Off The Ball Official Thread <Mod Note - Post #1, #533, #6651>

robo wrote: »

I have started listening more & more to OTBAM when I get the notification at 7.45am that it is starting - especially been good after the mid week games in the evening and newspaper review. Some breaking sports news over night & the OTB guys are on it (except the MUFC singing job :rolleyes:) Also, they sometimes have Kenny on, the other week he was on both shows & in between, he was out around Dublin with "the young lad" - always interesting to hear Kenny's contribution.
Would be interesting to see the stats on listenership figures and I now have subscribed to the podcast as don't always listen to it when I get into the office.

I like OTBAM. Started podcasting it and listening to it later in the day. However, I used to never really get why some particular presenters wound up posters on here. But the more I listen to OTBAM the more I cant stand Ger. They’ve good guests on, as you said Kenny, but Joe and Nathan are far more easier to listen to for me.

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I listened to a bit there before the FA cup final (to see what kind of build up there was - before I got near the telly) it was Nathan Murphy on interviewing Ray 'who put the ball in the English net'.
Talking about he and teams dealt with the final in 89 between Liverpool v Everton in light of the Hillsborough tragedy.
It was grand, not a Molloy or Gilroy to be heard.

I was just wondering is this a normal course of events no Gilroy and Molloy on the weekends - or was it just a one off?

Yeah I was listening to that piece and thought it was a very good piece. I usually enjoy the 9 to 10 football slot on Monday, Joe Molloy usually does a good job with that.

Unfortunately after that they then went and spent about 20 minutes talking about the women's champions league final. You could tell that Kilbame especially was thinking "What the hell are we doing". I wonder how many people had any interest whatsoever in that competition. Seriously.

robo wrote: »

Yeh Ger can be a bot skittish to some items - where as Joe can be a bit too mollycoddling so the others can help balance it out.

Its definitely a show (both OTBAM and OTB) that you need at 2-3 different types of people on discussing the ins & outs of sport to get a better range of perspective.

Caught a small bit of the Sunday newspaper review & it just dawned on me that Kimmage hasn't been o in a while - wonder was there a falling out as a few times himself & Joe didn't agree on things.

Re kimmage wouldn’t be at all surprised. A man who would cross the road to take offence.

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Re kimmage wouldn’t be at all surprised. A man who would cross the road to take offence.

Still writing doping articles too. Still doing it!

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

'Someone' tweeted this to OTB and got this reply.

Pretty appropriate response (widely used quote said to have been made famous by Marlyn Monroe).

If you're going to check a rota and remember it or re-check it rather than just flicking the station on for a second, your putting way too much work in to it.

BPKS wrote: »

Yeah I was listening to that piece and thought it was a very good piece. I usually enjoy the 9 to 10 football slot on Monday, Joe Molloy usually does a good job with that.

Unfortunately after that they then went and spent about 20 minutes talking about the women's champions league final. You could tell that Kilbame especially was thinking "What the hell are we doing". I wonder how many people had any interest whatsoever in that competition. Seriously.

Missed this piece but if the likes of OTB don't talk about women's football, boxing, athletics...tiddlywinks then how will we get to hear much about it. I listen to OTB to not always hear the well-known sports/teams/players but to hear all different aspects of sport because its amazing to hear more from what drives different sports participants and not always about those that are the top of the game.
Why should it take such a big stage for us to hear about female athletes like last summer when Ireland did so well at the Hockey finals.

So my point is (eventually) is you may not initially have an interest in something but when you start to hear the different stories about the people involved, then it spurs an interest in you.

Tell me how wrote: »

Pretty appropriate response (widely used quote said to have been made famous by Marlyn Monroe).

If you're going to check a rota and remember it or re-check it rather than just flicking the station on for a second, your putting way too much work in to it.

In fairness I was being slightly tongue in cheek, so I probably deserved that reply. But I seriously cannot listen to thier coverage when certain presenters are on. They always end up saying something that annoys me, or conducting the interview in a manner which annoys me.

But I think Nathan Murphy does a grand job, solid stuff.

Are we into no football show territory? Already?

Tell me how wrote: »

Next few years are going to be difficult for you.

Women's football is growing and I'd imagine any female with interest in sport would have enjoyed the piece.
Given there was a hattrick scored in the game, I'd imagine many if both genders would have been interested also.

So let me tell you how the next few years wont be difficult for me at all. I go to around 30 womens sports games a year. Have done for the last decade. I also put my hand in my pocket and fund local womens sports teams and have done some admin work for them. I wonder how many womens games the OTB crew go to a year?

On your second point - the main issue with womens sports is that they are not supported by other women. Go to a ladies football national league game for example. You might get 300 people at it and two-thirds of the crowd will be male. Go to a mens football national league game with 10,000 there and something between a quarter and a third will be female - 2,500 to 3,500.

And finally, after listening to that piece did you actually go and seek out and watch the Womens Champions League final? If so could you give me a brief run down of the game, the tactics/formations employed, who played well, were there any controversial decisions? And how did the "household names" (as they were described by the OTB contributor) play?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1_0ayyx3dg&t=33s

Found this interview by Joe Molloy with John Meyler very good tonight.

Blinky Plebum wrote: »

Womens sports coverage is tedious to listen to largely because it gets patronized by the media and not treated as simply a sporting event , they have to shoehorn the feminist agenda into as well and therefore it alienates whoever might be interested in the sport because people who are properly interested in sport are interested in sport and don't care about any political stuff attached to it.

Every single female sports person when covered by the media is called an inspiration and what a great role model they are for young girls, male sports stars don't have to put up with that crap and they simply get dealt with on their merits as top quality sports people.

The day womens sport will have truly moved forward is the day the media starts to treat it like a sport and not in the fawning patronizing manner they treat every single womens sport these days. Womens sports talk would be so much more enjoyable if it was simply treated like a sport and analysed on it's merits but that rarely happens in the media.

Women's national soccer team had to change out if tracksuits in airport toilet to give to another team.

Are you sure you want to talk about them being treated differently to male teams?

Badabing wrote: »

I presume Newstalk (off the ball) are getting the Saturday Premier league rights that Today FM are giving up.

I'm still sort of hoping that RTE get the TV rights and we get Sports Stadium back on the air.

Tell me how wrote: »

I'd have thought they'd have announced it if they were doing this.
Maybe it'll happen. I would be a big fan of a game broadcast on Saturday and maybe 2 on Sunday. Find they dominate the entire show when they have a game on that day.

Surely you'd wait and announce it at the start of the new season as opposed to the damp squib announcement when they are closing down the football hour for the season?

Very good paper review today.