The Great Reset

sydthebeat · 07-10-2020 12:19pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

The conspiracy, according to what I've read, is that COVID-19 is being used a cover for ushering in a techno tyranny and sustainability on steroids. ?

ah yes... the great hulking world threat that is "sustainability"

surely an ethos to save the planet is the one thats definitely gonna destroy it.....

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

King Mob · 07-10-2020 12:23pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

He quoted from greatreset.com.

Yes? And?
People can dishonestly misrepresent things.
We've been through this.

Please quote where the WEF has said they are going to restrict flying.
Exact words please.

Dionaibh · 07-10-2020 12:31pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

No they won't

They will encourage less coal burning, newer/cleaner electric cars, less dependency on fossil fuels, more solar power, nuclear power.

No one is trying to stop you from going on your two weeks a year to Lanzerote.

Okay, thanks.

Dionaibh · 07-10-2020 12:32pm

sydthebeat wrote: »

ah yes... the great hulking world threat that is "sustainability"

surely an ethos to save the planet is the one thats definitely gonna destroy it.....

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

It may not be as nice as it sounds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzEEgtOFFlM

07-10-2020 12:33pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

He quoted from greatreset.com.

As pointed out, the website was created by a group of people who describe themselves as "We are a network of advertising insiders working together to reshape our industry to tackle climate change."... So doesn't even relate to the WEF.

Dionaibh · 07-10-2020 12:34pm

King Mob wrote: »

Yes? And?
People can dishonestly misrepresent things.
We've been through this.

Please quote where the WEF has said they are going to restrict flying.
Exact words please.

I never said, nor did Dave Cullen say, that they would restrict flying. I don't know how else to interpret "as if we were still living in lockdown" but as a continuation of distancing, reduced flying, less eating of meat, fewer cars on the road. If it's all voluntary then that's okay, but my fear is that it might not be.

Dionaibh · 07-10-2020 12:34pm

Deleted User wrote: »

As pointed out, the website was created by "We are a network of advertising insiders working together to reshape our industry to tackle climate change."... So doesn't even relate to the WEF.

But WEF is behind the Great Reset. Isn't it just that they got that network to create the website?

landofthetree · 07-10-2020 12:37pm

So basically evil financial people run the world.

They are going to force governments to default so the bonds they sold to them will be worthless.

07-10-2020 12:38pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

But WEF is behind the Great Reset. Isn't it just that they got that network to create the website?

Nope, the group are a grassroots organisation if you did some reading rather than what a blog tells you to believe.

Dionaibh · 07-10-2020 12:39pm

And I read this morning that Commonpass, backed by WEF and the Rockefeller Foundation, is set to be trialled: https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20201006006152/en/CommonPass-Digital-Health-Pass-Global-Trust-Framework

Dionaibh · 07-10-2020 12:40pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Nope, the group are a grassroots organisation if you did some reading rather than what a blog tells you to believe.

Yes, but WEF is behind the Great Reset. The site still promotes the Great Reset. Does it matter who created it?

07-10-2020 12:40pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

And I read this morning that Commonpass, backed by WEF and the Rockefeller Foundation, is set to be trialled: https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20201006006152/en/CommonPass-Digital-Health-Pass-Global-Trust-Framework

So now you're citing things that would reenable air travel?

Dionaibh wrote: »

Yes, but WEF is behind the Great Reset. The site still promotes the Great Reset. Does it matter who created it?

It very much matters if the blogs you're relying on are citing it as proof of anything. Claiming a grassroots group is the WEF..

Dionaibh · 07-10-2020 12:46pm

Deleted User wrote: »

So now you're citing things that would reenable air travel?

It very much matters if the blogs you're relying on are citing it as proof of anything. Claiming a grassroots group is the WEF..

I find the idea of a health passport frightening. It reminds me of the social credit system in China.

But no one is claiming the grassroots group is the WEF. The WEF is behind the Great Reset and there is now a website for the Great Reset. It doesn't matter who created it.

