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Calahonda52 · 04-04-2017 5:57am

BoatMad wrote: »

Im surprised at the heat issues , The 30 kwh is a goo bit more sensitive to heat as the charge taper is a lot less then 24 kwh

you must have FCP charged before you left , my own experience is that while the 2kWh can handle 4 FCP sessions in a row ( or in a 12-15 day ) The 30 kWh cannot, leaving the 24 kWh paradoxically as the car that can travel further in on session !!

Thanks for insights.
Not an FCP.
It got about 5 hrs on a 22kW in Malahide Dart station from about 08:00 and I crossed the M50 toll at 14:30 ....
That unit pushes about 5.75 kW in a hour.
Anyway, looks like I will need to replicate a similar mission to check it out again.:)
[Its in Belgard now for its first service this morning so relegated to the ICE for gym trip now at 0600}

Ps this also explains why there are no issues, yet, with the Taxi batteries thus far on multiple daily FCPs" they are mostly 24 kW for which there is longer term data.

peposhi · 04-04-2017 6:25am

Calahonda52 wrote: »

Thanks for insights.
Not an FCP.
It got about 5 hrs on a 22kW in Malahide Dart station from about 08:00 and I crossed the M50 toll at 14:30 ....
That unit pushes about 5.75 kW in a hour.
Anyway, looks like I will need to replicate a similar mission to check it out again.:)
[Its in Belgard now for its first service this morning so relegated to the ICE for gym trip now at 0600}

Cala, I bet you enjoy the silence when leaving the house at 5 in the morning

Calahonda52 · 07-04-2017 12:09pm

I have an offer of a supply and fit for the above that will also provide a REC certificate for the house and get the earth neutralisation issue resolved.

Can the Tethered cable be easily removed, if I want to implement some additional security features once they have all gone away..?
PS
New TCU fitted this week so now on line with the car!
Also got the full size spare tyre so all done now, except to drive it, am clocking 1,000 kms/week

goz83 · 07-04-2017 8:45pm

Calahonda52 wrote: »

I have an offer of a supply and fit for the above that will also provide a REC certificate for the house and get the earth neutralisation issue resolved.

Can the Tethered cable be easily removed, if I want to implement some additional security features once they have all gone away..?
PS
New TCU fitted this week so now on line with the car!
Also got the full size spare tyre so all done now, except to drive it, am clocking 1,000 kms/week

I had a look inside the same unit and it would be easily removed by the looks of it.

What kind of additional security are you talking about?

You could just kill the switch, or anchor the head of the unit with a mini u-lock if you wanted to.

Calahonda52 · 08-04-2017 8:18am

Am looking at putting the actual unit in a box on the wall or else inside the garage with cable through the wall in a smaller box.
Just want to know is it easy enough to remove and replace the tethered cable or is it all sealed up..

peposhi · 08-04-2017 8:24am

Calahonda52 wrote: »

Am looking at putting the actual unit in a box on the wall or else inside the garage with cable through the wall in a smaller box.
Just want to know is it easy enough to remove and replace the tethered cable or is it all sealed up..

It is not sealed. Similar to the cable and plug of any heavy duty appliances.
Once you open it you void the warranty though...

Calahonda52 · 08-04-2017 8:34am

peposhi wrote: »

It is not sealed. Similar to the cable and plug of any heavy duty appliances.
Once you open it you void the warranty though...

Thats what I read somewhere but not bothered.. Thanks anyway

goz83 · 08-04-2017 1:07pm

peposhi wrote: »

It is not sealed. Similar to the cable and plug of any heavy duty appliances.
Once you open it you void the warranty though...

It needs to be opened to install it. There is also no seal that would be broken when opened.

Calahonda52 · 10-04-2017 6:06pm

Got this done today.

The iPod is in the space under the cover in the "transmission shaft" in the back.

I ran a USB extension cable from the front.

Pictures at https://goo.gl/photos/Kw1ujASH94oxqCA7A

Not trying to win the Pulitzer prize for fotos so they are what they are!
Its all pretty easy to do, am happy to answer any questions, I ran an aux cable as well while it was all stripped out.

The blue Lidl mushroom container is patented....
Left the boot lace in for pulling through a screened unswitched power cable for a charging point back there at some point

ps: there its no front to back access on the driverside, only the passenger side

goz83 · 10-04-2017 10:58pm

I suppose i should post up my dashcam install soon. Ive been so lazy

Mope · 10-04-2017 11:04pm

So u have it always connected, charging and also feeding music to the car? All controls done via car's buttons?
Why there? Is this the only place where you could "bury" it so it's not visible?

