UFC 257 Poirier vs McGregor 2

weemcd · 22-01-2021 10:29pm

I did a bit of a write up as I occasionally am prone to as a bit of a hobby. Not entirely happy with it but might aswell share:

https://medium.com/@mcdamien88/mcgregor-v-poirier-ii-a-fresh-start-for-2021-e0ecf18f70a9

yourdeadwright · 22-01-2021 10:31pm

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They dont bother stacking McGregor cards because they domt have to for ot to make money
Also they will never have Conor on with another superstar or Champion (unless its against him) becuase they get a cut of the PPV and it doesnt make financial sesne,

py2006 · 22-01-2021 10:33pm

What time do we reckon his fight should start? *roughly

mailburner · 22-01-2021 11:10pm

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py2006 wrote: »

What time do we reckon his fight should start? *roughly

5am

.ak · 23-01-2021 12:37am

Watching the Poirer fight vs Hooker... man, Hooker unloads on him and stays swinging. You’ve got to wonder if Mcgregor can put him out in the first two rounds, Poirier has some chin.

At the same time, you a hot yo consider McGregor’s chin... he’s been rocked before, he’s definitely and slip n rip fighter rather than soak up damage. Poirier’s crew will be telling him he only has to get lucky once, McGregor may have to land a lot more to force a tko.

If McGregor unloads on him but Poirier weathers it, it could be a sticky situation for McGregor heading into Rd 3-5

I was impressed with some of Dustin’s creativity in the fight too, I think he’ll have some tricks up his sleeve. Having said that his combinations are incredibly predictable, and I imagine someone eith McGregor’s standing IQ he’ll read that handily enough, for example against Hooker it’s inside leg, straight left and an hook to finish ad nauseum.

I think it’s going to be an interesting fight. Don’t think it’ll be an easy ride for McGregor.

Having said that, McGregor relishes in working on new approaches and techniques - we saw glimpses in the few seconds against Cowboy but not enough to make any sort of decent analysis. I expect a measured approach but a bit of showmanship after the first 60 seconds or so. Be interesting to see what he comes up with.

TheChosenOne_ · 23-01-2021 12:52am

Thinking of trying the VPN and using that Dutch website to watch this PPV as i don't have a sky box.

Anyone ever tried it before and does it work?

Lucas Hood · 23-01-2021 1:13am

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TheChosenOne_ wrote: »

Thinking of trying the VPN and using that Dutch website to watch this PPV as i don't have a sky box.

Anyone ever tried it before and does it work?

Log on now and watch a replay of Wednesday or Saturdays card.

Lucas Hood · 23-01-2021 1:40am

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https://www.ufc.com/news/how-watch-ufc-257-poirier-vs-mcgregor-2-stream-links-start-times-and-fight-card

Official UFC 257 Broadcasters around the world.

Taking a trip to Netherlands tomorrow myself.

.ak · 23-01-2021 1:49am

Also I’ll be shouting for Hooker tomorrow for sure. Gas fella! Lovely striking technique too. Chandler is drip, but must be decent to be getting a shot this high up already? Anybody know much about him outside the UFC?

DuffleBag · 23-01-2021 1:53am

Lucas Hood wrote: »

https://www.ufc.com/news/how-watch-ufc-257-poirier-vs-mcgregor-2-stream-links-start-times-and-fight-card

Official UFC 257 Broadcasters around the world.

Taking a trip to Netherlands tomorrow myself.

Why netherlands? Tried the website it has there and couldn't find any details about how to order etc on it. Also what VPNs are people using? I have tunnelbear but only the free version

Lucas Hood · 23-01-2021 1:56am

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DuffleBag wrote: »

Why netherlands? Tried the website it has there and couldn't find any details about how to order etc on it

Its free if you're in the Netherlands with usual English commendatory. No sign up just a couple of ads before it starts.

https://www.kijk.nl/programmas/ufc/gIKqbuiSm1v/seizoen/173733928305/afleveringen/video/ufc-257/pKbeVQczVVi

Theres also s sport if you're in turkey which is €1.10 to order but you need to setup an account and i don't know if they have English commentary.

