Oscars 2019

pixelburp · 24-02-2019 10:34pm

Man, this Oscars hasn't even happened yet and already feels like a bit, flabby anticlimax.

Hollywood's too much of a self-perpetuating beast, built of wonky economics for the ceremony to disappear completely, but does seem like it's becoming more irrelevant and broken with each passing year.

That's a truly awful list of Best Movies, vacillating from the 'yeah, it was good, but not that good' to the 'seriously, that?'; and as bang average as Black Panther was outside of the cultural context, I'd like to see it win just because it at least it has some form of merit attached. And an MCU film winning Best Picture would kinda feel like a hilarious troll...

Though on that note, Black Panther does NOT feel like it came out in 2018; maybe Infinity Wars stole the march, but I'd have sworn BP was a 2017 film ...

AllForIt · 24-02-2019 10:51pm

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Colman could cause an upset for Close or Gaga for best actress

My money is on Close.

JP Liz V1 · 24-02-2019 10:55pm

AllForIt wrote: »

My money is on Close.

She is long overdue

Sad Professor · 24-02-2019 10:57pm

I actually think it's a pretty good mix of films by Oscar standards. The fact that I consider the two most nominated films (Roma, The Favourite) to be fully worthy of praise makes this a pretty good year from my point of view. I'm lukewarm to indifferent on the rest of the Best Picture nominees (bar Vice which I haven't seen yet). As already said, Black Panther and Green Book are more about cultural politics than the films themselves which are average at best. And Bohemiam and Star is Born are popular crowd pleasers which scratch a particular itch that audiences have at the moment. Main issue this year is that nobody seems to care. There's no underdog or front runner to get excited about.

gmisk · 24-02-2019 10:58pm

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

She is long overdue

She should have won for dangerous liasons.
It's probably a bit like scorcese winning for the departed.

Zeek12 · 24-02-2019 11:04pm

gmisk wrote: »

She should have won for dangerous liasons.
It's probably a bit like scorcese winning for the departed.

She was also excellent in Fatal Attraction and Albert Nobbs.

I really hope she wins this year.

Morrison J · 24-02-2019 11:06pm

I loved Roma and would love to see it win but something tells me that the fact it's a foreign language, black and white Netflix film means we may see an upset.

I can't see any upsets in any of the acting categories unfortunately.

johnny_ultimate · 24-02-2019 11:18pm

Sad Professor wrote: »

The fact that I consider the two most nominated films (Roma, The Favourite) to be fully worthy of praise makes this a pretty good year from my point of view.

Yeah I'm completely down with those two films' dominance as well - I think there were a few other films that should be up in those top categories as well (Beale Street first and foremost) but if either or both of those two pick up a decent bunch of awards I'd be fairly happy with that. They're both IMO among the best of the best recent films - you don't always get to say that about any of the nominees, so we'll see how they fare.

Personally, I feel there's a good bunch of exceptional nominees in some of the other categories. I think the animation selection is particularly strong this year - it'll go to Spider-Man (deservedly), but would be delighted to see either Isle of Dogs or Mirai win either. Also have my fingers crossed for Minding the Gap as it's a beautiful film that in an ideal world wouldn't just be stuck in the documentary category. Nicholas Brittell's work on Beale Street is also astounding, so hoping that wins best score.

Morrison J · 24-02-2019 11:23pm

Can anyone explain to me why Malek is such a strong favourite in essentially his first big film when he was some sort of Mercury/Jagger hybrid and they made Leo pretty much wait 20 years to "earn it"?

The Oscars makes no sense to me at the best of times. Just narratives that gain momentum and everyone jumps on board. Every year is different. I just don't think Bohemian Rhapsody should be anywhere near these awards. Whole film felt cheap and underwhelming to me.

gmisk · 24-02-2019 11:44pm

Morrison J wrote: »

I loved Roma and would love to see it win but something tells me that the fact it's a foreign language, black and white Netflix film means we may see an upset.

I can't see any upsets in any of the acting categories unfortunately.

