Are dogs being stolen in your area?

Lewis_Benson · 03-08-2020 11:40pm

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Over the past few weeks I have seen a lot of stuff on social media about dogs been stolen social media.
Mainly people are posting pictures of every car that stops near their has and says they are out to steel dogs.
I have read that the Gardai found dogs, given them back to people but dogs are sometimes stolen I will admit that or has it become very wide spread over the past few weeks?
The main thing that makes me a bit skeptical of it becoming wide spread in the past few weeks is those who are sharing it on social media, taking peoples pictures and sharing it online are always a bit hyper about things.(The main in the van is kidnapping all the children).

Are dogs been stolen in your area?

Yes, dogs have been stolen, and are being stolen.

buried · 03-08-2020 11:41pm

anewme wrote: »

30th June Bree, elderly Beagle stolen from Clonfert, still missing, owners heartbroken.
30th July elderly dog stolen from New Inn area, still missing
9th July Cookie, tiny Yorkshire terrier taken from driveway in a silver car by a child who called over dog. Dog owner saw vehicle, suspects identified, Gardai slow to act as they had moved in.
3rd July Scooby and Dora stolen from their homes in Ballinasloe. Not returned.

That's the tip of it, the obvious ones.

You dont want to see it as a problem though.

As you say, you've bigger problems. But many people see their dog as family member and are devastated by these crimes.

Where are you getting these reports from though, not saying it isn't true, I just want the link you are getting these from. And it is bad for them, no doubt, I've had cat's disappear from my house too, a good few of them were old and went off to die, maybe some just wandered off, maybe some were stolen or eaten, but at the end of that day, I have more pressing stuff to contend with like where my next paycheck will come from out here where actual real crime goes on, both criminally and economically.

deisedevil · 03-08-2020 11:56pm

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Cable ties on property near me this weekend. Brazen enough to do it during the day too.

Brazen and braindead. To get out of a car and throw a cable tie on a property to mark it when you have Google maps and eircodes is just mind boggling stupidity. These dog thieves aren't criminal masterminds anyways.

I think people are allowing themselves to believe this cable tie and house marking rubbish because it's the latest over dramatic shíte to hit Facebook.

Fakediamond · 04-08-2020 12:13am

buried wrote: »

Where are you getting these reports from though, not saying it isn't true, I just want the link you are getting these from. And it is bad for them, no doubt, I've had cat's disappear from my house too, a good few of them were old and went off to die, maybe some just wandered off, maybe some were stolen or eaten, but at the end of that day, I have more pressing stuff to contend with like where my next paycheck will come from out here where actual real crime goes on, both criminally and economically.

I’ve posted the link about the Wexford dog and the Garda press release. Here’s the Trim story:

https://www.thatsfarming.com/news/85-year-old-farmer-reunited-with-stolen-dog

I’m one of those people who would be tormented if my family member (dog) was stolen and would do just about anything to get her back. It’s the not knowing that destroys people, tormented as to the fate of their loyal, beloved family pet.

Fakediamond · 04-08-2020 12:16am

buried wrote: »

Where are you getting these reports from though, not saying it isn't true, I just want the link you are getting these from. And it is bad for them, no doubt, I've had cat's disappear from my house too, a good few of them were old and went off to die, maybe some just wandered off, maybe some were stolen or eaten, but at the end of that day, I have more pressing stuff to contend with like where my next paycheck will come from out here where actual real crime goes on, both criminally and economically.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/distraught-owner-two-stolen-dogs-22419233

Fakediamond · 04-08-2020 12:27am

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/gardai-reunite-stolen-dog-owner-22404229

un5byh7sqpd2x0 · 04-08-2020 12:30am

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Cable ties on property near me this weekend. Brazen enough to do it during the day too.

Cable ties would be invisible at night...

LETHAL LADY · 04-08-2020 12:46am

There seems to be a level of histeria when a dog goes missing for the night lately. I'd to collect my dog from the pound once when he escaped from our secure home for a bitch in heat. I've also heard that some dogs are being used as bait and having their mouths stitched?? I hope this ain't true.

anewme · 04-08-2020 1:22am

LETHAL LADY wrote: »

There seems to be a level of histeria when a dog goes missing for the night lately. I'd to collect my dog from the pound once when he escaped from our secure home for a bitch in heat. I've also heard that some dogs are being used as bait and having their mouths stitched?? I hope this ain't true.

