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United People, It's Time For Ruddy Change!

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  • #102
    whippet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,703 ✭✭✭whippet


    I checked UP’s Facebook page for some budget reaction ... it’s seems that even Jeff is hard pressed to find anything to get outraged about ... but the ever studious elected leader did spot a scandal lurking in the small print ... apparently the government will give an extra €20 to unemployed people who engage with job activation measures.

    The outrage ... the humanity ... the brass neck of the politicians giving people a hand up !!


  • #103
    Owryan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    whippet wrote: »
    I checked UP’s Facebook page for some budget reaction ... it’s seems that even Jeff is hard pressed to find anything to get outraged about ... but the ever studious elected leader did spot a scandal lurking in the small print ... apparently the government will give an extra €20 to unemployed people who engage with job activation measures.

    The outrage ... the humanity ... the brass neck of the politicians giving people a hand up !!

    I did the same!!!

    Probably too busy working out how much extra the state is giving him. Bet he is pushed that child benefit didn't go up.


  • #104
    furiousox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,012 ✭✭✭furiousox


    I zipped through his 2hr Seetec presentation video on youtube in 10 mins or so.
    One bit that struck me was where he said that his grievance with Seetec was personal as he didn't want to see his children being exploited by them the way people are being exploited nowadays.
    I found it astonishing that he assumes or expects that his children will also rely on the welfare system the way he does.
    Who knows, maybe they might get.......jobs! :eek:

    CPL 593H



  • #105
    whippet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,703 ✭✭✭whippet


    furiousox wrote: »
    I zipped through his 2hr Seetec presentation video on youtube in 10 mins or so.
    One bit that struck me was where he said that his grievance with Seetec was personal as he didn't want to see his children being exploited by them the way people are being exploited nowadays.
    I found it astonishing that he assumes or expects that his children will also rely on the welfare system the way he does.
    Who knows, maybe they might get.......jobs! :eek:

    he should make a new UP motivational poster about this 'set your goals so low - so you'll never be disappointed'


  • #106
    Owryan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    Wonder what Jeffy will make of this.


  • #107
    furiousox
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,012 ✭✭✭furiousox


    Link to article.
    He will not be pleased. :pac:

    http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2017/10/12/failure-to-read-this-article-may-result-in-your-social-welfare-payments-being-cut/

    CPL 593H



  • #108
    Owryan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    furiousox wrote: »
    Link to article.
    He will not be pleased. :pac:

    http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2017/10/12/failure-to-read-this-article-may-result-in-your-social-welfare-payments-being-cut/

    Meh, it doesn't have any of the ruddisms we so love to read and laugh at.


  • #109
    eldamo
    Registered Users Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭eldamo


    Owryan wrote: »
    Meh, it doesn't have any of the ruddisms we so love to read and laugh at.
    his wording and all in the headline though, someone at WWN is a fan.
    Not the national media attention he was craving though.

    WWN could have a specific jeffy correspondant to keep up with him


  • #110
    humberklog
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    How soon will it take for Jeff to threaten WW with the full might of his legal team?

    In other news UP congratulated Ireland's soccer team on their home win during the week..."Ireland 1 - Wales 0".

    Just noticed, it might be later today until he realises the sneaky buggers in WWN plagiarised his work as he's assisting someone in court over Seetec.

    "T.E.A.M. - Together Everyone Achieves Movement"


  • #111
    whippet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,703 ✭✭✭whippet


    Apparently it was set to be the most important court case in modern Irish history .. according to Jeff. Somehow I might just take that with a pinch of salt.


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  • #112
    Rumpy Pumpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Rumpy Pumpy


    Seems the Minister for Social Protection commited perjury according to Rudd. Might want to get the Council of State together as this looks like a proper crisis in the making.


  • #113
    Owryan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    He appears to be supporting the cannabis oil "cures all" crusade now.


  • #114
    whippet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,703 ✭✭✭whippet


    Owryan wrote: »
    He appears to be supporting the cannabis oil "cures all" crusade now.

    He supports everything that is antiestablishment and fashionable amongst the outraged classes ... supporting causes apart from his own lifestyle ... cos the taxpayer does that for him


  • #115
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,290 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    whippet wrote: »
    ... cos the taxpayer does that for him
    ...ah now, to be fair he is entitled to his welfare payments, his free house, his unwillingness to participate in either proper education or the workforce.
    People worked damn hard to earn those entitlements: it would be morally wrong of JR to completely disregard other people's efforts by actually working.