It's excellent but it isn't even the best black and white foreign film for me this year...Cold War is stunning.

gmisk · 25-02-2019 12:31am

A lot of nailed on favourites ATM.

Looks like Glenn close will get lead actress it should be Olivia Coleman imo.

Ali will get best supporting actor probably I would defo give that one to Richard E Grant.

Roma looks favourites for best picture as well.

I think Bradley Cooper really deserved a nod for best director as well.

Some films that definitely for me deserved some recognition

Leave no trace
Old man and the gun
Widows
Hereditary (well toni Colette)
And
Er paddington 2...seriously

gmisk · 25-02-2019 12:35am

Morrison J wrote: »

Can anyone explain to me why Malek is such a strong favourite in essentially his first big film when he was some sort of Mercury/Jagger hybrid and they made Leo pretty much wait 20 years to "earn it"?

The Oscars makes no sense to me at the best of times. Just narratives that gain momentum and everyone jumps on board. Every year is different. I just don't think Bohemian Rhapsody should be anywhere near these awards. Whole film felt cheap and underwhelming to me.

I actually thought he gave a really good performance in a pretty ok at best film, he elevated the material (which was very safe, and sanitized due to May and Taylors involvement) I wouldn't personally give it to him.
Would have loved to have seen what Sacha Baron Cohen or Ben Whishaw would have done with the part.

Outlaw Pete · 25-02-2019 1:08am

Okaaay.

https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1099783515959287808

expectationlost · 25-02-2019 1:12am

this isn't worth staying up for right?

lbc2019 · 25-02-2019 1:12am

Awesome!

Have the given Glenn Close her Oscar yet?

4068ac1elhodqr · 25-02-2019 1:36am

Valeria Flaky Octopi wrote: »

Some significant live market movements for Best Dir award to: Yorgos Lanthimos.

Would like to see Bohemian Rhapsody take best movie also an outsider.

Reports of potential leak for Best Dir (Yorgos Lanthimos) 50/1 into 3/1

Of course, could well be a false positive from the hype machine. Afterall Holywood is good at keeping it's secrets under wraps, unless it benefits from publicity.

Spike Lee might also suit best Dir, as non-white males will benefit from added leverage this year.

AllForIt · 25-02-2019 2:23am

The first award goes to a black woman. Well deserved I'm sure.

It's just sickening the way The Oscars has gone all politically correct, whether that award was richly deserved or not.

It used to be a fun event but now it's totally ruined by politics.

Oh, and as I write, Jenifer Hudson is up to do yet another performance at the Oscars. Wasn't that long ago she did one if memory serves.

Yours,
Black Panther.

AllForIt · 25-02-2019 2:34am

So far all the presenters are a couple who are 1 white and 1 black. This policy is totally ridiculous.

As far as feminism is concerned at least they can't complain that a woman wins best actress but I'm sure in due course they will complain that only men win best actor.

expectationlost · 25-02-2019 2:41am

they should cut the people who just read out list of names

AllForIt · 25-02-2019 2:42am

Another black win. Let's hope and the end of ceremony it's 50 black 50 white in terms of wins. Despite the fact that blacks hardly make up 15% of the ppl involved in movie making.

johnny_ultimate · 25-02-2019 2:50am

AllForIt wrote: »

It's just sickening the way The Oscars has gone all politically correct, whether that award was richly deserved or not.

You must surely realise how utterly preposterous this sentence is, right?

And yes, it was richly deserved: superb performance in an extraordinary film.

AllForIt · 25-02-2019 2:59am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

Serena Williams, that well know actress, introduces a segment.

Actually, I correct myself. She's quite a good actress.

Who could have forgotten this performance. Deserved an Oscar for it really.

Edit: The really really funny side of having her on is they simply couldn't find enough black actors in the business so they just got some some random black person on. This is laughable and utterly pathetic.

JP Liz V1 · 25-02-2019 2:59am

lbc2019 wrote: »

Awesome!

