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General Arcade & Retro Chat' Special Championship Edition

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,845 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Go back to phantasy star 4 and panzer dragoon saga you Sega fanboy!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,790 ✭✭✭Jack burton


    OMG did you just assume my console preference!?

    #triggered #metoo


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,845 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    So found out something interesting the last few days.

    The internet rumours about how Sega bolted a second cpu at the last minute on the Saturn always annoyed me. It's totally false and Sega had experience working with multiple cpu arcade systems for years. The Saturn was designed that way.

    However I always never understood why Sega went for quads instead of triangles with the Saturn. Triangles were a standard on pc and most of the industry.

    I thought maybe the 3DO which used quads would have been the inspiration.

    Well turns out the Sega Model 1 and 2 arcade boards are also quad based. So again Sega was working off its arcade experience. The most advanced consumer system at the time, the model 2, was a quad based system.

    Not only that but the model 3 board is quad based as well which is why emulating these systems has been a pain.

    Another side note is apparently the DS is another quad based system but hard to find confirmation of this.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,633 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Damn.
    I think my Vextrex is dead :(
    Tried to turn it on just now and nothing.
    I'll have to check the fuse.

    Edit: nope, not the fuse.
    Sh1t. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,725 ✭✭✭The Last Bandit


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Damn.
    I think my Vextrex is dead :(
    Tried to turn it on just now and nothing.
    I'll have to check the fuse.

    Edit: nope, not the fuse.
    Sh1t. :(

    Turn it on and listen carefully for any sound ? Stone dead is often an easier fix, power supply usually.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,725 ✭✭✭The Last Bandit


    Super Smash Bros. - I really don't get it, at all.

    Have tried out a few version included the new Switch version and its all just meh, wtf, jumpy about stuff. Maybe it loses a lot in solo play or whatever but nope not for me.

    So, what other awesomely brilliant games the world raves about do you find are a bit, well, sh1te ? (Inspired by the Earthbound sucks post, which I agree with)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,633 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Turn it on and listen carefully for any sound ? Stone dead is often an easier fix, power supply usually.

    Not a peep :(

    Something to sort in the New Year, I was only trying my new multicart out!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,845 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Super Smash Bros. - I really don't get it, at all.

    Have tried out a few version included the new Switch version and its all just meh, wtf, jumpy about stuff. Maybe it loses a lot in solo play or whatever but nope not for me.

    So, what other awesomely brilliant games the world raves about do you find are a bit, well, sh1te ? (Inspired by the Earthbound sucks post, which I agree with)

    If you're not playing multiplayer then all you've got is the nostalgia for Nintendo trivia. They do their best to make single player good but it's shoe horning in into a game that is purely multiplayer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,259 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I'd worry about a persons mental well being if they thought Earthbound wasn't any good :eek:

    Mario Kart is the main series I really am not a fan of at all which people tend to think I'm insane every time I mention.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,390 Mod ✭✭✭✭Optimus Prime


    I loved the original Mario Kart on the SNES, played it to death. But the Purple? turtle they introduced in later games that goes after the person in 1st place really annoyed me. The original Mario Kart required a bit of skill and when you where playing people on the same level it was a great laugh.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 225 ✭✭frasr


    I'd put Worms into the same, single player meh but with multi player passing the PS1 controller around the room...vengeance is always served, may take days,weeks to come round, but it's always served....


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,845 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    o1s1n wrote: »
    I'd worry about a persons mental well being if they thought Earthbound wasn't any good :eek:

    Mario Kart is the main series I really am not a fan of at all which people tend to think I'm insane every time I mention.

    Earthbound takes a while to get going and it's not immediately apparent how good the game is until a few hours in.

    Doesn't help that the first few bosses are very tricky which puts people off.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,633 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    frasr wrote: »
    I'd put Worms into the same, single player meh but with multi player passing the PS1 controller around the room...vengeance is always served, may take days,weeks to come round, but it's always served....

    I used to play that with a mate on Night Duty, the first one when it was ported to the Playstation, great fun still with it's roots in the Amiga.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,289 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    You know what I like about arcade and retro? The banter. It's all good fun. We all have the same interest in retro gaming but also very different tastes. I'm not much of a Nintendo fan for example and I didn't get chewed out for suggesting Alien Trilogy was a good game, despite everyone else preferring Alien Resurrection.

    Some forums can be quite toxic (*cough*motors*cough*) and talking negative about the equivalent of Earthbound or Smash Bros would result in a 5 page thread saying why you're wrong!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,845 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    DaveyDave wrote: »
    I didn't get chewed out for suggesting Alien Trilogy was a good game

    I must have missed that some where. That game is ****e in a bucket.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,059 ✭✭✭Doge


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Damn.
    I think my Vextrex is dead :(
    Tried to turn it on just now and nothing.
    I'll have to check the fuse.

    Edit: nope, not the fuse.
    Sh1t. :(

    Try leaving it on for a good few minutes and see if it comes on.

    Mine takes a while to turn on due the capacitor in the power supply.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,259 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Ah no thats awful about your veccy, I hope you can get it sorted. It's the machine that spawned the bizarre Irish veccy crazy half a decade ago.

    If you lads had been given a surprise one for all voucher from work and didn't own a PS4 or a switch, which would you spend it on?

    I'm edging towards switch at the moment but not 100% sure as I haven't really played any PlayStation exclusives since the PS2.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,756 ✭✭✭Inviere


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Ah no thats awful about your veccy, I hope you can get it sorted. It's the machine that spawned the bizarre Irish veccy crazy half a decade ago.

    If you lads had been given a surprise one for all voucher from work and didn't own a PS4 or a switch, which would you spend it on?

    I'm edging towards switch at the moment but not 100% sure as I haven't really played any PlayStation exclusives since the PS2.

    Switch hands down, be nice if you could get one of the exploitable ones. I think the ones retailing now are patched though? There's very little on PS4 that'd warrant a purchase for me anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,183 ✭✭✭✭Atavan-Halen


    I’d go with a switch too. You can pick up a secondhand PS4 on the cheap nowadays anyway. It does have a few decent exclusives but nothing that won’t still be available in a couple of years time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,725 ✭✭✭The Last Bandit


    Switch definitely. Although all the new ones are currently unhackable, so the obvious solution is a new PS4 and secondhand Switch :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,790 ✭✭✭Jack burton


    Is the switch that good?

    I would have said PS4, since that's what I'm on at the moment. Worth it alone for Bloodborne imo


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,845 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I'd go with a Switch. Just a lovely machine to use and the exclusives so far have been stellar.

    The PS4 is a glorified way to play games already on the PC.

    The PS4 has Bloodborne and that's about it. GoW didn't blow me away. Persona 5 is on PS3 and will almost definitely come to switch. And Deception 4 is on Vita already.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,729 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I love the Switch, and it’s worth getting for the first party titles alone alongside it having become a little indie powerhouse.

    That said, I find the suggestions that there’s nothing or little worth playing on PS4 baffling. Bloodborne is one of the greatest games ever made. Astrobot Rescue Mission was one of the big surprises of the year and for my money VR’s killer app - it’s Nintendo-level good, and I don’t say that lightly. You have Tetris Effect which is a gem either with a headset or without, and The Last Guardian which I adore unconditionally (*awaits Retr0 complaining about frame-rate). Resogun is one of the all-time great launch titles. Hell, I may not be the biggest fan of stuff like God of War or Spider-Man but they’re undoubtedly a cut above the typical AAA pack as well. There’s things like Tearaway Unfolded too, or the Yakuza series (which has only semi made it to PC). Frankly, it’s the same amount of ‘good to masterpiece’ exclusives I’d expect from any modern console.

    Basically, I don’t think you can go wrong either way - I mean, they’re individually basically worth it for Breath of the Wild and Bloodborne alone. I just feel the suggestion that the PS4 is worthless or a mere multi-platform machine far removed from my experiences - it’s all personal taste at the end of the day, but you’d have to be really fussy to not find a couple of masterpieces in there :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,790 ✭✭✭Jack burton


    I just need to go into a time compression zone and spend a few years playing through all the games Ive missed this generation.

    Either that or just bring all my games to the old folks home when I eventually won't have to do anything else but sit around all day :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭Nerdkiller1991


    So, I've managed to snag myself a PS TV...HELP!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,725 ✭✭✭The Last Bandit


    Is the switch that good?

    I would have said PS4, since that's what I'm on at the moment. Worth it alone for Bloodborne imo

    A modded Switch is. Its definitely my go to now for emulation, form-factor is just so convenient.

    AAA titles are still best played on a grown up console though like PS4 or XBox


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,845 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I still think last guardian is miserable on a base PS4. Borderline unplayable.

    Tetris effect will be coming to everything.

    Just looking at worthwhile PS4 exclusives and there's just not enough there to make me bother turning the machine on.

    Bloodborne is worth the price of admission though even though I wish it was on PC as it has bad performance issues and online is literally unplayable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,289 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    If you don't have an Xbox One a PS4 is definitely worth a look. I highly recommend a Pro for the extra money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,790 ✭✭✭Jack burton


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    I still think last guardian is miserable on a base PS4. Borderline unplayable.

    Tetris effect will be coming to everything.

    Just looking at worthwhile PS4 exclusives and there's just not enough there to make me bother turning the machine on.

    Bloodborne is worth the price of admission though even though I wish it was on PC as it has bad performance issues and online is literally unplayable.

    Git gud


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,633 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    I still think last guardian is miserable on a base PS4. Borderline unplayable.

    Tetris effect will be coming to everything.

    Just looking at worthwhile PS4 exclusives and there's just not enough there to make me bother turning the machine on.

    Bloodborne is worth the price of admission though even though I wish it was on PC as it has bad performance issues and online is literally unplayable.

    I must pick up a PS4 Pro so!

    I loved The Last Guardian, and I'd be happy to run through it again, any excuse.

    While SotC made it to the PS4 it's a pity Ico hasn't had the same treatment.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,845 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    I must pick up a PS4 Pro so!

    I loved The Last Guardian, and I'd be happy to run through it again, any excuse.

    I'd like to give the game another try but I'm waiting for whenever I get a pro as well. It's a big improvement over the jank of the original release.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,633 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    I'd like to give the game another try but I'm waiting for whenever I get a pro as well. It's a big improvement over the jank of the original release.

    No, the game was still sublime.

    No more disappointing than the frame rate in SotC on the PS2, it wasn't perfect but the game remained incredible.

    So, I really enjoyed The Last Guardian, and the Pro version will only make it even better.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,845 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I couldn't look past the flaws. The movement was all physics based which added a lot of jank which was exasperated by the poor controls. I just found it annoying to control the game.

    As for the cat monster. He did too many dumb things that frustrated me. It might be realistic that an animal won't listen to you but it's just annoying in a game when the main mechanic is unreliable. And while I didn't get far I found every puzzle was a variant of use cat thing as a step ladder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,019 ✭✭✭Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    While SotC made it to the PS4 it's a pity Ico hasn't had the same treatment.

    Was SOTC and Ico not in a HD bundle?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,725 ✭✭✭The Last Bandit


    Was SOTC and Ico not in a HD bundle?

    They were released on PS3 as a bundle but not PS4.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,633 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Ico was perfect on the PS3, but I'd say it would still be great on the PS4.

    And, The Last Guardian was not without it's flaws but it was still magnificent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭um7y1h83ge06nx


    Need advice from the experts. Been watching Kim Justices GTA videos and want to give San Andreas a go again.

    What's the best platform to play it on now? I have PS2, 360, Xbox One, PS4, Vita and PC but would prefer console or handheld.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 51,845 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Need advice from the experts. Been watching Kim Justices GTA videos and want to give San Andreas a go again.

    What's the best platform to play it on now? I have PS2, 360, Xbox One, PS4, Vita and PC but would prefer console or handheld.

    Digital foundry retro did a video covering all versions. Looks like all the later versions are based on the iOS version which removed a lot if the atmospheric effects.

    Avoid PAL versions of the ps2 game as they are garbage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,019 ✭✭✭Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Ico was perfect on the PS3, but I'd say it would still be great on the PS4.

    And, The Last Guardian was not without it's flaws but it was still magnificent.
    I never finished Ico, I'd love to give it a go again, so gorgeous. It's a pity it didn't get to PS4 as well. I still find it weird there's not more crossover more with PS3 and 4 games like Deadly Premonition


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,019 ✭✭✭Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy


    Sega's facebook has an interview with Yuzo up atm

    https://www.facebook.com/SEGA/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,259 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    I never finished Ico, I'd love to give it a go again, so gorgeous. It's a pity it didn't get to PS4 as well. I still find it weird there's not more crossover more with PS3 and 4 games like Deadly Premonition

    Definitely stick it out! I remember when I first got it, I think I gave up after 1-2 hours. Didn't come back to do a proper run through till a few years later. It really is a brilliant game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,019 ✭✭✭Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Definitely stick it out! I remember when I first got it, I think I gave up after 1-2 hours. Didn't come back to do a proper run through till a few years later. It really is a brilliant game.
    I loved it of what I played, I think Persona 5 or something came and that was over lol. I will eventually get back to it and Deadly Premonition.
    I was playing Mania Plus and Persona Dancing before I'd my wisdom teeth out, just tv now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,242 ✭✭✭MrVestek


    Heads up.

    Someone here should grab this ex display model for half price before it's gone.

    That's a 1up Arcade Street Fighter for half price.

    468665.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,019 ✭✭✭Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy


    Found it on YouTube, much easier to watch than Facebook so sharing again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,557 ✭✭✭✭Skerries


    I found this flash based version of the 1992 Amiga game Dune but with loads of porn in it :D

    http://davidgoujard.com/btd.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,019 ✭✭✭Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy


    Hope everyone has a lovely day or just that you get through if you're having a tough time
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,019 ✭✭✭Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,059 ✭✭✭Doge


    So went to Malaga Spain for a cheeky pre Christmas holiday and when we were on the way home we were presented with this in Malaga airport.....


    468931.jpg

    468932.jpg


    Reminded me of the Red Neo Geo cabs.
    Pretty beautiful looking cab and could almost be excused for displaying in the wrong aspect ratio, because it even had dark scanlines in game which looked like real scanlines going across the screen, stuck on.

    All we had to give in return was out data by downloading the app and scanning a QR code on our phone and scanning it with the scanner built into the cab. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,070 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    The new episode of Black Mirror is called Bandersnatch, that made me chuckle. Charlie Brooker is a Spectrum nerd too!

    For those who don't know, (probably no one on this forum, but still) it was a game Imagine were hyping for the Spectrum that was never made/never finished before they went bust. They had another title, Psyclapse supposedly in the offing for the C64 too.

    XKeIk7W.jpg

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 3,184 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dr Bob


    The new episode of Black Mirror is called Bandersnatch, that made me chuckle. Charlie Brooker is a Spectrum nerd too!

    For those who don't know, (probably no one on this forum, but still) it was a game Imagine were hyping for the Spectrum that was never made/never finished before they went bust. They had another title, Psyclapse supposedly in the offing for the C64 too.

    XKeIk7W.jpg


    https://tuckersoft.net/ealing20541/


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