  • #116
    padd b1975
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,782 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    humberklog wrote: »

    "T.E.A.M. - Together Everyone Achieves Movement"

    Great name for a constipation support group.


  • #117
    Rumpy Pumpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Rumpy Pumpy


    He has posted over 20 times on his Facebook profile since 8am this morning. Extremely prolific output of Ruddish since his trip to the High Court.


  • #118
    humberklog
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    Rumpy Pumpy wrote: »
    He has posted over 20 times on his Facebook profile since 8am this morning. Extremely prolific output of Ruddish since his trip to the High Court.

    He's certainly making hay out of someone else's quest. Which will keep him busy...although I thought he'd have enough on his plate what his family situation and issues and of course...seeking employment.

    Did it go to a 2nd day in court and when will a decision be made does anyone know?


  • #119
    whippet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,703 ✭✭✭whippet


    It is interesting the context .. this is all about what Jeff believes is people being forced in to contracts etc.

    The genesis of Jeff’s fledgling political career was though the Direct Democracy Ireland crowd and it’s connections to the Freemen on the Land ideals of which are mainly based around a strange interpretation of contract law and consenting to stuff.

    While Jeff has been at pains to distance himself from DDI and Freeman movement he has defended Mr Gilroy (via complaint to the Boardcasting Commission of Ireland) and he has maintained that his departure from DDI was followed by almost 700 other members who surely are still involved with him and his new UP party. Unless he is guilty of as many U-turns and flip flops which he castigates FG and FF for his beliefs and understanding of the law must be along the same lines.

    So it now seems that we finally have a political party in Ireland who is campaigning to keep people out of work. Imagine a potential employer asking him to sign a contract of employment ?


  • #120
    humberklog
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    whippet wrote: »


    Imagine a potential employer asking him to sign a contract of employment ?


    I can't imagine him getting as far as that in a hiring process.


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  • #121
    For Forks Sake
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,654 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    whippet wrote: »
    So it now seems that we finally have a political party in Ireland who is campaigning to keep people out of work. Imagine a potential employer asking him to sign a contract of employment ?

    Are you on your oath Mr. Employer?


    I jest, there's no way Jeff would actually go looking for employment.


  • #122
    whippet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,703 ✭✭✭whippet


    For Forks Sake wrote: »
    Are you on your oath Mr. Employer?


    I jest, there's no way Jeff would actually go looking for employment.

    I suppose ... if he was in a position of being asked to sign a contract of employment he would be under duress so to be fair it wouldn’t be enforceable


  • #123
    Owryan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,024 ✭✭✭Owryan


    I'm blocked from his page, what's the court case you mentioned?


  • #124
    Pelvis Parsley
    Registered Users Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Pelvis Parsley


    Dunno, but he has it won according to him.

    He’s also giving some sage and well worded device on the weather this morning.


  • #125
    Eggonyerface
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 675 ✭✭✭Eggonyerface


    Pelvis Parsley wrote: »
    Dunno, but he has it won according to him.

    He’s also giving some sage and well worded device on the weather this morning.

    https://youtu.be/bSpBlk7J4rk


  • #126
    Pelvis Parsley
    Registered Users Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Pelvis Parsley


    Ruddish has possibly probably Atlantic crossed muchly.


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  • #127
    TheAnalyst_
    Registered Users Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭TheAnalyst_


    It is the biggest case in modern Irish history according to Jeff. 
    Nice to see him returning to his Freeman roots. He must have been jealous of Ben Gilroy getting all the press lately for providing dubious legal advice.


  • #128
    TheAnalyst_
    Registered Users Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭TheAnalyst_


    Pelvis Parsley wrote: »
    Dunno, but he has it won according to him.

    He’s also giving some sage and well worded device on the weather this morning.
    Is he actually mentally impaired in some way? He uses english like it's his third language.


  • #129
    Pelvis Parsley
    Registered Users Posts: 2,748 ✭✭✭Pelvis Parsley


    He s just not very good at anything, even reason or Kop On!

    The problem is, he thinks he is, and as such will never take steps to better either himself or his ability to communicate.

    He genuinely thinks there’s nothing wrong with either.


