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This weeks Classic Irish bargains that I'm not buying

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,708 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    A twenty grand white 90s manual Mercedes taxi diesel? Not my idea of a classic bargain :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,863 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    look whats back ! price rise though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,708 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    RobAMerc wrote: »
    look whats back ! price rise though

    It was for sale at an asking price of €7k previously, now it's €6.9k. So a price drop, not a price rise!

    Ad must have disappeared and then renewed (as I am still subscribed to it). Not that surprising it wasn't sold, the market for one would be tiny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,863 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    unkel wrote: »
    It was for sale at an asking price of €7k previously, now it's €6.9k. So a price drop, not a price rise!

    Ad must have disappeared and then renewed (as I am still subscribed to it). Not that surprising it wasn't sold, the market for one would be tiny.

    Oh, I thought it was 6k previously, I must oogle a 1000 cars a week, no surprise I got confused !

    Anyway, I think its worth us having a look !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,580 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    https://www.donedeal.ie/rallycars-for-sale/rolls-royce-shadow-one/24142983

    If ye are back looking at Rollers this wild card turned up advertised on DD in Rally Cars section.


  • Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭jucko


    elperello wrote: »
    https://www.donedeal.ie/rallycars-for-sale/rolls-royce-shadow-one/24142983

    If ye are back looking at Rollers this wild card turned up advertised on DD in Rally Cars section.


    .... is that a couple of 911s in front??


  • Registered Users Posts: 191 ✭✭jucko


    jucko wrote: »
    .... is that a couple of 911s in front??


    oh, just bits of them, in his other ads :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭w124man


    unkel wrote: »
    A twenty grand white 90s manual Mercedes taxi diesel? Not my idea of a classic bargain :p

    The thing is, find a good rust free W124 saloon in this condition for less. Aint gonna happen in this country. There is a 2200 mile 1988 230E for sale in London with a tag of £26,000 making this one a bargain. The W124 has finally reached its time!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,699 ✭✭✭ronaneire


    w124man wrote: »
    The thing is, find a good rust free W124 saloon in this condition for less. Aint gonna happen in this country. There is a 2200 mile 1988 230E for sale in London with a tag of £26,000 making this one a bargain. The W124 has finally reached its time!


    And both will be for sale for a long time. Neither are bargains...maybe dreamer of the year forum :P


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    How could you possibly repair this amount of corrosion listed in 1 day....properly,
    503581.jpeg


    https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mercedes-w126-280-se-83-vintage-tax/21524469


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,079 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mitsubishi-colt/24283771

    YWMxNDk2ZjBmMzI4YTcwMDk2ZGU4YmQ5NzQ5YTU4YjInGGDrZ1STOAqX3-JSOrzGaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b18xNDI1NTcyMDV8fHw2MDB4NjAwfHx8fHx8fHw=.jpeg

    I like the look of this. 32k miles, seemingly no rust and in excellent nick. NCT'd for a year and exempt thereafter

    I had a 79 3 speed auto Accord a few years ago, it certainly didn't set the world alight but it was a pleasant old thing to buzz around in. If this is anything like that it will be grand too no doubt. In the case of my accord it felt lightyears ahead of its British counterparts of the time.

    This is €3400. I think with 500 quid knocked off the asking it could be a decent buy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭oceanman


    kadman wrote: »
    How could you possibly repair this amount of corrosion listed in 1 day....properly,
    503581.jpeg


    https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mercedes-w126-280-se-83-vintage-tax/21524469
    that's more like it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭w124man


    kadman wrote: »
    How could you possibly repair this amount of corrosion listed in 1 day....properly


    Underseal!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭w124man


    ronaneire wrote: »
    And both will be for sale for a long time. Neither are bargains...maybe dreamer of the year forum :P

    Totally disagree.

    The UK 230E is now under negotiation with an MB club member and will be gone soon. The white one will be pulled within a month if it doesn't sell and put back in the garage until its thirty. Both are effectively new cars, both easily capable of twenty years motoring. I suppose if you're used to Fiat 127's and rusty Sierras well then you wont get just how good these cars actually are.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    w124man wrote: »
    Underseal!


    :p:p:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,863 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    I wish I could find something interesting on DD or Adverts to get this back on track ! One of the joys of classics is silly sized V8's and the smell of oil ! Can we all just agree that as far as this forum is concerned batteries are for starting cars, powering phones and well, vibrators and move on ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭Seweryn


    May not be strictly a bargain, but looks like a nice car (except the wheels of course):

    https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1992-mercedes-600-sel-v12-lhd-armoured-limo/24294740


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,331 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Looking around for insperation for a paint job for my own T2 today and spotted this bad boy https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1969-vw-bayview-camper/24295587


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 2,957 Mod ✭✭✭✭macplaxton


    There is an EV section of Boards if you wish to talk EVs...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,498 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    Early Vehicles!

