AMD Navi Discussion

K.O.Kiki · 31-07-2019 2:25am

Yeston RX 5700 XT

K.O.Kiki · 31-07-2019 10:37pm

WOOF WOOF

Serephucus · 31-07-2019 11:25pm

Looking at this thread for the first time in ages.

STAHP

K.O.Kiki · 01-08-2019 12:36pm

Last one I swear.

Venom · 01-08-2019 1:16pm

I can't find the video in question, but I remember watching Linus Tech Tips do a review of some weird Chinese sourced GTX 1060 and the card was fake as hell. It showed up in Windows as a 1060 but couldn't be seen by Nvidia drivers and the performance was abysmal.

TerrorFirmer · 01-08-2019 1:33pm

Yeston are a legit company, the fake ones tend to be unbranded and blatantly fake, can spot them a mile away. Usually GTS450/250/GTX550 class cards with hacked bios described as everything and anything.

deceit · 01-08-2019 1:34pm

Venom wrote: »

I can't find the video in question, but I remember watching Linus Tech Tips do a review of some weird Chinese sourced GTX 1060 and the card was fake as hell. It showed up in Windows as a 1060 but couldn't be seen by Nvidia drivers and the performance was abysmal.

Its common for fake cards on ebay to be like a 950 rebranded as a 1060 and the bios changed to hide the fact its actually an 950 (Used 950 as an example).

K.O.Kiki · 01-08-2019 1:40pm

Yeah, they're counting down to ChinaJoy 2019 - expect a ton of cards to be unveiled in the next 3 days.

deceit · 01-08-2019 1:45pm

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Yeah, they're counting down to ChinaJoy 2019 - expect a ton of cards to be unveiled in the next 3 days.

I never heard of this convention, does much interesting stuff ever come out of it?

K.O.Kiki · 01-08-2019 7:13pm

The XFX card looks great! :eek:

jebidiah · 02-08-2019 6:47am

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

The XFX card looks great! :eek:

Yikes. I thought my Pulse Vega 56 was hefty!

K.O.Kiki · 02-08-2019 10:35am

OK, I lied. Have to give them props for going all-out.

Yeston 5700 Series booth at ChinaJoy 2019

K.O.Kiki · 02-08-2019 10:43am

In other news, got an email today that AMD.com now ships to Ireland!

RX 5700 XT: €381,88
XT Anniversary: €427,18

jonerkinsella · 02-08-2019 10:54am

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

In other news, got an email today that AMD.com now ships to Ireland!

RX 5700 XT: €381,88
XT Anniversary: €427,18

Prices are not VAT inc. Here it is inc,

K.O.Kiki · 02-08-2019 10:57am

Well bugger that, guess I'm waiting 2 weeks for the XFX.

K.O.Kiki · 03-08-2019 2:29pm

Asus cards.

ROG Strix: 16. August

TUF Gaming X3: 23. August

Dual Evo : 30. August

K.O.Kiki · 05-08-2019 11:08am

XFX THICC2

Powercolor Red Devil[/url

K.O.Kiki · 06-08-2019 4:46pm

Sapphire Pulse.

Homelander · 06-08-2019 5:58pm

Can't wait to see the race to the bottom with the cards. Even at €400ish they will be amazing value compared to the 2070 super.

K.O.Kiki · 07-08-2019 10:50am

MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT EVOKE
15. August release date
Dual 90mm fans with 0dB mode. Reference PCB.

will56 · 07-08-2019 4:25pm

Will those cards fit in an ITX case ?
Some of them seem ot the 2.5slot cards when you take the coolers into account
I'm tight enough for space with my XFX 480

K.O.Kiki · 07-08-2019 4:50pm

will56 wrote: »

Will those cards fit in an ITX case ?
Some of them seem ot the 2.5slot cards when you take the coolers into account
I'm tight enough for space with my XFX 480

ASRock Challenger should fit 2-slot, though you might be better off with a blower card + washer fix.

jonerkinsella · 08-08-2019 10:26am

£499
Needs to be a bit cheaper, but if the specs are correct, then it's going to be a flyer,
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-radeon-rx-5700-xt-rog-strix-oc-8gb-gddr6-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-43p-as.html

K.O.Kiki · 08-08-2019 11:06am

PowerColor said that AIB models should start at same price as Reference blowers, so I wouldn't take OCUK's prices at full face value just yet.

