Random EV thoughts.....

Mickeroo · 12-03-2020 12:14pm

KCross wrote: »

True, for the sake of £1500 it would open up a few more sales. Having said that, their grant isnt massive anyway... £3500... relative to our €10k!

Technically our grant is only 5k though aint it as the other 5k is a VRT rebate?

KCross · 12-03-2020 12:16pm

Mickeroo wrote: »

Technically our grant is only 5k though aint it as the other 5k is a VRT rebate?

Same difference really.... its €10k off the price to the consumer.

Mickeroo · 12-03-2020 12:30pm

KCross wrote: »

Same difference really.... its €10k off the price to the consumer.

Do we see the benefit in the on the road price here compared to the UK though?

unkel · 12-03-2020 12:47pm

KCross wrote: »

I think it excludes the LR as well. The price in the UK for the LR is £47990 after the £3500 grant, so it is technically above £50k RRP

Good point. Will lead to the same result as in the Netherlands - vast majority of company car Tesla Model 3 will be the SR+

MJohnston · 12-03-2020 1:11pm

Boy am I glad to have an EV right now, how long do you reckon before people are panic buying petrol/diesel?

Mickeroo · 12-03-2020 1:13pm

MJohnston wrote: »

Boy am I glad to have an EV right now, how long do you reckon before people are panic buying petrol/diesel?

I don't think that will be a thing really, people will be travelling less so if anything fuel sales will go down.

MJohnston · 12-03-2020 2:28pm

You’re thinking about that too rationally! There’s no reason for people to be panic buying most of the stuff they are, but they’re doing it anyway. If people knew there was a big snowfall on the way, they’d be filling up, and I think they’re behaving much the same in this case. Let’s see though!

AndyBoBandy · 12-03-2020 3:02pm

Things would have to get fairly biblical for things like food & fuel to go into short supply.

A Farmer out picking his carrots or potatoes is in no danger of being prohibited by the coronavirus. Granted there will be packaging & distribution involved in getting those carrots and potatoes to your local shop, but things like that will not stop. At worst case additional protocol will be put in place to mitigate against the spread, but these sort of things will not stop.

Mickeroo · 12-03-2020 3:03pm

MJohnston wrote: »

You’re thinking about that too rationally! There’s no reason for people to be panic buying most of the stuff they are, but they’re doing it anyway. If people knew there was a big snowfall on the way, they’d be filling up, and I think they’re behaving much the same in this case. Let’s see though!

Fair point, I have a bad habit of giving people too much credit and forget a large portion of the population revert to making rash illogical decisions based on fear like some kind of animal when there's a public holiday much less a genuine crisis facing the country :pac:

MJohnston · 12-03-2020 4:41pm

I mean lookit:
https://twitter.com/brophy/status/1238083760328970240

Round Cable · 12-03-2020 5:18pm

ELM327 wrote: »

Can I have the lotto numbers for next week?

4, 12, 31, 34, 39, 41

Best of luck :P

Idbatterim · 12-03-2020 10:47pm

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/cars/news/uks-first-electric-forecourt-is-under-construction/ar-BB115BgJ?ocid=spartandhp

12-03-2020 11:10pm

Round Cable wrote: »

4, 12, 31, 34, 39, 41

Best of luck :P

I'd really laugh if they came out and no one picked them!

MJohnston · 13-03-2020 1:30am

Idbatterim wrote: »

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/cars/news/uks-first-electric-forecourt-is-under-construction/ar-BB115BgJ?ocid=spartandhp

Good placement of points there. Should suit pretty much everyone, unlike ESB's positioning.

The Black Oil · 13-03-2020 10:22am

Heard a Hyundai radio ad. It included a line about self-charging hybrids. A little dig at Toyota?

KCross · 13-03-2020 2:32pm

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/business/applegreen-dropping-fuel-prices-by-up-to-10c-per-litre-987726.html

Thats a big drop. I wonder how long that will last... depends on the Saudi's I guess.

Will it change anyone's mind about switching to EV... maybe!

Idbatterim · 13-03-2020 2:37pm

it would have some impact, but people spending tens of thousands to change now, with this extra economic uncertainty, would have a far bigger impact IMO...

