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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,484 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Daroxtar wrote: »
    PM arrived, no customs charges. Happy days
    How was it labelled? Was it listed as "Return and Repair" incoming too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 898 ✭✭✭gn3dr


    fat bloke wrote: »
    That's fair enough. You like what you like. I was a firm fan of SPD-SL's too but then I got the PM as a pressie and had to switch to Look. If I were to claim that I noticed even the tiniest of infinitesimal differences between the two, I would be lying :).

    I presume you know that the new Garmin Rally is available for SPD SL and are still discounting on price. But if it is as it appears to be - basically a properly and finally (!) totally sorted Vector 3 system, then it should be really good.

    Also, as a powermeter user for a long time now - I would not pay the premium for dual sided. Single is perfect. All you need is a number and for that number to have some element of consistency.
    Good to get the feedback on the Look Vs SPD-SL. It's one of the things that is making me hesitate about buying the Favero pedals. I was waiting to see when the Garmin's came out in SPD sl form. But now that they have come out the price is just stupid. Where are they discounting price as you mention above?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,981 ✭✭✭Diarmuid


    If you are not planning on training with power, then there's no point having a power meter. However if you are considering it, then you'll get a lot more out of the €280 spent on the powermeter than the €1100 on the disc wheel. Way more, in fact..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,932 ✭✭✭fat bloke


    gn3dr wrote: »
    Good to get the feedback on the Look Vs SPD-SL. It's one of the things that is making me hesitate about buying the Favero pedals. I was waiting to see when the Garmin's came out in SPD sl form. But now that they have come out the price is just stupid. Where are they discounting price as you mention above?

    Sorry, that was an unfortunate choice of words. I meant that the OP had discounted/eliminated the idea of buying the Garmin pedal, based on price.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,172 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    I cracked and bought both, 4iiii single sided 165mm Ultegra, from Cigala cycling, cheaper than everywhere else and in stock, delivered in 3 days. Training starts Monday.
    Wheels from HUNT will be end of July: https://eu.huntbikewheels.com/collections/road-cx-disc-brake-wheels/products/hunt-30carbon-aero-disc-road-wheelset-1319g-30deep-27wide-999?variant=31723747803191


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,932 ✭✭✭fat bloke


    Wahey!!! Good call. Nice one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,827 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    Seems like you’ve been getting a few eye openers racing hence the power meter!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,484 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    More Shimano pedals on the way...
    https://cyclingtips.com/2021/06/confirmed-shimano-compatible-favero-assioma-power-meter-pedals-are-on-the-way/
    Macy0161 wrote: »
    How was it labelled? Was it listed as "Return and Repair" incoming too?
    Any update on this Daroxtar - was the incoming from 4iii labelled return and repair or was it customs lottery?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,172 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    CramCycle wrote: »
    I cracked and bought both, 4iiii single sided 165mm Ultegra, from Cigala cycling,
    Macy0161 wrote: »
    More Shimano pedals on the way...?

    F*ck off Favero, I waited and waited and waited, you had your chance with me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,484 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    I'm still interested as to whether they'll be SPD compatible. I have the spare ultegra crank I could send to 4iiii to cover all my regular use bikes, but it would probably be in the running just for ease of transfer on to any bike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭JimmiesRustled


    CramCycle wrote: »
    F*ck off Favero, I waited and waited and waited, you had your chance with me.

    Welcome to the club. I'm still waiting on the promise of a Speedplay compatible power meter. :D Had really high hopes for Brim Brothers being an Irish company. Wahoo announced that with their acquisition of speedplay, they'd be releasing a power meter this "Summer". Here's to hoping.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,353 ✭✭✭Daroxtar


    Macy0161 wrote: »
    More Shimano pedals on the way...
    https://cyclingtips.com/2021/06/confirmed-shimano-compatible-favero-assioma-power-meter-pedals-are-on-the-way/


    Any update on this Daroxtar - was the incoming from 4iii labelled return and repair or was it customs lottery?

