Know anyone with bipolar?

Hector Savage · 14-10-2019 10:42am

One More Toy wrote: »

Yeah after reading that it makes me believe you're more of an @rsehole quite frankly

Yeah guzman, you should have suffered just for the sake of her - even though it was a brand new relationship.

You were right to gtfo , don't listen to this arsehole talk.

14-10-2019 12:29pm

Raconteuse wrote: »

I don't think bipolar disorder is caused by environment like anxiety, depression, PTSD, even though it shares some of the same symptoms.

I remember googling this before, and found a really good article on the genetics of bipolar, and how it's far more genetic than most psychiatric illnesses/disorders. RIght now I can't find the link where I read it. But this article implies that it's 40 - 70% genetic, and the rest must be developmental (?), since if your identical twin has bipolar, the chances you'll also suffer from it is within the above range.

https://www.webmd.com/bipolar-disorder/guide/bipolar-disorder-whos-at-risk

spodoinkle · 14-10-2019 12:56pm

mr_fegelien wrote: »

My psychiatrist told me I suffered from this a while back in 2013. Tried coke this year and it was exactly like the mania I experienced. Did some ****ed up stuff to my body thinking I was invicible.

But I've heard some people spend their entire wages on frivolous gifts.

Yes a friend has it, we were at a work Christmas party one year and he was sure it was his party, he was going around thanking everyone for coming, he also had a serious gambling problem at one stage, which can be associated with bi-polar

JupiterKid · 14-10-2019 2:29pm

There are mental health issues on my late mother's side of the family also, as my aunt was a complete drama queen and was very neurotic, my own mother probably had undiagnosed mental health issues with respect to mood swings (my two sisters and I fully agree on this, but my father never wanted to talk about it) and I have had bad anxiety all my life - which worsens and abates - going right back to my childhood and I am also a recovering alcoholic.

My middle sister has BPD and is on medication for it and one of my uncles on my mother's side was a chronic alcoholic who drank himself into an early grave in his 50s. At least four of my cousins on that side of the family have or had mental health issues, two with bipolar, one with chronic anxiety and one with BPD and substance abuse that also led to a sad, early grave for him. There is definitely a genetic factor at play.

OP- you cannot just have "a touch" of bipolar. It is a very serious long-term, lifelong condition and either you have it or you don't.

14-10-2019 3:21pm

OP it might be an idea to get off Boards and engage with mental health services.

As others have posted it's not possible to have a 'touch' of bipolar disorder. It's an extremely serious and debilitating illness. I completely understand why a person would not want to be in a relationship with someone who has a diagnosis. There is no responsibility on people to be martyrs. If its draining the life out of you and your own health is being impacted then walking away is probably wise.

mr_fegelien · 14-10-2019 3:33pm

Deleted User wrote: »

OP it might be an idea to get off Boards and engage with mental health services.

As others have posted it's not possible to have a 'touch' of bipolar disorder. It's an extremely serious and debilitating illness. I completely understand why a person would not want to be in a relationship with someone who has a diagnosis. There is no responsibility on people to be martyrs. If its draining the life out of you and your own health is being impacted then walking away is probably wise.

Well what did I experience then? It was psychosis of some sort no?? I basically felt extrmely elated in 2013, tried castrating myself and performing other self mutilation acts (which felt good). Then when I realized none of the goals I had would come true, I crashed hard in the beginning of 2014 and at proceeded to attack a family member.

endacl · 14-10-2019 3:35pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

OP it might be an idea to get off Boards

Seconded.

mr_fegelien · 14-10-2019 3:37pm

endacl wrote: »

Seconded.

Why?

Mean Laqueefa · 14-10-2019 3:38pm

Deleted User wrote: »

OP it might be an idea to get off Boards and engage with mental health services.

As others have posted it's not possible to have a 'touch' of bipolar disorder. It's an extremely serious and debilitating illness. I completely understand why a person would not want to be in a relationship with someone who has a diagnosis. There is no responsibility on people to be martyrs. If its draining the life out of you and your own health is being impacted then walking away is probably wise.

