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Ghostbusters Afterlife (Jason Reitman)

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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,647 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    faceman wrote: »
    "Ghostbusters Day? :rolleyes:

    i'm not questioning it


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Hey, it's not even the most obnoxious attempts at marketing; let's not forget the "Ghost Corps" idea that was meant to have a shared universe of spinoffs, launched by the 2016 reboot :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭ThePott


    Ghostbusters Day has actually been a thing for the last few years. June 8th is the anniversary of the release of the original.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Obviously manipulative promotion (Jason's patter coming off a little forced), but comes with some behind the scenes footage for anyone interested. Is weird to listen to the 1984 film spoken about as a cherished childhood item, when the original was quite adult in its humour (blowjob jokes n' all).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,793 ✭✭✭coolisin


    Im still excited for this, as the cherished child hood memories and growing old, not getting any of the blow job/adult humour as a kid!
    Maybe its just the Im looking forward to cinemas and new content I want to see :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    coolisin wrote: »
    Im still excited for this, as the cherished child hood memories and growing old, not getting any of the blow job/adult humour as a kid!
    Maybe its just the Im looking forward to cinemas and new content I want to see :D

    Me too. I’m looking forward to bringing my children to see a proper ghostbusters movie on the big screen. Don’t care if it’s mostly copy and paste of GB1 , if it manages to find the right tone and charm of original. Paul Rudd is a solid lead for me. Actually loved him in Mute (always love seeing funny people do movies agaisnt the grain)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,539 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Can't even get a glimmer of excitement up for this TBH. It all just looks like it's trying to do 'Ghostbusters' in a 'Stranger Things'/'It' fashion.

    But, it's odd. For me 'Ghostbusters' was just another film of the 80's. It's like 'Trading Places' or 'The Karate Kid'. I never got that it was a "franchise"...ugh, I hate that fucking word. It was a great little film that was the hit of the Christmas 1984, along with 'Gremlins'. But all it had was one very mediocre sequel and a couple of naff cartoons that didn't do anything for me, even as a kid.

    I spose I'll just never get the hype about it and there's nothing about this film that seems to be changing that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Tony EH wrote: »
    Can't even get a glimmer of excitement up for this TBH. It all just looks like it's trying to do 'Ghostbusters' in a 'Stranger Things'/'It' fashion.

    But, it's odd. For me 'Ghostbusters' was just another film of the 80's. It's like 'Trading Places' or 'The Karate Kid'. I never got that it was a "franchise"...ugh, I hate that fucking word. It was a great little film that was the hit of the Christmas 1984, along with 'Gremlins'. But all it had was one very mediocre sequel and a couple of naff cartoons that didn't do anything for me, even as a kid.

    I spose I'll just never get the hype about it and there's nothing about this film that seems to be changing that.

    If you don’t watch the mediums where there is hype , it doesn’t bother you ;)

    I actually watched the cartoons as a child. Also have fond memories of my dad bringing me to GB2, I’m looking forward to doing the same with my children. The occasion can make a movie better, I get such a buzz off watching things with my children.

    Trading places is a classic. Few funnier scenes then when your man is on the phone and he says “hold on... f**k off” to the person waiting!

    There was a minor link to coming to America if I remember correctly where the two old lads who had lost all their money were bums on the street and given money by the Prince. Not quite a franchise , more a nod I suppose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,539 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Drumpot wrote: »
    If you don’t watch the mediums where there is hype , it doesn’t bother you ;)

    It's usually all hype these days.
    Drumpot wrote: »
    I actually watched the cartoons as a child. Also have fond memories of my dad bringing me to GB2

    And this is the problem with Ghostbusters. It's just an empty machine based entirely on a nostalgic experience. I have fond memories of my mother bringing me to see the first one. But absolutely nothing else since has even come close to that as far as Ghostbusters is concerned. It was a flash in the pan, never to be repeated and no matter how hard they try, they'll never repeat it. 'Ghostbusters' is the epitome of that right place/right time vibe.
    Drumpot wrote: »
    Trading places is a classic. Few funnier scenes then when your man is on the phone and he says “hold on... f**k off” to the person waiting!

    Yeh, 'Trading Places' is a genuinely great film. I'm a video era kid, so those great 80's films were things I grew up on. Thing is, a lot of them are still great, without the need to suck a lifeless "franchise" out of them. Or maybe because of it.