K.O.Kiki · 09-08-2019 5:53pm

Minor disappointment: Timmy Joe couldn't get the Arctic Coolers to perform well, at all.

K.O.Kiki · 12-08-2019 6:40pm

Alright feck it, I bought a RX 5700 XT reference.

Let's see what I can coax out of it.

Serephucus · 12-08-2019 6:43pm

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Alright feck it, I bought a RX 5700 XT reference.

Let's see what I can coax out of it.

On the day the AIB cards came out, really?! LOL

K.O.Kiki · 12-08-2019 6:49pm

Serephucus wrote: »

On the day the AIB cards came out, really?! LOL

Got a good discount

Gonna be doing washer or even Arctic Accelero mods myself anyway.

Serephucus · 12-08-2019 7:08pm

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Got a good discount
Gonna be doing washer or even Arctic Accelero mods myself anyway.

Fair. Interested to hear how you get on.

Was consider going 3700/57XT myself, but the GPU gains are still kinda meh...

GHOST MGG · 13-08-2019 12:50pm

Im gonna wait till big navi...hoping it released in december

K.O.Kiki · 13-08-2019 5:11pm

Serephucus wrote: »

Fair. Interested to hear how you get on.

Was consider going 3700/57XT myself, but the GPU gains are still kinda meh...

Hah bloody OCUK pricks, they accidentally listed it low & now cancelled the order as it's now out-of-stock :pac:

jonerkinsella · 13-08-2019 6:53pm

I'm actually looking out for a vega 56. I'll put it on water and it'll do everything I need at 1440p. It'll save me about €200 as well. It's too close to 5700xt when tweeked to consider anything else really when cost is factored in.

Imo.

Skerries · 13-08-2019 7:14pm

K.O.Kiki · 13-08-2019 9:01pm

jonerkinsella wrote: »

I'm actually looking out for a vega 56. I'll put it on water and it'll do everything I need at 1440p. It'll save me about €200 as well. It's too close to 5700xt when tweeked to consider anything else really when cost is factored in.

Imo.

RX 5700 XT is 20-30% faster than Vega 56, no amount of tweaking/overclocking can overcome that.

jonerkinsella · 14-08-2019 8:57am

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

RX 5700 XT is 20-30% faster than Vega 56, no amount of tweaking/overclocking can overcome that.

Which is no where near the cost excess of approximately +80% for the 5700xt for the difference of 80 vs 100 fps in games.

The 56 tweeked is great at €250ish for 1440p. The cost of the 5700xt or non is not justified imo.

K.O.Kiki · 15-08-2019 2:39am

https://twitter.com/VideoCardz/status/1161570416751730688

For anyone wondering why reviews went up before there was stock.

K.O.Kiki · 15-08-2019 12:39pm

PowerColor Red Devil.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/powercolor-radeon-rx-5700-xt-red-devil/

Looks like it's between this & Sapphire Pulse for best models, so far.

K.O.Kiki · 16-08-2019 12:27pm

sugarman wrote: »

Any sniff of a nano / itx / mini 5700?

Been holding off on a 2060 mini in hope of one.. the Vega 56 Nano was near on impossible to get a hold of.

The MSI models are the only "compact" ones so far, but only insofar as length - their width & height is larger than normal.
Considering other coolers are having trouble keeping the RX 5700 dies cool, I think the design of it is just not nano-able.

Which case are you looking to install into?

K.O.Kiki · 16-08-2019 1:47pm

sugarman wrote: »

Cooler Master Elite 110. Not a a brilliant case by all means but it fits perfectly where I need it it to.

It can take a card up to 211mm in length by manufacturer spec, but actually fits close to 230mm if the power connector isnt on the end of the card. Height and width isn't a problem.

Those MSI models are coming in at 232mm so they might do the job. The case can be modded to allow another 10mm or so.

I'll wait and see sure.. 2060 might be the only option but I'm not biting at current price and 1660ti doesn't cut it for me. Best value at the moment is a used 1070 mini.

Honestly I'd just change case.
https://geizhals.eu/?cmp=1053577&cmp=1229853&cmp=969669&cmp=794687

If you switch to Nvidia, there's a Zotac & Inno3D model RTX 2060s going for ~350-370 but you'd be mad to pay that price.

Subcomandante Marcos · 16-08-2019 6:48pm

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Considering other coolers are having trouble keeping the RX 5700 dies cool, I think the design of it is just not nano-able.

