Coronavirus Pandemic Information- Local and Worldwide

Buford T. Justice XIX · 28-03-2020 11:26am

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Yep. Antibody testing is key in getting out of this lockdown. It’ll give the final answer on the virus.
People will be certified as carrying the antibodies and will carry some kind of ID that can be electronically read.
RFID to be used on humans...?

Be very handy for calf feeders and FTY in parlours, never go hungry again:D

yosemitesam1 · 28-03-2020 11:28am

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Yep. Antibody testing is key in getting out of this lockdown. It’ll give the final answer on the virus.
People will be certified as carrying the antibodies and will carry some kind of ID that can be electronically read.
RFID to be used on humans...?

Nothing would surprise me at this stage. But I think that it will be found that the virus was much more widespread than the official figures suggest.

This is worth a watch.
https://youtu.be/p_AyuhbnPOI

Reggie. · 28-03-2020 11:47am

whelan2 wrote: »

How will cyclists cope now? 2km loops?

Looked out of the house this morning to a group tipping down the road

K.G. · 28-03-2020 11:54am

Reggie. wrote: »

Looked out of the house this morning to a group tipping down the road

Ah cyclists are exempt from all laws

visatorro · 28-03-2020 1:29pm

are couriers still operating? I wouldn't imagine so even if you could guarantee no contact

emaherx · 28-03-2020 1:35pm

visatorro wrote: »

are couriers still operating? I wouldn't imagine so even if you could guarantee no contact

Couriers and post still operating. They are an essential service.

carrollsno1 · 28-03-2020 1:52pm

corkgal_89 wrote: »

Thankfully I was able to get on the 7am train (no questions asked) and am home now.. will be locking myself indoors for the next 2 weeks anyway just to be safe!

O
Main problem with most of us stranded here at the minute is is that domestic travel is banned during the lockdown so similar to Ireland theres one main hub in the country and if youre outside of it well good luck to you.

whelan2 · 28-03-2020 1:57pm

Ordered my prescription yesterday and my parent's ones. Went to pharmacy this morning. Only 1 person allowed in at a time. Queue of about 4 people outside. No hassle. This us the new norm

yosemitesam1 · 28-03-2020 2:08pm

https://www.rte.ie/amp/1126956/

List of essential business, farm supply limited to call out/delivery whatever that means?

the hedgeman · 28-03-2020 2:15pm

yosemitesam1 wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/amp/1126956/

List of essential business, farm supply limited to call out/delivery whatever that means?

It also said animal feed stores essential outlets to stay open

Reggie. · 28-03-2020 2:22pm

the hedgeman wrote: »

It also said animal feed stores essential outlets to stay open

Bit of read between the lines there

Buford T. Justice XIX · 28-03-2020 2:27pm

Men are more likely to catch this, more likely to end up in hospital, more likely to need treatment in ICU and more likely to die.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/03/26/men-are-getting-sicker-dying-more-often-covid-19-spain-data-shows/

Reggie. · 28-03-2020 2:30pm

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

Men are more likely to catch this, more likely to end up in hospital, more likely to need treatment in ICU and more likely to die.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/03/26/men-are-getting-sicker-dying-more-often-covid-19-spain-data-shows/

Still waiting for the silver lining there

the hedgeman · 28-03-2020 2:32pm

Reggie. wrote: »

Bit of read between the lines there

It's open to interpretation what ever way you look at it

whelan2 · 28-03-2020 2:32pm

Was talking to my neighbour today. She's carer for her parents. The mother goes to centra every Saturday morning religiously. She's not allowed to go today. Neighbour said it's like a child having a tantrum. I said I'd go for her or they are now doing a delivery service. It's very hard for some elderly people to realise they have to stay home for their own good.

tabby aspreme · 28-03-2020 3:05pm

Gawddawggonnit wrote: »

Cycling will be banned in a week and the 2km ‘exercising’ distance will be brought down to 1km or 500m.

Horse riding will be banned also.

Don’t ask me how I know...

