What is the story with the roads in Waterford City?

shockwave · 29-05-2020 1:43pm

They should use this time of lighter traffic to do a lot more roadworks around the place and a lot of the road markings need repainting some of them are almost faded out

Harry Palmr · 29-05-2020 2:46pm

Yep the road marking esp on humps is non existent most of the time, which in the dark can lead to damage.

Harry Palmr · 09-07-2020 4:06pm

Heads up

https://twitter.com/WaterfordCounci/status/1281227146002944000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

hardybuck · 09-07-2020 4:40pm

Thanks for the update, but I really do have to question the decision of the Council to name the road after an organisation that is a proscribed organisation under the UK's Terrorism Act.

Christy Browne · 09-07-2020 5:03pm

hardybuck wrote: »

Thanks for the update, but I really do have to question the decision of the Council to name the road after an organisation that is a proscribed organisation under the UK's Terrorism Act.

Who gives a sh*t? Suppose we shouldn't name streets after Collins, Parnell, O'Connell or Cathal Brugha either

Rename it to Elizabeth Row sure.

alta stare · 09-07-2020 5:05pm

hardybuck wrote: »

Thanks for the update, but I really do have to question the decision of the Council to name the road after an organisation that is a proscribed organisation under the UK's Terrorism Act.

We arent the UK so what has that got to do with anything. Wouldn't it be worse if it was called after Thatcher or Churchill........or would you prefer that.

And the British army caused more terror around the world than anyone else ever has a fact which they seem to ignore quite a bit.

hardybuck · 09-07-2020 5:16pm

Christy Browne wrote: »

Who gives a sh*t? Suppose we shouldn't name streets after Collins, Parnell, O'Connell or Cathal Brugha either Rename it to Elizabeth Row sure.

Throughout the 1980s this terrorist organisation and its members were aligned to hardcore Republicanism, and it is a disgrace that Waterford has seen fit to commemorate them.

It would appear that no other organisation of this nature - e.g. the IRA, IRB, INLA, Fianna Eireann et al has received similar treatment.

If there is a desire to celebrate women who supported the fight for independence, choose individuals who've played an important role.

friendlyfun · 09-07-2020 10:41pm

hardybuck wrote: »

Thanks for the update, but I really do have to question the decision of the Council to name the road after an organisation that is a proscribed organisation under the UK's Terrorism Act.

They were an organization that helped the the IRA win out independence. They are brave and heroic. Enough of your revisionist ****e.

cactus jacks · 09-07-2020 10:47pm

hardybuck wrote: »

Throughout the 1980s this terrorist organisation and its members were aligned to hardcore Republicanism, and it is a disgrace that Waterford has seen fit to commemorate them.

It would appear that no other organisation of this nature - e.g. the IRA, IRB, INLA, Fianna Eireann et al has received similar treatment.

If there is a desire to celebrate women who supported the fight for independence, choose individuals who've played an important role.

Cumann na mBan/The Irish Women’s Council was established on April 2, 1914, because progressive women —including suffragettes, trade union activists, and socialists — were excluded from the all-male Irish National Volunteers. Although historians of the Irish independence era tend to focus on the activities of the Irish Republican Army (IRA) and the political party Sinn Féin, the contributions of Cumann na mBan activists are well-documented. Cumann na mBan, an independent organization of the Irish Republican Movement, was actively involved in the 1916 Easter Rising, the Irish War of Independence (1919-22), and the Irish Civil War (1922-23), and at least nine members were killed in these years.

marlin vs · 09-07-2020 10:53pm

hardybuck wrote: »

but I really do have to question the decision of the Council to name the road after an organisation that is a proscribed organisation under the UK's Terrorism Act.

What's the UK's Terrorism Act got to do with our country especially a country that has terrorised the world for centuries and remember the Great British Empire is after crumbling. Troll.

hardybuck · 09-07-2020 11:05pm

marlin vs wrote: »

What's the UK's Terrorism Act got to do with our country especially a country that has terrorised the world for centuries and remember the Great British Empire is after crumbling. Troll.

It's particularly relevant because it's identified them as a terrorist organisation based upon their activities in Northern Ireland.

hardybuck · 09-07-2020 11:07pm

cactus jacks wrote: »

Cumann na mBan/The Irish Women’s Council was established on April 2, 1914, because progressive women —including suffragettes, trade union activists, and socialists — were excluded from the all-male Irish National Volunteers. Although historians of the Irish independence era tend to focus on the activities of the Irish Republican Army (IRA) and the political party Sinn Féin, the contributions of Cumann na mBan activists are well-documented. Cumann na mBan, an independent organization of the Irish Republican Movement, was actively involved in the 1916 Easter Rising, the Irish War of Independence (1919-22), and the Irish Civil War (1922-23), and at least nine members were killed in these years.

