The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

Jolly Red Giant wrote: »

Why - footballers repeatedly suffer long-term physical and mental issues as a result of head trauma from playing football.

No one is denying that there has been plenty of threads about it. Catch up.

Anything that is designed to reduce this should be welcomed - and if the officials have any doubt then they should always err on the side of caution.

No one is saying that they shouldn't try minimize it.

After last weeks games we had people on here claiming that there was a 'perfect tackle' that had a flag thrown. If a flag was thrown it was not a perfect tackle. Defenders will have to adjust - if RBs drop their head then the defenders will have to be conscious of that and make sure that they adjust their tackling technique accordingly.

Sorry but this is just nonsense. The refs themselves are far from perfect and you are naive if you think the part in bold is true.

As for the RB dropping his head. Do you even know the rules?

First Accidental contact does not equal Leading with your head, that rule has not changed:

using any part of a player’s helmet or facemask to butt, spear, or ram an opponent (Note: This provision does not prohibit incidental contact by the mask or the helmet in the course of a conventional tackle or block on an opponent);

Now we come to Article 8

ARTICLE 8. USE OF THE HELMET

It is a foul if a player lowers his head to initiate and make contact with his helmet against an opponent.

Notice 'A Player" not exclusive to defenders. RB lowering his head should have flag thrown on him. Not going down the road of asking a defender who has already broken down into a proper form tackle to pull out of it or "adapt". Do you know how hard it is to come out of a tackle after committing to it? Do you also know how dangerous that action can be? Of course you don't.

As for those who claim it will 'ruin the game' - do you want to base your enjoyment of a violent sport to be paramount over the health and well-being of the people participating in that sport? Rule changes happen all the time - and this is just one more - it is up to players and teams to adapt.

As someone involved in the game and someone who coaches proper form tackling and the heads up method I can tell you so far in the pre-season the refs have gotten it wrong more than once. Proper form tackles have been called as penalties. That is the key here.

When you take away fundamentals of tackling and throw a flag on it you take away the game itself. It wont ruin the sport but unless the refs sort out what is and isn't leading with the head it will take the enjoyment out of the sport and lead to unnecessary calls. They have asked players to play with their heads up and use proper fundamentals to tackle and for the most part players have responded well and done so. But if you start throwing flags on proper tackling you might as well tell the guy to avoid the tackle all together.

The refs and the NFL need to sit down and review the video of the pre-season and look at the flags thrown and distinguish the difference of a form tackle that ended up with accidental contact which is still allowed and also figure out what is leading with your head. They need to be consistent with this rule and get it right.

Jolly Red Giant wrote: »

TOss Sweep wrote: »

As someone involved in the game and someone who coaches proper form tackling and the heads up method I can tell you so far in the pre-season the refs have gotten it wrong more than once. Proper form tackles have been called as penalties. That is the key here.

When you take away fundamentals of tackling and throw a flag on it you take away the game itself. It wont ruin the sport but unless the refs sort out what is and isn't leading with the head it will take the enjoyment out of the sport and lead to unnecessary calls. They have asked players to play with their heads up and use proper fundamentals to tackle and for the most part players have responded well and done so. But if you start throwing flags on proper tackling you might as well tell the guy to avoid the tackle all together.

The refs and the NFL need to sit down and review the video of the pre-season and look at the flags thrown and distinguish the difference of a form tackle that ended up with accidental contact which is still allowed and also figure out what is leading with your head. They need to be consistent with this rule and get it right.

Was there helmet-to-helmet contact?

No. Shows you clearly missed the point of why people are complaining and I was right you clearly didn't read the rule on it or understand the rules. You don't get why so many hope the refs sort their sh1t out. Doesn't surprise me though. But I await your long paragraphs telling me I am wrong and how you are right etc etc etc. Simple case of you gave your opinion but you are wrong and don't understand the rules.

Key thrown away is what he needs at this stage. Absolute vermin of a man.

Billy86 wrote: »

would also make me hope he finds himself under a brain scan sooner rather than later.

The results will come back negative.

No brain found.

Brett Hundley to the seahawks for a 2019 sixth rounder

Are the hawks shedding picks cos they know they're going to get a higher pick from Dallas??

That leaves Kizer. Christ they better wrap Rodgers in cotton wool and hope the backup tackles never have to play.

The Browns have cut Kendricks for the insider trading thing.