    It's a pity that 'Ghostbusters' didn't stay that way.

    Speaking of 1984, I've also heard on the grapevine that there's some serious desire to reboot 'Gremlins' as a movie. They're probably waiting to see how the TV show gets on.

    That'll probably suck worse than a $2 hooker.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Tony EH wrote: »
    It's usually all hype these days.



    And this is the problem with Ghostbusters. It's just an empty machine based entirely on a nostalgic experience. I have fond memories of my mother bringing me to see the first one. But absolutely nothing else since has even come close to that as far as Ghostbusters is concerned. It was a flash in the pan, never to be repeated and no matter how hard they try, they'll never repeat it. 'Ghostbusters' is the epitome of that right place/right time vibe.



    Yeh, 'Trading Places' is a genuinely great film. I'm a video era kid, so those great 80's films were things I grew up on. Thing is, a lot of them are still great, without the need to suck a lifeless "franchise" out of them. Or maybe because of it.

    It's a pity that 'Ghostbusters' didn't stay that way.

    Speaking of 1984, I've also heard on the grapevine that there's some serious desire to reboot 'Gremlins' as a movie. They're probably waiting to see how the TV show gets on.

    That'll probably suck worse than a $2 hooker.

    Big trouble in little China , one of my favourites.

    Watched predator with my son recently and he loved it. Watched all the predator movies and he said it himself, the first was the best.

    Gremlins seems kind of like lightening in a bottle movie. 2nd was bad to be fair, even though I kinda enjoyed it as a young boy, it’s a bad movie. GB2 isn’t great either but I let nostalgia engulf my sentiments towards it!

    I don’t see how that can be reasonably updated as I always remember the original being a horror , but you’d expect an updated one to target PG which wouldn’t work. Unless it works like Alien v predator that made the most of those franchises (I think).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    Tony EH wrote: »
    Can't even get a glimmer of excitement up for this TBH. It all just looks like it's trying to do 'Ghostbusters' in a 'Stranger Things'/'It' fashion.

    I have to kinda agree with that. Ghostbusters for me is as much about New York City as it is about anything else.

    This has a very different setting in what appears to be a small town in middle america which kids.

    Having said that, I am slightly more excited for this than I was for the one recently that doesn't even deserve a mention.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Ghostbusters as a variation of "Stranger Things" is fine with me and arguably a pretty good approach for a sequel IMO; I know the Netflix show has burned out its goodwill through over-exposure, but " kids investigate spookiness in small-town America" is a pretty solid, engaging story format that connects well with the Ghostbusters world. Especially in a "passing the torch" approach, which seems to be the main vibe going on here. Ok, not very "New York" but apart from anything else that version of NY doesn't exist anymore anyway.

    When done right, a bunch of (usually outcast) kids pursuing a mystery in their home town is an excellent slice of entertainment that has never gone out of fashion since the days of Enid Blyton. I'm not convinced Sony will simply let this film BE mind you, and will probably interfere to the point of it becoming just another mush of CGI - but the bones of a good sequel are there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    The thing about these long awaited sequels of much loved movies is that those making them almost NEVER listen to the fans. Even recently they didn't even listen to the original and returning cast members (Hamill) who knew what the fans wanted.

    Most of us who are fans of the original would love to see the original guys suit up and gear up one last time. Perhaps to save the day (pardon the pun) at the end of the movie with the kids being up against it.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    py2006 wrote: »
    The thing about these long awaited sequels of much loved movies is that those making them almost NEVER listen to the fans. Even recently they didn't even listen to the original and returning cast members (Hamill) who knew what the fans wanted.

    Most of us who are fans of the original would love to see the original guys suit up and gear up one last time. Perhaps to save the day (pardon the pun) at the end of the movie with the kids being up against it.

    Well count me as one of those fans who wouldn't like that idea: not just Ghostbusters either, but I just don't find appealing the idea of beloved actors shuffling about in their old costumes, old and greying - and in this case, missing one of their colleagues :( Same with Indy, Han Solo, captain Picard, Dr Who (Tom Baker briefly revised his role) etc. etc. Sometimes it works when their age is part of the story, such as the recent Rocky sequels, and to be fair "Picard" kinda played with the captain's obscelescence.