  • #130
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,290 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Pelvis Parsley wrote: »
    He s just not very good at anything, even reason or Kop On!

    The problem is, he thinks he is, and as such will never take steps to better either himself or his ability to communicate.

    He genuinely thinks there’s nothing wrong with either.
    ...he also has a cohort of followers who think his views are correct!
    The blind leading the blind.


  • #131
    humberklog
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    I'm having a bit of a problem with something.

    There are claims (somewhere?) of a victory by Damien (JR?) Fagan V. Seetec with the help of Jeff Rudd and UP. I can't find record of this case, whether ongoing or settled.

    I Googled Damien Fagan V. Seetec, JR Fagan V. Seetec and 332 JR V. Seetec. There were quite a few results linking to various FB accounts with names like We Say No, Traitor Ireland, Revolution this and Boycott that but when I click to their FB pages there's no sign of such a post.

    Anyone any ideas why?
    And anyone any how or if this case was settled....and what was the case all about?


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  • #132
    Rumpy Pumpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Rumpy Pumpy


    humberklog wrote: »
    I'm having a bit of a problem with something.

    There are claims (somewhere?) of a victory by Damien (JR?) Fagan V. Seetec with the help of Jeff Rudd and UP. I can't find record of this case, whether ongoing or settled.

    I Googled Damien Fagan V. Seetec, JR Fagan V. Seetec and 332 JR V. Seetec. There were quite a few results linking to various FB accounts with names like We Say No, Traitor Ireland, Revolution this and Boycott that but when I click to their FB pages there's no sign of such a post.

    Anyone any ideas why?
    And anyone any how or if this case was settled....and what was the case all about?

    http://highcourtsearch.courts.ie/hcslive/case_detail.show?sessionID=1139663159&yearNo=2017&recordNo=332&processType=JR

    So the case does exist, but there's no details on the proceedings or outcomes of the case. Dreadful website by the way, so if only if there were a man qualified in IT, web design and the law to update it!


  • #133
    Robbo
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,571 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    humberklog wrote: »
    I'm having a bit of a problem with something.

    There are claims (somewhere?) of a victory by Damien (JR?) Fagan V. Seetec with the help of Jeff Rudd and UP. I can't find record of this case, whether ongoing or settled.

    I Googled Damien Fagan V. Seetec, JR Fagan V. Seetec and 332 JR V. Seetec. There were quite a few results linking to various FB accounts with names like We Say No, Traitor Ireland, Revolution this and Boycott that but when I click to their FB pages there's no sign of such a post.

    Anyone any ideas why?
    And anyone any how or if this case was settled....and what was the case all about?
    It's in front of Judge Faherty again on November 23rd so any talk of a result is quite premature.


  • #134
    blackwhite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,960 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    Robbo wrote: »
    It's in front of Judge Faherty again on November 23rd so any talk of a result is quite premature.

    Not getting turfed out on their a*ses at the first hurdle is usually celebrated as a victory by the likes of Jeffand the various like-minded "I-can't-believe-we-aren't-freemen" groups.


  • #135
    washiskin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,364 ✭✭✭washiskin


    I'm waiting to hear how this hurricane is the Government's fault.:rolleyes:


  • #136
    TheAnalyst_
    Registered Users Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭TheAnalyst_


    washiskin wrote: »
    I'm waiting to hear how this hurricane is the Government's fault.:rolleyes:

    Leo's upcoming speech is nothing but a cynical political stunt.
    If he didn't give a speech he'd be accused of deserting the country.


  • #137
    Rumpy Pumpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Rumpy Pumpy


    TheAnalyst_ wrote: »
    Leo's upcoming speech is nothing but a cynical political stunt.
    If he didn't give a speech he'd be accused of deserting the country.

    The comments are so angry as well. Some of Ireland’s stupidest people comment on Jeff’s Facebook posts.


  • #138
    whippet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,703 ✭✭✭whippet


    Jeff has new video up ... cementing his position of being the Political Party of the Unemployable.

    He also seems to be taking an interest in goingson in the west ...


  • #139
    Chiorino
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭Chiorino


    I rarely put myself through the ordeal of looking at his page, preferring this thread for my updates but dear Jesus he really, really has gotten a bee in his bonnet with the whole Seetec thing. How dare they try to get him a job or help make him more employable.