YoYo2021 · 23-01-2021 2:02am

Will_I_Regret wrote: »

Finally found a way to purchase this legally without Sky!! Can I post here as it involves using a VPN?

Do you mind letting me know how you found out to watch this legally?

Under normal circumstances I would go home and watch it with the family who have Sky. I am currently living in Dublin there are a lot of people in apartment blocks who cant get Sky as they need to install a dish and its only Virgin that is available.

Today I have talked to a few friends and there are a disgraceful amount of house parties organized for tomorrow. I have spoken to four people going and all of them have told me that they would 100% buy it if it was available.

So if you have a legal way of getting this please let me know!

moneyman · 23-01-2021 2:05am

YoYo2021 wrote: »

Do you mind letting me know how you found out to watch this legally?

Under normal circumstances I would go home and watch it with the family who have Sky. I am currently living in Dublin there are a lot of people in apartment blocks who cant get Sky as they need to install a dish and its only Virgin that is available.

Today I have talked to a few friends and there are a disgraceful amount of house parties organized for tomorrow. I have spoken to four people going and all of them have told me that they would 100% buy it if it was available.

So if you have a legal way of getting this please let me know!

Nice try, Dana

simongurnick · 23-01-2021 2:28am

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.ak wrote: »

Also I’ll be shouting for Hooker tomorrow for sure. Gas fella! Lovely striking technique too. Chandler is drip, but must be decent to be getting a shot this high up already? Anybody know much about him outside the UFC?

Chandler won LW title in bellator, lost it, then won it back. Had a couple good scraps with Eddie Alvarez. Just hard to determine how good he is against the calibre of.opposition in bellator. Good wrestling pedigree,.but hooker is long and awkward and may not be dominated easily.
Wouldn't claim to know loads about Chandler but the two styles make it a real interesting fight.
Hooker is having a great time over there though

simongurnick · 23-01-2021 2:30am

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.ak wrote: »

Watching the Poirer fight vs Hooker... man, Hooker unloads on him and stays swinging. You’ve got to wonder if Mcgregor can put him out in the first two rounds, Poirier has some chin.

At the same time, you a hot yo consider McGregor’s chin... he’s been rocked before, he’s definitely and slip n rip fighter rather than soak up damage. Poirier’s crew will be telling him he only has to get lucky once, McGregor may have to land a lot more to force a tko.

If McGregor unloads on him but Poirier weathers it, it could be a sticky situation for McGregor heading into Rd 3-5

I was impressed with some of Dustin’s creativity in the fight too, I think he’ll have some tricks up his sleeve. Having said that his combinations are incredibly predictable, and I imagine someone eith McGregor’s standing IQ he’ll read that handily enough, for example against Hooker it’s inside leg, straight left and an hook to finish ad nauseum.

I think it’s going to be an interesting fight. Don’t think it’ll be an easy ride for McGregor.

Having said that, McGregor relishes in working on new approaches and techniques - we saw glimpses in the few seconds against Cowboy but not enough to make any sort of decent analysis. I expect a measured approach but a bit of showmanship after the first 60 seconds or so. Be interesting to see what he comes up with.

Conor's chin? I think he had a great chin. Its one thing to get rocked, another thing to getting ko'd. Khabib caught him with a overhand right haymaker, didn't get down. Nate clipped him a few times in fight 2, even floyd clocked him but he still didn't go down. I think his chin is as good as it can be.

Mellor · 23-01-2021 2:38am

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Lucas Hood wrote: »

If you have to use a VPN you can get if for free legally in Netherlands.

If you using a VPN to get the card, whether paid or free, I don’t think it legal.

Still Ill · 23-01-2021 5:28am

simongurnick wrote: »

Conor's chin? I think he had a great chin. Its one thing to get rocked, another thing to getting ko'd. Khabib caught him with a overhand right haymaker, didn't get down. Nate clipped him a few times in fight 2, even floyd clocked him but he still didn't go down. I think his chin is as good as it can be.

Nate stunned him with a jab in the first fight though. That, combined with fatigue.

