Corona virus in waterford

spookwoman · 11-03-2020 9:13pm

https://twitter.com/Deisesupes/status/1237821424565456899?s=20

Captain Red Beard · 11-03-2020 9:25pm

Staff from Cartamundi are self isolating.

DLS_75 · 11-03-2020 9:33pm

Was the chap from last night from Cartamundi so?

Captain Red Beard · 11-03-2020 10:01pm

The lad in hospital is as far as I know. More staff were told to isolate themselves but no decision has been made for shift workers arriving in. Ridiculous situation for people to be in.

PTH2009 · 11-03-2020 10:18pm

DLS_75 wrote: »

Was the chap from last night from Cartamundi so?

heard he was

Banana Republic. · 11-03-2020 11:44pm

Cabaal wrote: »

Communication has been made, recommendations have also been made to people. Funding has been put in place along with planning.

What more do you want?

This situation is an awkward one, you close down a country completely like Italy when there's no need and you'll throw it into a recession. Then we'll have people like yourself commenting about how the government has overreacted and caused 1,000's to be a out of jobs needlessly.

We live in unprecedented times, the last time the world had to deal with something like this was really the Spanish flu and back then the likes of UK, USA, Germany, France all ignored it...but Spain didn't, they reported on it and thats why its called the Spanish Flu.

Ireland;s response is fairly measured so far and it makes sense, its practical and imho well communicated through a number of mediums. We didn't jump the gun and knee jerk cancel St Patricks but we known the less eventually cancelled it as we saw things change. It had plenty of time to make the decision yet people were bitching and moaning on social media like it needed to be made ASAP.

By comparison the UK went ahead with Cheltenham which attracts upwards of 50k people each day! The USA is also basically a clusterf**k of incompetence and ignorance with the president trying to play it down....ironically repeating the same mistakes of the Spanish flu by playing it down.

In addition the Ireland';s changes to illness benefit are very much a positive move, the USA which by comparison has no such plans and has no real illness programmes so its going to end up with countless sick people going to work because they have no funds.

All of this, fair play, on the button. We're so lucky and the provisions made available right now will save lives.

Motivator · 12-03-2020 9:31am

Aquos76 wrote: »

So tell me, is he still a prick now that WLR and RTE's health correspondent are reporting it? Maybe he just broke the story early, maybe give him some credit....

Yeah he still is a prick. You obviously don’t know the man

Wanderer78 · 12-03-2020 9:34am

Motivator wrote:

Yeah he still is a prick. You obviously donâ€™t know the man

Maybe he does!

Gardner · 12-03-2020 10:43am

spookwoman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Deisesupes/status/1237821424565456899?s=20

why does he need to report this and not the HSE publically announce it. some chip on his shoulder

Gardner · 12-03-2020 10:45am

Max Powers wrote: »

I must be one of the few people who think the likes of HSE are doing a decent job on this, communication is good, looks like HSE/govt are learning from what is happening elsewhere, lets face it there are going to be hundreds of cases in a short period of time here no matter what you do right now. there are medical experts who seem to be advising and leading this, they know when the right time is to take the right action.
I'm more worried about the B.S.people are posting and saying in real life and Irish peoples lack of civic mindedness or working as a cooperative collective which will be essential when this progresses. The likes of taking the precautions advised by govt and it's agencies.we've all seen people not bother their ar$€ doing the hand sanitizer at the hospital entrance, we've already seen panic buying start for toilet too for jeebus sake.

excellent post. maybe the local media might take it on board

Flow Motion · 12-03-2020 10:46am

Banana Republic. wrote: »

Lack of Civic mindedness = Nail on the head. Too many idiots posting on social media trying to look like hard men who know better then the real experts.

Good to note that the local print media are being cautious and acting in the public interest by not causing anxiety/panic/hysteria.... front page headline in this week's Wfd News + Star... "WATERFORD ON LOCK DOWN!" :eek::rolleyes:

Cue, Joe Public running to local supermarket stocking up on pasta, noodles and toilet rolls

Pattern panic buy Item for Snow/Ice Age = Sliced Pan's
Pattern Panic buy Item for Corona = Toilet Rolls

DLS_75 · 12-03-2020 10:50am

I think the moderators need to step in at this point. I’ve stated before that I’ve met Darren Skelton on one occasion. He did a remarkably nice turn for our mother, so I’m getting that out of the way before I’m accused of being his friend/lover/brother or whatever.

We have a #bekind bull on Facebook and yet people are allowed to call him a prick etc on this site. I don’t even know if he’s seen any of it, or even cares but I assume because his brother is on here, he probably has.