    It's just ... I dunno, really sad and what makes these characters iconic is a kind of immortality; we might age but they won't. There will always be infinite stories these characters can have in our minds ... unless you have a sequel film reminding us just how old and doddery they have become :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    py2006 wrote: »
    The thing about these long awaited sequels of much loved movies is that those making them almost NEVER listen to the fans. Even recently they didn't even listen to the original and returning cast members (Hamill) who knew what the fans wanted.

    Most of us who are fans of the original would love to see the original guys suit up and gear up one last time. Perhaps to save the day (pardon the pun) at the end of the movie with the kids being up against it.

    I think with "franchises" (GB not much of a franchise) the legacy issue makes it impossible for the studio to please everybody. Look at Indy, many just do not want another Indiana Jones but they are using the original actor. I do not know if Indiana movie works without Ford or a full reboot. and while fans want neither, we are getting one regardless.

    GB doing it differently is not a problem for me and I think it sort of makes sense. It wouldn't have Egon (or worse a CGI version of him!) and I cant think of too many "our favorite characters get back together for more fun" movies that are good after such a long break between movies. Maybe not fair to compare it to comedies, but Dumb and Dumber 2 and Zoolander 2 among others, show that coming making sequels decades after the original is not easy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    Tony EH wrote: »
    Can't even get a glimmer of excitement up for this TBH. It all just looks like it's trying to do 'Ghostbusters' in a 'Stranger Things'/'It' fashion.

    But, it's odd. For me 'Ghostbusters' was just another film of the 80's. It's like 'Trading Places' or 'The Karate Kid'. I never got that it was a "franchise"...ugh, I hate that fucking word. It was a great little film that was the hit of the Christmas 1984, along with 'Gremlins'. But all it had was one very mediocre sequel and a couple of naff cartoons that didn't do anything for me, even as a kid.

    I spose I'll just never get the hype about it and there's nothing about this film that seems to be changing that.

    I feel exactly the same way. They may as well be rebooting Short Circuit. Although come to think of it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Mr Crispy wrote: »
    I feel exactly the same way. They may as well be rebooting Short Circuit. Although come to think of it...

    Watched that recently with the kids, they enjoyed it..

    I bet Fischer Stephens is praying they do not reboot it or he will have to apologize for playing an Indian person like Hank Azaria. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,539 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Drumpot wrote: »
    Gremlins seems kind of like lightening in a bottle movie. 2nd was bad to be fair, even though I kinda enjoyed it as a young boy, it’s a bad movie. GB2 isn’t great either but I let nostalgia engulf my sentiments towards it!

    I don’t see how that can be reasonably updated as I always remember the original being a horror , but you’d expect an updated one to target PG which wouldn’t work. Unless it works like Alien v predator that made the most of those franchises (I think).

    There's a 4 quadrant blandness that's at the heart of why so many films fail these days and something like the original 'Gremlins' (count me in as someone who didn't like the 2nd movie) would never work today.

    Joe Dante cut his teeth on horror and loves the genre, so he infused 'Gremlins' with an ounce or two of it and it works. 'Gremlins' is a product of a small collaboration (much like 'Ghostbusters') and because of that limited input, remains a clear vision.

    If made today, or rebooted, it would be the product of an army of "producers" who'll rely on "data" before the first camera even rolls and we'll, more than likely, end up with a bloody mess.

    That being said, I haven't seen the TV show. So there may be a chance yet that at least that's ok. But with the sheer amount of failed reboots and sequels it's hard to keep any kind of optimism at all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    Drumpot wrote: »
    Watched that recently with the kids, they enjoyed it..

    I bet Fischer Stephens is praying they do not reboot it or he will have to apologize for playing an Indian person like Hank Azaria. :pac:

    He already has apologised! Aziz Ansari has specifically mentioned that character in various shows and interviews etc. The two ended up having a chat about it and Ansari was pretty forgiving... kinda saw it as a naïve young actor needing work in an unenlightened time. He definitely doesn't hold a grudge towards Stevens.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 29,713 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I get why some people don't like Gremlins 2 (I do like it - not quite as much as the first, but I deeply admire its wit and energy), but the one thing it can't be accused of is being a lazy or unimaginative franchise rehash. What it does rehash is done so mostly to set up gags and satirise itself.