    Well funny that you mention it..... The package arrived with no paperwork other than the address label. I got an email from FedEx on Friday to tell me I owe them €80 for the luxury of them paying customs for me. It's an estimated bill including €15 fees for them so I told them to send me the detailed breakdown including invoice from customs.
    A bill is a bill so I'll pay and it's still a cheap powermeter, but I'm going to contest their fees as I never agreed with them or authorized them to pay customs on my behalf


  • Site Banned Posts: 20,686 ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    Daroxtar wrote: »
    Well funny that you mention it..... The package arrived with no paperwork other than the address label. I got an email from FedEx on Friday to tell me I owe them €80 for the luxury of them paying customs for me. It's an estimated bill including €15 fees for them so I told them to send me the detailed breakdown including invoice from customs.
    A bill is a bill so I'll pay and it's still a cheap powermeter, but I'm going to contest their fees as I never agreed with them or authorized them to pay customs on my behalf

    FedEx try this. I told them to go f*CK themselves essentially but in more diplomatic terms. No issues paying the duty but they were to inform me of any charges before I'd accept delivery.

    There's a Reddit thread about it with a nice template letter to send to them.

    No other courier does it that way that I know of. I'm always told upfront what their fee is and FedEx pluck figures seemingly out of nowhere


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,172 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Be cautious, Fed Ex have never released without payment to anyone I know in the past and I got a fake email from someone purporting to be them with enough info including invoice number only a week ago.


  • Site Banned Posts: 20,686 ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    CramCycle wrote: »
    Be cautious, Fed Ex have never released without payment to anyone I know in the past and I got a fake email from someone purporting to be them with enough info including invoice number only a week ago.

    FedEx deliver the item and then bill a few weeks later these days. It's a lousy practice. The other way is at least upfront


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,172 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Weepsie wrote: »
    FedEx deliver the item and then bill a few weeks later these days. It's a lousy practice. The other way is at least upfront

    LOL, I presumed it was a sketch email so reported as spam/phishing. I am happy to pay customs but I ain't clicking on a site that looks dodgy even if Reddit say it is legit. Fed Ex never done it before to me so I had to assume it was BS.

    I think mine is about €22.15 owed in VAT, and they went looking for about €35. Happy to pay the €22.15. I reported it as spam or phishing and heard nothing back from Google, so if ye hadn't mentioned it I never would have thought about it again.

    I'll call them tomorrow morning and if legit I'll pay the VAT if a detailed invoice is provided, or I will calculate it myself and send it to revenue and send them a confirmation letter that VAT is paid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,830 ✭✭✭doozerie


    Macy0161 wrote: »
    I'm still interested as to whether they'll be SPD compatible. I have the spare ultegra crank I could send to 4iiii to cover all my regular use bikes, but it would probably be in the running just for ease of transfer on to any bike.

    The Assioma pedals can be converted to SPD -based power meters by swapping the body. It's a hack, and requires a specific SPD pedal body to swap with, but people seem to have done it successfully.

    If the SPDs are for an off-road bike though then you obviously have to contend with the risk of trashing your power meter with an unlucky pedal strike. Just one reason why crankset spider -based power meters are more popular for off-road riding as their location automatically gives them some extra protection.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,172 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Daroxtar wrote: »
    Well funny that you mention it..... The package arrived with no paperwork other than the address label. I got an email from FedEx on Friday to tell me I owe them €80 for the luxury of them paying customs for me. It's an estimated bill including €15 fees for them so I told them to send me the detailed breakdown including invoice from customs.
    A bill is a bill so I'll pay and it's still a cheap powermeter, but I'm going to contest their fees as I never agreed with them or authorized them to pay customs on my behalf

    Could you argue the toss since it was a return and repair on the out going label, could you send that to them and tell them to go swing, or pay 2.30euro in VAT although to be petty, it might be considered a service and only be 1.35euro. Just to be petty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,484 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    doozerie wrote: »
    The Assioma pedals can be converted to SPD -based power meters by swapping the body. It's a hack, and requires a specific SPD pedal body to swap with, but people seem to have done it successfully.
    I'm well aware, and have considered it. But it's too much money for me to void the warranty. These are potentially interesting as if they're coming without the pedal body, there's a some cross compatibility from road shimano and spd (and flat). Not your cheapest spd pedals but some.

    I think I'm over thinking it though - I have a 4iiii on my gravel bike now, so really SPD-SL would really cover the requirements. If I even need another power meter*.

    *I'm with TrainerRoad for the long haul, and with adaptive training already in closed beta, it feels more important to have as many spins with power as possible to make full use!


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