The Healy Raes

salmocab · 09-03-2020 3:34pm

Rows Grower wrote: »

Just ask anyone you know from Kerry that voted in the last election.

It shouldn't take long as one in three people voted Healy Rae number 1.

To be fair he asked you, you give out about people posting what you don’t agree with but you do nothing but post disingenuously.

Rows Grower · 09-03-2020 3:46pm

salmocab wrote: »

To be fair he asked you, you give out about people posting what you don’t agree with but you do nothing but post disingenuously.

Don't be a silly billy.

Shefwedfan · 09-03-2020 10:31pm

salmocab wrote: »

To be fair he asked you, you give out about people posting what you don’t agree with but you do nothing but post disingenuously.

You can't ask questions and expect an answer....

Bellview · 04-04-2020 12:58am

Any thoughts on Danny contribution in the dail regarding China. Has he apologised or is it still his point of view. Disappointed to see a TD make a comment like this let’s hope reflection he CB pulls back this statement

Shefwedfan · 02-05-2020 7:49am

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/oireachtas/danny-healy-rae-claims-ppe-bought-from-china-was-given-by-italy-1.4242047?mode=amp

I see the gob**** missed been in the news, really they should be talking to Gemma about how to make idiots of themselves

Did one of two of them actually go to the Dail? Can’t get them up any other time of the year

jmayo · 02-05-2020 11:44am

Shefwedfan wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/oireachtas/danny-healy-rae-claims-ppe-bought-from-china-was-given-by-italy-1.4242047?mode=amp

I see the gob**** missed been in the news, really they should be talking to Gemma about how to make idiots of themselves

Did one of two of them actually go to the Dail? Can’t get them up any other time of the year

Well the first part of the article points to fact Danny says he thinks there should be international investigation into how covid started in China.
Don't see anything at all wrong with that.

Rest of article behind paywall and refuse to now pay a cent towards that shyte paper due to the absolute boll**** they now push as articles.
So maybe in the rest of article he jumps to his usual conspiracy and anti-science stuff?

BTW once again he is the only one that is touching certain topics that the powers that be and politicians in general will not dare touch.
Usually for fear of the consensus in the media.

I am talking about the disgraceful decision to use the current crisis to dump asylum seekers in a new DP centre in Cahersiveen and introduce covid 19 into the community.

Funny how the local community talked to the shinner representative, but they initially seem to be pretty quite on the topic unlike the aforementioned Danny.

Of course now they all want to help the poor asylum seekers who have ended up being imprisoned in the hotel, but they were damn meek when it was only the natives being inconvenienced.

Edgware · 02-05-2020 11:58am

jmayo wrote: »

Well the first part of the article points to fact Danny says he thinks there should be international investigation into how covid started in China.
Don't see anything at all wrong with that.

Rest of article behind paywall and refuse to now pay a cent towards that shyte paper due to the absolute boll**** they now push as articles.
So maybe in the rest of article he jumps to his usual conspiracy and anti-science stuff?

BTW once again he is the only one that is touching certain topics that the powers that be and politicians in general will not dare touch.
Usually for fear of the consensus in the media.

I am talking about the disgraceful decision to use the current crisis to dump asylum seekers in a new DP centre in Cahersiveen and introduce covid 19 into the community.

Funny how the local community talked to the shinner representative, but they initially seem to be pretty quite on the topic unlike the aforementioned Danny.

Of course now they all want to help the poor asylum seekers who have ended up being imprisoned in the hotel, but they were damn meek when it was only the natives being inconvenienced.

The Asylum seekers are the only ones who will fill the hotel rooms for the near future and that money is as good as anyone elses

jmayo · 03-05-2020 12:24pm

Edgware wrote: »

The Asylum seekers are the only ones who will fill the hotel rooms for the near future and that money is as good as anyone elses

Ehh that money is the taxpayers money.

