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What is the story with the roads in Waterford City?

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    #32
    azimuth17
    Registered Users Posts: 909 ✭✭✭azimuth17


    The job took so long because council has no money and funded the work entirely from its own resources.. The loss of €3.5m from Irish Water rates and its replacement by a one off grant (for this year) of €2m was disgraceful. The impact will be felt far and wide in every discretionary area of council spending, for years. How any one could vote for Fine Gael after this is beyond me. People preening now because North Quays is in FG manifesto, I think people on here might remember a university for Waterford being in the 2011 FG manifesto, That has not appeared.


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    #33
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Good news folks, Joe Kelly has announced he is filling the pot holes of Waterford City and County :)

    I dunno if the list is on the Coco website but the following are in the City

    Pearce Park
    Manor Hill
    Ursuline Crescent
    Ballytruckle at Kilochan
    Grange heights entrance
    Polberry at Ozier Park
    Oakwood Hillview
    St Herblain Park
    Grange Park Crescent
    Johns Hill
    St Lawrence to Pearce Park on Airport rd


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    #34
    BBM77
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    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    Good news folks, Joe Kelly has announced he is filling the pot holes of Waterford City and County :)

    I dunno if the list is on the Coco website but the following are in the City

    Pearce Park
    Manor Hill
    Ursuline Crescent
    Ballytruckle at Kilochan
    Grange heights entrance
    Polberry at Ozier Park
    Oakwood Hillview
    St Herblain Park
    Grange Park Crescent
    Johns Hill
    St Lawrence to Pearce Park on Airport rd

    John's Hill needs more than filling in pots hole. It needs to be completely resurfaced.


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    #35
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    I was being flippant they are doing more than potholes, they are resurfacing and strengthening.


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    #36
    Harry Palmr
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    Dunmore Road will have stop go from the 11th, could be a very needed resurfacing job where the top layer has lifted away (whoever did that last job should be made do it again for half price).


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    #37
    reni10
    Registered Users Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭reni10


    Will cause absolute traffic chaos so they better not start everyday until 10 am and be finished before 4.30pm

    I doubt they will though!


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    #38
    BamesJond
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    Roads are a disaster lately. Assume some damage to the suspension on my car is a result of the horrific roads around the city.

    John's hill is a mine field at the minute. Between the road and the council allowing cars park halfway out in the road I'd avoid it if I could but not possible. Should be a one way if they persist with cars being park halfway out on the road.

    Understand resurfacing works will be commenced soon in this but apparently only 160 meters up from the traffic lights. Not enough. Tbh it needs resurfacing to the junction at the top of the folly.

    Areas of Poleberry are shocking, have actually been avoiding of late.

    Roundabouts at hospital both have trenches that have been previously dug out that need refilling.

    And for some reason no-one in Waterford seems to be able to build a structurally sound manhole. Every. Single. One. In the town seems to have collapsed. Even the quay, which is a newer road all the manholes have collapsed.

    I just don't know why the roads are so bad around the place. Been to some other towns recently and the roads are immaculate. The lack of investment is actually costing us money in the long run with potential damage to cars. Frustrating to say the least.


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    #39
    BBM77
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    reni10 wrote: »
    Will cause absolute traffic chaos so they better not start everyday until 10 am and be finished before 4.30pm

    I doubt they will though!

    If they turned off the double traffic lights at Island Lane and Powerscourt it would help move traffic away from the area. They are the main reason traffic backs up around there.


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    #40
    reni10
    Registered Users Posts: 1,151 ✭✭✭reni10


    BBM77 wrote: »
    If they turned off the double traffic lights at Island Lane and Powerscourt it would help move traffic away from the area. They are the main reason traffic backs up around there.

    I agree 100% with these traffic lights causing the vast majority of hold ups!

    So much so I have sent the council numerous emails, videos and also spoken on a number of occasions to Councillors about this but nothing ever changes!

    The entrance at Powerscourt onto the Dunmore Road should be closed and a new exit and entrance opened to lead onto the Old Ballinakill road with a roundabout there so the residents can get out easily.

    Then a the junction of Old Ballinakill Road and Dunmore Road there needs to be a roundabout put in there too and remove the traffic lights.

    Doing both these fairly simple things would increase traffic flow immediately and should have been done years ago!


