vasectomy

Wabbit Ears · 20-04-2021 11:27pm

TBH Id rather not say who the clinic was because they were really great throughout and this wasn't their fault.

The horror was an infection and A hematoma.

deeks · 21-04-2021 9:48am

Fair enough. Hope all is ok now.

Wabbit Ears · 21-04-2021 5:09pm

deeks wrote: »

Fair enough. Hope all is ok now.

Grand now bar my balls are still a shade of purple months later and the scars itch a lot.

seamus · 21-04-2021 11:42pm

Supercell wrote: »

Lads, whats it like when you have "that moment of joy" with your partner once its all healed up, is it the same, painful? Where does the stuff go if the pipes are closed? Wifey making noises here about getting it done as we have enough kids as it is.

It's the same, man.

Sperm makes up only about 5% of the volume of what's released in your "moment" of joy. Only the vas deferens are closed off, the rest of the plumbing remains intact. So the moment itself is for all intents and purposes identical to how it was before. Same consistency, same volume, same experience.

The testicles themselves have an internal "recycling" facility that goes on all the time regardless. So the sperm doesn't "go" anywhere, it just gets recycled by the body.

Vicxas · 23-04-2021 5:06pm

Can anyone explain to me how women get pregnant after a vasectomy?

Is it just a poorly executed job or the tube heals itself?

Myself and the wife (not to her knowledge yet) are considering it but i want to know all the consequences

giveitholly · 23-04-2021 11:21pm

Supercell wrote: »

Lads, whats it like when you have "that moment of joy" with your partner once its all healed up, is it the same, painful? Where does the stuff go if the pipes are closed? Wifey making noises here about getting it done as we have enough kids as it is.

That moment of joy is better than ever,would highly recommend it,wife will appreciate it and things will improve in the bed

randomname2005 · 24-04-2021 9:26am

Vicxas wrote: »

Can anyone explain to me how women get pregnant after a vasectomy?

Is it just a poorly executed job or the tube heals itself?

Myself and the wife (not to her knowledge yet) are considering it but i want to know all the consequences

It depends on when she got pregnant- was the sample confirmed okay and was enough time left before the sample was submitted?
If yes, Was the male checked again after the pregnancy to make sure it is his?

The doc explained to me it is contraception not sterilisation, something in the range of 1 in 1000 which is significantly better than condoms and other forms of contraception

seamus · 24-04-2021 9:36am

Vicxas wrote: »

Can anyone explain to me how women get pregnant after a vasectomy?

Is it just a poorly executed job or the tube heals itself?

Most post-vasectomy pregnancies occur because the couple didn't wait long enough and/or get a sperm count done before having unprotected sex. Failed vasectomies are very rare and can be either because the doctor left one of the vas wholly or partially intact, or because there was a regrowth.

Many doctors cauterise the vas and use a titanium clip to seal it off, which in theory means that even with a regrowth, there should be no issue.

Although it is contraception, it's not really the same thing. The failure rate is the failure rate of the vasectomy. Whereas with contraception, it's a failure rate for the method.

So for condoms at 90% effectiveness, you're running the risk that a condom will fail one out of ten times you use one.

The vasectomy failure rate is per vasectomy, not per ejaculation. So if yours has been successful, you're not at 1/2,000 risk of pregnancy every time you have sex.

Snotty · 27-04-2021 8:29am

What's the pain like the days after a Dr John McCormick procedure, would a 5km walk on the beach be possible or too much?

paul_booth_fan · 27-04-2021 8:51am

Snotty wrote: »

What's the pain like the days after a Dr John McCormick procedure, would a 5km walk on the beach be possible or too much?

You could genuinely go for a 5km walk immediately after the procedure, a few days later you'll be fine. Don't exert yourself too much obviously, but it wouldn't be an issue.

Snotty · 27-04-2021 8:28pm

paul_booth_fan wrote: »

You could genuinely go for a 5km walk immediately after the procedure, a few days later you'll be fine. Don't exert yourself too much obviously, but it wouldn't be an issue.