07-10-2020 12:50pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

I find the idea of a health passport frightening. It reminds me of the social credit system in China.

But no one is claiming the grassroots group is the WEF. The WEF is behind the Great Reset and there is now a website for the Great Reset. It doesn't matter who created it.

It very much matters, I can setup a website with the same name and a different domain code saying something entirely different. Anyone can setup a website and its existence is pretty meaningless.

In terms of health checks, there's already certain countries you cannot enter without certain vaccines, the reality is we should try to actively prevent pandemics from spreading.

King Mob · 07-10-2020 12:58pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

If it's all voluntary then that's okay, but my fear is that it might not be.

Ok. Why do you fear that?
Where have they said that it won't be voluntary?

Why do you think they will restrict travel and how will they do it?
Where did they say that they would do that that way?
Again exact quotes please.

You are again flip floping between them being open and them being secret.

Dionaibh · 07-10-2020 12:59pm

Deleted User wrote: »

It very much matters, I can setup a website with the same name and a different domain code saying something entirely different. Anyone can setup a website and its existence is pretty meaningless.

In terms of health checks, there's already certain countries you cannot enter without certain vaccines, the reality is we should try to actively prevent pandemics from spreading.

I didn't know that. But on that website they quote WEF and the people involved with the Great reset.

But with all the false positives it means it could be very easy for people to be prevented from doing lots of things even if they're healthy. First it'll be for travel. but don't be surprised if they extend it to other areas of life.

King Mob · 07-10-2020 1:00pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

First it'll be for travel. but don't be surprised if they extend it to other areas of life.

Please quote where the WEF said they would be doing this also.
Again a direct quote is required.

Dionaibh · 07-10-2020 1:07pm

King Mob wrote: »

Ok. Why do you fear that?
Where have they said that it won't be voluntary?

Why do you think they will restrict travel and how will they do it?
Where did they say that they would do that that way?
Again exact quotes please.

You are again flip floping between them being open and them being secret.

I'm reading between the lines. They are saying they want to reduce emissions by 7.6% every year so restricting flying is one way of doing that. Notice that I'm careful to say 'may', 'possibly', 'I fear' and so on. I accept that I may be wrong, but they have said that they want to revamp society and human behaviour, so restricting flying could be something they might do.

I'm not sure how they'd do it. No jab no travel might be one way. A lot of people won't want to get a vaccine, so that might be one way. I don't know whether they'd be able to force airlines to offer fewer flights.

They didn't say it, so I can't quote them, but I'm reading between the lines. If we were to rely on people and organisations saying things directly, then we wouldn't be able to convict people of crimes unless they said they committed the crime. We have to examine evidence and come to conclusions based on the evidence.

King Mob · 07-10-2020 1:16pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

They didn't say it, so I can't quote them,

Great, so they're not planning to do that.
End of conspiracy theory.

Dionaibh wrote: »

but I'm reading between the lines. If we were to rely on people and organisations saying things directly, then we wouldn't be able to convict people of crimes unless they said they committed the crime. We have to examine evidence and come to conclusions based on the evidence.

And you've flipped back to claim they're not being open again. You keep doing this. You seem to not realise how you're contradicting yourself.

You said they were being open, so then they should be open about their plans.
However when you're pressed to show that your claims about their plans are accurate, you retreat and claim that they aren't being open.

This is a very dishonest position you have.

You aren't reading between the lines. You're making things up.

Stop bouncing around, either they are being open or they are not. So which is it? They can't be both.

Dionaibh · 07-10-2020 1:24pm

King Mob wrote: »

Great, so they're not planning to do that.
End of conspiracy theory.

And you've flipped back to claim they're not being open again. You keep doing this. You seem to not realise how you're contradicting yourself.

You said they were being open, so then they should be open about their plans.
However when you're pressed to show that your claims about their plans are accurate, you retreat and claim that they aren't being open.

This is a very dishonest position you have.

You aren't reading between the lines. You're making things up.

