Point Village Shopping Centre

MJohnston · 21-07-2010 1:33pm #1

Does anyone have any information about the status of this?

I know Crosbie apparently sorted out the dispute with Dunnes a couple of weeks ago, and I've seen a huge amount of activity in the last while with a load of workmen working on the interior of the building. I can't work out whether its the Conference Centre or the Shopping Centre they are working on, but it'd be nice to hear that something is going to happen with it.

Also, is the Wheel due to arrive soon? They put the main structure of it up a couple of weeks ago and I figured they'd get it finished, but nothing.

jdivision · 21-07-2010 1:52pm

I think it's the new hotel, the Gibson, that forms part of it

MJohnston · 21-07-2010 1:58pm

No, I live right beside the area so I'm well aware of the Gibson Hotel, and its not that. The hotel has been open a while now, and its in a separate area to where the building work is taking place.

Riskymove · 21-07-2010 3:05pm

MJohnston wrote: »

I can't work out whether its the Conference Centre or the Shopping Centre they are working on,

I think its the conference centre

they have opened the car park which I used last week and there was still a lot of activity on that building, which is the conference centre I think

MJohnston · 21-07-2010 3:09pm

Yeah, I was trying to visualise the layout of it in my head. I figure the Hotel occupies the western half of the ground floor and the upper floors, the Conference centre seems to be on the south-eastern side and maybe on upper floors, and then the shopping centre lives on the Northern side and a lobby in the middle. Its hard to know though, can't see inside! I wish some form of non-Spar/Centra/Londis shop would open there though.

nino1 · 11-05-2012 10:42pm

anyone know when dunnes is due to open in the point village?

WoollyRedHat · 11-05-2012 10:45pm

Can anyone here give a run down of Crosbie's acquired developments and plans for this site? I know he's got the Shopping Centre and the new cinema there, but what other things does he have for the docklands? I saw his proposals a while back and it encompassed such things as an outdoor area for concert gatherings and other things, all pretty ambitious stuff, anyone know what's the story with it? Cheers.

Eggonyerface · 11-05-2012 11:20pm

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Can anyone here give a run down of Crosbie's acquired developments and plans for this site? I know he's got the Shopping Centre and the new cinema there, but what other things does he have for the docklands? I saw his proposals a while back and it encompassed such things as an outdoor area for concert gatherings and other things, all pretty ambitious stuff, anyone know what's the story with it? Cheers.

I'd be interested in this too, but I'd hazard a guess that a lot of the plan you saw is scrapped by now

Hannibal · 13-05-2012 5:40pm

I don't think there's much demand for a shopping centre down there and I'd be surprised if the cinema is still opened next year, it just seems too far out of the way of everything. I always thought Crosbie was being over ambitious, the new Point venue is fantastic thought

Mr Simpson · 14-05-2012 1:52pm

Apparently the shopping centre is on the verge of opening, Dunnes are preparing to start fitting out their store, with Savills looking for other tenants. Its only a rumour though, nothing concrete, but I've heard it from a few different sources.

Degsy · 14-05-2012 2:29pm

Bad location...far too ambitious and the whole lot belongs to another era.

It has fail written all over it.

Mr Simpson · 14-05-2012 2:35pm

Unfortunately I tend to agree with you, there's just not a big enough local population to sustain a development of that size, and we dont need another shopping centre in Dublin. It just wont have the stores in it to take customers from the major shopping centres in Dublin

Gee Bag · 14-05-2012 2:45pm

I heard Harry Crosbie on the radio in the last week saying the point Village development was a mistake. I can't remember him saying that the shopping centre was going to open soon.

Degsy · 14-05-2012 2:55pm

Gee Bag wrote: »

I heard Harry Crosbie on the radio in the last week saying the point Village development was a mistake. I can't remember him saying that the shopping centre was going to open soon.

Hafta worry about his state of mind sometimes..

http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/independent-woman/celebrity-news-gossip/harrys-giant-poster-tribute-to-gerry-2190474.html

Businessman Harry Crosbie is to remember his best friend Gerry Ryan by erecting a 60ft poster of the late broadcaster at his new Point Village Market which opens next Saturday.
Originally put up in September 2007 as a joke by Mr Crosbie, the 60ft x 40ft poster read "Gerry Ryan To Open 'Cod Piece' Chip Shop in Point Village" topped off by a supposed quote from the RTE star saying it was his "dream come true".
However, after the untimely death of the 53-year-old last month, Mr Crosbie said he wanted his much- missed friend looking down on visitors to the new 100-stall market when it opens next week.
"It will be great to have Gerry up on the building for the opening. He got a great laugh out of the poster. The only thing that would stop me is if I get any reaction that it's in bad taste," Harry Crosbie told The Diary.

_blank_ · 15-05-2012 7:20am

mmcn90 wrote: »

Unfortunately I tend to agree with you, there's just not a big enough local population to sustain a development of that size, and we dont need another shopping centre in Dublin. It just wont have the stores in it to take customers from the major shopping centres in Dublin

The CHQ Building is a ghost town as it is.

Gee Bag · 15-05-2012 10:33pm

Degsy wrote: »

Hafta worry about his state of mind sometimes..

http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/independent-woman/celebrity-news-gossip/harrys-giant-poster-tribute-to-gerry-2190474.html[/QUOTE]

Good Jesus! A life size poster of Gerry Ryan!!!!!!!!!!!!

LeeroyJ. · 24-02-2015 6:24pm

There is a new sign there now, Huge Point Village shopping center sign infront of it since last week.

Might be a good sign?

Birneybau · 24-02-2015 6:31pm

LeeroyJ. wrote: »

There is a new sign there now, Huge Point Village shopping center sign infront of it since last week.

Might be a good sign?

Dunno, haven't seen it.

JTMan · 24-02-2015 6:45pm

LeeroyJ. wrote: »

There is a new sign there now, Huge Point Village shopping center sign infront of it since last week.

Might be a good sign?

Does the sign say ghost shopping centre ahead?

L1011 · 24-02-2015 7:40pm

One solitary unit ("retail 2") is missing off the map of to let units on the website; but it has been for weeks.

The Spar cannot cope with lunchtime demand anymore and arguably neither can the Gibson as its got terribly slow so there has to be a market for *something* to open if only just for the office demand.

LeeroyJ. · 24-02-2015 8:34pm

Yea with Yahoo there now (they get free food) but it might make something moving in there attractive again? Why else would they put up a big sign years later..
One can only wonder.

AndonHandon · 26-02-2015 12:50am

Well there is massive development required on the north and south city docks so over the next decade a shopping centre could end up being like a Dundrum type place with more than just shops. That's assuming that plenty of apartments are built.

Asdfghjkl987 · 03-03-2015 6:21pm

"Dunnes must fit out if 7 other tenants found" I'm sure they'd be able to find the tenants http://www.irishexaminer.com/business/dunnes-must-fit-out-store-if-7-other-tenants-found-214158.html

JTMan · 03-03-2015 6:34pm

Asdfghjkl987 wrote: »

"Dunnes must fit out if 7 other tenants found" I'm sure they'd be able to find the tenants http://www.irishexaminer.com/business/dunnes-must-fit-out-store-if-7-other-tenants-found-214158.html

The operators have been looking for tenants for almost 5 years now without success. CHQ has similarly failed to attract all but a few tenants.

New tenants in the Central Bank building in 2-3 years time might change things.

cgcsb · 03-03-2015 10:46pm

It won't stay vacant for long. I could see it being full by 2020. Retail is a growing sector and consumer confidence is back to boom time levels. There's already been a spate of planning applications in the SDZ

JTMan · 04-03-2015 7:37am

Optimistic. The global tend is away from shipping malls as Internet shipping continues to grow. In the US, it had been almost a decade since the last big mall opened. Internet shopping is only going to kill more retail over the coming years.

LeeroyJ. · 04-03-2015 12:38pm

But in Ireland Internet shopping is still quite expensive and slow as non of the major online warehouses directly support Ireland.

Amazon DE and UK does deliver some items (not all) and shipping is sometimes quite expensive.

When I lived in Germany I almost only shopped online (next day delivery, free shipping) but here I only order what I can't find in town.

cgcsb · 04-03-2015 2:59pm

JTMan wrote: »

Optimistic. The global tend is away from shipping malls as Internet shipping continues to grow. In the US, it had been almost a decade since the last big mall opened. Internet shopping is only going to kill more retail over the coming years.

Perhaps globally, but in lil Ireland, increased footfall and increased consumer confidence is the trend. Liffey Valley is exapnding and Grafton street is now full.

JTMan · 04-03-2015 7:23pm

cgcsb wrote: »

Perhaps globally, but in lil Ireland, increased footfall and increased consumer confidence is the trend. Liffey Valley is exapnding and Grafton street is now full.

Ireland is not immune to the growth of internet retailing. There are multiple factors driving retail trends, internet shopping being a major trend factor.

JTMan · 08-03-2015 11:58am

The Sunday Business Post reports that Dunnes Stores have launched fresh new litigation against the receiver to the Point Village and the company behind the development. The lawsuit is against the terms of tenancy.

Meanwhile, NAMA, who have bundled the vast majority of the property for sale are not bundling the Point Village due to the litigation.

Hence, the Point Village remains in limbo, in the hands of a receiver, with Dunnes Stores still wanting nothing to do with it and NAMA unable to move forward.

What a mess.

P_1 · 08-03-2015 2:54pm

Asdfghjkl987 wrote: »

"Dunnes must fit out if 7 other tenants found" I'm sure they'd be able to find the tenants http://www.irishexaminer.com/business/dunnes-must-fit-out-store-if-7-other-tenants-found-214158.html

Build it and then they'll come springs to mind. Bit of a catch 22 but there is a rather large catchment area quite near it without a decent supermarket for some distance (East Wall, Grand Canal Dock, Castleforbes et al spring to mind). Once there's a busy supermarket established then the other units would be snapped up I'd imagine.

cgcsb · 08-03-2015 5:41pm

It's impossible to get smaller tenants in without an anchor tenant. If dunnes doesn't want it, I'm sure Supervalu would be interested in the opportunity.

LeeroyJ. · 09-03-2015 9:32am

Any supermarket would do great in there, Tesco, Supervalu, Lidl, Aldi anything, everyoen that lives in the docklands has to go into town for proper shopping.

whiskeyman · 09-03-2015 9:36am

LeeroyJ. wrote: »

Any supermarket would do great in there, Tesco, Supervalu, Lidl, Aldi anything, everyoen that lives in the docklands has to go into town for proper shopping.

There's an Aldi already open around the corner in East Wall road... and a Lidl has planning permission for across the road of it!

JTMan · 09-03-2015 1:39pm

LeeroyJ. wrote: »

Any supermarket would do great in there, Tesco, Supervalu, Lidl, Aldi anything, everyoen that lives in the docklands has to go into town for proper shopping.

Aldi - Too close to their existing supermarket.

Tesco - Closing stores. Only opening convenience stores for the next few years.

Lidl - Publically stated that they are putting further Irish store openings on hold for now. Focusing on UK expansion.

SuperValu - Not a million miles from their store just outside the IFSC. Also, Dunnes Stores litigation would need to be resolved before anything could happen.

cgcsb · 09-03-2015 3:11pm

JTMan wrote: »

SuperValu - Not a million miles from their store just outside the IFSC. Also,

You mean the Talbot Street Store? That's like 2km away from the Point. A massive spacing in an urban setting. The distance between the Talbot st and Aston Quay store is much smaller yet both stores get on just fine.

JTMan · 09-03-2015 7:43pm

Having lived in Spencer Dock, which is a mid way point, I always regarded SuperValu Talbort Street as being down the road. Also, the circular radius around the Point, includes the port / sea area, limits the catchment area, which is not the case for the other SuperValu stores.

Granted, some people in the Castleforbes direction would welcome a supermarket. Also, granted, the new bridges will open up greater access to the area from GCD.

Anyway, all that matters for now is that the new Dunnes Stores litigation is resolved.

Asdfghjkl987 · 18-04-2015 3:42pm

"Martinos Trattoria" opening soon in Point Village
http://martinos.ie

LeeroyJ. · 20-04-2015 8:12am

wow! With the coffee shop, The Odeon, Yahoo and soon a restaurant inside the building it might be coming alive! The Tiger is back in dublin anyway so it wouldn't surprise me

beauf · 20-04-2015 8:25am

The point village, the chq and conference centre are completely different locations. I dunno why you're taking like its part of the same area.

The area around the 3 arena, point village has got a lot busier since even last year and there's a lot of through traffic as well. It would probably support another spar/centra style place. But not much bigger I'd guess.

L1011 · 21-04-2015 10:40am

Asdfghjkl987 wrote: »

"Martinos Trattoria" opening soon in Point Village
http://martinos.ie

There's decent odds it will be in one of the retail units in Castleforbes rather than the actual centre at the rate its going...

LeeroyJ. · 30-04-2015 7:18pm

New Bar seems to have opened/will be opening. "charcoal Bar" is new on the big Shopping centre Sign. Cant find anything about it online.

LeeroyJ. · 30-04-2015 7:25pm

Just called the management, The ENTIRE ground floor of the Shopping centre has been let and will be opening before the end of the year!!!

JTMan · 30-04-2015 7:43pm

LeeroyJ. wrote: »

Just called the management, The ENTIRE ground floor of the Shopping centre has been let and will be opening before the end of the year!!!

Did management tell you as to whom the retail space is rented to?

LeeroyJ. · 30-04-2015 8:16pm

He said he wasnt allowed to say just yet. But the first opening would be inside the old Harrys Bar in 2 weeks, with an area on top (outside). And the Italian Restaurant to follow. All he said was that the entire ground flow has been let and would be opening more and more by unil the end of the year. So here to hoping!

I think the area has a lot of potential and (at least in Dublin) the Tiger seems to be back.

Asdfghjkl987 · 30-04-2015 11:10pm

I wonder if Dunnes are opening?

L1011 · 01-05-2015 5:24am

There's fit out works on the unit beside the side door (to the laneway) at the moment.

LeeroyJ. · 01-05-2015 10:26am

http://www.businessandleadership.com/marketing/item/49650-tallest-sign-in-ireland-ere

I dont think they would put up this huge sign for no reason

Also the new charcoal bar sign is on it since yesterday.

subpar · 01-05-2015 6:56pm

The area is definitely on the up and with construction work recommenced to complete the New Central Bank for occupation at end of 2016 by 1500 office workers it can only mean that more shops and restaurants will open up

LeeroyJ. · 26-05-2015 11:36am

A lot of works going on there. Would be nice if they would communicate a few plans.

BowWow · 31-07-2015 9:53pm

Asdfghjkl987 wrote: »

"Martinos Trattoria" opening soon in Point Village
http://martinos.ie

Has this opened?

Point Village Shopping Centre

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