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    #41
    BBM77
    Registered Users Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭BBM77


    reni10 wrote: »
    I agree 100% with these traffic lights causing the vast majority of hold ups!

    So much so I have sent the council numerous emails, videos and also spoken on a number of occasions to Councillors about this but nothing ever changes!

    The entrance at Powerscourt onto the Dunmore Road should be closed and a new exit and entrance opened to lead onto the Old Ballinakill road with a roundabout there so the residents can get out easily.

    Then a the junction of Old Ballinakill Road and Dunmore Road there needs to be a roundabout put in there too and remove the traffic lights.

    Doing both these fairly simple things would increase traffic flow immediately and should have been done years ago!

    Fair play. Something certainly needs to be done there alright. I heard a councillor say last year that everything has been tried to improve traffic flow along the Dunmore road. I am driving and cycling along there a long time now and nothing has been done other than some pedestrian crossings added. The council seem to be hung up on this extension to the outer ring road. Which is not going to solve the problem really.

    As you say some simple changes would make a big difference. Like up at the traffic lights at the Marian takeaway. Only minor changes were made there and there has been a huge improvement in traffic flow, specially coming down the Upper Yellow Road.

    I know it is controversial but widening the road at Viewmount needs to be looked at again. Having two lanes up to the roundabout at Ardkeen would help a lot to.


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    #42
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    The council seem to be hung up on this extension to the outer ring road. Which is not going to solve the problem really.

    Which extension?

    Also that roadside parcel of land at Ballinakill/Dunmore road was sold for housing so the traffic flow exiting will only get worse.


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    #43
    hardybuck
    Registered Users Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭hardybuck


    BBM77 wrote: »
    Fair play. Something certainly needs to be done there alright. I heard a councillor say last year that everything has been tried to improve traffic flow along the Dunmore road. I am driving and cycling along there a long time now and nothing has been done other than some pedestrian crossings added. The council seem to be hung up on this extension to the outer ring road. Which is not going to solve the problem really.

    As you say some simple changes would make a big difference. Like up at the traffic lights at the Marian takeaway. Only minor changes were made there and there has been a huge improvement in traffic flow, specially coming down the Upper Yellow Road.

    I know it is controversial but widening the road at Viewmount needs to be looked at again. Having two lanes up to the roundabout at Ardkeen would help a lot to.

    By 'everything has been tried' I assume they mean a couple of things have been tried.

    A ban on new construction outside of the ring road for the next couple of years at least would help mitigate further congestion on the Dunmore Road. Widening the road at Viewmount would be pointless unless it was part of a broader widening effort - which should be looked at to provide for dedicated bus and cycle lanes IMO.

    There is significant room to do so to between Knockboy and Ardkeen through a combination of utilising existing margins and CPO of green areas to the front of Viewmount, Earlscourt etc. The Cove down to Newtown is a bit more tricky as you're looking at taking land from front gardens like they'll be doing in Dublin shortly, but this is ultimately necessary to improve journey times on public transport and to provide for population growth.

    Looking at this, the decision by the Council to spend so much time and money reducing capacity on the Quays was frustrating then and even more frustrating now. When our capital city will be pumping money into widening roads to provide dedicated bus and cycle lanes, Waterford has actually spent a fortune going in the opposite direction.


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    #44
    BBM77
    Registered Users Posts: 1,874 ✭✭✭BBM77


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    Which extension?

    Also that roadside parcel of land at Ballinakill/Dunmore road was sold for housing so the traffic flow exiting will only get worse.

    It was no concrete plan. Heard councillors talk about it from time to time. Having a new road from passage cross to the existing outer ring road. Does not even make sense.


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    #45
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    It would make sense as part of a southern by pass.


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    #46
    hardybuck
    Registered Users Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭hardybuck


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    It would make sense as part of a southern by pass.

    A by pass to a ring road.

    All you're doing is loosening the belt on the waist that's expanding. A better approach is to tackle the issue by increasing usage of public transport.


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    #47
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Waterford is slightly fecked up by the fact it nearly has an encircling by pass/ring road - the ring needs to be completed going across to Belview. Won't ever happen of course.


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    #48
    hardybuck
    Registered Users Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭hardybuck


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    Waterford is slightly fecked up by the fact it nearly has an encircling by pass/ring road - the ring needs to be completed going across to Belview. Won't ever happen of course.

    Would agree on the need for belview, but do feel it could happen in the future.