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Well what did I experience then? It was psychosis of some sort no?? I basically felt extrmely elated in 2013, tried castrating myself and performing other self mutilation acts (which felt good). Then when I realized none of the goals I had would come true, I crashed hard in the beginning of 2014 and at proceeded to attack a family member.

I hope you take the bolded post seriously

14-10-2019 3:39pm

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Well what did I experience then? It was psychosis of some sort no?? I basically felt extrmely elated in 2013, tried castrating myself and performing other self mutilation acts (which felt good). Then when I realized none of the goals I had would come true, I crashed hard in the beginning of 2014 and at proceeded to attack a family member.

Your psychiatrist told you that what you experienced mirrored bipolar, that is not equal to diagnosing you with same. Would you consider seeking a referral to meet with a psychiatrist again?

mr_fegelien · 14-10-2019 3:40pm

Mean Laqueefa wrote: »

I hope you take the bolded post seriously

Why do you guys always suggest that I'm mentally insane? Why jump on that ship? What in my posts signifies that I'm mentally ill.

Mean Laqueefa · 14-10-2019 3:42pm

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Well what did I experience then? It was psychosis of some sort no?? I basically felt extrmely elated in 2013, tried castrating myself and performing other self mutilation acts (which felt good). Then when I realized none of the goals I had would come true, I crashed hard in the beginning of 2014 and at proceeded to attack a family member.

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Why do you guys always suggest that I'm mentally insane? Why jump on that ship? What in my posts signifies that I'm mentally ill.

seriously ?

mr_fegelien · 14-10-2019 3:43pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Your psychiatrist told you that what you experienced mirrored bipolar, that is not equal to diagnosing you with same. Would you consider seeking a referral to meet with a psychiatrist again?

I already saw one in Drogheda. I've told them ALL these things and they aren't concerned AFAIK.

Trust me, trust me, it's not just one psychiatrist that knows about me. I've been to one in St, John of Gods in Stillorgan, Cluain Mhuire in Blackrock, liasion psychiatrists in Beaumont hospital and now currently one with the HSE in Drogheda

14-10-2019 3:45pm

mr_fegelien wrote: »

I already saw one in Drogheda. I've told them ALL these things and they aren't concerned AFAIK.

Trust me, trust me, it's not just one psychiatrist that knows about me. I've been to one in St, John of Gods in Stillorgan, Cluain Mhuire in Blackrock, liasion psychiatrists in Beaumont hospital and now currently one with the HSE in Drogheda

You are attending a psychiatrist then? Have they given you a diagnosis and/medication? Is there a plan in place for you?

Now you don't need to answer those questions here. It is your own business. I have a feeling you need a little bit more input is all.

mr_fegelien · 14-10-2019 3:51pm

Deleted User wrote: »

You are attending a psychiatrist then? Have they given you a diagnosis and/medication? Is there a plan in place for you?

Now you don't need to answer those questions here. It is your own business. I have a feeling you need a little bit more input is all.

Yes, I was prescribed 8mg of the antipsychotic, risperidone and 20mg of the antidepressant, trintellix. Run out of them though and no job to refill them. I got the prescription but have no cash at all so ****ed.

That's why my posts may be all over the place.

14-10-2019 3:54pm

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Yes, I was prescribed 8mg of the antipsychotic, risperidone and 20mg of the antidepressant, trintellix. Run out of them though and no job to refill them. I got the prescription but have no cash at all so ****ed.

That's why my posts may be all over the place.

Ok. First thing. Its really important that you take your meds. Are you entitled to a medical card?

Second thing. You need more than meds. You need someone to talk to. Family, friends. Someone.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 14-10-2019 4:00pm

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Yes, I was prescribed 8mg of the antipsychotic, risperidone and 20mg of the antidepressant, trintellix. Run out of them though and no job to refill them. I got the prescription but have no cash at all so ****ed.

