What is the story with the roads in Waterford City?

BBM77

Does anybody know what the story with the state of a lot of roads around the city is? There are places it is just shocking. Not going to start giving examples, everybody will have their own examples. I do a lot of cycling and there are places it is actually starting to get dangerous to cycle. Thought the plan is to make the city safer for cyclist and to encourage it.

Hate having to criticise Waterford City and County Council as they are doing fantastic work progressing the redevelopment of the north quays at the moment. And some roads have been done lately. But come on it makes the place look uncared for not to mention the safety concerns. Every year there is €x00,000 given to the city for the up keep of the roads, where is it going? Not on the roads anyway!

Wanderer2010

Depends on where you are from in Waterford, really. Its possible you could happily go about your life, travel to and from work or college or town and not encounter any particularly bad roads. Other people could destroy their cars on broken speed bumps or potholes within 2 minutes of their trip to work!

Id like to think there is a special place in hell for the person who wont fix that first speed bump as you are going up Castle Street from the Manor- FFS you absolutely cant avoid it if there is traffic coming down that road and I have fcuked up my tires on more than 1 occasion going up there. :mad::mad::mad:

Harry Palmr

Yep they are in terrible state (did a thread about this last year).

iseegirls

Best thing to do is take a picture, put it on twitter, tag whatever your local councillor is, or those looking to run in the upcoming elections. You'd normally get a response in no time. Posting it on boards, although good to talk about it, won't help it being fixed.

Harry Palmr

I've been promising myself that I'd do something like that. John's Street is appalling now, quite dangerous as cars naturally try to dodge the big hollows in the middle of the road.

RubyK

The road condition on the Manor, heading into the City, opposite Edmund Rice centre is terrible. Road is partially sunken. I reported it on the CC website. Got the "it will be done in due course" reply. Also, on Bunkers Hill, by the Hennessys Road junction, they spent weeks working there, diversions etc, yet they couldn't fill in the moon like surface of a road.

mooseknunkle

RubyK wrote: »

The road condition on the Manor, heading into the City, opposite Edmund Rice centre is terrible. Road is partially sunken. I reported it on the CC website. Got the "it will be done in due course" reply. Also, on Bunkers Hill, by the Hennessys Road junction, they spent weeks working there, diversions etc, yet they couldn't fill in the moon like surface of a road.

They are working on Bunkers hill at the moment,its going to be one way up the hill and from barracks st down towards the post office and then one way down convent hill.

Harry Palmr

Slightly OT - how long has that leak of water been running down Bunkers Hill from that empty site at the top on the left? It seems to have been trickling away for a year at least

MartyMcFly84

Have you written to the council? Waterford council have area on their site where you can make complaints, ask questions or point out issues like dumping, dangerous pot holes etc.

I wrote to them about bad potholes near Jack Meades and it was repaired in about 2 weeks. Only the worst pothole was filled but as least it was something.

RubyK

MartyMcFly84 wrote: »

Have you written to the council? Waterford council have area on their site where you can make complaints, ask questions or point out issues like dumping, dangerous pot holes etc.

I wrote to them about bad potholes near Jack Meades and it was repaired in about 2 weeks. Only the worst pothole was filled but as least it was something.

Yes, I've sent a couple of messages via their website, and got the automatic reply ".... and will be dealt with as soon possible"

Hopefully sooner rather than later, that sunken road is pretty bad on the Manor, especially if you are turning right at the lights to go up Johnstown, as you can't avoid it if there is traffic to your left.

south

RubyK wrote: »

Yes, I've sent a couple of messages via their website, and got the automatic reply ".... and will be dealt with as soon possible"

Hopefully sooner rather than later, that sunken road is pretty bad on the Manor, especially if you are turning right at the lights to go up Johnstown, as you can't avoid it if there is traffic to your left.

There plans to resurface the road from the lights to the bridge at some stage this year.

200motels

The Dunmore Road is getting bad in places, Passage Road is awful so is William St, the Mayors Walk is like the moon and so on. The best thing to do like I have is I haven’t paid motor tax in protest and they can fine me all they like.

Wanderer78

200motels wrote:

The Dunmore Road is getting bad in places, Passage Road is awful so is William St, the Mayors Walk is like the moon and so on. The best thing to do like I have is I haven’t paid motor tax in protest and they can fine me all they like.