I think all of the above is very true.

But we don't have an IRA road. Have you considered why?

hardybuck · 09-07-2020 11:18pm

friendlyfun wrote: »

They were an organization that helped the the IRA win out independence. They are brave and heroic. Enough of your revisionist ****e.

It's absolutely not revisionist. That's actually something I'd be worried about in the future. I think that day will come will come here unfortunately.

However due to more recent history I don't think this organisation should be celebrated.

While Waterford wouldn't be described as a republican city, as mentioned I'd favour recognising one or more of the famous female participants. For example Úna Brennan from Enniscorthy was initially imprisoned in Waterford after she surrendered.

friendlyfun · 10-07-2020 9:45am

hardybuck wrote: »

It's absolutely not revisionist. That's actually something I'd be worried about in the future. I think that day will come will come here unfortunately.

However due to more recent history I don't think this organisation should be celebrated.

While Waterford wouldn't be described as a republican city, as mentioned I'd favour recognising one or more of the famous female participants. For example Úna Brennan from Enniscorthy was initially imprisoned in Waterford after she surrendered.

What hell are you talking about? They were a largely non-violent organisation that acted as supporting role to the Irish Republican Army. We may have not been independent without them. I'm not even talking about the troubles here. It rare for women to fight here.

What do you mean "The day will come here"? Can you be more specific

hardybuck · 10-07-2020 1:30pm

friendlyfun wrote: »

What hell are you talking about? They were a largely non-violent organisation that acted as supporting role to the Irish Republican Army. We may have not been independent without them. I'm not even talking about the troubles here. It rare for women to fight here.

What do you mean "The day will come here"? Can you be more specific

Are you disputing that this is a terrorist organisation that was involved in violence during the Troubles?

Regarding revisionism, I believe this is a wave that'll hit us eventually. I don't particularly like it myself. But we've had it here already over the years - Nelson's Column on O'Connell Street would be a good example.

mooseknunkle · 10-07-2020 5:14pm

The ladies of Cumann na mBan would be saddened and ashamed to see the Irishman of 2020 ,the men they knew were free thinkers,rebels,men who stood up and fought and died for a country they loved.

Now we have Hardybuck,an Irishman who is disgusted by the name of a road.

Wanderer78 · 10-07-2020 5:17pm

mooseknunkle wrote: »

The ladies of Cumann na mBan would be saddened and ashamed to see the Irishman of 2020 ,the men they knew were free thinkers,rebels,men who stood up and fought and died for a country they loved.

Now we have Hardybuck,an Irishman who is disgusted by the name of a road.

im so angry right now! i need a chamomile, avocado and toast, some yoga afterwards maybe

Harry Palmr · 10-07-2020 5:23pm

This thread is in a pothole

91wx763 · 10-07-2020 8:24pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

This thread is in a pothole

Hardybuck is a pothole in a pothole after all that jibber he's come out with:D .

hardybuck · 10-07-2020 8:32pm

91wx763 wrote: »

Hardybuck is a pothole in a pothole after all that jibber he's come out with:D .

This is a classic case of attack the poster rather than attack the post. On more than one occasion.

I'm noticing that nobody is disputing their record in Northern Ireland which presumably everyone is ok with.

Agree that the thread has been derailed however - this is a separate debate.

alta stare · 12-07-2020 8:50am

hardybuck wrote: »

It's particularly relevant because it's identified them as a terrorist organisation based upon their activities in Northern Ireland.

Northern Ireland.......Ireland....the island of Ireland which the Brits have no right to be in hence the reason they had and will continue to have some form of resistance until they pull out altogether.

They have caused mayhem and misery all over the world yet their propoganda machine wont let their own people know anything about such things. For them to call anyone terrorists is frankly laughable.

Harry Palmr · 13-08-2020 12:32pm

Johns Park from roundabout to and including Pearce Park done, Upper Ballytruckle next judging by the markings.

funkyouup · 13-08-2020 4:23pm

Anyone know when there are finished ripping up the road around traffic lights in ferry bank?

smellyoldboot · 13-08-2020 4:45pm

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Johns Park from roundabout to and including Pearce Park done, Upper Ballytruckle next judging by the markings.

Things are looking up for the naked city.

Harry Palmr · 14-08-2020 3:45pm

From the corpo

O'Connell Street Waterford will be closed

6.30pm Friday to 12 midnight on Sunday each weekend until 27th Sept, 2020

So 7 weekends without access

What is the story with the roads in Waterford City?

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