Brilliant, I'll push it further, do you think a 5km lite jog or maybe a round of golf would be possible the next day.
I have the day after booked off work and don't really fancy sitting in the house on my own and if I knew I'd be OK I'd organise something

paul_booth_fan · 27-04-2021 10:27pm

Snotty wrote: »

Brilliant, I'll push it further, do you think a 5km lite jog or maybe a round of golf would be possible the next day.
I have the day after booked off work and don't really fancy sitting in the house on my own and if I knew I'd be OK I'd organise something

I probably wouldn't jog. Even with the jockstrap, it wouldn't exactly be providing a lot of support. I'd have to imagine you may need to be careful to avoid any 'pinching' during a golf swing as well, ha. That being said though, depending on your pain threshold etc, it might not bother you at all. There's little fear of the wound reopening as the incision is so small, but erring on the side of caution would still be best.

_Kaiser_ · 28-04-2021 12:27pm

Snotty wrote: »

Brilliant, I'll push it further, do you think a 5km lite jog or maybe a round of golf would be possible the next day.
I have the day after booked off work and don't really fancy sitting in the house on my own and if I knew I'd be OK I'd organise something

I'd stay put for at least a day or two. Watch TV/read or something.

No point in rushing it either.

Wabbit Ears · 28-04-2021 1:09pm

Don't plan anything strenuous for a week (as per doctors advice) that includes jogging or Gym work.

No way I was walking the day of the op, saying you can go for a 5k stroll directly afterwards is a response that just beggers belief. I was specifically told to have someone drive me home if possible and not plan anything at all for the day.

also, Buy some support Boxers jocks.

Zzippy · 29-04-2021 4:28pm

Got it done yesterday. Quick and easy. Anaesthetic wore off about an hour afterwards and it was bloody sore then, like being kicked in the balls. Joked with the wife about "the things I go through for you" (she's popped out 3 kids). An actual kick in the balls was mentioned. Once painkillers kicked in all was good again. No way I would have gone for a 500m walk though, never mind 5k. Working from home today and taking it easy but so far so good.

seamus · 29-04-2021 4:37pm

Snotty wrote: »

Brilliant, I'll push it further, do you think a 5km lite jog

Certainly not the day after it I wouldn't.

It's not just about the movement, strenuous exercise will raise your blood pressure and can cause additional bleeding. The holes heal quickly, but not that quickly. This is also why weight lifting or heavy manual work (like blocklaying) is also not advised.

The official advice (in Ireland) is to leave it a week before engaging in strenuous cardio and two weeks for contact sport.
The unofficial advice is to give it at least 3 days and then only do what you feel up to. But leave the contact sport for two weeks.

You have the day booked off, find a few movies that you've been meaning to watch, get in some ****e food and a takeaway for dinner.

Sonics2k · 29-04-2021 6:41pm

Had mine done in February this year in Cork. Really quick and simply procedure, only real pain came at the start during the Anaesthetic. The night and day after the procedure I was more uncomfortable than anything, but I was able to drive to Limerick down country roads with no real hassle, wouldn't recommend aiming for a pot hole of course.

As for doing a 5km walk/jog/run the same day or day after, I really wouldn't suggest it at all.

Best way to describe the pain is imagine the pain about 10 minutes after a good kick in the balls, that feeling in your gut and legs, but constant for a few days.

digitalsystem · 01-06-2021 5:45pm

I saw some older posts about difficulty getting in contact with Dr. John. I've emailed once and called twice during the last three weeks but no response. Anyone else with same experience? Is it related to HSE cyber attack?

RocketRaccoon · 01-06-2021 5:55pm

I'm going to be booking myself in over the next few months with gentle procedures in Limerick. Has anyone previous experience with them?

knipex · 01-06-2021 8:11pm

RocketRaccoon wrote:

I'm going to be booking myself in over the next few months with gentle procedures in Limerick. Has anyone previous experience with them?

They appear to be Treaty medical centre with a new name. Had mine done there and based purely on my own personal experience would not recommend them.

RocketRaccoon · 01-06-2021 8:28pm

knipex wrote: »

They appear to be Treaty medical centre with a new name. Had mine done there and based purely on my own personal experience would not recommend them.

Can I ask why?

knipex · 02-06-2021 5:10pm

PM Sent

Paullimerick · 04-06-2021 8:35pm

Was thinking about them also. Lol when I get the b*lls to do it. Can you pm me why also.

knipex · 06-06-2021 4:14pm

Paullimerick wrote:

Was thinking about them also. Lol when I get the b*lls to do it. Can you pm me why also.

Essentially based on my personal experience

I had some complications resulting in swelling and pain for a few weeks.