    That being said, would anyone here willingly employ him? I reckon some form of CE scheme where he can't do any real damage is the only place you could put him.


  • #140
    Rumpy Pumpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Rumpy Pumpy


    Chiorino wrote: »
    I rarely put myself through the ordeal of looking at his page, preferring this thread for my updates but dear Jesus he really, really has gotten a bee in his bonnet with the whole Seetec thing. How dare they try to get him a job or help make him more employable.

    That being said, would anyone here willingly employ him? I reckon some form of CE scheme where he can't do any real damage is the only place you could put him.

    He must be completely unemployable at this stage. Not even 50 and on the scrap heap. His only roles now are to sire a few more kids, and give out about the State on the internet.


  • #141
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,290 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Rumpy Pumpy wrote: »
    He must be completely unemployable at this stage. Not even 50 and on the scrap heap. His only roles now are to sire a few more kids, and give out about the State on the internet.
    That's grossly unfair. He has fantastic IT skills!
    In these times where there is a shortage of such skills, companies are lining up at his door offering him...oh no, wait. Sorry my mistake.


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  • #142
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,508 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Jeffrey has been going down the 'legal expert' route for the last week, giving out 2 line clips from bits of Irish legislation, vague references to the constitution, and citing various clauses in European treaty.

    The problem is that he is using his almost certainly nonsensical understanding of these laws to encourage people not to deal with seetec or such employment bodies, boldly proclaiming that that it would be illegal for anyone to be cut off from their benefits for failing to deal with them.
    Hopefully no-one is listening to him - I'd like to think even his followers aren't thick enough to believe that his optimistic interpretations of the law are accurate, and even if he was proven right it would be no fun to be cut off for 12 months before winning a case.


  • #143
    blackwhite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,960 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    ArmaniJeanss wrote: »
    Jeffrey has been going down the 'legal expert' route for the last week, giving out 2 line clips from bits of Irish legislation, vague references to the constitution, and citing various clauses in European treaty.

    The problem is that he is using his almost certainly nonsensical understanding of these laws to encourage people not to deal with seetec or such employment bodies, boldly proclaiming that that it would be illegal for anyone to be cut off from their benefits for failing to deal with them.
    Hopefully no-one is listening to him - I'd like to think even his followers aren't thick enough to believe that his optimistic interpretations of the law are accurate, and even if he was proven right it would be no fun to be cut off for 12 months before winning a case.

    If people are thick enough to give credibility to any of Jeff's musings, I think you're being extremely optimistic to hope they won't take his legal "advice" as gospel. :(


  • #144
    whippet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,703 ✭✭✭whippet


    From living close to Drogheda (Jeff’s home town) I am astonished that he can’t find work. Small business all over the town are crying out for staff.

    As long as Jeff is advising his peers in the dole queue on how to dodge work these positions will not be filled easily.


  • #145
    eldamo
    Registered Users Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭eldamo


    whippet wrote: »
    From living close to Drogheda (Jeff’s home town) I am astonished that he can’t find work. Small business all over the town are crying out for staff.

    As long as Jeff is advising his peers in the dole queue on how to dodge work these positions will not be filled easily.

    to quote Jerome K Jerome
    I like work: it fascinates me. I can sit and look at it for hours.


  • #146
    humberklog
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    He did get a jobpath thingy about 2 years ago, he was helping with deliveries of furniture around the country. He was continually updating FB about what misery he was seeing around the country.
    After 2 weeks he went on a rant against his employer because he'd been asked not to use his phone in work. Boy-oh-boy was he not happy with this turn of events.
    This rant showed you all anyone needed to know about Jeff- not a grasp on reality whatsoever.

    Funny development recently that he's showing support to Integrity Ireland.


  • #147
    whippet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,703 ✭✭✭whippet


    I remember that alright ... one day when he was supposed to be working there was a protest of some sort in Dublin and if he didn’t work he would have his pay docked ... he was insinuating that it was a government conspiracy to keep him from the protest and he was effectively censored!! Funny times


  • #148
    humberklog
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    whippet wrote: »
    I remember that alright ... one day when he was supposed to be working there was a protest of some sort in Dublin and if he didn’t work he would have his pay docked ... he was insinuating that it was a government conspiracy to keep him from the protest and he was effectively censored!! Funny times

    Sneaky water meter installers ripped got busy outside his gaff during his brief and unhappy work experience days...the conspiracy grows.


