that were popular in Bon's time would go down well anywhere, stadium or club.

I often wonder what course AC/DC's sound would have taken had Bon lived. Certainly there's no doubting that they became bigger, harder and more anthemic sounding in the early 80s. I wonder was that by-product of Brian joining, with his harder voice, or a way they were going anyway? I would put it forward that by 1980, with the band firing on all cylinders, Bon's voice would have the weak link of the band's sound. His lyrics would have been great, though.

Mutt Lange was already taking them in the anthemic, big production, radio friendly direction.

On Bon's voice, it was never better than on HTH. If he had gone with the flow for the following album, he would have gone one step further. The only misgiving I would have had was that maybe his lifestyle would have still have done for him. He looked older than his years towards the end.

Even if he'd cleaned up and hit the gym (!), he would still have had rough edges. How those would have played with mass markets is anyone's guess. But as a performer, I think he could have handled it if he had committed to taking better care of himself.

All told, I think Scott was a big loss. Brian was a good replacement in the circumstances. But after February 1980, AC/DC lost much of their essence. Still a great band, but perhaps with just a bit of blandness they'd never had up till then.

McDave · 01-11-2014 8:40pm

briany wrote: »

I think the songs that were popular in Bon's time would go down well anywhere, stadium or club.

I often wonder what course AC/DC's sound would have taken had Bon lived. Certainly there's no doubting that they became bigger, harder and more anthemic sounding in the early 80s. I wonder was that by-product of Brian joining, with his harder voice, or a way they were going anyway? I would put it forward that by 1980, with the band firing on all cylinders, Bon's voice would have the weak link of the band's sound. His lyrics would have been great, though.

Oh, to see them somewhere intimate like Vicar Street. With Angus in normal kacks. Closing with 'Stormy May Day'. :pac:

briany · 02-11-2014 2:53am

McDave wrote: »

Oh, to see them somewhere intimate like Vicar Street. With Angus in normal kacks. Closing with 'Stormy May Day'. :pac:

Weird to think that AC/DC will probably never play another small venue again. They aren't the kind of band that does secret shows or anything like that, which is a shame, but then they are AC/DC and they can do what they like either way.

wandatowell · 02-11-2014 3:05am

McDave wrote: »

He really wheezes out a lot of the songs.

I didnt notice this much when I saw them live but when watching the live show from Rio on blu-ray, Brian was actually running out of air especially as the pace picked up.

Era fair play to him belting out the notes. Kudos.

scudzilla · 02-11-2014 3:11am

briany wrote: »

Weird to think that AC/DC will probably never play another small venue again. They aren't the kind of band that does secret shows or anything like that, which is a shame, but then they are AC/DC and they can do what they like either way.

About as close to a secret DC show as your likely to get, Brian & Cliff at The Irish Rover pub in Florida...wasted on the yanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8-EFe0kT2s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxxym81Fnz8

AC/DC New album and Tour.

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