Myself, and well not sure if you are taxpayer or not, and every other taxpayer are paying for the privledge of housing people who in the vast vast majority of cases should not be here in the first place.
And in the process we make certain hoteliers and other private entities (legal professionals especially and NGOs, quangoes) reasonably well off in the process.

Edgware · 03-05-2020 12:26pm

jmayo wrote: »

Ehh that money is the taxpayers money.

Myself, and well not sure if you are taxpayer or not, and every other taxpayer are paying for the privledge of housing people who in the vast vast majority of cases should not be here in the first place.
And in the process we make certain hoteliers and other private entities (legal professionals especially and NGOs, quangoes) reasonably well off in the process.

Tell it to Gemma

blinding · 03-05-2020 12:31pm

jmayo wrote: »

Ehh that money is the taxpayers money.

Myself, and well not sure if you are taxpayer or not, and every other taxpayer are paying for the privledge of housing people who in the vast vast majority of cases should not be here in the first place.
And in the process we make certain hoteliers and other private entities (legal professionals especially and NGOs, quangoes) reasonably well off in the process.

Excellent Post. The vast majority are bogus and the whole thing is just a Racket to rip off the Tax Payer ! !

whisky_galore · 05-05-2020 1:25pm

blinding wrote: »

Excellent Post. The vast majority are bogus and the whole thing is just a Racket to rip off the Tax Payer ! !

It's a racket to fill dead duck hotels that should never have been built in the first place.

CrankyHaus · 05-05-2020 1:44pm

Edgware wrote: »

Tell it to Gemma

Is that really the best argument you can come up with?
No attempt to debate the facts just tarring those you disagree with as racist conspiracy-theorists with the broadest brush imaginable?

blinding · 05-05-2020 1:47pm

whisky_galore wrote: »

It's a racket to fill dead duck hotels that should never have been built in the first place.

For the politically well connected to fill their pockets.

Shefwedfan · 05-05-2020 2:07pm

jmayo wrote: »

Ehh that money is the taxpayers money.

Myself, and well not sure if you are taxpayer or not, and every other taxpayer are paying for the privledge of housing people who in the vast vast majority of cases should not be here in the first place.
And in the process we make certain hoteliers and other private entities (legal professionals especially and NGOs, quangoes) reasonably well off in the process.

Buy a hotel and make yourself rich so.....

Shefwedfan · 05-05-2020 2:09pm

blinding wrote: »

For the politically well connected to fill their pockets.

Anyone can buy a hotel....why not buy yourself one and then you can take the tax payer money

blinding · 05-05-2020 2:13pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Anyone can buy a hotel....why not buy yourself one and then you can take the tax payer money

And can you buy the inside connections to FFg;);)

Rows Grower · 05-05-2020 2:14pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Buy a hotel and make yourself rich so.....

Anyone that can afford to buy a hotel is already rich.

Shefwedfan · 05-05-2020 2:21pm

blinding wrote: »

And can you buy the inside connections to FFg;);)

Exactly

Bellview · 27-05-2020 9:51am

An bord pleanala have rejected for a second time MHR plans on Nancy Myles in Tralee.. KCC again approved the plan to allow flats into the old pub..

liosnagceann75 · 27-05-2020 4:01pm

Bellview wrote: »

An bord pleanala have rejected for a second time MHR plans on Nancy Myles in Tralee.. KCC again approved the plan to allow flats into the old pub..

Delighted to hear that. The Healy Raes are too used to getting their own way. I came across a Merc at a petrol station last Sunday. The Merc was parked right smack bang in the centre of 2 pumps where 2 vehicles normally fill. There were no other diesel pumps working apart from these 2. After a few minutes of waiting the bould Danny appears. Not sure if he was after filling the car or was in the shop. I had my jeep pulled in close to his front bumper and made him back out of the way.