Unfortunately it would probably take a vast amount of people to do so, in order to have an effect, it may just mean you get penalised

Max Powers

200motels wrote: »

The Dunmore Road is getting bad in places, Passage Road is awful so is William St, the Mayors Walk is like the moon and so on. The best thing to do like I have is I haven’t paid motor tax in protest and they can fine me all they like.

Congratulations, stupid comment of the week and it's only Monday.

hardybuck

Road Tax does not get ringfenced for roads. It is tax which goes into the Exchequer. If you don't pay it you'll have your car seized by the Gardai, who won't release it until you pay what you owe.

The roads on Lombard Street and up towards park road are like the surface of the moon, and it's a shame how many visitors see this very run down street as one of the first and last things they see as they enter and exit Waterford.

200motels

Max Powers wrote: »

Congratulations, stupid comment of the week and it's only Monday.

@ing smart arse comment, c!!ts, c!!!s everywhere.

mooseknunkle

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Slightly OT - how long has that leak of water been running down Bunkers Hill from that empty site at the top on the left? It seems to have been trickling away for a year at least

30 years more like :eek:

https://waterford-news.ie/2020/01/07/bunkers-hill-leak-to-be-addressed/?fbclid=IwAR0NVwizj2e_5jpSbH-yBr60idtnby0QXNAJscM1NscikVpKEXBCQbnBHb0

Harry Palmr

That's mad. I did wonder if it was a spring.

friendlyfun

Apparently the leak going down Bunkers hill has been happening for 30 years!!!

DLS_75

mooseknunkle wrote: »

30 years more like :eek:

https://waterford-news.ie/2020/01/07/bunkers-hill-leak-to-be-addressed/?fbclid=IwAR0NVwizj2e_5jpSbH-yBr60idtnby0QXNAJscM1NscikVpKEXBCQbnBHb0

I actually think it’s longer than that. I can remember walking home from school and seeing it, and that was definitely more than 30 years ago. It’s actually hard to believe that nothing has been done about it.

Muttley79

Just drove through Waterford today,every manhole cover is after sinking and every channel dug up for piping has sunk as well.its desperate

Harry Palmr

The Quay is just incredible in this regard, two inch drop with every one

05eaftqbrs9jlh

iseegirls wrote: »

Best thing to do is take a picture, put it on twitter, tag whatever your local councillor is, or those looking to run in the upcoming elections. You'd normally get a response in no time. Posting it on boards, although good to talk about it, won't help it being fixed.

www.fixmystreet.ie might work if you report them there although I have had no success through it.

Dexpat

DLS_75 wrote: »

I actually think it’s longer than that. I can remember walking home from school and seeing it, and that was definitely more than 30 years ago. It’s actually hard to believe that nothing has been done about it.

Yeah way more than 30 years. I assumed it was a natural spring or something 😏

Chip Whitley

The road outside Nicky's Bar on the way to Mayor's Walk was always bad, but it is HORRENDOUS of late.

05eaftqbrs9jlh

Got proof today that fixmystreet is only effective if the street is actually completely f'd.

Attached are pictures of a cement mixer which fell into our road last May. Here is the road, after getting driven into again yesterday by an oil truck. Residents blocked in and out! It didn't have to be like this.

aziz

Chip Whitley wrote: »

The road outside Nicky's Bar on the way to Mayor's Walk was always bad, but it is HORRENDOUS of late.

I was at a funeral on Tuesday night that walked along the mayors walk,
Lethal is how I would describe it

mooseknunkle

Chip Whitley wrote: »

The road outside Nicky's Bar on the way to Mayor's Walk was always bad, but it is HORRENDOUS of late.

aziz wrote: »

I was at a funeral on Tuesday night that walked along the mayors walk,
Lethal is how I would describe it

Never thought id see the day!,but roadworks starting on Mayor Walk this evening.

https://www.mapalerter.com/updates/roads/15843-roadworks-on-mayors-walk-monday-20th-jan-1800-hrs

Harry Palmr

Great news just a pity WC has neglected to give a time frame or mention the alternative routes etc if applicable.

aziz

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Great news just a pity WC has neglected to give a time frame or mention the alternative routes etc if applicable.