    It's utterly wild and bizarre, more a Looney Toons feature in some ways than a Gremlins sequel - although it is a very meta, winking sort of sequel as well that rips the piss out of itself and its predecessor. But it certainly doesn't coast on the success of part one, and is a director saying 'you liked that? here's something completely different'. It is exactly the sort of sequel I want to see to popular films: fresh, imaginative and a bit unhinged. It's also exactly the sort of sequel we don't get very often, with the exception of outliers like Fury Road.

    Ghostbusters 2, in comparison, is 'more of the same, but worse'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,539 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Ghostbusters as a variation of "Stranger Things" is fine with me and arguably a pretty good approach for a sequel IMO; I know the Netflix show has burned out its goodwill through over-exposure, but " kids investigate spookiness in small-town America" is a pretty solid, engaging story format that connects well with the Ghostbusters world. Especially in a "passing the torch" approach, which seems to be the main vibe going on here. Ok, not very "New York" but apart from anything else that version of NY doesn't exist anymore anyway.

    When done right, a bunch of (usually outcast) kids pursuing a mystery in their home town is an excellent slice of entertainment that has never gone out of fashion since the days of Enid Blyton. I'm not convinced Sony will simply let this film BE mind you, and will probably interfere to the point of it becoming just another mush of CGI - but the bones of a good sequel are there.

    The first series of 'Stranger Things' was pretty great. Still is, if you take it as a one off, like I do. But they absolutely destroyed it by trying to milk more out if it, the dopey fuckers. But sure, you know how things go.

    But, for me, 'Ghostbusters' was an adult comedy that I was allowed to watch. I've never seen it as this kind of kids thing which it later became. The 1984 movie was not a kids movie at all. It's silly and stupid, but children wasn't it's original audience. Late teens and upwards were it's intended market and that was artificially expanded by parents that didn't know any better who brought the kiddies to what they thought was a silly, harmless, children's film.

    This is probably why I'm not that enthused about it now being "for the kids".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,885 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    py2006 wrote: »
    I have to kinda agree with that. Ghostbusters for me is as much about New York City as it is about anything else.

    When I first went to New York, I spent the entire time looking up and admiring the neo-gothic architecture mostly GB inspired. Love the Lincoln Building: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Grand_Central_Place


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,665 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Tony EH wrote: »
    Can't even get a glimmer of excitement up for this TBH. It all just looks like it's trying to do 'Ghostbusters' in a 'Stranger Things'/'It' fashion.

    But, it's odd. For me 'Ghostbusters' was just another film of the 80's. It's like 'Trading Places' or 'The Karate Kid'. I never got that it was a "franchise"...ugh, I hate that fucking word. It was a great little film that was the hit of the Christmas 1984, along with 'Gremlins'. But all it had was one very mediocre sequel and a couple of naff cartoons that didn't do anything for me, even as a kid.

    I spose I'll just never get the hype about it and there's nothing about this film that seems to be changing that.

    The only 80's based film Im hyped for is Top Gun 2 , because you know it will be a blast. Humor in particular I think just changes over time so making a film with the pressure of trying to re bottle the magic of the original is a big ask. The original was just that perfect mix of comedy with a hint of menace and was a masterpiece of tight editing and script writing.

    I dont think a new Trading Places would work either , it was very much a film of its time

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    I get why some people don't like Gremlins 2 (I do like it - not quite as much as the first, but I deeply admire its wit and energy), but the one thing it can't be accused of is being a lazy or unimaginative franchise rehash. What it does rehash is done so mostly to set up gags and satirise itself.

    It's utterly wild and bizarre, more a Looney Toons feature in some ways than a Gremlins sequel - although it is a very meta, winking sort of sequel as well that rips the piss out of itself and its predecessor. But it certainly doesn't coast on the success of part one, and is a director saying 'you liked that? here's something completely different'. It is exactly the sort of sequel I want to see to popular films: fresh, imaginative and a bit unhinged. It's also exactly the sort of sequel we don't get very often, with the exception of outliers like Fury Road.

    Ghostbusters 2, in comparison, is 'more of the same, but worse'.