Have the given Glenn Close her Oscar yet?

She's wearing it

25-02-2019 3:00am

expectationlost wrote: »

this isn't worth staying up for right?

Never is

Outlaw Pete · 25-02-2019 3:03am

Didn't like the film, but her performance was exceptional, so I wouldn't begrudge her the Oscar (she should have got one for Ray anyway, so this makes up for it).

https://twitter.com/theGrio/status/1099842684909436929

AllForIt · 25-02-2019 3:22am

Black Panther, you know that movie with no white ppl in it, is northing more than an average sci-fi movie of the ilk of XMen but nowhere near as good. To have it up for best picture is the biggest Oscars joke of all time.

Outlaw Pete · 25-02-2019 3:29am

Oh I agree with you there alright.

AllForIt · 25-02-2019 3:31am

Mahershala Ali, you know that black man, (seems to be a theme of this evening, who knew) wins another Oscar. Only ever seen him in House of Cards. Didn't come across as a top actor to me in all seriousness.

And now to introduce the next segment, a black man and a white woman. Lovely.

Down with those white males. uggh.

Morrison J · 25-02-2019 3:33am

Actually enjoying the show more than usual. Better without a host imo. It's flowing nicely.

AllForIt · 25-02-2019 3:41am

Morrison J wrote: »

Actually enjoying the show more than usual. Better without a host imo. It's flowing nicely.

No I much prefer The Oscars of old, as presented by that awful white person Billy Crystal for example.

McDermotX · 25-02-2019 3:59am

First Man gets Visual Effects award.

Personally think it should be up on that stage for a few of the other awards.

McDermotX · 25-02-2019 4:25am

Original Score - Black Panther

Laughable. Even the audience aren't buying that one.

Arghus · 25-02-2019 5:03am

That death glare from Melissa McCarthy there...

AllForIt · 25-02-2019 5:06am

Glenn Close tempted fate by wearing a gold colored dress.

Sweet acceptance speech by Olivia.

dark crystal · 25-02-2019 5:12am

7th time unlucky for poor Glenn Close. Shame, I really thought it was her time.

McDermotX · 25-02-2019 5:14am

Green Book gets best picture.

expectationlost · 25-02-2019 5:15am

wtf!

Deeper Blue · 25-02-2019 5:27am

Glenn Close was 1/20 to win with some bookies :eek:

L'prof · 25-02-2019 5:31am

Nominated 7 times, at 71 you’d imagine that was her last opportunity. Streep has been nominated 21 times (won 3)!!!

lbc2019 · 25-02-2019 7:14am

Go diversity!

phoebees · 25-02-2019 7:50am

The performance of Lady Gaga of Bradley Cooper is amazing!

gmisk · 25-02-2019 8:34am

AllForIt wrote: »

Black Panther, you know that movie with no white ppl in it, is northing more than an average sci-fi movie of the ilk of XMen but nowhere near as good. To have it up for best picture is the biggest Oscars joke of all time.

Andy serkis and Martin Freeman are black now?

The Oscars have had some bad films nominated for best film shocker...the category has also expanded in number. Also it's the Oscars chill out.

I am noticing a slight pattern to your posts...

Also Billy Crystals last time hosting was a disaster he has had so much plastic surgery he now looks like an egg. I am guessing your less of a fan of whoopi Goldberg hosting?

Delighted for Colman she deserved it, she was even better in tyrannosaur imo.

gmisk · 25-02-2019 8:48am

AllForIt wrote: »

Mahershala Ali, you know that black man, (seems to be a theme of this evening, who knew) wins another Oscar. Only ever seen him in House of Cards. Didn't come across as a top actor to me in all seriousness.

And now to introduce the next segment, a black man and a white woman. Lovely.

Down with those white males. uggh.

Have you seen the film?
He also won an Oscar before in 2016.

White males oh the suppression of it all! I feel suppressed I don't know about you...