Stop bouncing around, either they are being open or they are not. So which is it? They can't be both.

They're being open about resetting the planet, but they are being vague about what they are planning to do. But they are definitely planning to reset the planet. We can guess as to what they plan to do by reading what they have said and drawing our own conclusions.

For example, a health passport such as Common Pass, which is set to be trialled in several countries around the world, could, and I emphasise could, pave the way for a mandatory vaccine, or, if not mandatory, restrictions placed on those who refuse the vaccine.

So they are being open about resetting the planet, but have not said YET what it is they plan to do.

King Mob · 07-10-2020 1:38pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

They're being open about resetting the planet, but they are being vague about what they are planning to do.

But this is the dishonest contradiction you are using to keep your silly conspiracy alive.
It's contradictory.
If they are not being open, why would they be open about "resetting the planet"? Why leave clues for internet cranks to find and figure things out?
Why not say nothing?

They can't be open and closed at the same time.

So which is it?

Dionaibh wrote: »

But they are definitely planning to reset the planet. We can guess as to what they plan to do by reading what they have said and drawing our own conclusions.

But you aren't guessing. You're just accepting random nonsense from internet cranks unquestioningly and then letting you over active imagination run wild.

For example:

Dionaibh wrote: »

For example, a health passport such as Common Pass, which is set to be trialled in several countries around the world, could, and I emphasise could, pave the way for a mandatory vaccine, or, if not mandatory, restrictions placed on those who refuse the vaccine.

Where do they state this?
If they don't, why do you think this is a possibility? What's it based on other than paranoia?

Again, I don't think there is anywhere they said this. Nor do you have any reason for your belief beyond your paranoia and fantasies.

Dionaibh wrote: »

So they are being open about resetting the planet, but have not said YET what it is they plan to do.

And yet you claim that you have a good idea of their plan?:rolleyes:

Dionaibh · 07-10-2020 1:49pm

King Mob wrote: »

But this is the dishonest contradiction you are using to keep your silly conspiracy alive.
It's contradictory.
If they are not being open, why would they be open about "resetting the planet"? Why leave clues for internet cranks to find and figure things out?
Why not say nothing?

They can't be open and closed at the same time.

So which is it?

But you aren't guessing. You're just accepting random nonsense from internet cranks unquestioningly and then letting you over active imagination run wild.

For example:

Where do they state this?
If they don't, why do you think this is a possibility? What's it based on other than paranoia?

Again, I don't think there is anywhere they said this. Nor do you have any reason for your belief beyond your paranoia and fantasies.

And yet you claim that you have a good idea of their plan?:rolleyes:

WEF has for months now been promoting the Great Reset. The head of WEF, Klaus Schwab, co-authored a book entitled 'The Great Reset'. They haven't, beyond vague statements, said what specifically the plan to do because they have postponed the event until September of next year. But expect details to emerge soon. So they are being open about their plan to reset the planet, but they have not yet gone into specifics.

In the video about Health passport Ireland they suggest how the passport could be extended to other areas of life in addition to travel (work, restaurants, hospitals, stadia etc). So it's not to be paranoid to imagine that a Covid health passport could likewise be extended to other areas of life.

"CommonPass will not conduct tests. Instead it aims to to establish standard certifications for COVID-19 test results and, eventually, proof that a passenger has been vaccinated against the virus."

From the following article: https://www.ft.com/content/8d603248-6884-4081-9256-8c5b2f2827ba

Sorry if it's behind a paywall.

Dionaibh · 07-10-2020 1:51pm

We've gone from two weeks to flatten the curve to possibly health passports and a mandatory vaccine in order to travel (and who knows what else). Do people still think this is about a virus?

King Mob · 07-10-2020 1:59pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

WEF has for months ...

Sorry, not interested in more waffle. I asked you some direct questions. Please go back and address them. Thanks.

Not sure why you've dodged them. It's very dishonest that you are doing this again.

Dionaibh wrote: »

Do people still think this is about a virus?

You've not shown anything to suggest otherwise.