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,309 ✭✭✭Harcrid


    Lads, ye are ruining the thread...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,060 ✭✭✭Kenny Logins


    Not quite a bargain, but interesting and topical as it runs on LPG. :pac:

    https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mercedes-124/23062062


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,708 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Just put up my W201 Mercedes-Benz for sale a few minutes ago, I think it is a bargain :)

    503844.jpg


    https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mercedes-190/24311321


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,863 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    now your talking !


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 2,957 Mod ✭✭✭✭macplaxton


    MOD NOTE:

    Right, I've moved 22 posts about EVs into a new thread

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058057206

    Don't mind a bit of chat about not buying things in this thread, but bear in mind the topic title and don't meander too far from it. You can talk classic EVs until the cows come home in the other thread (or even in the EV forum), but not here.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭oceanman


    unkel wrote: »
    Just put up my W201 Mercedes-Benz for sale a few minutes ago, I think it is a bargain :)

    503844.jpg


    https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mercedes-190/24311321

    lovely looking car, probably sell a bit quicker though if it had an e at the end of that 190.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,708 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    oceanman wrote: »
    lovely looking car, probably sell a bit quicker though if it had an e at the end of that 190.

    Not sure if it would?

    Funny enough it's the only car I have ever owned that doesn't have fuel injection, but it also easily the most reliable classic car I have ever had. Runs very smoothly too. Don't use it for two weeks and it starts immediately. It suits me down to the ground as the second family car that I only need occasionally. If I didn't also have the Porsche, I wouldn't sell the Mercedes. Maybe I shouldn't sell it but stick the Porsche in storage for some time. I taxed it for the full year last year (€1,080) but I only used it a handful of times, which I find a poor use of my funds.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,124 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    Is it not a vintage class tax...56 euro???


    Now i see....Porsche:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,708 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    I wish the Porsche was vintage motor tax :o

    Another 8 years and 10 months to go...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,937 ✭✭✭SmartinMartin


    https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mitsubishi-colt/24283771

    YWMxNDk2ZjBmMzI4YTcwMDk2ZGU4YmQ5NzQ5YTU4YjInGGDrZ1STOAqX3-JSOrzGaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b18xNDI1NTcyMDV8fHw2MDB4NjAwfHx8fHx8fHw=.jpeg

    I like the look of this. 32k miles, seemingly no rust and in excellent nick. NCT'd for a year and exempt thereafter

    I had a 79 3 speed auto Accord a few years ago, it certainly didn't set the world alight but it was a pleasant old thing to buzz around in. If this is anything like that it will be grand too no doubt. In the case of my accord it felt lightyears ahead of its British counterparts of the time.

    This is €3400. I think with 500 quid knocked off the asking it could be a decent buy

    Am I missing something there Duke? Surely it's only pre 80 that applies to?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,708 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Am I missing something there Duke? Surely it's only pre 80 that applies to?

    No, Duke is right (and so is the seller)

    The legislation changed (I think last year or the year before), so going forward the NCT exemption is now a rolling one. When any car is over 40 years old, it will no longer need an NCT


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,152 ✭✭✭26000 Elephants


    unkel wrote: »
    No, Duke is right (and so is the seller)

    The legislation changed (I think last year or the year before), so going forward the NCT exemption is now a rolling one. When any car is over 40 years old, it will no longer need an NCT

    I find that rule bizarre. By all means, lower the bar for emissions and such on cars that do such obviously miles, but every car on the road should meet a minimum legal requirement for tyres, steering,brakes, corrosion, etc.

    It will probably keeps more classics going for longer as people will be required to maintain them better. The "no NCT" thing is just a charter for chancers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭Seweryn


    I find that rule bizarre. By all means, lower the bar for emissions and such on cars that do such obviously miles, but every car on the road should meet a minimum legal requirement for tyres, steering,brakes, corrosion, etc.

    It will probably keeps more classics going for longer as people will be required to maintain them better. The "no NCT" thing is just a charter for chancers.
    True, but it still makes little difference. Just look at the ads how many 30 - 40 year old classics have valid NCT.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,708 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Seweryn wrote: »
    True, but it still makes little difference. Just look at the ads how many 30 - 40 year old classics have valid NCT.

    Let's say the ads on DoneDeal? Which percentage of cars for sale have a valid NCT that should have an NCT? I'd say it's well less than half. Only in Ireland.

    I hasten to add that a car does not need an NCT if the car is not driven on the public road. But you get my point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭Seweryn


    unkel wrote: »
    Let's say the ads on DoneDeal? Which percentage of cars for sale have a valid NCT that should have an NCT? I'd say it's well less than half. Only in Ireland.
    That's what I mean actually. Very few have NCT now, regardless if the test is required or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,079 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mercedes-450-slc-restoration-project/24310162

    MzMwMTIzYzZiZWVjNjUxNGE2ZDVkMDRlMGQ0MzQ0MWJl96jXEz3FqSXfY75X9b-faHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b18xNDI3NjQ5NDB8fHw2MDB4NjAwfHx8fHx8fHw=.jpeg

    SLC450, €3200

    Anyone brave enough?