I don’t see what he has done wrong here. Tiernan has done 100s times worse but doesn’t seem to get the level of abuse that Darren does. He reported information that the public deserve to know about but the HSE are not telling us, and people are abusing him because of that. WLR and the Times covered it after and nobody said a word. I was genuinely tempted to send him a message on Twitter last night to thank him for keeping us up to date - and sure maybe I will later.

In the meantime, maybe people should cut out the personal abuse, especially if you’re doing it behind an anonymous username.

Gardner · 12-03-2020 10:55am

DLS_75 wrote: »

I think the moderators need to step in at this point. I’ve stated before that I’ve met Darren Skelton on one occasion. He did a remarkably nice turn for our mother, so I’m getting that out of the way before I’m accused of being his friend/lover/brother or whatever.

We have a #bekind bull on Facebook and yet people are allowed to call him a prick etc on this site. I don’t even know if he’s seen any of it, or even cares but I assume because his brother is on here, he probably has.

I don’t see what he has done wrong here. Tiernan has done 100s times worse but doesn’t seem to get the level of abuse that Darren does. He reported information that the public deserve to know about but the HSE are not telling us, and people are abusing him because of that. WLR and the Times covered it after and nobody said a word. I was genuinely tempted to send him a message on Twitter last night to thank him for keeping us up to date - and sure maybe I will later.

In the meantime, maybe people should cut out the personal abuse, especially if you’re doing it behind an anonymous username.

yes for obvious reasons. can you not get that into your brain?

Harry Palmr · 12-03-2020 10:58am

I see trolley count has tumbled fancy that.

DLS_75 · 12-03-2020 10:59am

Tiernan out in Cartamundi now. If Darren did that I’d say this site would explode with the abuse that would come his way.

All the staff of cartamundi are now targets and people will want to stay away from them in future.

DLS_75 · 12-03-2020 11:02am

Gardner wrote: »

yes for obvious reasons. can you not get that into your brain?

Let’s see what you have to say about Tiernan so.

Gardner · 12-03-2020 11:06am

DLS_75 wrote: »

Let’s see what you have to say about Tiernan so.

sure himself and Skelton are buddies!

DLS_75 · 12-03-2020 11:12am

Gardner wrote: »

sure himself and Skelton are buddies!

So?

This is genuinely annoying me so much because in other countries people are given a lot more information than we are here. Apparently supervisors in Hasbro are being tested. If you know one of them personally, do you think you deserve to know this? I’m with Tiernan here I have to say.

hardybuck · 12-03-2020 11:30am

DLS_75 wrote: »

Tiernan out in Cartamundi now. If Darren did that I’d say this site would explode with the abuse that would come his way.

All the staff of cartamundi are now targets and people will want to stay away from them in future.

The media are absolutely delighted to have something to report on. Especially if its something new and uncertain that we don't fully understand yet.

I wonder if they'll be providing live updates on the flu in future years when we'll get somewhere between 500-1000 deaths.

BBM77 · 12-03-2020 12:05pm

DLS_75 wrote: »

Tiernan out in Cartamundi now. If Darren did that I’d say this site would explode with the abuse that would come his way.

All the staff of cartamundi are now targets and people will want to stay away from them in future.

DLS_75 wrote: »

So?

This is genuinely annoying me so much because in other countries people are given a lot more information than we are here. Apparently supervisors in Hasbro are being tested. If you know one of them personally, do you think you deserve to know this? I’m with Tiernan here I have to say.

Yes this is just fantastic! So someone in Hasbro has COVID-19, Tiernan goes to Hasbro then brings it to WLR’s offices in a large residential area of the city. Well done Damien spread it around good. Go into an old peoples home next and really tell medical advice and common sense to go **** themselves.

The media are not helping as some people here seem to naively think, they are just stirring up fear for their gain.

friendlyfun · 12-03-2020 12:22pm

Damien seems to interviewing some lad from a hospital bed in Ardkeen. Don't think its particularly helpful unless they're asking a healthcare professional.

Tarzann · 12-03-2020 12:23pm

I turned on WLR now based on posts here, talk about scaremongering and ill-advised finger pointing!

Some "expert" (Liz?) slating UHW for not closing to cleanse the ward from where the first Waterford case had spent some time - I thought the virus can only live so long outside of the body therefore do not see the importance of that at this time. Correct me if I am wrong!
And DT slating UHW for not providing him with an expert to answer "simple" questions daily.

In a week's time our hospitals are going to be under incredible pressure...