07-10-2020 2:06pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

We've gone from two weeks to flatten the curve to possibly health passports and a mandatory vaccine in order to travel (and who knows what else). Do people still think this is about a virus?

Vaccine passports and likes have been considered since day one. Loads of countries won't allow you to fly into them without passing a test.

Dionaibh · 07-10-2020 2:18pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Vaccine passports and likes have been considered since day one. Loads of countries won't allow you to fly into them without passing a test.

An international health passport is being trialled as we speak. Do you think a health passport is a good idea?

King Mob · 07-10-2020 2:22pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

An international health passport is being trialled as we speak. Do you think a health passport is a good idea?

It's a bit hypocritical for you to be asking questions when you are ignoring questions put to you.

But this is typical of conspiracy theorists.

Your conspiracy theory is vague and contradictory. Rather than confront this however you just pretend it isn't true and keep going.

Why do you do this?
How do you process this? You know your theory doesn't make sense and can't stand up to scrutiny. You know your theory is self contradictory. You know you have to rely on the authority of rando youtube cranks. You know you're ignoring difficult points.

So knowing all of this, why do you subscribe to your conspiracy theory?

07-10-2020 2:22pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

An international health passport is being trialled as we speak. Do you think a health passport is a good idea?

I have no problems with the concept as long as stringent safe guards are in place. The reality is, quarantining when you travel could be the norm for the next 3 years otherwise.

Dionaibh · 07-10-2020 2:30pm

King Mob wrote: »

It's a bit hypocritical for you to be asking questions when you are ignoring questions put to you.

But this is typical of conspiracy theorists.

Your conspiracy theory is vague and contradictory. Rather than confront this however you just pretend it isn't true and keep going.

Why do you do this?
How do you process this? You know your theory doesn't make sense and can't stand up to scrutiny. You know your theory is self contradictory. You know you have to rely on the authority of rando youtube cranks. You know you're ignoring difficult points.

So knowing all of this, why do you subscribe to your conspiracy theory?

But every time I answer the questions, or try to, you ask me more questions about my answers to the questions. It's hard to keep up with the questions.

How is WEF saying they're going to reset the planet, WEF and the Rockefeller Foundation launching a health passport, and the possibility of a mandatory vaccine, as indicated in the FT article, a conspiracy theory? There's no secret knowledge here. It's all happening. The only thing I don't know, because WEF has yet to talk about it, is what the Great Reset is going to consist of. And my sources aren't YouTube videos. I've read about the Great Reset on WEF's own website and on thegreatreset.com. I've also read articles and blog posts which quote Klaus Schwab and from the book he co-authored entitled 'The Great Reset'.

My hypothesis is that the Great Reset may be about crushing freedom and making the new normal permanent. The evidence, but not proof, I have for my hypothesis is the WEF saying that we need to continue to live as though we were still in lockdown. That suggests to me, but isn't proof, that they want to restrict our movements, our carbon footprint, and control how we live.

Dionaibh · 07-10-2020 2:31pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I have no problems with the concept as long as stringent safe guards are in place. The reality is, quarantining when you travel could be the norm for the next 3 years otherwise.

I think the potential downsides are monstrous. It could lead to a social credit system similar to the one in place in China.

07-10-2020 2:33pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

I think the potential downsides are monstrous. It could lead to a social credit system similar to the one in place in China.

That's a big leap. Do you think you should have the right to travel a country without being tested or being vaccinated (when one becomes available)? It's a pretty reasonable expectation to verify these in some way with a virus that has crashed the global economy.

King Mob · 07-10-2020 2:35pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

But every time I answer the questions, or try to, you ask me more questions about my answers to the questions. It's hard to keep up with the questions.

That doesn't really excuse you ignoring them.
And I only ask more questions because you answers often make even less sense of your conspiracy and beg more questions.

Dionaibh wrote: »

How is WEF saying they're going to reset the planet, WEF and the Rockefeller Foundation l....
Waffle

Still ignoring the questions I asked.