Can someone answer this for me? Michael Healy Rae uses the same number for advertising rental properties on daft as the number that he uses for his Dail and constituency work. As Tds can draw an allowance of €750 to purchase a mobile phone every 18 months, are there any rules for Tds for using these phones for personal or private business interests?

liosnagceann75 · 27-05-2020 4:04pm

Danny was also outside the 5km Covid distance as he was in Killarney on Sunday

Shefwedfan · 27-05-2020 4:15pm

liosnagceann75 wrote: »

Delighted to hear that. The Healy Raes are too used to getting their own way. I came across a Merc at a petrol station last Sunday. The Merc was parked right smack bang in the centre of 2 pumps where 2 vehicles normally fill. There were no other diesel pumps working apart from these 2. After a few minutes of waiting the bould Danny appears. Not sure if he was after filling the car or was in the shop. I had my jeep pulled in close to his front bumper and made him back out of the way.

Can someone answer this for me? Michael Healy Rae uses the same number for advertising rental properties on daft as the number that he uses for his Dail and constituency work. As Tds can draw an allowance of €750 to purchase a mobile phone every 18 months, are there any rules for Tds for using these phones for personal or private business interests?

Him using his government phone is only the start of it......

CrankyHaus · 27-05-2020 4:54pm

liosnagceann75 wrote: »

Delighted to hear that. The Healy Raes are too used to getting their own way. I came across a Merc at a petrol station last Sunday. The Merc was parked right smack bang in the centre of 2 pumps where 2 vehicles normally fill. There were no other diesel pumps working apart from these 2. After a few minutes of waiting the bould Danny appears. Not sure if he was after filling the car or was in the shop. I had my jeep pulled in close to his front bumper and made him back out of the way.

Can someone answer this for me? Michael Healy Rae uses the same number for advertising rental properties on daft as the number that he uses for his Dail and constituency work. As Tds can draw an allowance of €750 to purchase a mobile phone every 18 months, are there any rules for Tds for using these phones for personal or private business interests?

Not sure about the "rules", but the de-facto situation seems to be it's open season unless the media get wind of it and you pay back the money for good optics while spinning that you did nothing wrong:

https://www.thejournal.ie/michelle-mulherin-kenya-phone-calls-1956728-Feb2015/

I wouldn't be surprised to find MHR doing that to boost his cute-hoorism score with the types in his own electorate who value such "smarts" from a man "pulling shtrokes". Phone bills for business use are tax deductible so he wouldn't be paying either way.

SlowBlowin · 27-05-2020 6:39pm

Wow ! Hes using a partly work funded phone to revive personal calls ! How despicable.

Thinking of it, I am no better than MHR, we both have sunk to that same level I often took a call from the wife, doctor, dentist, delivery man etc on my work mobile. A colleague of mine did the same, he had a rental and he used his office mobile number (scum).

I wish I was as pure as you guys, but I guess all 3 of us should be lined up and shot.

Shefwedfan · 27-05-2020 6:51pm

SlowBlowin wrote: »

Wow ! Hes using a partly work funded phone to revive personal calls ! How despicable.

Thinking of it, I am no better than MHR, we both have sunk to that same level I often took a call from the wife, doctor, dentist, delivery man etc on my work mobile. A colleague of mine did the same, he had a rental and he used his office mobile number (scum).

I wish I was as pure as you guys, but I guess all 3 of us should be lined up and shot.

Always with the excuses

SlowBlowin · 27-05-2020 7:21pm

The verb excuse implies there is blame somewhere, so just to clarify - you (Shefwedfan) believe it is wrong to receive a call on a phone that is partly financed (allowance of 750) by the employer ?

Yes or No answer please ?

liosnagceann75 · 27-05-2020 8:01pm

SlowBlowin wrote: »

The verb excuse implies there is blame somewhere, so just to clarify - you (Shefwedfan) believe it is wrong to receive a call on a phone that is partly financed (allowance of 750) by the employer ?

Yes or No answer please ?

Why don't you answer the original question asked?

