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Oscars 2019

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  • Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    List 1.
    F Murray Abraham (1984), Dustin Hoffman (1988), Daniel Day Lewis (1989), Philip Seymour Hoffman (2005), Gary Oldman (2017).

    posthumous


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,458 ✭✭✭valoren


    List 1 - all are real life people except Hoffman who was instead based on a real life person (Kim Peek).
    List 2 - DeNiro the only second time nominee/winner? The others are first time nominees and also first time winners.
    List 3 - All play roles of leadership except Brody?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,375 ✭✭✭MfMan


    valoren wrote: »
    List 1 - all are real life people except Hoffman who was instead based on a real life person (Kim Peek).
    List 2 - DeNiro the only second time nominee/winner? The others are first time nominees and also first time winners.
    List 3 - All play roles of leadership except Brody?

    List 1, yes, only Hoffman's character was fictional.
    List 2, no.
    List 3, yes, all but Brody were political leaders of some type.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    List 2.
    Robert De Niro (1980), Jeremy Irons (1990), Geoffrey Rush (1996), Jamie Foxx (2004), Matthew McConaughey (2013), Eddie Redmayne (2014).

    portrays a murder?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,375 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Elmo wrote: »
    List 2.
    Robert De Niro (1980), Jeremy Irons (1990), Geoffrey Rush (1996), Jamie Foxx (2004), Matthew McConaughey (2013), Eddie Redmayne (2014).

    portrays a murder?

    Again, no. Not what I had in mind. :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,458 ✭✭✭valoren


    List 2.

    Robert De Niro (1980), Jeremy Irons (1990), Geoffrey Rush (1996), Jamie Foxx (2004), Matthew McConaughey (2013), Eddie Redmayne (2014).

    Disabilities or Illness as a plot point in the movie?

    Jeremy Irons (1990) - diabetes
    Geoffrey Rush (1996) - mental illness
    Jamie Foxx (2004) - blindness
    Matthew McConaughey (2013) - Aids
    Eddie Redmayne (2014) - ALS


    So De Niro is the odd one out?


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    List 2.
    Robert De Niro (1980), Jeremy Irons (1990), Geoffrey Rush (1996), Jamie Foxx (2004), Matthew McConaughey (2013), Eddie Redmayne (2014).

    The real life person was still alive when the actor collected the award except for Matthew McConaughey's character?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,375 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Elmo wrote: »
    List 2.
    Robert De Niro (1980), Jeremy Irons (1990), Geoffrey Rush (1996), Jamie Foxx (2004), Matthew McConaughey (2013), Eddie Redmayne (2014).

    The real life person was still alive when the actor collected the award except for Matthew McConaughey's character?


    Bingo!

    When setting the question, I would have thought only De Niro (La Motta) would have fitted the criteria - it was a surprise when there were others alive also.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,458 ✭✭✭valoren


    Odd one out.

    Helen Hunt - As Good as it Gets (1997)
    Katherine Hepburn - On Golden Pond (1981)
    Jane Fonda - Coming Home (1978)
    Elizabeth Taylor - Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolf (1966)
    Louise Fletcher - One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975)


  • Registered Users Posts: 322 ✭✭plastic glass


    valoren wrote: »
    Odd one out.

    Helen Hunt - As Good as it Gets (1997)
    Katherine Hepburn - On Golden Pond (1981)
    Jane Fonda - Coming Home (1978)
    Elizabeth Taylor - Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolf (1966)
    Louise Fletcher - One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975)

    Elizabeth Taylor-co star didn’t win best actor that year as well.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,458 ✭✭✭valoren


    Elizabeth Taylor-co star didn’t win best actor that year as well.

    Spot on!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,668 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    The Oscars were unable to find a replacement host for Kevin Hart and are officially going hostless this year, for the first time in 30 years.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The Oscars were unable to find a replacement host for Kevin Hart and are officially going hostless this year, for the first time in 30 years.

    If only they had the stones to get Ricky. The spike in numbers would be off the charts. Instead it’s going to reach a new viewing low...


  • Registered Users Posts: 85,129 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Roma the big winner at the Baftas


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,107 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    http://thr.cm/TUXZd9

    Confirmation they’re relegating four awards (editing?!!! cinematography?!!!) to commercial breaks. **** the Academy at this stage quite frankly - hope their broadcast numbers fall even lower this year with cheap, misguided and cynical moves like this.