That's why my posts may be all over the place.

Where are your parents? Will they not pay for your medication?

mr_fegelien · 14-10-2019 4:04pm

Bryce Old Topic wrote: »

Where are your parents? Will they not pay for your medication?

They're abroad in Africa. Staying there for a month. Just left me with food in the fridge but no money. They're in the villege but have no access to internet or bank.

14-10-2019 4:06pm

Bryce Old Topic wrote: »

Where are your parents? Will they not pay for your medication?

We don't know the lads circumstances. There is help out there for young people in difficult family situations.

Edit: Ah ok. Some clarity has been given.

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 14-10-2019 4:07pm

mr_fegelien wrote: »

They're abroad in Africa. Staying there for a month. Just left me with food in the fridge but no money. They're in the villege but have no access to internet or bank.

That went away for a month, knew you were on and needed meds, and didn't ensure you had at least a month's supply? OK.

14-10-2019 4:08pm

mr_fegelien wrote: »

They're abroad in Africa. Staying there for a month. Just left me with food in the fridge but no money. They're in the villege but have no access to internet or bank.

This is crazy OP. Are you being truthful?

Mean Laqueefa · 14-10-2019 4:08pm

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 14-10-2019 4:08pm

Deleted User wrote: »

We don't know the lads circumstances. There is help out there for young people in difficult family situations.

Edit: Ah ok. Some clarity has been given.

In fairness, he has mentioned them many times.

14-10-2019 4:09pm

Bryce Old Topic wrote: »

In fairness, he has mentioned them many times.

We don't know the ins and outs of his home life is what I mean.

Mean Laqueefa · 14-10-2019 4:23pm

Has the OP contacted citizens advice, i can not see leaving a vulnerable person without required meds being acceptable, though a bill for meds could not be paid at a later date no ? when is parent are home from the village with no access to bank accounts :pac:

Its sad to see when there are honest answers from people regards to help if the OP situ was real.

But imo he talking through his hoop at this stage and trying to a lazy attempt at trolling or a crowd funding exercise.

Eitherway if im wrong he was offered honest and good advice by posters and if not i suppose people do waste there entire wages of frivolous gifts

Mean Laqueefa · 14-10-2019 4:26pm

Also who pays for the psychiatrists ? like one in St, John of Gods in Stillorgan, Cluain Mhuire in Blackrock, liasion psychiatrists in Beaumont hospital and now currently one with the HSE in Drogheda

mr_fegelien · 14-10-2019 4:29pm

Deleted User wrote: »

This is crazy OP. Are you being truthful?

Well I'm 21 so they trusted me to the house.

mr_fegelien · 14-10-2019 4:30pm

Mean Laqueefa wrote: »

Also who pays for the psychiatrists ? like one in St, John of Gods in Stillorgan, Cluain Mhuire in Blackrock, liasion psychiatrists in Beaumont hospital and now currently one with the HSE in Drogheda

No one. They're free...

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 14-10-2019 4:31pm

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Well I'm 21 so they trusted me to the house.

But didn't ensure you had sufficient meds when they left you alone for a month?

Sorry, something isn't ringing true.

14-10-2019 4:35pm

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Well I'm 21 so they trusted me to the house.

Why didn't your parents ensure you have enough meds and money?

mr_fegelien · 14-10-2019 4:41pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Why didn't your parents ensure you have enough meds and money?

They don't trust me with money. To be honest, the only reason they didn't fill it in was because I forgot to tell them of my upcoming appointment before they left.

They fill my Leap Card, and buy food but don't give any cash. Don't trust me with it.

14-10-2019 4:52pm

mr_fegelien wrote: »

They don't trust me with money. To be honest, the only reason they didn't fill it in was because I forgot to tell them of my upcoming appointment before they left.

They fill my Leap Card, and buy food but don't give any cash. Don't trust me with it.