Mellor · 23-01-2021 7:08am

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Dustin confirms Conor is donating $500k to his Good Fight Foundation as promised back when they talked about this as a charity fight.

walshb · 23-01-2021 9:14am

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simongurnick wrote: »

Conor's chin? I think he had a great chin. Its one thing to get rocked, another thing to getting ko'd. Khabib caught him with a overhand right haymaker, didn't get down. Nate clipped him a few times in fight 2, even floyd clocked him but he still didn't go down. I think his chin is as good as it can be.

Almost went down..

That the shot were Conor wobbled backwards and almost went down?

Looked more clipping than real solid to me.. Conor took some of the sting out of it.

EagererBeaver · 23-01-2021 10:00am

simongurnick wrote: »

Chandler won LW title in bellator, lost it, then won it back. Had a couple good scraps with Eddie Alvarez. Just hard to determine how good he is against the calibre of.opposition in bellator. Good wrestling pedigree,.but hooker is long and awkward and may not be dominated easily.
Wouldn't claim to know loads about Chandler but the two styles make it a real interesting fight.
Hooker is having a great time over there though

Chandler is very good. He's actually won the Bellator belt on, I think, three different occasions. Has also lost it on three occasions as well...although one of those he got a bad ankle injury and it was called off. Got KOed by Pitbull to lose it most recently though.

callaway92 · 23-01-2021 10:02am

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Gonna be a demolition in McGregor’s favour here.

Poirier half gonna lie down for him - mentally not near his level and is falling into playing the buddy-buddy thing.

JoeExotic81 · 23-01-2021 10:56am

Even though it's ridiculous money for what might be just two fights, one which may not last a round, I'm gonna be a sucker and stump up. Fvck all else to look forward to these days :pac:

Any tips on what other fights, even on the prelims, might stand out or be worth an interest?

Kind of enjoying the respectful vibe in the leadup. Be a good test for McGregor to see if he's still capable of his A game. I really didn't put much worth into beating cerrone, but there's no doubting Dustin is a whole other level.

Lucas Hood · 23-01-2021 10:58am

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Mellor wrote: »

If you using a VPN to get the card, whether paid or free, I don’t think it legal.

Use of a vpn isn't illegal. Immoral maybe.

derfderf · 23-01-2021 11:03am

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froog wrote: »

whatever happened to stacking the big cards? aside from the main fight the rest of the card is pretty muck.

Well Conor doesn't want other fighters earning big ppv points off his back, so that rules out title fight.

HBC08 · 23-01-2021 11:06am

McGregor taking gimme fights against 14/1 outsiders.
That's the measure of the man.

moneyman · 23-01-2021 11:37am

HBC08 wrote: »

McGregor taking gimme fights against 14/1 outsiders.
That's the measure of the man.

It's fight day people! Experts like this one will be dropping some knowledge on us for the next 48 hours!

EltonJohn69 · 23-01-2021 11:39am

Round 1 win for Connor with a quick belly buster with the left. Put the cash on it now before the bookies get wise.

Whelo79 · 23-01-2021 11:39am

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HBC08 wrote: »

McGregor taking gimme fights against 14/1 outsiders.
That's the measure of the man.

I dOnt LiKe cONor sO I wAstE mY tIme pOStinG NOnSensE on fOruMS abOuT HIm.

Ush1 · 23-01-2021 11:40am

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

Round 1 win for Connor with a quick belly buster with the left. Put the cash on it now before the bookies get wise.

Thanks Elton John, like your music also.

Bigmac1euro · 23-01-2021 11:41am

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My opinion is this ends round 1.
It’s more than likely not going past round 2.

Whelo79 · 23-01-2021 11:46am

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Episode 6 of Embedded is up and I have to say Dustin looks absolutely rattled waiting backstage to go out for the ceremonial weigh ins. His words do not match his body language at all. It's like he is trying to convince himself that he belongs there.

mdwexford · 23-01-2021 11:54am

callaway92 wrote: »

Poirier half gonna lie down for him.

What a disrespectful stupid thing to say.

HBC08 wrote: »

McGregor taking gimme fights against 14/1 outsiders.
That's the measure of the man.