Don’t know about mouths stitched.

Certainly having muzzles superglued to their faces to drop them barking.

This is believed to be a tactic to get them to UK by Ferry.

Daisy, the dog that had her microchip hacked out had a muzzle superglued to her face.

windy shepard henderson · 04-08-2020 1:36am

Muhammad Most Shipwreck wrote: »

Cable ties would be invisible at night...

Well there has been a sudden surge in cable ties placed outside gates of houses and farm yards in our area in the last number of weeks, ironicly enough where the home owner owns a dog

I imagine most of the dogs would be snatched in daylight, given the fact these brazen pricks are driving in around people's property in broad daylight

windy shepard henderson · 04-08-2020 1:37am

Muhammad Most Shipwreck wrote: »

Cable ties would be invisible at night...

Well there has been a sudden surge in cable ties placed outside gates of houses and farm yards in our area in the last number of weeks, ironicly enough where the home owner owns a dog

I imagine most of the dogs would be snatched in daylight, given the fact these brazen pricks are driving in around people's property in broad daylight

katiek102010 · 04-08-2020 2:31am

razorblunt wrote: »

What’s the likelihood of dogs ending up as bait? It sounds horrific and obviously does/can happen but is it a bit of a boogeyman story?

One of my dogs was siezed from his original breederby warden as a pup. The litter were specifically bred for bait. 3 of the litter survived

katiek102010 · 04-08-2020 2:40am

I will confirm to you right now, if that c**t that was whistling outside my house the other night comes back, I will use whatever force force is necessary to make sure my dogs are safe.

They are rescues who have been through hell before we got them and they are my family.

We have had a number of dogs stolen in the area, not run away or got lost, they were stolen.

If they turn up at my house, they won't be in a fit condition to call to anyone else.

katiek102010 · 04-08-2020 2:42am

buried wrote: »

No I'm actually not, until I see some sort of actual crime dognapping incidents right in my area where there are countless numbers of dogs running around all day every day, then I might start to believe this hype noise that this is some sort of major problem. My local area is laden with dogs running about, so these dastardly criminals mustn't be too bright or they would have scoped out this place eons ago. As I said, we got bigger, actual problems out here.

Most areas targeted are on the ferry run. Surprisingly few stolen this weekend with the Garda checkpoints increased

katiek102010 · 04-08-2020 2:49am

Daisy a springer spaniel was stolen from wexford. Her 7 pups were also stolen.
They sliced her neck open to taken her microchip and glued a muzzle onto her.

The videos posted by her owner of the night she got home and the poor thing crying and whimpering are heartbreaking

katiek102010 · 04-08-2020 2:52am

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

Well there has been a sudden surge in cable ties placed outside gates of houses and farm yards in our area in the last number of weeks, ironicly enough where the home owner owns a dog

I imagine most of the dogs would be snatched in daylight, given the fact these brazen pricks are driving in around people's property in broad daylight

Cable ties and elastic bands around here too. What they seem to be for is to signifying the amount of dogs in the property.

katiek102010 · 04-08-2020 3:02am

buried wrote: »

Bait for what though?

Dog fighting. Pups and small dogs are given to the fighting dogs as live bait to "blood" them. It's believed it makes them more vicious. They use cats and rabbits too.

Never ever advertise pets as free to a good home.

anewme · 04-08-2020 3:07am

Just heard now of a seven month old German shepherd pup stolen from her kennel yesterday in Wexford has been found deceased this evening.

Her family have just said thanks to everyone fior trying to get her home.

Details unclear but has died at the hands of the thieves......

kowloonkev · 04-08-2020 3:52am

The whole pet industry is sick. If you care about animals at all you wouldn't be putting your money into it.

dodderangler · 04-08-2020 6:42am

kowloonkev wrote: »

The whole pet industry is sick. If you care about animals at all you wouldn't be putting your money into it.

So what would you have people do?
I've got ferrets.

katiek102010 · 04-08-2020 8:07am

dodderangler wrote: »

So what would you have people do?
I've got ferrets.