Seen a lad yesterday running in a field of winter corn, he was following the tram lines, better than running in circles around the headland I suppose

Reggie. · 28-03-2020 3:07pm

tabby aspreme wrote: »

Seen a lad yesterday running in a field of winter corn, he was following the tram lines, better than running in circles around the headland I suppose

Great way to damage an ankle. I know

whelan2 · 28-03-2020 7:18pm

14 new deaths. Average age of these deaths 81 years of age

Hard Knocks · 28-03-2020 8:01pm

whelan2 wrote: »

14 new deaths. Average age of these deaths 81 years of age

See that and average age of today’s confirmed infected 46
God help all those families

BENDYBINN · 28-03-2020 8:09pm

Anyone know why they’re calling it the median age instead of average?

emaherx · 28-03-2020 8:24pm

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Anyone know why they’re calling it the median age instead of average?

Because they are giving the median age and not an average which is different.

Are you asking why they call it the median or why are the giving the median instead of average?

Buford T. Justice XIX · 28-03-2020 8:27pm

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Anyone know why they’re calling it the median age instead of average?

Median would be the most common grouping of a sample. They're more or less telling us the deaths were from a nursing home predominately.

BENDYBINN · 28-03-2020 8:38pm

Median and average can be very different.

emaherx · 28-03-2020 8:45pm

BENDYBINN wrote: »

Median and average can be very different.

Yes,
If there were 5 deaths a new born and the rest aged 70, 76, 79 and 80 then the median would be 76 but the average closer to 60 the one very young anomaly would massively influence the average but have little effect on the median

_Brian · 28-03-2020 9:01pm

I’m not sure interesting is the word to use in this case, maybe relevant.

People in their 80’s often wouldn’t even be ventilated with “ordinary” flu in Ireland.

whelan2 · 28-03-2020 9:16pm

Daughter got a letter from the local shop were she works in case she's stopped on the way to work. It's 500m up the road, chances of being stopped would be fairly slim

28-03-2020 9:20pm

_Brian wrote: »

I’m not sure interesting is the word to use in this case, maybe relevant.

People in their 80’s often wouldn’t even be ventilated with “ordinary” flu in Ireland.

Would they for pneumonia though??

greysides · 28-03-2020 9:38pm

Not wearing masks to protect against coronavirus is a ‘big mistake,’ top Chinese scientist says

Water John · 28-03-2020 9:39pm

The patient's best interest would be the only criterion for decision on medical intervention. The problem that may be coming is that the decision will revolve around the limited access of the equipment.

_Brian · 28-03-2020 10:01pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Would they for pneumonia though??

Often not, often in the 80’s it’s just not done, many just would have DNR agreements from the family.

I kinda never thought of it until herself was saying it.

Often people in their 80’’s with DNR’s wouldn’t even come into hospital if they had pneumonia. If they were in a nursing home for example they would be made comfortable there. It would depend on overall health though. But typically those in nursing homes are already unwell and that’s why they are there if that makes sense.

These are the people who might die from flu in an ordinary year anyway.

whelan2 · 28-03-2020 10:05pm

I think the big point to get across is dont get sick at the moment

BENDYBINN · 28-03-2020 10:11pm

whelan2 wrote: »

I think the big point to get across is dont get sick at the moment

Don’t even get a toothache!

Reggie. · 28-03-2020 10:13pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Daughter got a letter from the local shop were she works in case she's stopped on the way to work. It's 500m up the road, chances of being stopped would be fairly slim

The small one at the cross

Buford T. Justice XIX · 28-03-2020 10:37pm

A list of essential workers from the Government.

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/dfeb8f-list-of-essential-service-providers-under-new-public-health-guidelin/

whelan2 · 28-03-2020 10:51pm

52000 new cases in new York today :eek:

emaherx · 28-03-2020 11:13pm

whelan2 wrote: »

52000 new cases in new York today :eek:

52,000 cases total confirmed to date.

Injuryprone · 28-03-2020 11:47pm

What's the current status of farmers that are over 70? What will happen when they are stopped on the road going to an outfarm or collecting a few supplies?