Ok going purely by the information you gave Mr F, your parents are very irresponsible. They feel that they can't give you money but yet are able to leave you alone for a month? If I were you I would contact St Vincent DePaul and also jigsaw.ie

Odyssey 2005 · 14-10-2019 5:04pm

You allegedly have all this going on yet you start threads about teachers and students riding ?. I smell Bullshíť

endacl · 14-10-2019 6:10pm

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Why?

Because:

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

You allegedly have all this going on yet you start threads about teachers and students riding ?. I smell Bullshíť

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 14-10-2019 6:29pm

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

You allegedly have all this going on yet you start threads about teachers and students riding ?.

What's the criteria for having a mental illness, not posting certain topics on boards? What utter crap.

I knew one person with BPD, very nice girl. It wasn't easy for her at all

As for all the professional on here saying that you either have it or you don't, that's pretty true, but there are varying levels of BPD, just with any mental illness. Nobody on here is qualified to tell you what you do and do not have so don't listen to them.

Do, however, seek help. Even if it's just a phone call. You might want to cope on your own but it may become worse for you.

cursai · 14-10-2019 6:42pm

The One Doctor wrote: »

Nope, it's not compulsory to stay in relationships with people with a mental illness. Better running off sooner than later, and this is experience talking.

Interestingly, many severe mental illnesses disappear for a while after dialysis, suggesting that they are physical in origin.[/QUOTE]

Wtf?

Paddy Cow · 14-10-2019 7:18pm

Cullen Crooked Standby wrote: »

What's the criteria for having a mental illness, not posting certain topics on boards? What utter crap.

I knew one person with BPD, very nice girl. It wasn't easy for her at all

As for all the professional on here saying that you either have it or you don't, that's pretty true, but there are varying levels of BPD, just with any mental illness. Nobody on here is qualified to tell you what you do and do not have so don't listen to them.

Do, however, seek help. Even if it's just a phone call. You might want to cope on your own but it may become worse for you.

Nobody is diagnosing the op but repeating what his psychiatrist told him about five years ago when he went through a period where his symptoms mirrored bipolar. His psychiatrist didn't give a bipolar diagnosis and that's what people are going off.

The op is still under care but worryingly has been left on his own for a month without access to his medication. This is worrying for two reasons. 1 Not having his medication isn't going to help him and 2 coming off medication cold turkey can result in serious withdrawal symptoms. Op may have forgotton to tell his parents about his refill but they really should be paying closer attention to his medical needs.

littlemisshobo · 15-10-2019 10:53am

Mental Health week clearly had a good outcome with so many understanding and empathetic posts here ðŸ™„

****ing hell. Bipolar has a list of common symptoms but that doesn't mean everyone experiences those symptoms in every episode. Also some people are just not nice whether they've a mental health condition or not. Judging all of us with bipolar by actions of the odd person you know or heard of is a disgrace.

Manic episode could include excessive spending but may not. We arent all violent. Naraccism is not bipolar, it is Naraccism.

I often wonder if people judge me because I'm Bipolar. And I think a lot do. Like comments here - clearly lacking insight but quick to judge. Despite me being stable since diagnosis - I see the look people have when they hear bipolar. We need better education around the range of mental illnesses.

I'm sure the biggest dickhead comments have some ****e on Facebook about its OK to not be OK and my door is always open.

To OP, don't go drugs. Really increases risk of episodes and mania actually damages your brain.

To others with bipolar, stay on your medication. Keep linked in with services. Know your red flags and talk to trusted family and friends about them.

littlemisshobo · 15-10-2019 11:01am

mr_fegelien wrote: »

Yes, I was prescribed 8mg of the antipsychotic, risperidone and 20mg of the antidepressant, trintellix. Run out of them though and no job to refill them. I got the prescription but have no cash at all so ****ed.

That's why my posts may be all over the place.

You should go back to psychiatrist. Antidepressants are dangerous with bipolar as they have very high risk of triggering mania.