    I think gremlins 2 is something different but nowhere near equal or good enough for the original. The premise is the same. Gizmo leaves his home, ends up with the same owner , gets wet and has a bunch of bad babies who go nuts , exact same story as the first. Except they are in a big office in a city that gives them access to all sorts of stuff. It’s not that radical, just a major shift in tone from the original; from more horror to slapstick comedy.

    Thing with sequels is that most I think people go to them to reconnect with what engaged them in the original. It’s part of why marvel movies do so well. Keep mostly same ingredients and introduce new characters with familiar characters, then have a standalone. It’s why non Snyder DC movies do well, people want familiarity.

    Alien and aliens or terminator 1 & 2 are probably some of the best examples of quality sequels that maybe even surpass the originals and both blended the best of the originals with some new ideas that were really well executed. I don’t see gremlins 2 as a comparable example of a movie that’s good simply because it’s off the wall different.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Trading Places could be transplanted to modern-day without losing too much context; not like issues of wealth inequality and race aren't still topical enough. Admittedly, it's a long time since I saw the original movie but the entire premise was about rich shítheads having a gentleman's wager an uneducated black man could succeed in their realm. That would absolutely still work; maybe the cigar & wingback chair tycoon types don't exist anymore. Rather, a remake could make good satirical hay from lampooning the Tech Bro type, brainlessly trying "outreach" as a bet.

    The problem would be more in line with all these remakes and conversations: you can't put the lightning back in the bottle, and once studio oversight hovers above a project; it's impossible to have the creative freedom that spawned the original when bean counters have the final say (see basically every 80s SciFi IP, including Ghostbusters, even if I'm more positively inclined).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,665 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Trading Places could be transplanted to modern-day without losing too much context; not like issues of wealth inequality and race aren't still topical enough. Admittedly, it's a long time since I saw the original movie but the entire premise was about rich shítheads having a gentleman's wager an uneducated black man could succeed in their realm. That would absolutely still work; maybe the cigar & wingback chair tycoon types don't exist anymore. Rather, a remake could make good satirical hay from lampooning the Tech Bro type, brainlessly trying "outreach" as a bet.

    The problem would be more in line with all these remakes and conversations: you can't put the lightning back in the bottle, and once studio oversight hovers above a project; it's impossible to have the creative freedom that spawned the original when bean counters have the final say (see basically every 80s SciFi IP, including Ghostbusters, even if I'm more positively inclined).

    there are certainly elements that could be used, I just dont think you could call it Trading Places .... Just seeing there is a Beverly Hills Cop 4 announced :pac:

    if old IP's are seen as financial assets that need to be sweated , even if they can churn some positive cashflows out of them though that seems dubious, it will just be a conveyor belt of sub par instantly forgettable films.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,539 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    What could they possibly do with a 'Beverly Hills Cop 4'? The joke in the first one is a Detroit cop in La La Land. But that's a busted flush. And doing something like 'Beverly Hills Cop 3' and setting it in a particular thing is a no no.

    It'll end up just being a straight to Netflix job (the new straight to video) and being instantly forgotten like 'Coming 2 America'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    silverharp wrote: »
    there are certainly elements that could be used, I just dont think you could call it Trading Places .... Just seeing there is a Beverly Hills Cop 4 announced :pac:

    if old IP's are seen as financial assets that need to be sweated , even if they can churn some positive cashflows out of them though that seems dubious, it will just be a conveyor belt of sub par instantly forgettable films.

    Wouid trading places work in the modern overly sensitive to words world? I can’t remember if there’s stuff that just wouldn’t be let go by the online eternally angry politically correct mob .

    It feels like blazing saddles just wouldn’t have a chance these days. South Park and their creators movies like team America are prob the closest we will get to “f*ck you political correctness” , it’s gas how they have almost cultivated an immunity to the PC mob.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Doesn't matter. One must feed the Nostalgia God.

    Content.

    Content.

    Only ever Content.

    Applaud ephemeral beings, here is a sequel to a film from your childhood. Buy this limited edition He-Man.

    (yeah I know I've been kinder to G3 and other sequels here, but there's a volume that's beginning to drown my enthusiasm. Space Jam 2 feels like we're truly circling the bottom of the pop-culture barrel)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Doesn't matter. One must feed the Nostalgia God.

    Content.

    Content.

    Only ever Content.

    Applaud ephemeral beings, here is a sequel to a film from your childhood. Buy this limited edition He-Man.