28-03-2020 11:56pm

Injuryprone wrote: »

What's the current status of farmers that are over 70? What will happen when they are stopped on the road going to an outfarm or collecting a few supplies?

Your allowed out for farm purposes

Though 2 ould lads in lane from me,are staying in as much as possible,seen 1 niece in feeding calves for one....i looked at a cow calving for the other (both are outside farms,so noone living there)

alps · 29-03-2020 12:36am

Injuryprone wrote: »

What's the current status of farmers that are over 70? What will happen when they are stopped on the road going to an outfarm or collecting a few supplies?

The over 70's really really need to stay isolated....its a responsibility of society, their families and neighbours to stand up to the plate and cover for them...whatever about an outfarm...ffs don't let any over 70 neighbour of your go for supplies..

_Brian · 29-03-2020 10:37am

Third world countries are going to be decimated by this.

Looking at photos from Mumbai yesterday and it’s just shoulder to shoulder stuff still.

Read an article about a township in SA amd locals are just ignoring the rules. The journalist asked one guy why he was sitting in the street drinking beer, he said he was better there because he lives in just one room with five other adults !

Then there’s USA, the richest third world country in the world. They are just a basket case. I think trump wants to open everything and just burn through the infection in a really short time, accept the collateral damage in deaths and then get the economy back on track so he has something to crow about at election time.

jaymla627 · 29-03-2020 10:49am

_Brian wrote: »

Third world countries are going to be decimated by this.

Looking at photos from Mumbai yesterday and it’s just shoulder to shoulder stuff still.

Read an article about a township in SA amd locals are just ignoring the rules. The journalist asked one guy why he was sitting in the street drinking beer, he said he was better there because he lives in just one room with five other adults !

Then there’s USA, the richest third world country in the world. They are just a basket case. I think trump wants to open everything and just burn through the infection in a really short time, accept the collateral damage in deaths and then get the economy back on track so he has something to crow about at election time.

I don’t think it will affect 3rd world countries as bad re death rates then 1st world countries, overweight and obese people account for over 60% of people that need icu treatment due to coronavirus not a problem in the likes of Ethiopia our South Africa, population age is much lower to.....
Modern health care systems in first world countries ability to keep older people alive with serious underlying health issues for years combined with a huge % of populations been overweight and obese is
presenting the perfect breeding ground for the virus and it’s severity on counties like Italy and Spain

Mooooo · 29-03-2020 10:49am

_Brian wrote: »

Third world countries are going to be decimated by this.

Looking at photos from Mumbai yesterday and it’s just shoulder to shoulder stuff still.

Read an article about a township in SA amd locals are just ignoring the rules. The journalist asked one guy why he was sitting in the street drinking beer, he said he was better there because he lives in just one room with five other adults !

Then there’s USA, the richest third world country in the world. They are just a basket case. I think trump wants to open everything and just burn through the infection in a really short time, accept the collateral damage in deaths and then get the economy back on track so he has something to crow about at election time.

It may be a case in some third world countries those with underlying issues may be gone anyway as healthcare is poor so deaths from covid 19 may not be a massive increase or perhaps effect those in higher classes more. Hard to know really.

_Brian · 29-03-2020 10:51am

jaymla627 wrote: »

I don’t think it will affect 3rd world countries as bad re death rates then 1st world countries, overweight and obese people account for over 60% of people that need icu treatment due to coronavirus not a problem in the likes of Ethiopia our South Africa, population age is much lower to.....
Modern health care systems in first world countries ability to keep older people alive with serious underlying health issues for years combined with a huge % of populations been overweight and obese is
presenting the perfect breeding ground for the virus and it’s severity on counties like Italy and Spain

Agree on the obeasity point.
But a much higher number of malnourished and so immune compromised people.
Close living and poor adherence to isolation will have a tsunami of critical patients which will result in desperate death rates.

yosemitesam1 · 29-03-2020 10:51am

_Brian wrote: »

Third world countries are going to be decimated by this.

Looking at photos from Mumbai yesterday and it’s just shoulder to shoulder stuff still.