The partner cards all run much lower than the reference cards and have no issues keeping temps under control. A card the size of the Zotac 1070 Mini would be no problem with a decent heatsink, fans and a few heat pipes.

Subcomandante Marcos · 16-08-2019 6:50pm

sugarman wrote: »

I would if I could, its literally the only case that fits where I need it to.. I mean other than something stupid like the DAN A4 which is €200 odd and very limited.

..and yeah I agree with you on the 2060 price front, if Im going to be limited by its 6GB of vram for the convenience of the itx form factor I couldnt justify paying more than €300 tops when the 5700 isnt much more.

Im going to sit of the fence awhile longer anyway and see what happens.. if theres a price drop Id settle for the 2060, or if I come across a good deal for a used 1070 or Vega 56 Nano I might bite on that. Its tempting not to order the 5700 from Amazon though and attempt to cram it in and return it if I cant:pac:

I got an Amazon warehouse deal for a 1070 mini a few mo the ago for €200ish. The second hand market seems to be taking its time to catch up to the falling price of the older cards for some reason.

Homelander · 17-08-2019 8:39am

jonerkinsella wrote: »

Which is no where near the cost excess of approximately +80% for the 5700xt for the difference of 80 vs 100 fps in games.

The 56 tweeked is great at €250ish for 1440p. The cost of the 5700xt or non is not justified imo.

Many games the difference is way bigger than 80 v 100fps. All the cost and effort of getting a Vega 56, water-cooling it....and you still have a card way behind the 5700xt in the end. No amount of tweaking can bridge a 30-40 percent gap.

Surely you would be way better off just getting a 5700 non XT? Way faster out of the box, and surely not much more than an old Vega 56 plus paying for a waterblock also?

K.O.Kiki · 19-08-2019 8:43pm

Making the Radeon RX 5700 and RX 5700 XT more energy-efficient and significantly quieter with the MorePowerTool.

jonerkinsella · 04-09-2019 2:27pm

*** Free upgrade from 5700 to a 5700XT offered by AMD ***

(So it looks)

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/czhux1/psa_you_can_take_the_bios_from_a_5700_xt_and/

Sweet.

z0oT · 04-09-2019 9:10pm

Anyone else here with one of the Navi cards?

After giving the whole evening gaming on the RX 5700 XT, the performance upgrade over my GTX 1070 is quite nice. Getting way over 60fps in 1440p with Freesync enabled is so nice.

Some niggles with drivers still to be worked out though - I have to disable hardware acceleration in Firefox or I can get BSODs - 1st time to see them ever in Windows 10.

z0oT · 06-09-2019 4:36pm

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-graphics-card-nvidia-killer/

Bigger Navi GPUs are coming apparently. Hopefully the above article is true to re-invigorate some competition at the high end again.

Although... I'll believe it when I see it. I remember articles popping up around the place a few years ago saying the Vega cards were going to trounce the 1080 Ti, which of course didn't happen.

EoinHef · 06-09-2019 4:39pm

z0oT wrote: »

https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-graphics-card-nvidia-killer/

Bigger Navi GPUs are coming apparently. Hopefully the above article is true to re-invigorate some competition at the high end again.

Although... I'll believe it when I see it. I remember articles popping up around the place a few years ago saying the Vega cards were going to trounce the 1080 Ti, which of course didn't happen.

Ye that rumors around a little while,lets hope its true but like yourself i think ill be takin it with a pinch of salt for the moment.

z0oT · 06-09-2019 5:04pm

The last time AMD had the GPU performance crown was when they released the R9 290X. It sort of made a mockery of Nvidia's lineup at the time - it was faster than the 1st gen Titan @1000+ while costing significantly less.

Although, Nvidia claimed the crown back shortly after with the 780 Ti which they sort of had waiting in the wings.

It would be very nice if they could do something like that again. We've been totally spoiled with the renewed competition in the CPU market this year.

wotzgoingon · 06-09-2019 5:18pm

If they do have a really great performing graphics card that can compete with Nvidias top end it will be no where near as cheap as the 290X was.

cherryghost · 15-09-2019 10:54am

Bless. You can bios flash a 5700 into a 5700 XT or 5700 XT Anniversary edition (without the extra 4 CUs of course). Recommended on custom cooling boards, rather than standard blower. Performance gains appear to be quite large.

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