UFC 257 Poirier vs McGregor 2

simongurnick

McGregor by Sub

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Some great interviews today.

Watch for the prank JK pulls on Roddy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkktWqefURA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwksePrRp1k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Viw2F_yJM4Q

John mentioned in that Ariel interview that Conor has been training orthodox. Is that a slip from John or is he playing some mind games?

yourdeadwright

McGregor by Sub

simongurnick wrote: »

John mentioned in that Ariel interview that Conor has been training orthodox. Is that a slip from John or is he playing some mind games?

Its a running joke he always throws in these little "hints" is it a bluff or double bluff

walshb

Poirier by Sub

We expecting Dustin or Conor to come into the Octagon heavier?

What we looking at? 165-168 for Conor?

yourdeadwright

McGregor by Sub

walshb wrote: »

We expecting Dustin or Conor to come into the Octagin heavier?

What we looking at? 165-168 for Conor?

I reckon Dustin will be heavier,
He's a much thicker man than Conor,
Hooker said Dustin weighed 182.9 the night of there fight he , not sure how he knows that are they weighed again ?
I just seen he said they where weighed again fight night

walshb

Poirier by Sub

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I reckon Dustin will be heavier,
He's a much thicker man than Conor,
Hooker said Dustin weighed 182.9 the night of there fight he , not sure how he knows that are they weighed again ?

Yes, read that

Obscene weight gain that in what, 24-30 hours or so....

eurokev

Poirier on Pts

Predict Mcgregor to be quiet and respectful all the way through, interviews and weigh ins, so Dustin will be at ease.
Then, when they are facing off in the octagon about to fight, Mcgregor will do the same thing - karate pose and calling Dustin forward with his hand.
Dustin's head will be gone from there and Mcgregor will make short work of him

Zero-Cool

McGregor by Sub

Press conference is on tomorrow at 1pm, weigh in ceremony at 3pm Friday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4KdyXrvB3w

MrStuffins

McGregor by Sub

I was in the arena for the first fight @ UFC 178. The lead up was classic McGregor.

He had christened Dustin "Peahead" and it really got inside Poirier's head.

Different kettle of fish now. I'm picking Conor but I think this fight will be closer than people think.

walshb

Poirier by Sub

If Conor can’t take Dustin out I expect it to be a very competitive fight for as long as it goes.

Could McGregor be quite tired come rds 4/5 should Dustin be still there fighting..?

moneyman

walshb wrote: »

If Conor can’t take Dustin out I expect it to be a very competitive fight for as long as it goes.

Could McGregor be quite tired come rds 4/5 should Dustin be still there fighting..?

More than likely, yes. I don't really buy that Conor's cardio could improve to such an extent that it could be on par with the likes of Poirier/Diaz etc in the later rounds, particularly if he hasn't had it all his way to that point. It's a weakness, largely due to his explosive style. His punches never have pop when we've seen him in rounds 4 And 5, and his footwork and movement are seriously slowed by that point also. That's normal to a degree but it seems to affect Conor more than others.

I think he has a good chance of finishing Dustin within the first two rounds regardless. But if it goes to the later rounds nothing will surprise me.

yourdeadwright

McGregor by Sub

moneyman wrote: »

More than likely, yes. I don't really buy that Conor's cardio could improve to such an extent that it could be on par with the likes of Poirier/Diaz etc in the later rounds, particularly if he hasn't had it all his way to that point. It's a weakness, largely due to his explosive style. His punches never have pop when we've seen him in rounds 4 And 5, and his footwork and movement are seriously slowed by that point also. That's normal to a degree but it seems to affect Conor more than others.

I think he has a good chance of finishing Dustin within the first two rounds regardless. But if it goes to the later rounds nothing will surprise me.