SlowBlowin · 27-05-2020 8:12pm

Why is this one too difficult ? I opeed the thread, and the last page was all the same theme

I was reacting to the posts all criticising MHR for receiving calls on his partly work founded mobile.

On this specific point I think you are all wrong, on all other points you might well be right, but on this point no, I think you are just getting carried away with your hate.

Shefwedfan · 27-05-2020 8:33pm

SlowBlowin wrote: »

The verb excuse implies there is blame somewhere, so just to clarify - you (Shefwedfan) believe it is wrong to receive a call on a phone that is partly financed (allowance of 750) by the employer ?

Yes or No answer please ?

It's wrong to use a government number on an advertisement in the first place.

But sure I suppose that is him "sticking it up the boys in Dublin"

For many years now people have ran two numbers, one for work and one for personal, most new phones now can hold a SIM. Is it too much to ask a Healy Rae to spent 40 quid a month on his own SIM?

SlowBlowin · 27-05-2020 8:44pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

It's wrong to use a government number on an advertisement in the first place.

But sure I suppose that is him "sticking it up the boys in Dublin"

As always you wont answer the question, nothing new.

Can you direct me to the info that says its a government number, as I think you are again wrong on this point:

"This scheme allows Members to buy a mobile phone and car kit from a provider of their choice and claim back the cost of the equipment to a maximum of €750 in an 18-month period. The costs covered include the purchase of a handset, car kit, yearly insurance premium, maintenance and miscellaneous expenses. In order to be reimbursed, Members must complete a claim form and provide supporting receipts."

SlowBlowin · 27-05-2020 8:45pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Is it too much to ask a Healy Rae to spent 40 quid a month on his own SIM?

What for ? To comply with your incorrect assumptions ?

Water John · 27-05-2020 9:18pm

I hear the Healy Raes still intend expanding into Cork NW. Thought they would at the last election.

Rows Grower · 27-05-2020 10:09pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

It's wrong to use a government number on an advertisement in the first place.

But sure I suppose that is him "sticking it up the boys in Dublin"

For many years now people have ran two numbers, one for work and one for personal, most new phones now can hold a SIM. Is it too much to ask a Healy Rae to spent 40 quid a month on his own SIM?

Ehhhh, what are you waffling on about now?

Annasopra · 28-05-2020 7:24am

Water John wrote: »

I hear the Healy Raes still intend expanding into Cork NW. Thought they would at the last election.

One of their sons or daughters running in next election there?

liosnagceann75 · 28-05-2020 10:32am

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

One of their sons or daughters running in next election there?

Máire Danny's daughter is teaching in Bantry

SlowBlowin · 28-05-2020 11:19am

Rows Grower wrote: »

Ehhhh, what are you waffling on about now?

They were having a go at MHR using his mobile to receive personal calls.

Now they have realised that they were talking rubbish they have gone silent/want answers to different questions (as normal).

I was going to mention that MHR paid the greatest contribution of any TD when buying his mobile, he paid 50% of the cost.

liosnagceann75 · 28-05-2020 12:05pm

SlowBlowin wrote: »

They were having a go at MHR using his mobile to receive personal calls.

Now they have realised that they were talking rubbish they have gone silent/want answers to different questions (as normal).

I was going to mention that MHR paid the greatest contribution of any TD when buying his mobile, he paid 50% of the cost.

MHR claimed the maximum amount available €750 when purchasing his phone. Some Tds have spent over €750 on a phone while others have spent less. Your point about MHR paying 50% of the cost is nonsense and pure waffle

SlowBlowin · 28-05-2020 12:46pm

liosnagceann75 wrote: »

MHR claimed the maximum amount available €750 when purchasing his phone. Some Tds have spent over €750 on a phone while others have spent less. Your point about MHR paying 50% of the cost is nonsense and pure waffle

Making the point that he paid close to 50% of the costs, so not nonsense, factually correct.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/mobile-phone-claims-for-politicians-total-over-37000-974993.html

"His grey iPhone XS Max 256GB along with a protective screen, a cover, and a cable ended up costing €1,481.40. On the invoice a reduction of €40.65 is listed under “manager’s good will” and Mr Healy Rae was later reimbursed €750 from the Oireachtas."