Rescue not buy from breeders

Mad_maxx · 04-08-2020 8:11am

Once had a st Bernard poisoned by tinkers, still better than having a dog stolen by them

At least you can bury the dog yourself

04-08-2020 8:51am

kowloonkev wrote: »

The whole pet industry is sick. If you care about animals at all you wouldn't be putting your money into it.

My dog is 13 and is starting to show his age. My husband and I were chatting before about would we at some stage get another dog. We’ve agreed that if we do, we’ll apply to a shelter for one. I’m thinking that I would like to help out an older dog that needs a loving home rather than get a puppy.

I definitely won’t be buying a dog from done deal or any other ad like that again.

silver2020 · 04-08-2020 9:02am

Muhammad Most Shipwreck wrote: »

Cable ties would be invisible at night...

Be careful with sensible posts that use basic logic. The social media and tabloid readers won't like your common sense

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/colored-stickers-target-homes-dog-owners/

Richard Hillman · 04-08-2020 9:11am

There have been calls lately to make animal theft a more a severe crime than what it is now. Now it is just classed as property theft. A party of me thinks that government don't want to bring any law in because they would have to put financial resources into it.

corner of hells · 04-08-2020 9:27am

silver2020 wrote: »

Be careful with sensible posts that use basic logic. The social media and tabloid readers won't like your common sense

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/colored-stickers-target-homes-dog-owners/

I wrap my dog in tinfoil and put cable ties on my neighbours gates, seems to work, my dog hasn't been robbed.

ChikiChiki · 04-08-2020 10:03am

buried wrote: »

I have done it, and none of it is happening around me. One or two dogs going missing somewhere else isn't on my list of concerns. I've far bigger $hit to **** off and research

This is happening in the west of the country also. Not just the east of the country.

So what, its not your concern. Don't discredit the whole thing because you have far more important **** to do in your self imposed bubble of importance.

NIMAN · 04-08-2020 10:05am

To answer the original question, apparently the answer is no.

The guards locally say so, I think it was a social media invented story.

silver2020 · 04-08-2020 10:12am

Richard Hillman wrote: »

There have been calls lately to make animal theft a more a severe crime than what it is now. Now it is just classed as property theft. A party of me thinks that government don't want to bring any law in because they would have to put financial resources into it.

Yep and that is the answer. Make the punishment a lot more severe than the crime.

It will be "companion pets" and looking at making it a criminal act with up to 5 years imprisonment.

With a bit of luck you won't have any TD or senator opposing it (they'd be lynched if they did) and it will pass all stages quickly. Its a FF wexford TD James Browne proposal.

But people need to push him to make sure it sees the light of day and not just the usual political hyperbole

Canyon86 · 04-08-2020 10:29am

a dog was stolen in east cork where Im from and it was discovered and recovered from county galway!

kowloonkev · 04-08-2020 10:52am

dodderangler wrote: »

So what would you have people do?
I've got ferrets.

Look after the pets you have until they die comfortably in your arms.

People make excuses saying that they get from rescue centres etc and they have a good heart in fairness but they are contributing to that industry in a small way, unless they are avoiding buying the pet food, toys and all.

People who buy from pet shops or unknown sellers disgust me to be honest and need to take a long look at themselves, and don't tell me they care about animals or love animals because they're very selfish people who blind themselves from the reality so they can have a possession/accessory.

whisky_galore · 04-08-2020 10:52am

NovemberWren wrote: »

dreadful to think that they would be stolen; people would be bereft; and Never be able to deal with the loss.

but, also, - there being so many pets nowadays;- this is the loss of life of the farm animals; literally put to death, for people's food, and pets' food.

Can't even have a discussion about pets without some one from the mEaT iS MuRDeR brigade.

What's a dog to do? Chew on a celery stick?

piplip87 · 04-08-2020 10:56am

I've seen post of people having the white calk mark on their walls but these people who areposting this stuff locally are the ones who normally post anything for likes so wouldnt be surprised if they are doing it themselves

razorblunt · 04-08-2020 10:58am

buried wrote: »

Bait for what though?

Fighting dogs is what they say.

whisky_galore · 04-08-2020 11:01am

piplip87 wrote: »

I've seen post of people having the white calk mark on their walls but these people who areposting this stuff locally are the ones who normally post anything for likes so wouldnt be surprised if they are doing it themselves

Winding up the Facebook huns.

whiskeyman · 04-08-2020 11:02am

Are 'expensive items that are often left unsecured' being stolen in your area?

Yes.

Like always.

razorblunt · 04-08-2020 11:06am

katiek102010 wrote: »

One of my dogs was siezed from his original breederby warden as a pup. The litter were specifically bred for bait. 3 of the litter survived

Any idea what happened to the breeder? You'd have to ask serious questions of someone that fights dogs, breed dogs for bait and / or fighting.

silver2020 · 04-08-2020 11:34am

piplip87 wrote: »

I've seen post of people having the white calk mark on their walls but these people who areposting this stuff locally are the ones who normally post anything for likes so wouldnt be surprised if they are doing it themselves

the chalk marks and cable ties and ribbons are all BS and these stories have various forms going back decades in countries all over the world.

People need to call out those who make these comments and stop the scaremongering. The gutter press who will print any sh1te are not helping as truth never matters for those type of journalists

bertiebomber · 04-08-2020 11:35am

parents during lockdown paid huge sums of money to get dogs so they wouldnt have to spend time with their kids whom they hardly know as they are being raised by creches and nannies etc.

So they paid fortunes for dogs thence the thefts. all these over priced dogs will be dumped once normality resumes society is ****ed up . I saw an add for 1200 euro for a jack russell = 1200 EURO & some fool will pay it & drive puppy farming of the scales.

people need to take along hard look at how they live their lives.. Working long hours to be able to pay 1200 for a small dog to convince themselves they are great parents

Lewis_Benson · 04-08-2020 11:58am

razorblunt wrote: »

Any idea what happened to the breeder? You'd have to ask serious questions of someone that fights dogs, breed dogs for bait and / or fighting.

A well known ethnic group.

B.A._Baracus · 04-08-2020 12:01pm

Steal anything eh?
To quote Rodney from Only Fools and Horses: 'Boycie would scalp you if dandruff had a going rate'

LuasSimon · 04-08-2020 12:03pm

buried wrote: »

That sounds like too much work for that crew. I live on the outskirts of a town, work from home for the last 20 years and I have never encountered this, or even heard anything about it.

It’s not really , a good gang would get 6-9 dogs a day , get an average of 150 a dig , minimum 900 between three , minimum 300 each per day . Wherever you live must have a garda station and some active gardai in it . Most towns and villages in rural Ireland have no garda station or token coverage so it’s easy for the dog thieves .

Fakediamond · 04-08-2020 12:26pm

I saw an ad recently for springer pups for 2000 sterling each!

Normal burglaries can’t take place as everyone is at home so the emphasis has shifted to dogs, easy money, no real consequences if caught.

katiek102010 · 04-08-2020 1:03pm

razorblunt wrote: »

Any idea what happened to the breeder? You'd have to ask serious questions of someone that fights dogs, breed dogs for bait and / or fighting.

It was in the UK, yes they were arrested and yes they were gypsies

razorblunt · 04-08-2020 1:14pm

katiek102010 wrote: »

It was in the UK, yes they were arrested and yes they were gypsies

Sweet fúck all would have happened to them so.

freshpopcorn · 04-08-2020 1:16pm

These stickers were put on ESB boxes and of course it was the dog nappers that were doing it according to Samantha on Facebook.

Since then ESB has said there workers were responsible for doing it.

katiek102010 · 04-08-2020 1:20pm

razorblunt wrote: »

Sweet fúck all would have happened to them so.

He was actually arrested.

RickDeckard · 04-08-2020 1:25pm

I posted this in Animals Sub Forum, but here is a PSA for Tramore Area:

I was at Saleens Beach, Waterford, 2 weeks ago. With my two dogs.

One dog in the van, my Husky chained to the bumper asleep in the sun with me sitting next to her. I have the two back doors of van open and am sitting there.

Very busy , car park was full of famlies , broad daylight.

2 Mad Max looking wild little girls appeard, going for the husky, and then thier Dad appeared behind the a few seconds later.

He was 6'4 plus, heavy set, broken nose, two black eyes. Obviously from a group of people who do no wrong on this country.