    The Oscars are the only time of the year the year technical achievements like hair & make-up are celebrated in front of such a huge audience. Terrible shame to see such essential categories being ‘downgraded’. Shameful move.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    http://thr.cm/TUXZd9

    Confirmation they’re relegating four awards (editing?!!! cinematography?!!!) to commercial breaks. **** the Academy at this stage quite frankly - hope their broadcast numbers fall even lower this year with cheap, misguided and cynical moves like this.

    The Oscars are the only time of the year the year technical achievements like hair & make-up are celebrated in front of such a huge audience. Terrible shame to see such essential categories being ‘downgraded’. Shameful move.

    Theres probably no minorities in the nominations.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 35,941 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Go home Oscars, you're drunk. Effectively relegating cinematography is a ludicruous decision, it's the very heart of cinema. Hey ho, it slips from one calamity to another at this stage


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,668 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    To be fair, they are saying they will still be televised albeit in edited form later in the show and streamed live on their website. And which 4 technical categories get this treatment will apparently change every year.

    I still oppose it, especially for editing and cinematography, and hope some of the presenters/winners give ABC/Disney sh*t on air for it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,925 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    American TV :pac:

    Soon, it'll be 80% adverts and 20% content.

    I remember watching 'The Exorcist 2' in New York years ago. A two hour film stretched to three, because there was an ad break every ten minutes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,355 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Bit of a disgrace that. Editing and cinematography are amongst the most meaningful awards handed out on the night.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,083 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    excellent editing can make all the difference to a film imo.
    relegating these talents to the ad break really says a lot about those who make these decisions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    But no one paysbattention to those categories on movie posters or DVD cover blurbs.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,458 ✭✭✭valoren


    They should just meld the acting awards instead of cutting out air time for the technical categories.

    Have one acting prize for a stand alone outstanding performance (Best Performance by an "Actor"). It could be the leading role or even a supporting role.

    An additional award for Cast performance based on the subjective performances of a minimum of four selected Actors in a film. The four selected Actors would each get an award.

    The whole equality angle would go down a treat. There would be no "segregation" of the sexes either which would also be 'a triumph' for liberal Hollywood.

    Also the acting awards are usually a straight copy and paste of the Screen Actors Guild awards as is, there are typically no surprises come Oscar night. To have a wider pool competing for that sole acting prize would give the Oscars the viewing/interest edge it needs. For example taking last year, between Gary Oldman, Frances McDormand, Sam Rockwell and Allison Janney who would have won the Best Acting award? That's the kind of interest and debate the Acadamy needs to be fostering. And each of the four also won a SAG award last year practically signposting who would win the Oscar.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    valoren wrote: »
    The whole equality angle would go down a treat. There would be no "segregation" of the sexes either which would also be 'a triumph' for liberal Hollywood.

    Would go down a treat until the single award is won by a man (SEXIST PATRIARCHY!!11) or, heaven forbid, a woman (PC BRIGADE GONE MAD!!!1one)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,107 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    https://variety.com/2019/film/news/all-oscar-categories-to-air-live-after-hollywood-protest-1203141496/

    And the Academy backs down after a well justified backlash, and will now air all awards as usual. They didn’t expect the A-list complaints, Variety reports.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,107 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    filters wrote: »
    Don't take a genius to see the pros have been paid money for favourable reviews

    No matter how many times people say this, it remains complete conspiratorial hogwash (it does take a genius, it seems, to come up with any evidence this is taking place).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭Flyingsnowball


    No matter how many times people say this, it remains complete conspiratorial hogwash (it does take a genius, it seems, to come up with any evidence this is taking place).

    What I find odd is the rating of some films on the internet listing sites seem to start crazy high and nobody has even seen the film yet.

    Then there will be a hundred or so reviews that seem to be written by a secondary school film review student all day how great it was.
    Then when the real reviews written by real people start showing up it’s like , “this film blows don’t waste your time” or “good film really enjoyed it”

    There’s something going on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,849 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    On tonight. Looking set to be pretty underwhelming. All major awards bar best picture seem sewn up, no host, poor standard of films this year overall in my opinion.

    Malek being such a big favourite for best actor is a strange one. Really didn't care for his performance and thought Bohemian Rhapsody as a film was woefully poor.


  • Registered Users Posts: 85,129 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Morrison J wrote: »
    On tonight. Looking set to be pretty underwhelming. All major awards bar best picture seem sewn up, no host, poor standard of films this year overall in my opinion.

    Malek being such a big favourite for best actor is a strange one. Really didn't care for his performance and thought Bohemian Rhapsody as a film was woefully poor.

    Colman could cause an upset for Close or Gaga for best actress


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Some significant live market movements for Best Dir award to: Yorgos Lanthimos.

    Would like to see Bohemian Rhapsody take best movie also an outsider.


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