Personally I didn't warn to the doctor who did the procedure (probably linked to the pain)..

deeks · 09-06-2021 8:02am

Friday is D-Day (or should I say V-Day

) for me. Quite nervous if I'm being honest but thats to be expected with someone attacking my nether regions :eek:

randomname2005 · 09-06-2021 9:33am

deeks wrote: »

Friday is D-Day (or should I say V-Day ) for me. Quite nervous if I'm being honest but thats to be expected with someone attacking my nether regions :eek:

I think that is to be expected, but try to relax as much as you can. Good luck!

deeks · 12-06-2021 8:56am

So got the job done yesterday morning by John McCormick in Cork. Much less uncomfortable than I had feared. Appointment was for 10.00 and I was outside before 10.30. The actual procedure was fine. A slight pinch twice on both sides for the anaesthetic but after that all I could feel was some movement but no actual pain or uncomfortableness. Was told to wait for about 20 mins before driving just to make sure I wasn’t dizzy or faint but was on the road before 11 with my feet up on the couch by 12.45. Took nurofen as I was leaving the surgery and again every 4 hours after and I have to say it’s much less painful than I feared. As someone posted earlier - it’s like the sensation of getting a whack in the balls but not the immediate feeling - about 20 mins after when it’s settled down but you still have that uncomfortable feeling in your gut. Basically didn’t stir from the couch all day yesterday afterwards with the mrs waiting on me all day ðŸ˜„. Haven’t taken a painkiller yet today and feel reasonably ok but I will take some later. Gonna be a little more energetic today but nothing too strenuous. Hopefully after the next week or so is out of the way it will be plain sailing. Just have to wait three months or so then for the “all clear”

Thanks to all who’ve posted their positive experiences and their recommendations for Dr John on here. Probably wouldn’t have had the courage to go ahead only for ye.

ec18 · 22-06-2021 9:30am

is dr john the one from vasectomy ireland?

deeks · 22-06-2021 10:12am

Yes

GottaGetGoing · 23-06-2021 11:16pm

Not a 2-3 day recovery for me.

Had procedure done 2 weeks ago in a Dublin clinic. All went fine on the day. Took some ibuprofen directly after, spent the evening on the couch.

Experienced intermittent discomfort that moved between the balls and abdomen in the 2-3 days afterwards but nothing a few ibuprofen and rest didn't sort.

Was starting to feel better until about day 8 when my balls started swelling up and I started experiencing more discomfort on both sides.

Rang Dr day 10, he advised to start taking ibuprofen again for the next 4-5 days and also to take hot baths twice a day.

Been following this now for 4 days with some improvement so hoping it won't be too much longer before I can get back to normal.

ted1 · 23-06-2021 11:19pm

The lumps are normal and go away. I believe it’s just where they were cut.

ted1 · 23-06-2021 11:25pm

Supercell wrote: »

Lads, whats it like when you have "that moment of joy" with your partner once its all healed up, is it the same, painful? Where does the stuff go if the pipes are closed? Wifey making noises here about getting it done as we have enough kids as it is.

The stuff is the same. Semen gets realised from the balls. , just the swimmers are cut off from entering the semen.

For me the moment of joy is better. , we had started using the pull out method. But now I can just plough on and keep going if I want too

TedSheeran · 05-07-2021 3:22pm

digitalsystem wrote: »

I saw some older posts about difficulty getting in contact with Dr. John. I've emailed once and called twice during the last three weeks but no response. Anyone else with same experience? Is it related to HSE cyber attack?

Call his secretary. She will get your number and he will call you back.

TedSheeran · 05-07-2021 3:34pm

Snotty wrote: »

Brilliant, I'll push it further, do you think a 5km lite jog or maybe a round of golf would be possible the next day.
I have the day after booked off work and don't really fancy sitting in the house on my own and if I knew I'd be OK I'd organise something

Everybody is different, but I wouldn’t recommend either a 5 mile walk and definitely would recommend NOT to have a light run.

Think of this in terms or risk management. You may not like being bored for a few days, but if you push things too hard and end up with complications, you could have to rest up for much longer.