This is because your theory is utter empty nonsense. You know it's utter empty nonsense.
Why do you believe it when you know it's completely hollow and silly?

07-10-2020 2:36pm

Also the theory is all over the place. Incorporating vaccine passports into it when they don't relate in slightest to the climate...

Dionaibh · 07-10-2020 2:41pm

King Mob wrote: »

That doesn't really excuse you ignoring them.
And I only ask more questions because you answers often make even less sense of your conspiracy and beg more questions.

Still ignoring the questions I asked.

This is because your theory is utter empty nonsense. You know it's utter empty nonsense.
Why do you believe it when you know it's completely hollow and silly?

But King Mob, you're asking me for quotes, and I admit that I can't quote the people behind the Great Reset because they haven't said what their specific plans are. They've offered vague statements about a new social and economic model, but they will offer specifics closer to September of next year. Or maybe they'll announce everything during the get together itself.

I didn't mean to ignore your questions, but I can't answer questions about quotes or proof because I have admitted that I have neither. But I do think there is definitely a lot of evidence.

I don't think it's nonsense. On the health passport, all I'm saying is that it could be extended to all areas of life, which is what they say in the video about the Irish health passport. If the Irish one could be extended to other areas of life then the Covid one could be as well, and eventually the international one, which is currently being trialled.

Dionaibh · 07-10-2020 2:41pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Also the theory is all over the place. Incorporating vaccine passports into it when they don't relate in slightest to the climate...

Yes, sorry, you're right. But they're all connected. There's a lot to all of this.

King Mob · 07-10-2020 2:42pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Also the theory is all over the place. Incorporating vaccine passports into it when they don't relate in slightest to the climate...

This is because like most conspiracy theorists, he's just throwing in whatever new topic pops up and adding it to the theory.
Doesn't matter if it fits or makes sense. Doesn't matter if it's true
After all, as long as you keep things vague and "just ask questions" then you can fantasise about anything you like.

07-10-2020 2:46pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

Yes, sorry, you're right. But they're all connected. There's a lot to all of this.

Tenuously linking things up. It's also pretty reasonable as a concept, the great reset concept. We need to drastically change our behaviours to combat climate change. That's not nefarious, that's a reality.

4068ac1elhodqr · 07-10-2020 2:52pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

And I read this morning that Commonpass, backed by WEF and the Rockefeller Foundation, is set to be trialled: https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20201006006152/en/CommonPass-Digital-Health-Pass-Global-Trust-Framework

Correct, trials between certain LDN & NYC flights are on going.

Worth noting id2020.org, like CommonPass, is also backed by the Rockerfellers.
The two projects are twins, or the same side of the coin.

I.e. A Blockchain (Cloud-Azure) based global DigitalID system, ideally to be implimented {combination delivery as per it's Patent} at point of vaccine.

id2020.org are also paired with GAVI (the very well funded global vaccine alliance) and Miscrosoft (Azure/Gates).

The Gates MIT funded 'best of class' 'Digital Immunity Certification' (proof of vaccine), and delivered at point of vaccine (only for very final P5+ global candidate) is the new 'nano tech' known as the 'Quantum Dot Tattoo'. A digital identifer by way of embodiment.

Of course, Digital ID's are just one slice of the WEF Great Reset, based upon Blockchain, other sectors include Law, Finance: Social Structures and so on, but there is some cross over from the tenticales for each sector:

https://intelligence.weforum.org/topics/a1Gb00000038qmPEAQ?tab=publications

Again not altogether good, nor bad.

The real issue is with the effects of cramming in <20yrs of future technologies, upon 8bn, all within the next couple of years. WO2020060606 is good example of such a push.
AKA: 'The 4th Great Industrial Reveloution', an immedite shift towards (rather than any natural eveloution towards), all on the back of Wuhan's L4 COVID.

Also please note, FYI: will not respond to any posts from 'King Mob'.