Is that a price you are offering on Dustin, I’ll have €50 on please.

akelly02 · 23-01-2021 11:54am

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Whelo79 wrote: »

Episode 6 of Embedded is up and I have to say Dustin looks absolutely rattled waiting backstage to go out for the ceremonial weigh ins. His words do not match his body language at all. It's like he is trying to convince himself that he belongs there.

Agree, he was all over the shop .

I think hes actually accepted it In his head that hes going to lose

.ak · 23-01-2021 12:00pm

Meh, I just think he’s not good with the fan fare, I think he’ll be formidable enough once in the ring.

sonofenoch · 23-01-2021 12:04pm

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HBC08 wrote: »

McGregor taking gimme fights against 14/1 outsiders.
That's the measure of the man.

Fuksake......at least wait till he wins! who knows Poirier might win and he'll be the best fighter since sliced bread

.ak · 23-01-2021 12:09pm

simongurnick wrote: »

Conor's chin? I think he had a great chin. Its one thing to get rocked, another thing to getting ko'd. Khabib caught him with a overhand right haymaker, didn't get down. Nate clipped him a few times in fight 2, even floyd clocked him but he still didn't go down. I think his chin is as good as it can be.

What you’re describing for me is not a good chin. Conor is great at not taking a clean slap, but when he has he’s been wobbled.

For me, a good chin is what you see from Poirier vs Hooker for example, or Diaz bro’s, Penn, Henderson, Sanchez, Lawler, guys who can take square shots and still walk forward.

Conor’s chin is not in that league. That’s not a bad thing, he’s a fighter who avoids damage and I find that far more skilful than a fighter who just walks through damage. But there’s no denying he’s been wobbled on his feet with single shots. Even Mendes hurt him there when he foolishly lowered his guard to taunt him.

If Poirier gets a shot off on him like did against Justin then McGregor could be in trouble. I think Conor needs to be careful with his range ala Alvarez fight.

derfderf · 23-01-2021 12:14pm

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.ak wrote: »

What you’re describing for me is not a good chin. Conor is great at not taking a clean slap, but when he has he’s been wobbled.

For me, a good chin is what you see from Poirier vs Hooker for example, or Diaz bro’s, Penn, Henderson, Sanchez, Lawler, guys who can take square shots and still walk forward.

Conor’s chin is not in that league. That’s not a bad thing, he’s a fighter who avoids damage and I find that far more skilful than a fighter who just walks through damage. But there’s no denying he’s been wobbled on his feet with single shots. Even Mendes hurt him there when he foolishly lowered his guard to taunt him.

If Poirier gets a shot off on him like did against Justin then McGregor could be in trouble. I think Conor needs to be careful with his range ala Alvarez fight.

Why are you listing several fighters that have been knocked out many times?

Zero-Cool · 23-01-2021 12:18pm

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Just rewatch Mendes fight if you want to see Conor's chin on display. He took some big clean shots in that and just asked for more.

mailburner · 23-01-2021 12:19pm

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callaway92 wrote: »

Gonna be a demolition in McGregor’s favour here.

Poirier half gonna lie down for him - mentally not near his level and is falling into playing the buddy-buddy thing.

There's something not right about Poirier here.
It looks to me like he's happy to have the fight but I don't think he
believes he can win this.

He's well able for a war here if his head is right but just a gut feeling he
won't have the stomach for it.
I feel if Conor got into his head like the first fight that he'd still have Dustin beaten before the fight starts....

I do however hope I'm miles off and I'd love to see Dustin win

mailburner · 23-01-2021 12:24pm

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Hooker surely has the beating of chandler if mc can't get him down

he looked great v dp winning the first two rounds but tiring late on so a 3 round fight should be perfect for him
He also won 2 of the first 3 rounds v felder tho one judge gave him all three
He'll be so so hard to beat here given how much he's improved between fights also

Like someone else said here I'd love to see both win and they are both good guys though I especially love Hookers enthusiasm

He's a lad you've love to have a pint with..