For me, I was pretty careful, but still found that taking shortcuts didn’t pay. For example, I stopped wearing the jockstrap the day after the op, and that night I found I had a lot more pain than the first day. I went back to the jockstrap the next day and it improved. A few days later I tried to go back to normal tight boxers, but the pain returned again. In the end, I was wearing the jockstrap for about 2 weeks. If I had just worn it for the first few days solid I might have been able to dispense with it earlier. Even now, I find that I still need it for longer runs (a few months later). My running probably doesn’t have great technique, so there is a good bit of impact from foot hitting the ground, and the resultant bouncing of the balls tends to give me pain the next day. The jockstrap helps with that in a way that compression shorts don’t.

My advice would be to think of the possibility of long term pain if this goes wrong. In that context, a few days of boredom and being ultra careful doesn’t seem like a big deal.

TedSheeran · 05-07-2021 3:39pm

Supercell wrote: »

Lads, whats it like when you have "that moment of joy" with your partner once its all healed up, is it the same, painful? Where does the stuff go if the pipes are closed? Wifey making noises here about getting it done as we have enough kids as it is.

Moment of joy is at least as good. There is no effect on volume or sensation. And if you were using condoms before, then it is even better, as once you get the all-clear you can go back to skin-to-skin!

Don’t go mad in the first week or 2 though. The boys will be feeling a bit sensitive, so better not to have them swinging around the place too wildly! Also don’t forget to continue with normal contraception until you get the all-clear.

Effects · 19-07-2021 2:18pm

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At 24, you would be mad to think about getting this done. You are young and don't know what might change over the next ten years or more.

Lujan · 20-07-2021 8:41am

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You would be mad to do it.

Doctors would try to dissuade you from doing it as you are so young.

You may change your mind in the future.

tates1979 · 25-07-2021 5:10pm

I was on the waiting list in the north under NHS, procedure cancelled owing to Covid - twice! There's now some reciprocal agreement that means I can pay privately in the south and get it reimbursed by the NI Executive. Any advice on where in Donegal/border counties may be good or not a big distance away in terms of performing the procedure?

Cheers

TedSheeran · 28-07-2021 12:09pm

Depending on where you are based, it can often be easy to drive to Dublin. Newry to Dublin is only 1 hr 20 mins.

I know i keep going on about risk, but for something that can cause long term pain if it goes wrong, i would advise choosing the best doctor and driving a bit farther rather than a close-by doctor who doesn't do many of these operations.

Trondheim · 17-08-2021 2:34pm

I had the no-scalpel yesterday with Dr. John McCormack in Dublin.

I'll post everything that i can think of here, in case it is useful to anybody else.

Booking was easy. I made it a few weeks ago. He is very easy to deal with. He sent a questionnaire a few days beforehand and called me the day before. The call was mainly to talk through the risks. Those are all outlined on his website and others, so i won't bother repeating them here.

I had a good breakfast and drove up to Dublin by myself. There is a multi-storey car park on school house lane, just off Kildare street and just around the corner from the clinic. Due to Covid, he told me only to arrive at the appointment time and not earlier.

When I got there, I had to sign the waiver, acknowledging the risks etc.

Then, drop trousers and underwear and lie on the table.

He pulled back the foreskin and tied an elastic band just behind the helmet and attached that to my shirt, to hold my penis out of the way during the procedure. Then he used an alcohol disinfectant and had a feel around to find where everything was inside the scrotum. Then he put the anaesthetic in on both sides. In total it felt like about four injections. They were a bit sore, but not very. Then some chit chat, and then checked that i couldn't feel anything there and then went to work. He told me when the first one was done, and again checked that the anaesthetic had worked on the other side and then did that. Plenty of chat about sport during it. Then, he put a bit of gauze over the incision site, and told me to hold it there and to stand up. He helped me pull up the jocks and then i pulled up my shorts and sat down. He went through the process for semen analysis, gave me the tube, envelope etc. I paid and that was it.

Afterwards I went for coffee. He told me that the anaesthetic would wear off after about 30 minutes, so i took ibuprofen and paracetamol as soon as I got to the cafe. About an hour later, I drove home. I took it easy all afternoon. I followed the instructions for the ibuprofen (took 2 in total between 12:00 noon and bedtime) and paracetamol (5 in total yesterday). I had a few twinges of pain at various stages, but nothing significant.

I had followed the advice here and bought a few jockstraps beforehand. I wore that all yesterday and to bed last night. It is very effective at keeping my balls tightly held. But during the night, i woke a good few times, as the nighttime erections were constricted with the jockstrap and and the straps around the back were digging into me a bit. I guess that is the advantage and disadvantage of the jockstrap - it really does hold things tight, but at night that is not very comfortable - for the moment, i am working on the basis that the bit of discomfort in that regard is better than a lot of discomfort due to bruised balls etc.