As consider all his never ending questioning postings (10yrs, 16k, 99% all within CT!) of a very poor standard, and unable to process any technical information, nor any detailed technologial factors, and thus is now upon an 'ignore list'.

King Mob · 07-10-2020 2:54pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

But King Mob, you're asking me for quotes, and I admit that I can't quote the people behind the Great Reset because they haven't said what their specific plans are.

No, I asked questions beyond those as well.
You're ignoring them because you don't want to answer them directly.
You don't want to answer them directly because they expose the fact that your conspiracy theory is meaningless empty nonsense.

I know you don't have the quotes.
You don't have the quotes because your claims of them being open about their plans are false, and it doesn't make sense for them to say what they do in the context of a conspiracy.

The reason you are dodging points and questions is because there's only one rational answer you don't want to admit.
Your conspiracy theory isn't true.

Dionaibh wrote: »

I didn't mean to ignore your questions...

And yet, you keep doing so.
I don't buy that you are doing it by accident.

Dionaibh wrote: »

I don't think it's nonsense.

And yet, you keep ignoring points that show it is nonsense.

So you know it's nonsense.
You're just pretending otherwise for some reason.

So why do you believe a theory you know isn't true and is complete nonsense?

King Mob · 07-10-2020 2:56pm

Gianni Scrawny Steroid wrote: »

Also please note, FYI: will not respond to any posts from 'King Mob'.

As consider all his never ending questioning postings (10yrs, 16k, 99% all within CT!) of a very poor standard, and unable to process any technical information, nor any detailed technologial factors, and thus is now upon an 'ignore list'.

lol

So you're just admitting to ignoring difficult questions and points beforehand.
Refreshingly honest.

Dionaibh · 07-10-2020 2:57pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Tenuously linking things up. It's also pretty reasonable as a concept, the great reset concept. We need to drastically change our behaviours to combat climate change. That's not nefarious, that's a reality.

But what changes would you suggest?

Dionaibh · 07-10-2020 2:59pm

King Mob wrote: »

No, I asked questions beyond those as well.
You're ignoring them because you don't want to answer them directly.
You don't want to answer them directly because they expose the fact that your conspiracy theory is meaningless empty nonsense.

I know you don't have the quotes.
You don't have the quotes because your claims of them being open about their plans are false, and it doesn't make sense for them to say what they do in the context of a conspiracy.

The reason you are dodging points and questions is because there's only one rational answer you don't want to admit.
Your conspiracy theory isn't true.

And yet, you keep doing so.
I don't buy that you are doing it by accident.

And yet, you keep ignoring points that show it is nonsense.

So you know it's nonsense.
You're just pretending otherwise for some reason.

So why do you believe a theory you know isn't true and is complete nonsense?

It might well be nonsense, and I hope it is.

King Mob · 07-10-2020 3:06pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

It might well be nonsense, and I hope it is.

It is nonsense.
You don't want to believe it.
You have to constantly ignore questions.
You can't defend any of the "evidence" you provide.
You have to rely on cranks and scam artists.
You can't even keep your theory straight and consistent.

So since we've agreed to all that...
Why do you believe your conspiracy theory?

4068ac1elhodqr · 07-10-2020 3:30pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Tenuously linking things up. It's also pretty reasonable as a concept, the great reset concept. We need to drastically change our behaviours to combat climate change. That's not nefarious, that's a reality.

Agree with this, nail on the head.
But with the exponential rate of global changes soon to be implimented, leaves no space for any discussion, moral or otherwise. In essence a technocracy, governed by the WHO-GAVI/WEF{Davos/Rockerfellers/Bloombergs} etc.

Yes in 20yrs 90% of us will all (naturally) expect to evolve towards life in smart cities, cash won't exist, smoking, drinking, gambling, obesity, emissions, large families all outlawed or penalised.

Remote working VR-haptic feedback AI avatars will be the standard.
Students without schools, each viewed as human capital investment bonds, for the rare few who can secure the opportunity of non-AI work.
Trilions of IOT objects (including human assets) all upon Trace 'n Trace. Nano tech neural-interfacing.
Zero crime yes indeed, but also zero privacy.