That would be too handy, driving around town is like a mystery tour some days,
You never know where you might end up.
How long has castle street being closed and still no diversion signs on the manor or convent hill

Hoffmans

Looks like castle street link is nearing completion longest bit of a road construction in history

azimuth17

The job took so long because council has no money and funded the work entirely from its own resources.. The loss of €3.5m from Irish Water rates and its replacement by a one off grant (for this year) of €2m was disgraceful. The impact will be felt far and wide in every discretionary area of council spending, for years. How any one could vote for Fine Gael after this is beyond me. People preening now because North Quays is in FG manifesto, I think people on here might remember a university for Waterford being in the 2011 FG manifesto, That has not appeared.

Harry Palmr

Good news folks, Joe Kelly has announced he is filling the pot holes of Waterford City and County

I dunno if the list is on the Coco website but the following are in the City

Pearce Park
Manor Hill
Ursuline Crescent
Ballytruckle at Kilochan
Grange heights entrance
Polberry at Ozier Park
Oakwood Hillview
St Herblain Park
Grange Park Crescent
Johns Hill
St Lawrence to Pearce Park on Airport rd

BBM77

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Good news folks, Joe Kelly has announced he is filling the pot holes of Waterford City and County

I dunno if the list is on the Coco website but the following are in the City

Pearce Park
Manor Hill
Ursuline Crescent
Ballytruckle at Kilochan
Grange heights entrance
Polberry at Ozier Park
Oakwood Hillview
St Herblain Park
Grange Park Crescent
Johns Hill
St Lawrence to Pearce Park on Airport rd

John's Hill needs more than filling in pots hole. It needs to be completely resurfaced.

Harry Palmr

I was being flippant they are doing more than potholes, they are resurfacing and strengthening.

Harry Palmr

Dunmore Road will have stop go from the 11th, could be a very needed resurfacing job where the top layer has lifted away (whoever did that last job should be made do it again for half price).

reni10

Will cause absolute traffic chaos so they better not start everyday until 10 am and be finished before 4.30pm

I doubt they will though!

BamesJond

Roads are a disaster lately. Assume some damage to the suspension on my car is a result of the horrific roads around the city.

John's hill is a mine field at the minute. Between the road and the council allowing cars park halfway out in the road I'd avoid it if I could but not possible. Should be a one way if they persist with cars being park halfway out on the road.

Understand resurfacing works will be commenced soon in this but apparently only 160 meters up from the traffic lights. Not enough. Tbh it needs resurfacing to the junction at the top of the folly.

Areas of Poleberry are shocking, have actually been avoiding of late.

Roundabouts at hospital both have trenches that have been previously dug out that need refilling.

And for some reason no-one in Waterford seems to be able to build a structurally sound manhole. Every. Single. One. In the town seems to have collapsed. Even the quay, which is a newer road all the manholes have collapsed.

I just don't know why the roads are so bad around the place. Been to some other towns recently and the roads are immaculate. The lack of investment is actually costing us money in the long run with potential damage to cars. Frustrating to say the least.

BBM77

reni10 wrote: »

Will cause absolute traffic chaos so they better not start everyday until 10 am and be finished before 4.30pm

I doubt they will though!

If they turned off the double traffic lights at Island Lane and Powerscourt it would help move traffic away from the area. They are the main reason traffic backs up around there.

reni10

BBM77 wrote: »

If they turned off the double traffic lights at Island Lane and Powerscourt it would help move traffic away from the area. They are the main reason traffic backs up around there.

I agree 100% with these traffic lights causing the vast majority of hold ups!

So much so I have sent the council numerous emails, videos and also spoken on a number of occasions to Councillors about this but nothing ever changes!

The entrance at Powerscourt onto the Dunmore Road should be closed and a new exit and entrance opened to lead onto the Old Ballinakill road with a roundabout there so the residents can get out easily.

Then a the junction of Old Ballinakill Road and Dunmore Road there needs to be a roundabout put in there too and remove the traffic lights.

Doing both these fairly simple things would increase traffic flow immediately and should have been done years ago!

BBM77

reni10 wrote: »

I agree 100% with these traffic lights causing the vast majority of hold ups!

So much so I have sent the council numerous emails, videos and also spoken on a number of occasions to Councillors about this but nothing ever changes!