Tipsy McSwagger · 25-02-2019 9:01am

Didn’t watch it as it’s been a joke for years. Not surprised that the usual ways of winning an Oscar ticked all the boxes, Brit playing a Royal, AIDS, Racism. No host either in case they offend the disgusting metoo movement or other snowflakes.

Elmo · 25-02-2019 9:46am

Best Picture
Green Book – Jim Burke, Charles B. Wessler, Brian Currie, Peter Farrelly and Nick Vallelongadouble-dagger
Best Director
Alfonso Cuarón – Romadouble-dagger
Best Actor
Rami Malek – Bohemian Rhapsody as Freddie Mercury double-dagger
Best Actress
Olivia Colman – The Favourite as Anne, Queen of Great Britain double-dagger
Best Supporting Actor
Mahershala Ali – Green Book as Don Shirleydouble-dagger
Best Supporting Actress
Regina King – If Beale Street Could Talk as Sharon Riversdouble-dagger
Best Original Screenplay
Green Book – Written by Nick Vallelonga, Brian Currie & Peter Farrellydouble-dagger
Best Adapted Screenplay
BlacKkKlansman – Screenplay by Charlie Wachtel & David Rabinowitz and Kevin Willmott & Spike Lee; based on the book by Ron Stallworthdouble-dagger
Best Animated Feature Film
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse – Bob Persichetti, Peter Ramsey, Rodney Rothman, Phil Lord and Christopher Millerdouble-dagger
Best Foreign Language Film
Roma (Mexico) in Spanish and Mixtec – Directed by Alfonso Cuaróndouble-dagger
Best Documentary – Feature
Free Solo – Elizabeth Chai Vasarhelyi, Jimmy Chin, Evan Hayes and Shannon Dilldouble-dagger
Best Documentary – Short Subject
Period. End of Sentence. – Rayka Zehtabchi and Melissa Bertondouble-dagger
Best Live Action Short Film
Skin – Guy Nattiv and Jaime Ray Newmandouble-dagger
Best Animated Short Film
Bao – Domee Shi and Becky Neiman-Cobbdouble-dagger
Best Original Score
Black Panther – Ludwig Göranssondouble-dagger
Best Original Song
Shallow from A Star Is Born – Music and Lyrics by Lady Gaga, Mark Ronson, Anthony Rossomando and Andrew Wyattdouble-dagger
Best Sound Editing
Bohemian Rhapsody – John Warhurst and Nina Hartstonedouble-dagger
Best Sound Mixing
Bohemian Rhapsody – Paul Massey, Tim Cavagin and John Casalidouble-dagger
Best Production Design
Black Panther – Hannah Beachler (production design); Jay Hart (set decoration)double-dagger
Best Cinematography
Roma – Alfonso Cuaróndouble-dagger
Best Makeup and Hairstyling
Vice – Greg Cannom, Kate Biscoe and Patricia Dehaneydouble-dagger
Best Film Editing
Bohemian Rhapsody – John Ottmandouble-dagger
Best Visual Effects
First Man – Paul Lambert, Ian Hunter, Tristan Myles and J. D. Schwalmdouble-dagger

murpho999 · 25-02-2019 9:50am

AllForIt wrote: »

Mahershala Ali, you know that black man, (seems to be a theme of this evening, who knew) wins another Oscar. Only ever seen him in House of Cards. Didn't come across as a top actor to me in all seriousness.

And now to introduce the next segment, a black man and a white woman. Lovely.

Down with those white males. uggh.

Hard to take you seriously if you didn't know that Mahershala Ali won 2 years ago for his role in Moonlight.

He was good in House of Cards too but his Oscar wins are nothing to do with that.

murpho999 · 25-02-2019 9:56am

Really surprised at Green Book's win.

I enjoyed it and it has its charms but for me it was a buddies on a road trip movie and did not really tackle the subjects of racism or segregation in depth but the film is being promoted as doing exactly that.

It has scenes where the black character is discriminated against but in a very predictable way but does not get into the effect on him nor does it explore the white character's own racism despite implying it would at the start.