**edit: don't come off any meds without psychiatric supervision. Withdrawal with trigger an episode. Call your psychiatrist and explain situation, get appointment ASAP. Pharmacy can provide emergency supply of medication and your psychiatrist can fax prescription to them. Erratic posting could very well be red flag for mania.***

MrAbyss · 15-10-2019 11:12am

All the Extinction Rebellion/SJW/Woke types you saw dancing the other day, will be currently in the corner of their room with the lights off and sobbing hysterically. I never met one single 'activist' type who was not bi-polar. Their need to control everyone else is born out of not being able to get their own lives together.

This is why we should not indulge these types.

littlemisshobo · 15-10-2019 11:14am

MrAbyss wrote: »

All the Extinction Rebellion/SJW/Woke types you saw dancing the other day, will be currently in the corner of their room with the lights off and sobbing hysterically. I never met one single 'activist' type who was not bi-polar. Their need to control everyone else is born out of not being able to get their own lives together.

This is why we should not indulge these types.

Well isn't you ignorance mighty?! What a ridiculous comment.

It's a genuine and serious mental health condition and it's shameful that people lack understanding about the condition.

MrAbyss · 15-10-2019 11:18am

theguzman wrote: »

I dated a woman with it, she had severe narcissism where she thought she was much more beautiful than she really was, her sense of self importance was shocking, she did things to extremes and could be described as a sex addict. When things would go bad for her it was absolutely shocking to witness, I got out of dodge fairly quickly on that one, it was fun whilst she was on her high but when she went low it was time to run for the hills and never look back.

This sounds more like Borderline Personality Disorder. These women are EXTREMELY dangerous and are responsible for the majority of false rape and sexual assault accusations when the man they are obsessed with stops believing they are a 'goddess'. Even male psyche-doctors won't treat them as they will be all over social media making up lies that he assaulted her.

MrAbyss · 15-10-2019 11:20am

Aceandstuff wrote: »

I only know one person with confirmed/diagnosed bipolar disorder. Let's call her "A". I ended up sharing a house with her and another woman, who I'm going to call "M", and didn't find out about her condition until after I left. Things seemed alright in the house for the first month or so, until she started getting jealous that her dog wanted to play with M, complaining about me going to the bathroom at night, banning us from the sitting room, and basically behaving like a spoiled child. Then came the paranoia and accusations.

I got the third degree from her one afternoon after figuring out how to use the different functions of the oven. Excuuuuuse me for being one of those "engineering types". Another time she asked me to guess how many times she had bought something in the last month, and shock, horror! I made an educated guess and got it right. She refused to believe I wasn't spying on her and absolutely lost the plot. She also refused to believe I wasn't running up the electricity bill with a space heater, despite seeing the inside of my room regularly and letting herself in with a spare key when I wasn't around. Any innocent conversation could suddenly turn into a ridiculous argument about my character, or how I had it in for her in some way.

After a few more incidents, and a massive electricity bill I hadn't run up, I had to leave. M left after waking up on a Saturday morning with A looking over her, twice. To "make sure she wasn't dead". M found out later from A's mother that she was bipolar and had gone off of her medications in the few months we were all living together. Neither of us had any idea about that when it was going on, but A's behaviour was just getting worse all the time.

Nobody was discriminating against her because of her condition, we couldn't be biased against her because of it if we didn't know about it. The problems only started when she stopped her medication, and that was her own fault. She had been stable before that. I understand that bipolar disorder would have affected how she treated the people around her, but she made a decision, and then continued not to think critically about what she was doing.

once again this is Borderline Personality Disorder and not Bi-Polar. Two very different conditions. Bi-Polar the person is a danger to themselves. With BPD the person is a danger to everyone else.