13-03-2020 2:38pm

KCross wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/business/applegreen-dropping-fuel-prices-by-up-to-10c-per-litre-987726.html

Thats a big drop. I wonder how long that will last... depends on the Saudi's I guess.

Will it change anyone's mind about switching to EV... maybe!

And whether Russia decides it wants to kill off the US frackers, they could keep the price low for many months.

The long term low running costs of EVs will probably win out, short term could be different for people who are buying on PCPs or frequently change cars, they may not see the EV running cost benefits.

slave1 · 13-03-2020 5:49pm

For those looking at UK imports, just grabbed some sterling at 0.888 fx rate, best in a while

unkel · 13-03-2020 6:24pm

slave1 wrote: »

For those looking at UK imports, just grabbed some sterling at 0.888 fx rate, best in a while

Tell me about it. I got a very pleasant surprise when I saw how much EUR my GBP payment to Tesla cost me

Idbatterim · 14-03-2020 1:01pm

unkel wrote: »

Tell me about it. I got a very pleasant surprise when I saw how much EUR my GBP payment to Tesla cost me

Up to .90517 now!!!

slave1 · 15-03-2020 5:34pm

Idbatterim wrote: »

Up to .90517 now!!!

Where did you see that, I only ever pay attention to a deal price I can get and not random rates you see on web pages.
Deffo going in our favour though, picked a bit more sterling there now at 0.8935

Shefwedfan · 15-03-2020 5:57pm

0.89 on revolut

MarkN · 16-03-2020 9:04pm

Second time to have one of these for a while. Build quality between 2016 and 2019 is quite a bit better. Wouldn’t be my choice of colour but enjoyable to drive I have to say.

Black_Knight · 16-03-2020 9:10pm

MarkN wrote: »

Second time to have one of these for a while. Build quality between 2016 and 2019 is quite a bit better. Wouldn’t be my choice of colour but enjoyable to drive I have to say.

Them's some real first world problems there.

MarkN · 16-03-2020 9:19pm

Black_Knight wrote: »

Them's some real first world problems there.

You’re in a motoring forum.

unkel · 16-03-2020 9:56pm

What model is it Mark, and will you be doing a review of it on your channel?

MarkN · 16-03-2020 10:21pm

I will have it on the channel yes, wasn’t sure if the press stuff was going to dry up with everything going on.

This is her, long range. I realised when home that the cables included won’t work with my Zappi so I’ll probably head up the M1 to the Tesla chargers. Any idea how much they are to use?

unkel · 16-03-2020 10:33pm

Old software. You won't be able to switch off the traction control with that until you get the over the air update

What do you mean the cables don't work with your Zappi? The Tesla uses a standard type 2 cable, the exact same as every single other EV for sale today. The other cable is the granny charger that plugs into any 3 pin socket.

MarkN · 16-03-2020 10:42pm

The standard type 2 connection cable that fits the Zappi and the input on the car isn’t included (as in could’ve gone walkies). Or am I missing something?

JPA · 16-03-2020 10:49pm

You must have an untethered zappi then.

MarkN · 16-03-2020 10:50pm

JPA wrote: »

You must have an untethered zappi then.

I do because I won’t be driving any one type of EV so always rely on whatever is in the boot of the car.

JPA · 16-03-2020 10:53pm

MarkN wrote: »

I do because I won’t be driving any one type of EV so always rely on whatever is in the boot of the car.

Yes but only 24 and 30 kWh leaf, plus the Outlander use a type 1 cable. Everything else uses type 2,

MarkN · 16-03-2020 11:01pm

It takes a type 2 though, eTron etc charged a few weeks ago at home no problem.

JPA · 16-03-2020 11:10pm

MarkN wrote: »

It takes a type 2 though, eTron etc charged a few weeks ago at home no problem.

You seen to have the connections, just missing the actual cable.

MarkN · 16-03-2020 11:13pm

That's what I'm thinking :pac:

Sabre Man · 17-03-2020 12:53pm

You should have a blue type 2 cable, about 2 metres long. Every Tesla comes with one.

This one:

It's at 3:30. How do you link to a specific point in a video?