I thought Roma would have won it and i think it should have.

I don't get how Cuaron can win the best director award and then not get the best film. For me those two awards should always be linked. If you've been the best director then surely you've made the best film?

gmisk · 25-02-2019 10:03am

Elmo wrote: »

Best Picture
Green Book – Jim Burke, Charles B. Wessler, Brian Currie, Peter Farrelly and Nick Vallelongadouble-dagger
Best Director
Alfonso Cuarón – Romadouble-dagger
Best Actor
Rami Malek – Bohemian Rhapsody as Freddie Mercury double-dagger
Best Actress
Olivia Colman – The Favourite as Anne, Queen of Great Britain double-dagger
Best Supporting Actor
Mahershala Ali – Green Book as Don Shirleydouble-dagger
Best Supporting Actress
Regina King – If Beale Street Could Talk as Sharon Riversdouble-dagger
Best Original Screenplay
Green Book – Written by Nick Vallelonga, Brian Currie & Peter Farrellydouble-dagger
Best Adapted Screenplay
BlacKkKlansman – Screenplay by Charlie Wachtel & David Rabinowitz and Kevin Willmott & Spike Lee; based on the book by Ron Stallworthdouble-dagger
Best Animated Feature Film
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse – Bob Persichetti, Peter Ramsey, Rodney Rothman, Phil Lord and Christopher Millerdouble-dagger
Best Foreign Language Film
Roma (Mexico) in Spanish and Mixtec – Directed by Alfonso Cuaróndouble-dagger
Best Documentary – Feature
Free Solo – Elizabeth Chai Vasarhelyi, Jimmy Chin, Evan Hayes and Shannon Dilldouble-dagger
Best Documentary – Short Subject
Period. End of Sentence. – Rayka Zehtabchi and Melissa Bertondouble-dagger
Best Live Action Short Film
Skin – Guy Nattiv and Jaime Ray Newmandouble-dagger
Best Animated Short Film
Bao – Domee Shi and Becky Neiman-Cobbdouble-dagger
Best Original Score
Black Panther – Ludwig Göranssondouble-dagger
Best Original Song
Shallow from A Star Is Born – Music and Lyrics by Lady Gaga, Mark Ronson, Anthony Rossomando and Andrew Wyattdouble-dagger
Best Sound Editing
Bohemian Rhapsody – John Warhurst and Nina Hartstonedouble-dagger
Best Sound Mixing
Bohemian Rhapsody – Paul Massey, Tim Cavagin and John Casalidouble-dagger
Best Production Design
Black Panther – Hannah Beachler (production design); Jay Hart (set decoration)double-dagger
Best Cinematography
Roma – Alfonso Cuaróndouble-dagger
Best Makeup and Hairstyling
Vice – Greg Cannom, Kate Biscoe and Patricia Dehaneydouble-dagger
Best Film Editing
Bohemian Rhapsody – John Ottmandouble-dagger
Best Visual Effects
First Man – Paul Lambert, Ian Hunter, Tristan Myles and J. D. Schwalmdouble-dagger

I can't believe double dagger had so many noms!

Sad Professor · 25-02-2019 10:10am

murpho999 wrote: »

I don't get how Cuaron can win the best director award and then not get the best film. For me those two awards should always be linked. If you've been the best director then surely you've made the best film?

Not necessarily. A film can be very well directed but people could have reservations about other parts of it or think another film is more deserving. Saving Private Ryan is a good example of this. Spielberg's direction, especially at the beginning, was widely praised and there was a sense that he was owed another Oscar, but nobody thought much of the film's script.

In any case, Cuaron still won Best Foreign Language film.

pixelburp · 25-02-2019 10:12am

On reflection, should Green Book be a surprise? Hollywood - specifically the Oscars - really love a reductionist, manipulative "a white and black person solve racism"; Driving Miss Daisy is nearly 30 years old so at least parallels with people's obsession with nostalgia that a broad remake of a 30 year old film wins the Oscar.

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