I don't buy the cardio issues talk ,

Came about after Diaz 1, he was fighting at Welter weight and had only 3 month previous been fighting at Feather weight so you can see how that would cause cardo issues when he was trying to get a bigger man out of there like he did feather weights ,, he also got hurt by a shot from Diaz

Then you have the Floyd fight where he lasted 30 minutes in his first boxing match against one of the greatest to ever do it,

Against Khabib he lasted longer than Dustin and even won the 3rd round and now he seems in better shape than that,

Can he lose yes of course but I don't buy the bad cardio story ,

Is he more dangerous early yes but I don't think he has cardio "problems"

akelly02

McGregor by Sub

porier will be thinking 'get to round 3 and i beat this guy'

still think he gets finished early though, i just hope its not 40 seconds

yourdeadwright

McGregor by Sub

akelly02 wrote: »

porier will be thinking 'get to round 3 and i beat this guy'

still think he gets finished early though, i just hope its not 40 seconds

He has basically said as much that he will try not to engage early the problem is if he does not "engage" how does he expect Conor to tire ?

Its not like Conor will chase him swinging wild shots and miss he is way more measured , The perception is that Conor tired fighting Diaz & even if that is true Diaz took an absolute pasting before that happened , He was also on the deck and Conor let him up afraid of his guard if Dustin hits the deck Conor will be all over him ,

I think Dustin's only chance is to hurt Conor in an exchange ,

Still Ill

I think the cardio problem is very real. Does he possess KO power after round 2? Not that I've seen.

yourdeadwright

McGregor by Sub

Still Ill wrote: »

I think the cardio problem is very real. Does he possess KO power after round 2? Not that I've seen.

Well he has only gone past round 2 3 times
Holloway on one leg ,and Max has never been stopped by strikes,
Khabib hard to tell as he mauls everyone,
Diaz who has only ever been stopped once with a cracking shin to the head,

Conor has only lost once when he gone past round 2 and that was to the GOAT

I just don't see any real evidence of the cardio "problem" , but yes he is more likely to KO you early ,

LollipopJimmy

McGregor by Sub

A very different fight night for me. Normally I'm out and come home to watch or have the lads round. This time I intend early to bed Saturday, get up at 3am for the main card, I'll watch the prelims during the week.

Going to get a fry in and time it so that I'm wiping up the last of the egg as I hear 'here we go!'

akelly02

McGregor by Sub

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

A very different fight night for me. Normally I'm out and come home to watch or have the lads round. This time I intend early to bed Saturday, get up at 3am for the main card, I'll watch the prelims during the week.

Going to get a fry in and time it so that I'm wiping up the last of the egg as I hear 'here we go!'

same , scrambled eggs for me .

my scrambled egg game is like no other , im untouchable at the moment i feel.

i mean gordon ramsey is good, but he is still levels below me .

a focused me takes over the whole egg game in fact, fried , boiled , poached, i take them all.

derfderf

McGregor by Sub

Dustin doesn't have Diaz cardio. He can make to the end of a fight, but he loses some pop in his shots too. He was smashing Max at the start of their fight, Max's only success came in the later rounds.

Still Ill

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Well he has only gone past round 2 3 times
Holloway on one leg ,and Max has never been stopped by strikes,
Khabib hard to tell as he mauls everyone,
Diaz who has only ever been stopped once with a cracking shin to the head,

Conor has only lost once when he gone past round 2 and that was to the GOAT

I just don't see any real evidence of the cardio "problem" , but yes he is more likely to KO you early ,

Ah yeah, I know that, but I don't think there was any power in his punches in the third round V Khabib and may not be hugely relevant, but there was definitely nothing in his punches after the third v Mayweather.

Anyway, I expect him to get it done within two v Poirier regardless

simongurnick

McGregor by Sub

akelly02 wrote: »

same , scrambled eggs for me .

my scrambled egg game is like no other , im untouchable at the moment i feel.

i mean gordon ramsey is good, but he is still levels below me .

a focused me takes over the whole egg game in fact, fried , boiled , poached, i take them all.

You'll poach nuthin!

Dave0301

Some good lines in there about the posters from McGregor.