StringerBell · 12-03-2020 12:46pm

Schools, colleges and childcare facilities shutting from tomorrow until provisionally the 29th of March

Tarzann · 12-03-2020 1:06pm

WLR News

"Crowds will not attend GAA or League Of Ireland fixtures for the rest of the year"

notfromhere · 12-03-2020 1:32pm

WIT closed from 6 pm today

Flow Motion · 12-03-2020 1:47pm

Tarzann wrote: »

WLR News

"Crowds will not attend GAA or League Of Ireland fixtures for the rest of the year"

Good old WLR stoking the hysteria! I am waiting for the "Christmas is Cancelled" announcement soon....:D

Captain Red Beard · 12-03-2020 1:55pm

CHRISTMAS IS CANCELLED!!!

wsopchamp · 12-03-2020 2:01pm

not trying to down play the whole situation as someone has caught this illness in the city,but when you look at the bigger picture it may not be as bad for Waterford as people think.
Wuhan has a population of around 11 million people and is probably only the size of cork ( correct me if im wrong ) . Doubt the national broadcasters there were informing anyone there ,or in China of what was happening until it was too late. it was bound to spread rapidly there as time went on .
Italy is probably the most popular tourist destination in Europe so they would have a lot of people coming from afar to visit and as the world is such a small place nowadays it would not take long for it to spread rapidly there either with the amount of tourists passing through.

Waterford on the other hand has not a massive tourist trade IMO so should not be getting the visitors that the likes of Dublin would . If people follow the national guidelines about the washing of hands ,coughing into sleeve , self isolation if needed etc i doubt it will hit as bad here.

Do think its a good idea to shut schools though , kids would not have the cop on to wash hands regular and would spread this around faster ,would also be staying out of town unless it was a necessity ,until it is all under control.

mooseknunkle · 12-03-2020 2:40pm

DLS_75 wrote: »

Tiernan out in Cartamundi now. If Darren did that I’d say this site would explode with the abuse that would come his way.

All the staff of cartamundi are now targets and people will want to stay away from them in future.

DT is a pain in the hole and he is doing what the news and star are doing only he's making videos and not printing it,they are both as bad as each other but all the personal abuse is uncalled for ,i doubt anyone would call him a prick to his face!

DLS_75 · 12-03-2020 3:08pm

I only saw the front of the news and star now - is it wrong though? Based of the lunacy I saw in Tesco this morning it looks like the place is on lockdown. Or at least people seem to be preparing for it

mooseknunkle · 12-03-2020 3:12pm

DLS_75 wrote: »

I only saw the front of the news and star now - is it wrong though? Based of the lunacy I saw in Tesco this morning it looks like the place is on lockdown. Or at least people seem to be preparing for it

Last weeks front page was worse to be honest

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DLS_75 · 12-03-2020 3:17pm

I read that one. Wasn’t it a nurse or something saying that the place couldn’t handle infection?

Mad headline but tbh I think UHW is more prepared than most for this with the Dunmore wing full of isolation rooms.

Flow Motion · 12-03-2020 3:20pm

DLS_75 wrote: »

I only saw the front of the news and star now - is it wrong though? Based of the lunacy I saw in Tesco this morning it looks like the place is on lockdown. Or at least people seem to be preparing for it

It is wrong. Its sensationalist and breeds fear amongst those that read it which would be primarily people in the elderly age bracket ("the paper" being akin to a local bible).

mooseknunkle · 12-03-2020 3:44pm

DLS_75 wrote: »

I read that one. Wasn’t it a nurse or something saying that the place couldn’t handle infection?

Mad headline but tbh I think UHW is more prepared than most for this with the Dunmore wing full of isolation rooms.

Dont know who said it but whoever did it doesnt mean it should be spread across the front page and its only the word of one person out of a workforce of over 2000,yeah i agree that Ardkeen is better prepared to handle this than most hospitals across the country.

I dont think ive seen any local media come out with helpful things regarding the virus like all the washing of hands and HSE recommendations ,they would be a lot more useful if they did.

DLS_75 · 12-03-2020 3:52pm

mooseknunkle wrote: »

Dont know who said it but whoever did it doesnt mean it should be spread across the front page and its only the word of one person out of a workforce of over 2000,yeah i agree that Ardkeen is better prepared to handle this than most hospitals across the country.

I dont think ive seen any local media come out with helpful things regarding the virus like all the washing of hands and HSE recommendations ,they would be a lot more useful if they did.

Im not in the industry but to be honest, do people really want to read that? The same people who love court pages and all that type of stuff probably lap up that type of hysteria.

mooseknunkle · 12-03-2020 4:08pm

DLS_75 wrote: »

Im not in the industry but to be honest, do people really want to read that? The same people who love court pages and all that type of stuff probably lap up that type of hysteria.