MarkN · 17-03-2020 1:41pm

Yes, the cable has been left out of the car is my point, so instead of being able to charge at home, I’m forced to use public for a week. I could use the 3 pin of course but it would probably take a week! I might spin up to the Tesla charger on the M1, does anyone know the cost?

JPA · 17-03-2020 1:50pm

MarkN wrote: »

Yes, the cable has been left out of the car is my point, so instead of being able to charge at home, I’m forced to use public for a week. I could use the 3 pin of course but it would probably take a week! I might spin up to the Tesla charger on the M1, does anyone know the cost?

Is it just a review car? The cost will be on the account for the car. You can't pay at the supercharger afaik.

MarkN · 17-03-2020 2:04pm

JPA wrote: »

Is it just a review car? The cost will be on the account for the car. You can't pay at the supercharger afaik.

Press car yes. That’s the kinda info I’m looking for - haven’t used one before so was just wondering do you just rock up and plug the car in. Is there a screen etc like the ESB ones. Just don’t want to waste a trip up!

Sabre Man · 17-03-2020 2:15pm

MarkN wrote: »

Yes, the cable has been left out of the car is my point, so instead of being able to charge at home, I’m forced to use public for a week. I could use the 3 pin of course but it would probably take a week! I might spin up to the Tesla charger on the M1, does anyone know the cost?

€0.29 per kWh

unkel · 17-03-2020 2:48pm

MarkN wrote: »

Press car yes. That’s the kinda info I’m looking for - haven’t used one before so was just wondering do you just rock up and plug the car in. Is there a screen etc like the ESB ones. Just don’t want to waste a trip up!

Yes, just rock up and plug it in, the car will start charging almost immediately (unless it is blacklisted). No swiping cards, no using apps, no pressing buttons, no waiting, no ringing phone numbers, no selecting cables, no making payments. Not having to lock your car or change any settings first. Just plug it in.

Only owning a Tesla myself for a few days. But some of the aspects are just a revelation. I kinda knew most of this stuff, but it isn't until you own / use one that you fully realise how good it is.

JPA · 17-03-2020 4:12pm

10 years ahead I said a while back. Nobody believed me.

mp3guy · 17-03-2020 4:13pm

JPA wrote: »

10 years ahead I said a while back. Nobody believed me.

I'm pretty sure it's widely accepted Tesla have always been miles ahead in the domain.

Black_Knight · 17-03-2020 4:57pm

Is it miles or years? Can we stick to one unit of measurement. :P

MarkN · 17-03-2020 5:26pm

I have to say, after only a day, I can see why they are loved by so many of you. Sure, they’re not perfect, the interior (in parts) could be better but they are impressive.

Thanks for that Unkel and others, that’s exactly what I was looking for.

btkm8unsl0w5r4 · 17-03-2020 5:44pm

I will be interested in your review on this....Tesla really have nailed the EV thing. It like they sat around and threw out ideas, and just did them all. No notion of how cars are classically done to stop them, and you start to wonder why all cars are not like that....and the performance, my god its like being abducted in a spaceship.....the S is not the most involving drive, its wide and its more comfort orientated buy its a stonking machine.

MarkN · 17-03-2020 6:07pm

Naomi Microscopic Rifle wrote: »

I will be interested in your review on this....Tesla really have nailed the EV thing. It like they sat around and threw out ideas, and just did them all. No notion of how cars are classically done to stop them, and you start to wonder why all cars are not like that....and the performance, my god its like being abducted in a spaceship.....the S is not the most involving drive, its wide and its more comfort orientated buy its a stonking machine.

It reminds me of the 6 series in lots of ways. It wafts around and you feel like a bit of a king in it.

I’d deffo be up for a 3 for the wife to use weekdays and for me at the weekends. The acceleration is just mind blowing.

jprboy · 17-03-2020 6:59pm

MarkN wrote: »

I’ve used 17.6kWh of battery driving since yesterday. To charge that at home would cost less than €3. To think I’ve driven that distance with a heavy right foot when conditions allow for €3 is mad.

Gets better - circa €1.50 on night rate

MarkN · 17-03-2020 7:41pm

jprboy wrote: »

Gets better - circa €1.50 on night rate

Did you just apply for it or is there a standing charge etc?

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