Read an article about a township in SA amd locals are just ignoring the rules. The journalist asked one guy why he was sitting in the street drinking beer, he said he was better there because he lives in just one room with five other adults !

Then there’s USA, the richest third world country in the world. They are just a basket case. I think trump wants to open everything and just burn through the infection in a really short time, accept the collateral damage in deaths and then get the economy back on track so he has something to crow about at election time.

Trump could be right, there's no proof that the who is right. All the testing is focused on the most serious cases

_Brian · 29-03-2020 10:59am

yosemitesam1 wrote: »

Trump could be right, there's no proof that the who is right. All the testing is focused on the most serious cases

Letting thousands die to protect the economy?
Do you seriously think that could be the right approach?

Surely No sane person seriously thinks like that.

yosemitesam1 · 29-03-2020 11:09am

_Brian wrote: »

Letting thousands die to protect the economy?
Do you seriously think that could be the right approach?

Surely No sane person seriously thinks like that.

There is no solid proof that the virus is as deadly as made out to be across the population. At this point in time no efforts have been made to survey the percentage of the population that have already contracted the virus with little to know symptoms.
The testing is unreliable and deaths reported are deaths with coronavirus. Until we get antibody sampling across the population, there remains a significant potential for this reaction to have been the biggest fcukup in history

emaherx · 29-03-2020 11:35am

yosemitesam1 wrote: »

There is no solid proof that the virus is as deadly as made out to be across the population. At this point in time no efforts have been made to survey the percentage of the population that have already contracted the virus with little to know symptoms.
The testing is unreliable and deaths reported are deaths with coronavirus. Until we get antibody sampling across the population, there remains a significant potential for this reaction to have been the biggest fcukup in history

Proof?
Have you seen the news?
Italy?
Spain?
Death toll rising here?
Overwhelmed health services worldwide?

jaymla627 · 29-03-2020 11:54am

emaherx wrote: »

Proof?
Have you seen the news?
Italy?
Spain?
Death toll rising here?
Overwhelmed health services worldwide?

Re health services their was never any extra capacity in the system to deal with an event like this, the mass hysteria of social media ramps it up too with politicians and senior civil servants terrified to act decisively and quickly enough to of put in place travel bans months ago and locked down borders like what was needed.....
If this virus had originated in Africa and was largely confined to their with a similar death toll and infection rate as of today 1st world governments and their populations wouldn’t be batting a eyelid, but now it’s on our doorstep and effecting us it’s a doomsday scenario.....
The likes of dengue fever/malaria and tb kill in the millions yearly without fail but as it’s largely a third world problem the 1st world carries on as normal

_Brian · 29-03-2020 12:02pm

yosemitesam1 wrote: »

There is no solid proof that the virus is as deadly as made out to be across the population. At this point in time no efforts have been made to survey the percentage of the population that have already contracted the virus with little to know symptoms.
The testing is unreliable and deaths reported are deaths with coronavirus. Until we get antibody sampling across the population, there remains a significant potential for this reaction to have been the biggest fcukup in history

Ok.
This doesn’t really merit a reply.

It’s people minimising and talking down the effect that undo all the good work being done by everyone else.

emaherx · 29-03-2020 12:16pm

jaymla627 wrote: »

Re health services their was never any extra capacity in the system to deal with an event like this, the mass hysteria of social media ramps it up too with politicians and senior civil servants terrified to act decisively and quickly enough to of put in place travel bans months ago and locked down borders like what was needed.....
If this virus had originated in Africa and was largely confined to their with a similar death toll and infection rate as of today 1st world governments and their populations wouldn’t be batting a eyelid, but now it’s on our doorstep and effecting us it’s a doomsday scenario.....
The likes of dengue fever/malaria and tb kill in the millions yearly without fail but as it’s largely a third world problem the 1st world carries on as normal

Not sure what your point is here?
But mass hysteria fueled by social media, what a load of BS. It's a very really issue that is here and now not Ebola in some third world country.
I don't know about you but I've become quite attached to some of people who may well be wiped out by this disease.

No health system anywhere was built to cope with an event of this scale.

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