Washing your hands and being hygienic so we can all try our best to stop the spread of this virus is hysteria?

Captain Red Beard · 12-03-2020 4:13pm

It's tabloid level and Tiernan, Skelton, The News & Star, and WLR should know better.

Max Powers · 12-03-2020 4:34pm

Flow Motion wrote: »

It is wrong. Its sensationalist and breeds fear amongst those that read it which would be primarily people in the elderly age bracket ("the paper" being akin to a local bible).

Agree, wrong and sensationalist.

DLS_75 · 12-03-2020 5:30pm

mooseknunkle wrote: »

Washing your hands and being hygienic so we can all try our best to stop the spread of this virus is hysteria?

Of course not, I meant the other stuff that the news and star and Tiernan do, the more sensational stuff. A lot of people can’t get enough of it

Wanderer2010 · 12-03-2020 6:49pm

Having read this thread, im surprised at the amount of bile directed towards Skelton and Tiernan. some of it obviously personal from a long held grudge or for something that one of them said to or about a friend of these keyboard warriors. Part of the job and im sure they have thick skins to shrug off the abuse. When hard questions are asked of politicians, people will always lash out first. Its a natural defence mechanism to distract from all manner of unpleasant feelings.

However, taking a purely objective view, both are fantastic journalists who ask the right questions. Certainly Tiernan didn't give Mary Butler an inch of wiggle room in the recent interview about the canvassing scandal. He got in there again and again and asked the exact questions people wanted answers to. Same when Leo Varadkar came on, he grilled him on 24/7 care and the North Quays and he wasn't at all fazed by him, asking the hard questions over and over until Leo had to answer.

Same with Skelton, he goes straight for the jugular and asks direct questions on budgets, cronyism, cardiac care etc. Now correct me if im wrong, but can you name another journalist in WLR with that ability? Certainly I cannot and I looked though their staff- 90% of them there donkeys years and no ability to cut down the bullsh!t and get direct answers. Take aside your silly grudge and at least respect that there are 2 hard working and brave journalists in Waterford city no afraid to tell the truth. Or if you want to bury your head in the sand, then read the multitude of weak and cowardly journalists in this city, of which there are no shortage. I know what I pick anyway.

Harry Palmr · 12-03-2020 6:51pm

I'd like civil behavior and some consideration of the circumstances and that's aimed as much at this thread as it is the media.

spookwoman · 12-03-2020 7:03pm

2nd death
https://www.independent.ie/world-news/coronavirus/coronavirus-ireland-second-person-dies-from-covid-19-as-emergency-measures-set-to-kick-in-at-6pm-39038929.html

vriesmays · 12-03-2020 7:27pm

Elderly people with existing illnesses.

spookwoman · 12-03-2020 7:30pm

They are testing in the lab now in waterford

mooseknunkle · 12-03-2020 7:32pm

DLS_75 wrote: »

Of course not, I meant the other stuff that the news and star and Tiernan do, the more sensational stuff. A lot of people can’t get enough of it

Apologies i misunderstood what you were saying,yeah true there is a lot of people out there who cant get enough of the sensational stuff,personally i think all the media should be working together and releasing any info at an agreed time like Harry mentioned a few pages back

Ace2007 · 12-03-2020 7:36pm

mooseknunkle wrote: »

Apologies i misunderstood what you were saying,yeah true there is a lot of people out there who cant get enough of the sensational stuff,personally i think all the media should be working together and releasing any info at an agreed time like Harry mentioned a few pages back

I think the media should be told to not report so much about this. It's not helping anyone really - and instead causes panic

spookwoman · 12-03-2020 7:43pm

Media are reporting it fine, its not the medias fault if people are complete and utter gobsh*tes and go into panic mode bulk buying. Releasing the info on the case in WRH also right and by looks of it they still haven't learned anything from the swine flu. Same thing then, people let wander around out from A+E Triage and into A+E front area to get food, use loo etc. I know I saw it one night when I had to go there. I think people here seem to have more of an issue with DS and DT.

debok · 12-03-2020 8:10pm

vriesmays wrote: »

Elderly people with existing illnesses.

Still died. What's your point?

friendlyfun · 13-03-2020 8:42am

On the maria macann show about a week ago they were saying it's just the flu no need to panic...

hardybuck · 13-03-2020 11:45am

friendlyfun wrote: »

On the maria macann show about a week ago they were saying it's just the flu no need to panic...

I think many people are oblivious to how many people die from flu annually and are then a bit surprised to hear the comparison.

Corona virus in waterford

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