    Love that it has an L plate in the window


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,708 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    I love them. Always have. The main reasons are the V8, that they were the most expensive Mercedes ever when new and that they've always been unpopular (compared to the SL), so very cheap second hand :p

    Would need thorough inspection to determine if the car is not too far gone to restore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,079 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    unkel wrote: »
    I love them. Always have. The main reasons are the V8, that they were the most expensive Mercedes ever when new and that they've always been unpopular (compared to the SL), so very cheap second hand :p

    Would need thorough inspection to determine if the car is not too far gone to restore.

    Sure if you have it a wash it wouldn't look out of place at most car shows

    NCT exempt!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,331 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    If you could live with the D designation this is a decent alternative SL for small money https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-sl350/24245119
    Nice milage..


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,152 ✭✭✭26000 Elephants


    unkel wrote: »
    I love them. Always have. The main reasons are the V8, that they were the most expensive Mercedes ever when new and that they've always been unpopular (compared to the SL), so very cheap second hand :p

    Would need thorough inspection to determine if the car is not too far gone to restore.

    I could never get the hate for these, they always struck me as a stylish car - certainly less gauche than the SL back in the day!

    Similar costs to restore and maintain as the SL, so not for the faint hearted.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,863 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    I get the V8 bit, but they are awkward looking imo I'd rather a v12 XJS or a 928 maybe. Although I love verts, so I probably would have a R107 instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭JabbaTheHut


    If you could live with the D designation this is a decent alternative SL for small money https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-sl350/24245119
    Nice milage..

    At first I thought you had something against Dubliners, until I read the add :)

    On a related note to unkels Porsche, the road tax will be a killer on that. €1809 each year for every year you own it. As time moves on, and more and more cars fall into the post July08 bracket of "cheap" tax, and vintage coming closer to that date, I wonder how long the €56 vintage tax will stay reasonable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,708 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    And if I were to pay the max motor tax of €1,809 again, I most certainly would not content myself with a crappy V6 engine :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭swarlb


    At first I thought you had something against Dubliners, until I read the add :)

    On a related note to unkels Porsche, the road tax will be a killer on that. €1809 each year for every year you own it. As time moves on, and more and more cars fall into the post July08 bracket of "cheap" tax, and vintage coming closer to that date, I wonder how long the €56 vintage tax will stay reasonable.

    Here's my thoughts on the 'vintage' tax...
    It was brought in after lobbying by the IVVCC in an attempt to make 'old car' usage more affordable, not as a 'target to reach' in order to have everyone drive a (Merc possibly ?) as an everyday car.
    Considering it's so affordable, it's surprising to see the sheer amount of untaxed 'eligible' cars you'd see at shows or for sale.
    If people continue to hoard cars waiting to tax the at €56 (or in reality sell them on as 'affordable') some bean countering actuary might suggest scrapping it as a waste of revenue, and suggest increasing it to a level more in keeping with a cost of living margin for example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,277 ✭✭✭MrCostington


    https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mercedes-450-slc-restoration-project/24310162



    SLC450, €3200

    Anyone brave enough?

    Love that it has an L plate in the window


    There was the same model in Limerick on DD for a good while last year for a bout 4k IIRC in a kinda gold colour (also IIRC) - was very tempted. I'd have the SLC over an SL any day, love that styling on the C pillar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭oceanman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65,708 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Sweet. Looks to have been stored indoors. Right bargain if it's not rotted. If it was 3 doors and I had a barn, I would be on my way to Arklow already :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,764 ✭✭✭oceanman


    https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1971-ford-escort/24343599
    im not a ford fan but that looks kinda cool......pity the steering wheel is on the wrong side though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,079 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    oceanman wrote: »
    https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1971-ford-escort/24343599
    im not a ford fan but that looks kinda cool......pity the steering wheel is on the wrong side though.

    That is lovely. Nice to see an original looking 4 door example.

    Remember when stuff like this was making close to 20k?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,487 ✭✭✭Seweryn


    oceanman wrote: »
    https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1971-ford-escort/24343599
    ...pity the steering wheel is on the wrong side though.
    It is on the proper side. Cars are designed that way and when they want to sell their cars here they convert them.

    Very often some components are left in the wrong place, like a brake master on the left, radio controls on the passenger side, bonnet open latch on the left side of the car, hand brake lever closer to the passenger, etc.

    Also the manual gear change pattern is designed for the driver to operate it from the driver side (i.e. left side of the car).
    Sometimes there is no left foot rest in the RHD models. And some cars come with unchanged windscreen wiper rest positions.

    So, the RHD cars are always somehow compromised.


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