    (yeah I know I've been kinder to G3 and other sequels here, but there's a volume that's beginning to drown my enthusiasm. Space Jam 2 feels like we're truly circling the bottom of the pop-culture barrel)

    Without bad movies there can be no good movies.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,793 ✭✭✭FunLover18


    Drumpot wrote: »
    Wouid trading places work in the modern overly sensitive to words world? I can’t remember if there’s stuff that just wouldn’t be let go by the online eternally angry politically correct mob .

    It feels like blazing saddles just wouldn’t have a chance these days. South Park and their creators movies like team America are prob the closest we will get to “f*ck you political correctness” , it’s gas how they have almost cultivated an immunity to the PC mob.

    I haven't watched Blazing Saddles in a few years but I'm always slightly bemused when people say you couldn't make it nowadays. Aside from the use of the N word I don't remember much in it that's actually offensive, its a satire and racists and racism are more often than not the butt of the jokes. Maybe I need to rewatch it though.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Blazing Saddles could of course be made these days; maybe not by a white jewish guy, sure; but as you say FunLover it's so openly, brazenly critical of racists and racism in general you'd be doing well to misinterpret it. It's a weird strawman trotted out in defence of the right to say racist things (I know you Drumpot aren't yourself saying this) or the Todd Phillips of this world who lament the passing of "mean" comedy cos he can't make another Hangover film. Even the vaunted South Park doesn't go there AFAIK, bar circuitously such as the "Naggers" episode (which still makes me laugh TBH). While Always Sunny... shows that "non PC" comedy is alive and well (yes, I know the Lethal Weapon episode was removed from streaming services - that's another topic TBH). Meanwhile, shows like Rick & Morty push the envelope when it comes to "good taste"

    Seems like the only thing that has changed is that Punching Down isn't as easy and "harmless" as it used to; oh no, you can't make f&ggot jokes anymore (ironically, that's one element that DOES age Blazing saddles as IIRC there's a usage of it near the end), truly PC gone mad. Comedy styles chop and change, it's natural. You want proof, just read a Shakspeare "comedy", they're about as funny as a tax audit :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    don't think if this has been posted already but its got me excited


  • Registered Users Posts: 364 ✭✭doney84


    New Ghostbusters Afterlife trailer dropping tomorrow.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    Two potential reboots of a franchise this close together really reminds me of the piss-poor Terminator attempted revivals. Don't see any buzz for this at all. Finally, audiences seem to be turning away from endless reboots, although studios are persisting with them.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Well if it wasn't clear already, the trailer confirms this is leaning heavily into Stranger Things, Goosebumps and that distinct "precocious kids investigate small town mysteries" vibe ... and I'm 100% with that. Am a huge sucker for that sub-genre.

    Ok, maybe it's not matching the schlubby New Yoyk vibe of the originals but I really enjoyed that trailer; first and foremost it looks like an adventure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,960 ✭✭✭billyhead


    That looks like a lot of fun.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,793 ✭✭✭coolisin


    The trailer with Paul Rudd and the mini staypuft had me worried, but now in a little bit of context that looks like a bit of fun.

    Love the fact it appears like Janine is the Grandmother (did we know that already?)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    Hmmm, its missing....New York City!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,539 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    I think that poor Hard Finnwolf kid is doomed to be in productions that are only going to riff on 'Stranger Things' for the rest of his career. 😄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,844 ✭✭✭py2006


    She looks familiar...




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,665 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    If someone was hoping for a film to recapture the magic of the original Ghostbusters film, its not even trying. It might still do well as it only cost $50m , it just seems like a different thing like Spy Kids or something.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭Mr Crispy


    It reminded me of Super 8, which is odd as I found that film quite forgettable. 😄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,276 ✭✭✭readyletsgo


    Hmm, could be ok, stranger things and super 8 vibes from it as others have said.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,539 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Yeah, a 'Stranger Things' vibe.

    But not a 'Ghostbusters' one.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Perhaps but if the script is aiming towards a "next-generation" approach - which seems very likely by that trailer - it's not a completely horrendous idea to do so via a well-understood sibling genre like ... whatever ET/Goonies/Stranger Things etc. could be called.



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    Assuming thats Dan Akroyd at the end?



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