The entrance at Powerscourt onto the Dunmore Road should be closed and a new exit and entrance opened to lead onto the Old Ballinakill road with a roundabout there so the residents can get out easily.

Then a the junction of Old Ballinakill Road and Dunmore Road there needs to be a roundabout put in there too and remove the traffic lights.

Doing both these fairly simple things would increase traffic flow immediately and should have been done years ago!

Fair play. Something certainly needs to be done there alright. I heard a councillor say last year that everything has been tried to improve traffic flow along the Dunmore road. I am driving and cycling along there a long time now and nothing has been done other than some pedestrian crossings added. The council seem to be hung up on this extension to the outer ring road. Which is not going to solve the problem really.

As you say some simple changes would make a big difference. Like up at the traffic lights at the Marian takeaway. Only minor changes were made there and there has been a huge improvement in traffic flow, specially coming down the Upper Yellow Road.

I know it is controversial but widening the road at Viewmount needs to be looked at again. Having two lanes up to the roundabout at Ardkeen would help a lot to.

Harry Palmr

The council seem to be hung up on this extension to the outer ring road. Which is not going to solve the problem really.

Which extension?

Also that roadside parcel of land at Ballinakill/Dunmore road was sold for housing so the traffic flow exiting will only get worse.

hardybuck

BBM77 wrote: »

Fair play. Something certainly needs to be done there alright. I heard a councillor say last year that everything has been tried to improve traffic flow along the Dunmore road. I am driving and cycling along there a long time now and nothing has been done other than some pedestrian crossings added. The council seem to be hung up on this extension to the outer ring road. Which is not going to solve the problem really.

As you say some simple changes would make a big difference. Like up at the traffic lights at the Marian takeaway. Only minor changes were made there and there has been a huge improvement in traffic flow, specially coming down the Upper Yellow Road.

I know it is controversial but widening the road at Viewmount needs to be looked at again. Having two lanes up to the roundabout at Ardkeen would help a lot to.

By 'everything has been tried' I assume they mean a couple of things have been tried.

A ban on new construction outside of the ring road for the next couple of years at least would help mitigate further congestion on the Dunmore Road. Widening the road at Viewmount would be pointless unless it was part of a broader widening effort - which should be looked at to provide for dedicated bus and cycle lanes IMO.

There is significant room to do so to between Knockboy and Ardkeen through a combination of utilising existing margins and CPO of green areas to the front of Viewmount, Earlscourt etc. The Cove down to Newtown is a bit more tricky as you're looking at taking land from front gardens like they'll be doing in Dublin shortly, but this is ultimately necessary to improve journey times on public transport and to provide for population growth.

Looking at this, the decision by the Council to spend so much time and money reducing capacity on the Quays was frustrating then and even more frustrating now. When our capital city will be pumping money into widening roads to provide dedicated bus and cycle lanes, Waterford has actually spent a fortune going in the opposite direction.

BBM77

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Which extension?

Also that roadside parcel of land at Ballinakill/Dunmore road was sold for housing so the traffic flow exiting will only get worse.

It was no concrete plan. Heard councillors talk about it from time to time. Having a new road from passage cross to the existing outer ring road. Does not even make sense.

Harry Palmr

It would make sense as part of a southern by pass.

hardybuck

Harry Palmr wrote: »

It would make sense as part of a southern by pass.

A by pass to a ring road.

All you're doing is loosening the belt on the waist that's expanding. A better approach is to tackle the issue by increasing usage of public transport.

Harry Palmr

Waterford is slightly fecked up by the fact it nearly has an encircling by pass/ring road - the ring needs to be completed going across to Belview. Won't ever happen of course.

hardybuck

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Waterford is slightly fecked up by the fact it nearly has an encircling by pass/ring road - the ring needs to be completed going across to Belview. Won't ever happen of course.

Would agree on the need for belview, but do feel it could happen in the future.

Harry Palmr

Polberry being resurfaced - quieter lives for those who live along there who have been listening to thunk/clunk sounds outside the front window for years.

Jamie2k9

They need to fix the pothole on approach to Tramore roundabout from Cork road by the RSC.

Harry Palmr

Tramore Road outside Smiths and Lidl entrance fixed. Hopefully that's the "thunk" pulling out of Lidl/Woodies gone for good!