MrAbyss · 15-10-2019 11:30am

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

I remember googling this before, and found a really good article on the genetics of bipolar, and how it's far more genetic than most psychiatric illnesses/disorders. RIght now I can't find the link where I read it. But this article implies that it's 40 - 70% genetic, and the rest must be developmental (?), since if your identical twin has bipolar, the chances you'll also suffer from it is within the above range.

https://www.webmd.com/bipolar-disorder/guide/bipolar-disorder-whos-at-risk

These studies are often contradictory and pushed by the likes of the AMA in tandem with Big Pharma companies so as to sell medications that cure nothing and never will. The anecdotal (and most honest scientific) evidence is that metal health is not passed on in the genes. There was only one Ted Bundy in the Bundy family. Yes, there can be behavioral issues brought about by inbreeding over a number of generations. This does seem to affect neural plasticity and epigentics. But only severe inbreeding creates this.

However there is a lot of evidence that something goes horribly wrong in early childhood which sends an infant into a kind of shock to their psyche creating a dissociation they never recover from. It does not even have to be bad parents. Just something like the mother dying her hair a new colour and the baby thinks its natural mother has left them.

MrAbyss · 15-10-2019 11:32am

littlemisshobo wrote: »

Well isn't you ignorance mighty?! What a ridiculous comment.

It's a genuine and serious mental health condition and it's shameful that people lack understanding about the condition.

that's not what I am doing.

littlemisshobo · 15-10-2019 11:33am

MrAbyss wrote: »

This sounds more like Borderline Personality Disorder. These women are EXTREMELY dangerous and are responsible for the majority of false rape and sexual assault accusations when the man they are obsessed with stops believing they are a 'goddess'. Even male psyche-doctors won't treat them as they will be all over social media making up lies that he assaulted her.

Citation please?

littlemisshobo · 15-10-2019 11:36am

MrAbyss wrote: »

that's not what I am doing.

"I never met one single 'activist' type who was not bi-polar. Their need to control everyone else is born out of not being able to get their own lives together."

This is completely ignorant. Bipolar doesn't create a need to control everyone else or an inability to get your own life together.

MrAbyss · 15-10-2019 11:48am

littlemisshobo wrote: »

Citation please?

I made this all up. BPD does not exist and you are a really special person.

MrAbyss · 15-10-2019 11:50am

littlemisshobo wrote: »

"I never met one single 'activist' type who was not bi-polar. Their need to control everyone else is born out of not being able to get their own lives together."

This is completely ignorant. Bipolar doesn't create a need to control everyone else or an inability to get your own life together.

That is not their motivation. It is almost a cry for help. They are desperate to ground themselves into something stable and rigid among people like themselves. A need to feel somehow alive and vital rather than useless inside. It's their politics/activism that's fake, not the medical condition.

Look at all the body dysmorphia on display at your typical Extinction Rebellion marches for example. It is self-hatred weaponised as 'activism'.

15-10-2019 11:52am

I know/have known several people (diagnosed by a psychiatrist) with BPD, all very different personalities. A very challenging condition to live with.

There were a few people at work, very nice to work with. I had two neighbours with it. One was a lovely gentle lady, died in old age and greatly missed by her adult children. Her mother had the condition too. The other lady suffered from alcoholism and seizures too; she had a fine powerful voice and when afflicted would open the top window and broadcast her woes. Everyone knew to accept this, but it could be upsetting listening to her troubles, and once or twice when folk thought she might be a danger to herself, would call the guards. They knew her well, and were able to calm her down and try and ensure she had taken her medication etc.

Two people connected to the wider family have had it. One, a lovely conscientious and gentle man always had the greatest of praise for St Ita’s, and between episodes asked to be sectioned any time he might become a “nuisance” or danger to himself. Sadly he later died of a neurological condition which may possibly have underlain his illness. Another lady does not accept that she has any such condition, and her family are constantly worried. It seems she may have a personality disorder in addition to the BDP, which complicates it.

Psychiatry is just about stepping on the first rung of the ladder in catching up with general new medical discoveries, where autoimmune type disorders may underlie some psychiatric conditions. Society will benefit do much when more is learned, and particularly effective treatments can be offered.

Know anyone with bipolar?

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