When you cram 20yrs, all into the next few years, without public consultation, that's where things get very complicated indeed.

King Mob · 07-10-2020 3:50pm

Gianni Scrawny Steroid wrote: »

Agree with this, nail on the head.
But with the exponential rate of global changes soon to be implimented, leaves no space for any discussion, moral or otherwise. In essence a technocracy, governed by the WHO-GAVI/WEF{Davos/Rockerfellers/Bloombergs} etc.

Yes in 20yrs 90% of us will all (naturally) expect to evolve towards life in smart cities, cash won't exist, smoking, drinking, gambling, obesity, emissions, large families all outlawed or penalised.

Remote working VR-haptic feedback AI avatars will be the standard.
Students without schools, each viewed as human capital investment bonds, for the rare few who can secure the opportunity of non-AI work.
Trilions of IOT objects (including human assets) all upon Trace 'n Trace. Nano tech neural-interfacing.
Zero crime yes indeed, but also zero privacy.

When you cram 20yrs, all into the next few years, without public consultation, that's where things get very complicated indeed.

Gonna assume none of that is stated on the WEF's website and that it's the part of the plan they're keeping super secret...

07-10-2020 3:50pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

But what changes would you suggest?

Reducing air travel, greater use of high speed rail sand upgrading infrastructure. Move to renewable energy forms. But you should know all of this already as they've been actively moving in that direction for years.

Timberrrrrrrr · 07-10-2020 4:01pm

Gianni Scrawny Steroid wrote: »

Agree with this, nail on the head.
But with the exponential rate of global changes soon to be implimented, leaves no space for any discussion, moral or otherwise. In essence a technocracy, governed by the WHO-GAVI/WEF{Davos/Rockerfellers/Bloombergs} etc.

Yes in 20yrs 90% of us will all (naturally) expect to evolve towards life in smart cities, cash won't exist, smoking, drinking, gambling, obesity, emissions, large families all outlawed or penalised.

Remote working VR-haptic feedback AI avatars will be the standard.
Students without schools, each viewed as human capital investment bonds, for the rare few who can secure the opportunity of non-AI work.
Trilions of IOT objects (including human assets) all upon Trace 'n Trace. Nano tech neural-interfacing.
Zero crime yes indeed, but also zero privacy.

When you cram 20yrs, all into the next few years, without public consultation, that's where things get very complicated indeed.

What is this movie called?

In the 70's I was told we would have flying cars and we would holiday on the moon.

Dohnjoe · 07-10-2020 5:18pm

Gianni Scrawny Steroid wrote: »

Yes in 20yrs 90% of us will all (naturally) expect to evolve towards life in smart cities, cash won't exist, smoking, drinking, gambling, obesity, emissions, large families all outlawed or penalised.

Is your opinion and fantasy.

Paranoid and religious people constantly predict doomsday scenarios replete with totalitarian governments using whatever new technology to "enslave" us. I remember all the hysteria over barcodes and CCTV. It's the same recycled alarmism.

Thing is you seem savvy enough not to commit to any of your "prophecies", so i suspect you know it's all nonsense. Which is worse when you think about it.

King Mob · 07-10-2020 5:45pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

What is this movie called?

In the 70's I was told we would have flying cars and we would holiday on the moon.

Back in 2010 conspiracy theorists told us we'd all be living in concentration camps by now thanks to the mandatory vaccines that were forced on us after swine flu.

4068ac1elhodqr · 07-10-2020 8:38pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

What is this movie called?
In the 70's I was told we would have flying cars and we would holiday on the moon.

Tell us more about your own theory on magical flying car holidays on the moon and whotnot.

As for anyone else out there with a slight clue about practical technologies, policy, reports and so on, this is a fairly simple sceanrio to expect well <20yrs.

Blockchain is the natural centrepeice of course, the sticky glue that holds it all together.

The Great Reset

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