Dermobrickie · 23-01-2021 1:05pm

Will_I_Regret wrote: »

Finally found a way to purchase this legally without Sky!! Can I post here as it involves using a VPN?

Can u pm me details?

vafankillar · 23-01-2021 1:06pm

I never bet & dont understand odds but was gonna throws few quid against mcgregor. Surprised the odds werent more in mcgregors favour. Only get like 30 if you bet a 10. Thought mcgregor was much more favourite than that

Maybe I'm just skewed cos I've only bet on a few rugby matches before

Whelo79 · 23-01-2021 1:18pm

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vafankillar wrote: »

I never bet & dont understand odds but was gonna throws few quid against mcgregor. Surprised the odds werent more in mcgregors favour. Only get like 30 if you bet a 10. Thought mcgregor was much more favourite than that

Maybe I'm just skewed cos I've only bet on a few rugby matches before

You are getting the favourite at 2/1 in a two horse race, they are great odds.

23-01-2021 1:23pm

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vafankillar wrote: »

I never bet & dont understand odds but was gonna throws few quid against mcgregor. Surprised the odds werent more in mcgregors favour. Only get like 30 if you bet a 10. Thought mcgregor was much more favourite than that

Maybe I'm just skewed cos I've only bet on a few rugby matches before

Where are you getting those odds?

Gamb!t · 23-01-2021 1:28pm

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Zero-Cool wrote: »

Just rewatch Mendes fight if you want to see Conor's chin on display. He took some big clean shots in that and just asked for more.

Rogan even said he could take a punch in that fight.

simongurnick · 23-01-2021 1:48pm

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vafankillar wrote: »

I never bet & dont understand odds but was gonna throws few quid against mcgregor. Surprised the odds werent more in mcgregors favour. Only get like 30 if you bet a 10. Thought mcgregor was much more favourite than that

Maybe I'm just skewed cos I've only bet on a few rugby matches before

Hey man. Conor is 1/3 to win the fight, so bet 30 to win 10, not the opposite. Now you can also bet on how he will win, what round etc. I even saw 8/1 that he wins in 60 seconds. (Bet 10, win 80).
Anyway, if you just want a small bet for a bit of fun maybe pick something with decent odds. Less likely to happen , but anything can happen in the fight game.

simongurnick · 23-01-2021 1:51pm

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Gamb!t wrote: »

Rogan even said he could take a punch in that fight.

He can take a punch for sure. Wouldn't say his chin is granite but it isnt glass either. He's no Amir Khan for example.
Now Dustin has power but not one punch power, although anyone can go down if clipped right.
He's a good volume puncher as he showed against eddie, hooker and max. I just think if it turns into that kind of fight then conor will be landing too. He's a classic counter puncher and we know how that ends.

simongurnick · 23-01-2021 1:54pm

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JoeExotic81 wrote: »

Even though it's ridiculous money for what might be just two fights, one which may not last a round, I'm gonna be a sucker and stump up. Fvck all else to look forward to these days :pac:

Any tips on what other fights, even on the prelims, might stand out or be worth an interest?

Kind of enjoying the respectful vibe in the leadup. Be a good test for McGregor to see if he's still capable of his A game. I really didn't put much worth into beating cerrone, but there's no doubting Dustin is a whole other level.

Well, if you are paying for it I'd watch the whole card. It will be 2 to 3 hours of entertainment.
The co main should be good and I'm also looking forward to the two women's fights.
Having said that, the first three fights last weekend all had crazy ko's, so we could be in for another treat.
Enjoy

shatners bassoon · 23-01-2021 1:59pm

Lucas Hood wrote: »

https://www.ufc.com/news/how-watch-ufc-257-poirier-vs-mcgregor-2-stream-links-start-times-and-fight-card

Official UFC 257 Broadcasters around the world.

Taking a trip to Netherlands tomorrow myself.

Did anyone do this for the Holloway fight? What was the quality like?

Lucas Hood · 23-01-2021 2:06pm

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shatners bassoon wrote: »

Did anyone do this for the Holloway fight? What was the quality like?

I didn't watch it all on there as I have normal bt but turned it on and it was fine with same english commentary as BT.

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