  • #149
    Rumpy Pumpy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Rumpy Pumpy


    He had a rant today about the comments section of this article.

    http://www.broadsheet.ie/2017/10/19/just-sign-the-papers/#comments


  • #150
    whippet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,703 ✭✭✭whippet


    while I usually just laugh at his outbursts .. his rant this morning has actually really annoyed me.

    As Jeff calls himself the leader of a registered political party and has no problem quoting or having personal pops publicly at other political figures he can have no problem with people looking at his statements and comments and making critical comments about them.

    As I know he frequents here I am sure he will read this; and I do hope he does as he has blocked me from all forms of communications online for asking him some questions he didn't want to answer.

    Directly quoted from his rants today:
    They also further judged any unemployed people from the get-go as just all dole coach-surfers, being afraid of work. Well, to quote someone else: "You can't argue with wanna-be stupid" and they certainly are. End of story there.
    .

    Jeff .. it is quite clear that you have no intention of seeking gainful employment - your posting history on social media supports this view. You even said that you used the springboard course in Digital Media to further UnitedPeople when this taxpayer funded course is designed to get people to upskill for employment
    Speaking for myself, I have now six children. I helped to create them and I should rightly bear responsibility for their upbringing. At the end of the day I must do what's right by them - no ifs, no buts!

    This one is a doozy ... Jeff you should be responsible for your children .. yet it is the taxpayers of ireland who are shouldering the financial cost of housing, educating, feeding and clothing them ... obviously what you believe to be right by them is different to the majority. Children learn from their parents; cultural habits are formed from parents ... what you have been doing for the last number of years is teaching your children that you can live in a comfortable home and raise a family on social welfare .. and spend the majority of your time complaining and challenging the very system that allows you to support a family of eight without earning a single penny.
    No point in engaging with them, you're wasting your time that would be better progressive spent elsewhere. So the wise move on from stupid...

    Since he only uses social media to engage and rant .. anyone who does engage and not support his ideals are just deleted and blocked ... he can't engage with anyone unless they are blowing smoke up his arse .. this type of attitude is incompatible with progress or the ability to do anything positive. He can't be surprised when he is ignored and dismissed as a raving looney.
    Meanwhile, as regards my family, I will continue to work hard (including starting up a business presently) by trying to make my country better for everyone - including my children.

    Work hard? Business Start-up? As anyone who has ever started a business; it is a 7 day a week, 18 hour a day obsession . leaving very little time for anything else. I can not accept that he is realistically starting a business .. he simply can't based upon the time he spends designing rubbish clip art and posters for his ego party along with 6 children. His clear and graphic project has been on and offline for the last 12 months, it has 2 Facebook likes and by the looks of it zero customers and zero presence anywhere. The Drogheda Chamber of Commerce is very active and the local small business scene is buzzing .. why hasn't he gotten involved in any of these meetings, networking events etc ... pure and simply because gainful work is so far down his list of priorities why would he?
    ...So as others and myself continue to do this, I say to Mr Anon' Stupid... Fcuk you!"

    Well Jeff .... if that is your attitude to the taxpayers who support you, your wife and 6 children while you chase the political dream ... fcuk you too .. and I will call you out on it at any opportunity I have.

    PS... please please run for the next local elections; I really would love the opportunity to challenge you on the campaign trail.


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  • #151
    humberklog
    Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,580 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    The questioning of Seetec/Jobpath/Tarus Nua has apparently been popping up quite a bit over a period of time even here on Board.ie.

    Back in Sept. '15 there was this thread started over in the Work and Jobs forum. Fairly interesting reading, quite a few posters making it known that Seetec are a British private company being subbed in by DSP. I wonder if Jeff's 1 and a half years deep investigation was basically reading that thread?

    https://www.boards.ie/b/thread/2057498034

    More worrying though is a recent thread over on the State Benefit forum where a poster links into United People's site regarding Jeff's massive garbled investigative report. The poster (maybe rightly maybe wrongly) saying that Jeff brings up some interesting points. The problem here though is that Jeff's word might be taken as legal fact.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057781354

    I wonder is this Seetec stuff gonna be Jeff's golden goose? He's certainly getting the coverage across the 'net. Even WWN are nicking his logos:).


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