Whelo79

McGregor by Sub

Nice and friendly all around in the press conference so far.

Conor is definetly showing the weight cut in his face already I reckon. Dustin too but less so.

dave1982

As much as I hate to say it, conor coming across very well in presser. Looking for khabibs belt to stripped after for inactivity after 3month is ironic. Other than that he seems like nice fella

but1er

anyone else think Dustin looked wrecked? could be the time difference or the weight but i cant see anything past conor inside 2

walshb

Poirier by Sub

dave1982 wrote: »

Other than that he seems like nice fella

Really?:P

Whelo79

McGregor by Sub

dave1982 wrote: »

Looking for khabibs belt to stripped after for inactivity after 3month is ironic.

And the fact that Khabib has said he is retired and was non committal to a comeback. Dana stripped Henry Cejudo's belt quick enough when he retired in the octagon.

It's all just McGregor putting pressure on Khabib to commit to the rematch.

akelly02

McGregor by Sub

Whelo79 wrote: »

And the fact that Khabib has said he is retired and was non committal to a comeback. Dana stripped Henry Cejudo's belt quick enough when he retired in the octagon.

It's all just McGregor putting pressure on Khabib to commit to the rematch.

i think the rematch will be iconic

he has to come back !

please come back khabib!

akelly02

McGregor by Sub

i seen some video of that press conference, porier does NOT look confident.

shatners bassoon

Fascinates me to read takes like this.

Poirier looked totally comfortable. Mcgregor is rocking the crack addict look early this time.

The Nal

Poirier looks very calm. McGregor already looking past him.

akelly02

McGregor by Sub

shatners bassoon wrote: »

Fascinates me to read takes like this.

Poirier looked totally comfortable. Mcgregor is rocking the crack addict look early this time.

im in work so cant play the sound, but i honestly thought he didnt look sure of himself

and this is coming from a lad that hates all this 'mental warfare' bullshiite

I don't think CMcGregors mam is well at all. when that guy read out the 2013 quote as soon as he mention his mam, Mcgregor winced and try to fight back emotion.

I hope she's ok anyway.

It was a bit lovey dovey for me but still a good conference and again, I really think he's in a good place away from all them scum bags, at least for now.

akelly02

akelly02 wrote: »

same , scrambled eggs for me .

my scrambled egg game is like no other , im untouchable at the moment i feel.

i mean gordon ramsey is good, but he is still levels below me .

a focused me takes over the whole egg game in fact, fried , boiled , poached, i take them all.

funniest post I've seen in a while...:D

ASOT

Really enjoyed the latest embedded and the presser

yourdeadwright

McGregor by Sub

Not sure if Conor suit was to big or if he looked very gaunt already , He looked fragile
I also think Dustin looked extremely nervous ,

akelly02

McGregor by Sub

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Not sure if Conor suit was to big or if he looked very gaunt already , He looked fragile
I also think Dustin looked extremely nervous ,

i agree ... porier looked deflated or something.


its weird, not as if mcgregor done anything to get in his head or anything

yourdeadwright

McGregor by Sub

akelly02 wrote: »

i agree ... porier looked deflated or something.


its weird, not as if mcgregor done anything to get in his head or anything

He looked like someone who felt inferior ,

akelly02

McGregor by Sub

yourdeadwright wrote: »

He looked like someone who felt inferior ,

he is

The banter when he was signing the posters was funny, "neither is poor Dustin either" gas stuff, uniquely Irish lets be honest.

Dustin knows what a smack feels like so he'll get a hard one and then he'll be gun shy from the exchanges.. as a wise man once said

"Fear causes hesitation and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true"

...Patrick swayze..Point break..

walshb

Poirier by Sub

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Not sure if Conor suit was to big or if he looked very gaunt already , He looked fragile
I also think Dustin looked extremely nervous ,

Yes.

Conor looked to be the man in charge alright....

Anyway....it matters most in the cage....

bmcc10

walshb wrote: »

Yes.

Conor looked to be the man in charge alright....