He then started quizzing me about the local geography - tides etc, while eyeballing my Husky continously.

I am a man of the world have have traveld all over the globe ,on my own, my insincts are well tuned.
I sussed out he was trying to figure out if I was local or not, Im Irish, live in Tramore but have an English accent.

While he is talking to me he is eyeballing the contents of my van over my shoulder, I have a camper , kitted out.

He repeatedly asked me if I was on my own here. Then he starts smiling at me and telling me he is the the boxing club, As he was stepping nearer to my Dog.

Before he could react, I grabbed the Husky, literally threw here in the air into the back of the van, poor thing did not know what was happening.

I had myself and the dog in the van and slammed the back doors in his face and drove off, withing about 4 seconds, he was laughing , and swearing at me as I drove off.

He was going to take me Dog initally, when he saw my van, he was about to do me in and take everything. I am absoulty certian of this. Im an old wise dog myself.

I go to this beach often, but never again. .

A certian group of folks like to frolic lovingly with thier ponies daily on this beach. He was from that group.
This is Saleens Beach Waterford. Be very very carefull with your dogs on that beach.

I think the multiple crisies we are in is effecting a certian group also and they are getting pretty bloody brazen.

This is my third negative encounter this year. My blood is boiling.

katiek102010 · 04-08-2020 1:42pm

RickDeckard wrote: »

I posted this in Animals Sub Forum, but here is a PSA for Tramore Area:

I was at Saleens Beach, Waterford, 2 weeks ago. With my two dogs.

One dog in the van, my Husky chained to the bumper asleep in the sun with me sitting next to her. I have the two back doors of van open and am sitting there.

Very busy , car park was full of famlies , broad daylight.

2 Mad Max looking wild little girls appeard, going for the husky, and then thier Dad appeared behind the a few seconds later.

He was 6'4 plus, heavy set, broken nose, two black eyes. Obviously from a group of people who do no wrong on this country.

He then started quizzing me about the local geography - tides etc, while eyeballing my Husky continously.

I am a man of the world have have traveld all over the globe ,on my own, my insincts are well tuned.
I sussed out he was trying to figure out if I was local or not, Im Irish, live in Tramore but have an English accent.

While he is talking to me he is eyeballing the contents of my van over my shoulder, I have a camper , kitted out.

He repeatedly asked me if I was on my own here. Then he starts smiling at me and telling me he is the the boxing club, As he was stepping nearer to my Dog.

Before he could react, I grabbed the Husky, literally threw here in the air into the back of the van, poor thing did not know what was happening.

I had myself and the dog in the van and slammed the back doors in his face and drove off, withing about 4 seconds, he was laughing , and swearing at me as I drove off.

He was going to take me Dog initally, when he saw my van, he was about to do me in and take everything. I am absoulty certian of this. Im an old wise dog myself.

I go to this beach often, but never again. .

A certian group of folks like to frolic lovingly with thier ponies daily on this beach. He was from that group.
This is Saleens Beach Waterford. Be very very carefull with your dogs on that beach.

I think the multiple crisies we are in is effecting a certian group also and they are getting pretty bloody brazen.

This is my third negative encounter this year. My blood is boiling.

Absolute disgrace has happened to you.

It's not the first time the girls have been mentioned.

It is no surprise the kids turn out like that, when they are being coached from an early age to behave in such a manner

RickDeckard · 04-08-2020 1:49pm

katiek102010 wrote: »

Absolute disgrace has happened to you.

It's not the first time the girls have been mentioned.

It is no surprise the kids turn out like that, when they are being coached from an early age to behave in such a manner

Thanks Katie, so these individual wee girls / family on this beach has already been noticed?? Wow , things are worse than I thought.

The inaction/unwillingness of the authorities to do ANYTHING has me seriously considering how I will defend myself, Ill buy pepper spray online etc, I know its illegal, but the state cannot protect me and mine, so they can shove that stupid pepper spray law you know where.

I want to be able to defend myself and be able to escape. This is happening more and more. I never though I'd feel this unsafe in Ireland.

Im with my Dog 24/7 now, and watch her like a hawk, over my dead body will anyone take her.

Are dogs being stolen in your area?

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