When i got up this morning, i checked the wound. It is a really small slit down the middle of the scrotum (about 0.5 cm), with four pin prick holes around it (i presume they are where the anaesthetic went in). I left off the gauze today. I have a jockstrap on again today and will take 3 ibuprofen and 7 paracetamol during the day. The Dr. said that it is better to prevent the pain than to get rid of it, so for the moment I will continue to take the painkillers on time rather than based on whether I am in pain.

One last thing. I wasn't sure how much to shave and didn't want to fall short, so I just shaved everything, all of the scrotum, all of the penis and the bush above the penis. I did that about four days before the procedure, but I got a bit of shaving rash where I shaved the bush. I told him that when he called me, and he said that I had probably shaved more than I needed to. When I see where he worked, that is fairly obvious to me now! In case you are wondering where to shave, you only really need to have the front of your scrotum and the back of the penis (the part that touches the front of the scrotum) done. Definitely no need to shave the bush!

I'll try to post a few updates this week on how it is going.

Trondheim · 19-08-2021 8:57am

Thursday morning now. I had it done on Monday.

No adverse effects so far. I have been taking about 2 nurofen/day and about 4 paracetamol.

I will stop both today and see how it goes. The nurofen packet advises to only take for three days.

Still wearing a jockstrap all day (including to bed at night).

I held off until today on having a shower, as i was concerned about reopening the wound. The doctor had said that it would be OK to have one on Tuesday morning, but I was just a bit wary. Anyway all fine, and no sign of the wound reopening.

James__10 · 19-08-2021 2:45pm

I posted off my sperm sample 2 weeks ago and haven't heard anything back.

How long does it normally take for results to be given?

Glebee · 19-08-2021 5:59pm

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When I sent of my sample they lost it🤣, Had to resend another one... I thought they said around 2 weeks before you hear back.

mcmaco82 · 20-08-2021 11:53am

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Did you end up getting the prcedure done with 'Gentle Procedures'? How did you get on? I'm thinking of getting the procedure with them in Naas. Same doctors in both clinic.

mcmaco82 · 20-08-2021 11:56am

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Knipex: Did they butcher the procedure or were you just one of the unlucky ones that has complications?

Trondheim · 23-08-2021 11:56am

More or less a week since the vasectomy now (last Monday). All good, no major impact.

I stopped with the nurofen and paracetamol on Thursday.

Did the business on Friday, and all working well. No blood in the semen (or not that I noticed anyway).

I went for a light run yesterday evening (~5 Km), and took it easy. Felt fine during the run.

I wore the jockstrap for the run, but went back to normal underwear afterwards. Not sure if it is the underwear or the run, but felt a few twinges of pain last night (they woke me up), but very brief. Occasionally achey today, but nothing major. I'll see how it goes.

The wounds seems to be fully sealed now.

All in all, I consider myself very lucky that it went so easy, and very happy with Dr. McCormack. A nice guy, easy to deal with, and seems to have done a very good job. I would definitely recommend him. Fingers crossed that i'll be a fully fledged jaffa when I get tested in a few months!

Wabbit Ears · 24-08-2021 1:24pm

First sample came back with a very small amount of swimmers left. Anyone got and advice on clearing the pipes beyond just jacking off/Riding?

seamus · 24-08-2021 8:49pm

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I think all you can do is redouble your efforts. Remind your lady friend that clear pipes are in her best interests too 💥😉

TedSheeran · 25-08-2021 4:33pm

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Directions i received were to have at least 24 ejaculations before submitting a sample for testing? Not to get too personal, but do you think you have reached that?

How long have you been advised to wait until your next test? Ejaculation is the only way to get rid of the swimmers, so like you said - jerking off or riding.

knipex · 29-08-2021 3:42pm

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Dont want to get into too much detail but there was bleeding and swelling that was a direct result of the procedure. Different doctor told me this would not be a normal side effect.

To be fair, pain wasnt enough to stop me working (mainly drive a desk), most of teh time toook eiher nothing or over the counter pain killers was but prescribed ocycoden for when I needed it (only took a few) Couple of weeks and all the swelling and pain was done. No issues since.

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