Calahonda52 · 11-04-2017 8:20am

Mope wrote: »

So u have it always connected, charging and also feeding music to the car? All controls done via car's buttons?
Why there? Is this the only place where you could "bury" it so it's not visible?

Yep, its out of the way back there and easily accessed if I want to update the iPod. No room under the cups holder and did not want it exposed.
Using aUSB for music was not great as no tracks shown.

All controls from front, on my rig the iPod menu is replicated on the screen, it is charged as well, really happy with it!

Gumbo · 11-04-2017 9:40am

Calahonda52 wrote: »

Using aUSB for music was not great as no tracks shown.

I have a 16gb Micro USB in mu USB slot and it displays albums, song titles etc

DrPhilG · 11-04-2017 10:20am

kceire wrote: »

I have a 16gb Micro USB in mu USB slot and it displays albums, song titles etc

I have a bog standard USB stick and I get all the info too.

Calahonda52 · 11-04-2017 10:45am

in passing, what works with the aux?
I tried the iPod nano, no joy, the headphone out from the phone works.

Also: whats the story with DAB radio?

Mope · 11-04-2017 12:14pm

I read in manual of my car (Ioniq) that not all USBs will be recognized by the car. Even the factor it being with or without cable, or with or without adapter also plays it's role.
As for AUX I always wondered, when you plug your phone via this cable to car - does car takeover the actual playing from Phone or Phone still is pushing (generating) music as it would be some external speakers. Like, how heavy this setup would be on phone's battery?

That being said, I do not see myself using AUX when BT audio is there. Cannot wait to listen to my online radio while commuting (www.di.fm if anyone asks)

Mope · 11-04-2017 4:16pm

As per OP: I am finally officially member of a group with IONIQ EV in Platinum Silver which I picked up this afternoon from Fairview Hyundai.

Very busy at work to catch up with everything so no expanding on my current feelings, but they are all very much awesome

Calahonda52 · 11-04-2017 4:27pm

Mope wrote: »

As per OP: I am finally officially member of a group with IONIQ EV in Platinum Silver which I picked up this afternoon from Fairview Hyundai.

Very busy at work to catch up with everything so no expanding on my current feelings, but they are all very much awesome

As per OP!: I believe I am the OP in this thread and the last time I looked I have a Leaf, and now I find out you are not a true believer:D

Anyway, I wish you the best with it.

bk · 11-04-2017 7:15pm

Mope wrote: »

As for AUX I always wondered, when you plug your phone via this cable to car - does car takeover the actual playing from Phone or Phone still is pushing (generating) music as it would be some external speakers. Like, how heavy this setup would be on phone's battery?

That being said, I do not see myself using AUX when BT audio is there. Cannot wait to listen to my online radio while commuting (www.di.fm if anyone asks)

AUX is the same as plugging into speakers, it is still the phone who is generating and pushing out the audio. However a good car entertainment would take that input and then boost it for the cars larger speakers, like a powered amp does.

Over all it shouldn't stress the phones battery much. I'm not sure about Android, but I know that the iPhone has very high audio playback, iPhone 6s is 50 hours for audio playback with screen off.

BTW Bluetooth gives you worse battery time then using Aux and lower sound quality.

Evd-Burner · 11-04-2017 7:36pm

goz83 wrote:

I suppose i should post up my dashcam install soon. Ive been so lazy

Just did mine yesterday. I was delighted that I was able to hide the wire ðŸ˜

Calahonda52 · 11-04-2017 8:10pm

Evd-Burner wrote: »

Just did mine yesterday. I was delighted that I was able to hide the wire Ã°Å¸Ëœ

would interest in both the camera make and how the wire was hidden.

Note to self:
Am very pleased with the Nissan Connect now that the TCU is fixed..
Can start heater in the morning without having to have car plugged in and then earlier I gave it a 5kWh day rate top up.
Plugged it in to granny cable and then started the charge via the app, it overrides the charging timer switch.
It confirms charge has started and then told me it was finished so its unplugged and good to go in the morning:) Nice!

Gumbo · 11-04-2017 8:24pm

I use a DD Pai M6 Plus dashcam.
Have it routes through the panels to the 12v outlet under the radio.
Might invest in the hardware kit from Halfords to get rid of the connection though.

Mope · 11-04-2017 10:57pm

Calahonda52 wrote: »

As per OP!: I believe I am the OP in this thread and the last time I looked I have a Leaf, and now I find out you are not a true believer:D

Anyway, I wish you the best with it.

I was just referring to the idea of new BEVOC! :-)
Thanks

Thanks re AUX info too, useful to know!

Calahonda52 · 12-04-2017 5:59am

Mope wrote: »

I was just referring to the idea of new BEVOC! :-)
Thanks.

I was pulling your leg....! Case closed!

Mope · 12-04-2017 7:25am

My leg is now pulled towards driving the car more and more!

pure enjoyment

Calahonda52 · 23-04-2017 9:30am

Previous correspondence, here, re the above refers:)

On Page 27 of the current edition of Das National Rules for Electrical Installations, 4th Edition, ET 101: 2008, published by the Electro-Technical Council of Ireland [ETCI] , hereinafter referred to as The Rules, assuming the context so admits, there is a diagram of a TN-C-S system.

It is attached.

What does the M stand for?

This diagram is what I need to get to, because at present, I am missing the piece on the diagram connecting the M to the wire marked N.

The ESB guy who installed the Dual rate meter told me the N end of this piece is done into the meter, so requires them to come out and me to pay 189 euro

The diagram shows otherwise so where is this meter end connection referenced in The Rules, or otherwise
Thanks

Calahonda52 · 04-05-2017 6:58pm

12 d 43242
152 d 8695
161 ww 1520
171 d 22868 mise.

Got the last slot at 09:28

Mope · 04-05-2017 7:07pm

Hehe, I've seen this myself when went for lunch one day to Square. Was a bit shocked tbh, but then just smiled. Well done people who made switch to EV

cros13 · 04-05-2017 7:30pm

Calahonda52 wrote: »

12 d 43242
152 d 8695
161 ww 1520
171 d 22868 mise.

Got the last slot at 09:28

Hungry, drained of it's energy reserves and searching for it's next meal, it's at this point Leaf's are at their most vulnerable and must be wary of predators (unscrupulous taxi drivers, combustion vehicles blocking bays).

Gathering at the local watering hole, the etiquette of pack behaviour is all important. As Leafs jostle and manoeuvre for position, wary that anyone displaying selfish or underhanded behaviour will be snubbed by the rest of the group.

Then with full bellies, they will return to the nest, to spend the night resting and recuperating, preparing for the day ahead.

unkel · 04-05-2017 7:50pm

Well said, Sir David

BoatMad · 08-05-2017 1:33pm

Calahonda52 wrote: »

Previous correspondence, here, re the above refers:)

On Page 27 of the current edition of Das National Rules for Electrical Installations, 4th Edition, ET 101: 2008, published by the Electro-Technical Council of Ireland [ETCI] , hereinafter referred to as The Rules, assuming the context so admits, there is a diagram of a TN-C-S system.

It is attached.

What does the M stand for?

This diagram is what I need to get to, because at present, I am missing the piece on the diagram connecting the M to the wire marked N.

The ESB guy who installed the Dual rate meter told me the N end of this piece is done into the meter, so requires them to come out and me to pay 189 euro

The diagram shows otherwise so where is this meter end connection referenced in The Rules, or otherwise
Thanks

The current rules require a " neutralising " link , i.e. A connection between the house protective earth and the neutral wire . This is usually done at or near the esb meter.

In some evse installations , installers are doing earth loop impedance testing, and will not install evses where the earth test fails. This is typically the case where the house protective earth is only grounded locally through a earth rod ( which is no longer acceptable )

I don't have the latest etci rules , but I struggle to understand the reason behind installers not so installing evse points onto what was in it's time an acceptable installation

Calahonda52 · 08-05-2017 6:23pm

BoatMad wrote: »

The current rules require a " neutralising " link , i.e. A connection between the house protective earth and the neutral wire . This is usually done at or near the esb meter.

In some evse installations , installers are doing earth loop impedance testing, and will not install evses where the earth test fails. This is typically the case where the house protective earth is only grounded locally through a earth rod ( which is no longer acceptable )

I don't have the latest etci rules , but I struggle to understand the reason behind installers not so installing evse points onto what was in it's time an acceptable installation

That is it in a nutshell, thank you.

Re:
at or near the esb meter.
The picture I attached earlier,and include here, shows it done on the consumer side of the meter but not actually up into the meter.
The ESB bloke who installed the dual meter indicated that it was required up into the meter, at a cost of 189 euro.

BoatMad · 11-05-2017 4:40pm

Calahonda52 wrote: »

That is it in a nutshell, thank you.

Re:
at or near the esb meter.
The picture I attached earlier,and include here, shows it done on the consumer side of the meter but not actually up into the meter.
The ESB bloke who installed the dual meter indicated that it was required up into the meter, at a cost of 189 euro.

Its usually done at the output of the ESB fuse

Calahonda52 · 28-02-2018 1:40pm

27,000 kms
One one roadside collection.
Only car snow free car in the estate...
Service due next week

Water John · 28-02-2018 4:20pm

Good idea to keep it in the garage (snow free) on these cold days. Ha.

Calahonda52 · 24-04-2019 7:50pm

And 25,000 kms in 9 months on the petrol:(

unkel · 25-04-2019 1:09am

Calahonda52 wrote: »

And 25,000 kms in 9 months on the petrol:(

Why do you use the petrol so much?

Calahonda52 · 25-04-2019 4:29pm

unkel wrote: »

Why do you use the petrol so much?

Work footprint:
based in Nenagh, up to Tullamore is fine, however Roscommon, Galway Dublin, Cahirciveen and Slea Head are out of range and network cannot be relied on when I am making fixed appointments

unkel · 25-04-2019 11:31pm

Kona / Model 3?

But seriously, even in a very frugal petrol car, that 33k km per year costs you the guts of €3k in petrol. That plus the extra maintenance, tax, etc. buys a lot of depreciation, I'd say buying a new longer range EV would be cheaper than keeping your older petrol car for those trips

In the meantime, forget about Dublin or Kerry, but could you not at least destination charge in Roscommon and Galway so you could make it there, charge and make it back in your EV?

Calahonda52 · 29-04-2019 10:53am

unkel wrote: »

Kona / Model 3?

But seriously, even in a very frugal petrol car, that 33k km per year costs you the guts of €3k in petrol. That plus the extra maintenance, tax, etc. buys a lot of depreciation, I'd say buying a new longer range EV would be cheaper than keeping your older petrol car for those trips

In the meantime, forget about Dublin or Kerry, but could you not at least destination charge in Roscommon and Galway so you could make it there, charge and make it back in your EV?

I am paid by activity so every hour I waste charging during the working day is non recoverable.

unkel · 30-04-2019 1:34am

???

Destination charging means hooking your car up, go do your work (and get paid by activity) and when you are done, unhook it and drive home. No need to wait for the charging / no loss of income.

Calahonda52 · 30-04-2019 5:40pm

unkel wrote: »

???

Destination charging means hooking your car up, go do your work (and get paid by activity) and when you are done, unhook it and drive home. No need to wait for the charging / no loss of income.

That assumes the CP is available when I want it, has never been the case when I did the research in all the locations, also some of my clients are out of town

unkel · 30-04-2019 9:09pm

I would ask the customer if I could granny charge all day. I'd offer to deduct the cost from my bill

Calahonda52 · 16-07-2019 11:21am

Eeked 200 km out of the L30 yesterday

no wind
22C
flat driving in B mode, max speed 85 kms real
aircon on 16C
Just me, no luggage/passengers

Calahonda52 · 14-10-2019 10:56am

I have covered over the different things that could ID the site:)
Have not seen the distribution board yet.

Downside is that meter box needs to be open to use the plug

unkel · 14-10-2019 12:34pm

That's ridiculous. Who installed that? Should be named here.

KCross · 14-10-2019 1:07pm

I see there is a piece of the meter box cut at the bottom to allow you run the cable in and close the door. So, it would work fine I'd say.

Technically you are not supposed to put a consumer unit in the meter box but several people have done it on the forum and as long as its neat and profressionally done they seem to get away with it.

adunis · 14-10-2019 1:37pm

Well year newbie .
One of the best decisions you'll ever make.

Calahonda52 · 14-10-2019 2:05pm

KCross wrote: »

I see there is a piece of the meter box cut at the bottom to allow you run the cable in and close the door. So, it would work fine I'd say.

Technically you are not supposed to put a consumer unit in the meter box but several people have done it on the forum and as long as its neat and profressionally done they seem to get away with it.

Yes indeed they have, would be good to know if its okay, and not some "grey area" like the elec scooters drama queen discussion:D

Calahonda52 · 21-10-2019 7:29am

So first frosty morning and having reformatted my phone back to factory settings recently I no longer can heat the car remotely from the phone as all apps were deleted

I don't see it in the Appstore.
Any thoughts..
I have access from the computer for this morning but not ideal
Thanks

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