Anyway....it matters most in the cage....

It's not hard when most questions are directed towards you. People think way too much into these things.

El Guapo!

McGregor by Sub

Hard to see past a McGregor win here.

Conor seems confident as ever, albeit a bit more reserved and humble than we're used to seeing.

Dustin, while a much improved fighter since their last meeting, is still a level below Conor in my opinion. Add that to the fact he looks mentally beaten/nervous and I think he's in for a difficult night. I don't think his head is in it.

Poirier is a great fighter and, by all accounts, a decent guy but I think he'll be hurt early, cover up, and be stopped within a round.

Whelo79

McGregor by Sub

The more I see of Dan Hooker the more I like him. He seems like a really down to earth guy. Always really shilled, honest and having a laugh in all his interviews.


A bit of fresh air compared to some of the more dry personalities we often get in MMA.

yourdeadwright

McGregor by Sub

bmcc10 wrote: »

It's not hard when most questions are directed towards you. People think way too much into these things.

That depends sometimes you can see a man's confidence before a fight and sometimes you can see a man in turmoil and it can matter .

A great one that showed it can matter and at the same time not matter happened in the same fight ,

When Groves fought Froch the first time,

Froch was a mess and he didn't do anything alarming but you could just see Gorves really got to him and it translated into the start of the fight,

Froch was so tense and nervous Groves caught him early and nearly won because of it but then the other side kicked in once he got a few smacks and settled into the reality of the fact it was just another fight kicked in and he fought his ass of to come back into the fight,

Problem in MMA is because of the small gloves & the fact they can smack you on the deck you often don't get the chance to re-set your mind ,

Mindset at the highest level is what sets the very best apart ,

AlmightyCushion

moneyman wrote: »

More than likely, yes. I don't really buy that Conor's cardio could improve to such an extent that it could be on par with the likes of Poirier/Diaz etc in the later rounds, particularly if he hasn't had it all his way to that point. It's a weakness, largely due to his explosive style. His punches never have pop when we've seen him in rounds 4 And 5, and his footwork and movement are seriously slowed by that point also. That's normal to a degree but it seems to affect Conor more than others.

I think he has a good chance of finishing Dustin within the first two rounds regardless. But if it goes to the later rounds nothing will surprise me.

McGregor threw and landed more shots than Diaz in round 4. It was even McGregor's busiest round. In the 5th, they both had relatively low output but they spent a good chunk of that round in the clinch or attempting/fighting off takedowns, if I remember right.

H8GHOTI

McGregor by Sub

What’s the story with the glasses on McGregor? Just for fashion or what?

H8GHOTI

McGregor by Sub

Whelo79 wrote: »

The more I see of Dan Hooker the more I like him. He seems like a really down to earth guy. Always really shilled, honest and having a laugh in all his interviews.


A bit of fresh air compared to some of the more dry personalities we often get in MMA.

Ya always laughing. My first time really watching him this week & seems like good craic alright.

He didn’t get asked much today but that line about Charles Oliveira was very good & it’s true. Thought maybe a bit soon after the Ferguson fight for him but the weight excuse I did think was strange.

H8GHOTI

McGregor by Sub

Whelo79 wrote: »

And the fact that Khabib has said he is retired and was non committal to a comeback. Dana stripped Henry Cejudo's belt quick enough when he retired in the octagon.

It's all just McGregor putting pressure on Khabib to commit to the rematch.

He’s been at it all week, every interview, doing his best to goad Khabib into a rematch and make himself sound good too.

McGregors reply about his “announcement” was class - Khabib didn’t say that, Dana said that. I actually started laughing. He knows Dana, how he lies & likes to spin things.

walshb

Poirier by Sub

bmcc10 wrote: »

It's not hard when most questions are directed towards you. People think way too much into these things.

I was meaning the face off...

Duff

McGregor by Sub

Best bit on the latest Embedded is Conor Jr. - "And a birra red sauce" :pac: :pac: