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Minimum alcohol pricing is nigh

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    #9182
    easygoing39
    Registered Users Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭easygoing39


    Was in Malaga last week and popped into a Lidl, Perlenbacher 500ml cans were 65 cents,yes 65 CENTS,and I didnt witness 1000's of people rolling around p1ssed in the streets.We really live in an expensive Nanny state!!



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    #9183
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,015 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Obviously Spanish (or German or French or…) livers are made of much sterner stuff than Irish livers… But if you pay pub prices you're safe!

    There is no future for Boards as long as it stays on the complete toss that is the Vanilla "platform", we've given those Canadian twats far more chances than they deserve.



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    #9184
    migrant
    Registered Users Posts: 162 ✭✭migrant


    I agree because we have drinking problems in Ireland.

    The mysterious North beckons.



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    #9185
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 48,462 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122081581#Comment_122081581

    Mystery solved - I opened the can and poured it into a pint glass we have which also has a 500ml mark on it. It came up visibly short of that mark. So they're using 500ml cans but only putting 440ml of beer in them by the looks of it.



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    #9186
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
    Registered Users Posts: 17,433 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    So when is the price of a pint gonna stop going up, it's now €5.50 in my local, up from €3.90 March 2020.



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    #9187
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,015 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122087464#Comment_122087464

    Hmmm

    I thought it was illegal to use underfilled / false bottom etc. containers which give the impression they contain more than they do. If I see that on the shelf next to actual 500mL cans it's reasonable to assume it has the same contents.

    Shoddy at best, misleading at worst.

    There is no future for Boards as long as it stays on the complete toss that is the Vanilla "platform", we've given those Canadian twats far more chances than they deserve.



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    #9188
    Gusser09
    Registered Users Posts: 6,858 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122084546#Comment_122084546

    In the likes of Spain etc a weird bunch of headbangers like AAI wouldnt get government funding. They'd be laughed off the stage as would whinging publicans.



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    #9189
    Geuze
    Registered Users Posts: 13,100 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122084546#Comment_122084546

    Yes.

    45 cent for 50cl of pils in Germany.

    https://www.aldi-nord.de/produkt/pilsener-0313-1-1.article.html#/sortiment/getraenke/bier

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    #9190
    Geuze
    Registered Users Posts: 13,100 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    In their XXL offer in Lidl Germany soon, the deal is nine bottles of Perlenbacher, instead of eight, for 3.55.

    So under 40 cent for 50cl.

    Bear in mind that includes 19% VAT, a margin for Lidl, transport and production cost.

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    #9191
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,015 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    The amount of money the industry is making on mass-market lagers, ciders and stouts under MUP is phenomenal.

    There is no future for Boards as long as it stays on the complete toss that is the Vanilla "platform", we've given those Canadian twats far more chances than they deserve.



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    #9192
    con747
    Registered Users Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭con747


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122088063#Comment_122088063

    Don't forget about the latest scam re-turn.

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



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    #9193
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users Posts: 20,571 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    There is about an inch of space with no liquid in the neck of my 330 ml beer bottles. I have been scammed. Got them in the North.



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    #9194
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,015 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122088070#Comment_122088070

    I pay a deposit, I get the deposit back, where's the scam exactly?

    There is no future for Boards as long as it stays on the complete toss that is the Vanilla "platform", we've given those Canadian twats far more chances than they deserve.



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    #9195
    tjhook
    Registered Users Posts: 733 ✭✭✭tjhook


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122089062#Comment_122089062

    Many people are finding it difficult or even impossible to get all their "deposits" back.



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    #9196
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,015 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    That's not a scam, that's people being fuckwits and/or just looking for yet another thing to complain about. Schemes exactly the same as ours work perfectly well in other countries, Liveline callers are not exactly examples of people who are successful in life.

    There is no future for Boards as long as it stays on the complete toss that is the Vanilla "platform", we've given those Canadian twats far more chances than they deserve.



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    #9197
    con747
    Registered Users Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭con747


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122090502#Comment_122090502

    Fair play to you for not being a fucktwit and being so successful. 🙄

    Don't expect anything from life, just be grateful to be alive.



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    #9198
    bog master
    Registered Users Posts: 708 ✭✭✭bog master


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122090502#Comment_122090502

    I take exception to being labeled a "fuckwit". I support properly thought out green or rather environmentally friendly policies and most likely have been recycling and reusing since before you were born. I have had multiple issues with this brilliant system, am looking at increased waste collection charges while some members of this scheme get a nice payday.

    Increasing collection rates does not equal increasing recycling rates. 70% of plastics are incinerated-why bother putting them in a recycling bin?



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    #9199
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users Posts: 81,280 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    I find it particularly funny with all the pubs going under that the publicans can't realise the link between lower disposable income because of MUP and their pub business collapsing.



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    #9200
    Fr Tod Umptious
    Registered Users Posts: 15,029 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122090941#Comment_122090941

    Its far more complex than that.

    Pubs are going under because people are more health conscious, there are more entertainment options, drink driving laws etc etc.

    Old publicans are retiring and their children are not interested in taking over the business.

    Old reliable customers are literally dying out.

    People having less money because they spent more on off license booze as a result of MUP has little or nothing to do with it.



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    #9201
    tjhook
    Registered Users Posts: 733 ✭✭✭tjhook


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122090502#Comment_122090502

    The Indo did a survey and 21% of respondents said the machines "did not accept most of their empties". I.e. for 21% of people, less than half of their cans/bottles were accepted. These were people trying to comply with the system. Even if the other 79% of people had 100% of their empties accepted (not likely), that's still a significant loss overall.

    A system taking "deposits" from people and making it difficult to get back. Resulting in a large sum being collected from the public. If your landlord did the same with your deposit I'd call it a scam.



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    #9202
    Gusser09
    Registered Users Posts: 6,858 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122091418#Comment_122091418

    Its theft.



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    #9203
    Capt'n Midnight
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 90,777 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


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    Two years before MUP , we had dropped from 11.6 to 9.5 L of alcohol a year . The UK by comparison went from 10.1 to 9.7 L. Any gains claimed by MUP have to be viewed against the underlying trend and compared to the UK who would have semi-similar drink culture to ourselves.

    https://www.euronews.com/health/2024/05/04/dry-january-where-in-europe-is-drinking-alcohol-getting-worse-and-which-countries-have-cut

    But the kicker is this one

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    People with higher education binge drink 60% more often that those that didn't do the leaving cert or whatever the cutoff point was.

    It's reasonable to assume that people with higher education are on higher incomes and less affected by MUP isn't it ?



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