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    #49
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Polberry being resurfaced - quieter lives for those who live along there who have been listening to thunk/clunk sounds outside the front window for years.


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    #50
    Jamie2k9
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    They need to fix the pothole on approach to Tramore roundabout from Cork road by the RSC.


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    #51
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Tramore Road outside Smiths and Lidl entrance fixed. Hopefully that's the "thunk" pulling out of Lidl/Woodies gone for good!


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    #52
    shockwave
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    They should use this time of lighter traffic to do a lot more roadworks around the place and a lot of the road markings need repainting some of them are almost faded out


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    #53
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Yep the road marking esp on humps is non existent most of the time, which in the dark can lead to damage.


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    #54
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Heads up

    https://twitter.com/WaterfordCounci/status/1281227146002944000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw


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    #55
    hardybuck
    Registered Users Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭hardybuck


    Thanks for the update, but I really do have to question the decision of the Council to name the road after an organisation that is a proscribed organisation under the UK's Terrorism Act.


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    #56
    Christy Browne
    Registered Users Posts: 1,164 ✭✭✭Christy Browne


    hardybuck wrote: »
    Thanks for the update, but I really do have to question the decision of the Council to name the road after an organisation that is a proscribed organisation under the UK's Terrorism Act.

    Who gives a sh*t? Suppose we shouldn't name streets after Collins, Parnell, O'Connell or Cathal Brugha either :confused: Rename it to Elizabeth Row sure.


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    #57
    alta stare
    Registered Users Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭alta stare


    hardybuck wrote: »
    Thanks for the update, but I really do have to question the decision of the Council to name the road after an organisation that is a proscribed organisation under the UK's Terrorism Act.

    We arent the UK so what has that got to do with anything. Wouldn't it be worse if it was called after Thatcher or Churchill........or would you prefer that.

    And the British army caused more terror around the world than anyone else ever has a fact which they seem to ignore quite a bit.


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    #58
    hardybuck
    Registered Users Posts: 5,159 ✭✭✭hardybuck


    Christy Browne wrote: »
    Who gives a sh*t? Suppose we shouldn't name streets after Collins, Parnell, O'Connell or Cathal Brugha either :confused: Rename it to Elizabeth Row sure.

    Throughout the 1980s this terrorist organisation and its members were aligned to hardcore Republicanism, and it is a disgrace that Waterford has seen fit to commemorate them.

    It would appear that no other organisation of this nature - e.g. the IRA, IRB, INLA, Fianna Eireann et al has received similar treatment.

    If there is a desire to celebrate women who supported the fight for independence, choose individuals who've played an important role.


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    #59
    friendlyfun
    Registered Users Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭friendlyfun


    hardybuck wrote: »
    Thanks for the update, but I really do have to question the decision of the Council to name the road after an organisation that is a proscribed organisation under the UK's Terrorism Act.

    They were an organization that helped the the IRA win out independence. They are brave and heroic. Enough of your revisionist ****e.


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    #60
    cactus jacks
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    hardybuck wrote: »
    Throughout the 1980s this terrorist organisation and its members were aligned to hardcore Republicanism, and it is a disgrace that Waterford has seen fit to commemorate them.

    It would appear that no other organisation of this nature - e.g. the IRA, IRB, INLA, Fianna Eireann et al has received similar treatment.

    If there is a desire to celebrate women who supported the fight for independence, choose individuals who've played an important role.

    Cumann na mBan/The Irish Women’s Council was established on April 2, 1914, because progressive women —including suffragettes, trade union activists, and socialists — were excluded from the all-male Irish National Volunteers. Although historians of the Irish independence era tend to focus on the activities of the Irish Republican Army (IRA) and the political party Sinn Féin, the contributions of Cumann na mBan activists are well-documented. Cumann na mBan, an independent organization of the Irish Republican Movement, was actively involved in the 1916 Easter Rising, the Irish War of Independence (1919-22), and the Irish Civil War (1922-23), and at least nine members were killed in these years.


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    #61
    marlin vs
    Registered Users Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭marlin vs


    hardybuck wrote: »
    but I really do have to question the decision of the Council to name the road after an organisation that is a proscribed organisation under the UK's Terrorism Act.
    What's the UK's Terrorism Act got to do with our country especially a country that has terrorised the world for centuries and remember the Great British Empire is after crumbling. Troll.


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