Bellview · 28-05-2020 1:14pm

liosnagceann75 wrote: »

MHR claimed the maximum amount available €750 when purchasing his phone. Some Tds have spent over €750 on a phone while others have spent less. Your point about MHR paying 50% of the cost is nonsense and pure waffle

Kerry’s eye gave a good article comparing other kerry TD phone and mhr.. mhr spent more than all the others combined

salmocab · 28-05-2020 1:18pm

SlowBlowin wrote: »

Making the point that he paid close to 50% of the costs, so not nonsense, factually correct.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/mobile-phone-claims-for-politicians-total-over-37000-974993.html

"His grey iPhone XS Max 256GB along with a protective screen, a cover, and a cable ended up costing €1,481.40. On the invoice a reduction of €40.65 is listed under “manager’s good will” and Mr Healy Rae was later reimbursed €750 from the Oireachtas."

Factually correct but it was either a disingenuous post to start or you hadn’t read up on it properly.

SlowBlowin · 28-05-2020 1:59pm

So you still think its wrong for MHR to receive personal calls on a mobile he has paid 50% towards.

Fine we have different points of view.

liosnagceann75 · 28-05-2020 2:10pm

SlowBlowin wrote: »

So you still think its wrong for MHR to receive personal calls on a mobile he has paid 50% towards.

Fine we have different points of view.

Who pays the mobile phone bill? Is it the taxpayer, MHR or is it split 50/50?

SlowBlowin · 28-05-2020 2:21pm

liosnagceann75 wrote: »

Who pays the mobile phone bill? Is it the taxpayer, MHR or is it split 50/50?

The person calling him, people were complaining about him receiving calls.

salmocab · 28-05-2020 2:24pm

SlowBlowin wrote: »

So you still think its wrong for MHR to receive personal calls on a mobile he has paid 50% towards.

Fine we have different points of view.

If that’s aimed at me I don’t give a toss what MHR does with his phone so long as he’s not taking the pi55 out of tax payers. I’m sure he’s on a plan with a lot included and I doubt his bills are affected by this. It’s possible to see both sides.

SlowBlowin · 28-05-2020 2:38pm

salmocab wrote: »

Factually correct but it was either a disingenuous post to start or you hadn’t read up on it properly.

Absolute rubbish.

salmocab · 28-05-2020 2:44pm

SlowBlowin wrote: »

Absolute rubbish.

Not at all but work away

SlowBlowin · 28-05-2020 3:57pm

salmocab wrote: »

Not at all but work away

Legal ownership of an item is largely determined by who paid/purchased it, its a revilement point - if you think about it.

salmocab · 28-05-2020 5:01pm

SlowBlowin wrote: »

Legal ownership of an item is largely determined by who paid/purchased it, its a revilement point - if you think about it.

Big words, I see I’ll have to watch out for you.

SlowBlowin · 28-05-2020 5:37pm

salmocab wrote: »

Big words, I see I’ll have to watch out for you.

Childish reply, ignoring the relevant points, says a lot.

Hopefully all the bitching about MHR using a phone (he paid 50% for) to receive personal calls is put to bed now.

I will check back in a month to see what MHR has angered you with next, maybe it will be something valid.

salmocab · 28-05-2020 5:49pm

SlowBlowin wrote: »

Childish reply, ignoring the relevant points, says a lot.

Hopefully all the bitching about MHR using a phone (he paid 50% for) to receive personal calls is put to bed now.

I will check back in a month to see what MHR has angered you with next, maybe it will be something valid.

If you read my post on it I clearly said I don’t give a toss about this issue. It hasn’t angered me one bit it’s a nothing issue.

The Healy Raes

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