Mass Effect: Andromeda

Zillah wrote: »

What I've read suggests it was Casey Hudson in a room with the lead writer with no input, feedback, or review from the rest of the writing staff. They didn't get stuck doing it themselves, those chose to.

Basically yeah, Casey Hudson just destroyed a trilogy. I'll never believe a word for him again after that, all the waffle he spewed about the story line of the years and then he goes and clubs it to death.

I still can't get over how brilliant the indoctrination theory is.

Clevernoobs videos are long but jesus so much of it makes sense.

I know EA decided shot it out of the water with the ending DLC but I'd rather ignore that.

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I wouldn't call it brilliant but it would have been a lot more satisfying than what we got. There's a whole lot of evidence pointing to it being the original intention but for me the biggest one is that (spoiler for old Bioware RPG)

it's pretty much the same plot twist from KotOR

and Bioware love to tell the exact same story every time.

If you've watched the three hours or so of videos I dunno how you wouldn't call it brilliant but you are contrary by nature!

Hoping the next series learns from some of the weaknesses of ME1 which I found to be overrated when I eventually got a chance to play it.

Where did you find evidence it was the original intention?

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Basically yeah, Casey Hudson just destroyed a trilogy. I'll never believe a word for him again after that, all the waffle he spewed about the story line of the years and then he goes and clubs it to death.

I haven't trusted him since the day he stated outright in a preview that Skyrim was "an entirely new engine".

Fup off Casey you talentless, lying pile of pretension.

degrassinoel wrote: »

ye sure that wasnt Todd Howard?

It would appear I have been visualising Todd Howard every time someone says Casey Hudson.

J. Marston wrote: »

Loved the Indoctrination Theory. Watched a 90 minute video on it on Youtube when the hype was at it's peak.

I think the fact that anyone would pay the slightest bit of attention to something as patently absurd as the indoctrination theory is the most damning indictment of the writing in ME3. It just can't be the real ending they tell themselves with manic zeal glimmering in their eyes.

Zillah wrote: »

I think the fact that anyone would pay the slightest bit of attention to something as patently absurd as the indoctrination theory is the most damning indictment of the writing in ME3. It just can't be the real ending they tell themselves with manic zeal glimmering in their eyes.

Patently absurd?

No, it wasn't.

Another sale on console (PS3) for the different mass effect DLC and still never been reduced on Origin, still the same stupid amounts bioware point as when they were new. The point arn't used in anything else either, can't use the ones I do have in the old republic or any other Bioware/EA game.

Likley getting Andromeda on console.

Mitch Connor wrote: »

That is a different argument entirely that you have decided to have.

You said the theory itself was absurd - not people thinking it was the 'real' ending.

Thinking it is the real ending could be considered absurd but that isn't the argument. thinking it is a good theory or would have been a good ending is what you called absurd. So the post I have quoted doesn't actually address the argument at all - you've just started a different one.

Indeed.

The three best pieces of work on this are the Clevernoob videos.

The author constantly maintains that the theory wasn't necessarily Bioware's intention but, and this was pre EC now for two of his videos, that they would have a chance to rectify the crap ending with the EC.

I highly recommend watching the videos but they are a time sink. Some of his conclusions you can disagree with (and you will because I don't always agree with his flow of logic) but I found it a fascinating way to while away a few hours.

Even in the EC, where they ostensibly put paid to the theory, they included new elements that further muddy the waters.

Edit. Id love to mention some of the aspects of the theory I found most convincing but I don't want to derail this thread too much.

Zillah wrote: »

A theory is something you maintain as a likely explanation for something. The early days of the indoctrination theory were always presented as the secret explanation for what was actually happening - I've never watched the insane three hours of exposition that represents the more recent/thorough attempts.

So sure, if they mean "Let's play imagination time" in regard to what would be a more fun story, that's fine, imagine away. Don't call it a theory though.

Are you for real?

yeah that figures alright, they've had so many staff (writers and more)leave in the last year it's unsurprising

Captain Chaos wrote: »

It was very clear it would not be out this year at all, if it was they would have shown the game running at E3 last year. There has yet to be a single in game screen shot released so far that's not concept material.

Not just that either, they've literally given nothing away to the public since November 7th last year, which was their N7 day Shepard thing, and prior to that it was the announcement trailer with the Johnny Cash song in it.

So many of their staff have left since that announcement too, it's quite troubling to think of how the game is and probably has been effected by it.

The concept stuff has been out for years now, and oddly enough the quarter it's scheduled to be released in, will mark the 5th year anniversary of ME3's release. Which basically means they've been on this project for at least 6 years as they'd announced just post release of ME3 that they were already working on a new ME title.

Could be just fanboy paranoia but i get the impression they've gone back to the drawing board more than a few times with this and managed to piss off a lot of their senior writers, enough to make them leave in the process.

Pendreds Fists of Fury wrote: »

A perfect opportunity to release the remastered trilogy.

Do it.

They have come and said it twice that they have no intention of doing it and EA have no interest of it happening either.

I'd welcome it and buy it straight away.

Zero-Cool wrote: »

A leaked survey has revealed a couple of details. Looks like humans are the aliens this time invading exploring planets looking for a place to call home and are met with some heavy resistance.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-03-30-mass-effect-andromeda-marketing-survey-leaks

Cool. Get to do what humans do and exterminate some local fauna!

Falthyron wrote: »

Putting all my talents in 'Common Cold'/'Influenza' where my very presence will wipe out indigenous life and 'Syphilis' where I can fúck my adversary to death should he or she ever get that close to me.

Someone get this guy a survey to fill out ASAP!

Loved ME and completed the trilogy and I will play this new game but I just hope that if it's another series there's not as much confusion between the entries. Like infinite ammo to needing heat clips. Weapon drops to no weapon drops/buy in shop. Mako to no mako/mineral mining etc etc. They never really got it right I think and chopped and changed too much.

Skerries wrote: »

some leaked gameplay and effects

https://vid.me/p41b

Showed up yesterday, not sure how much stock i'd put in it, but the jetpack did look pretty cool

Delayed til early 2017...

http://www.masseffect.com/news/an-update-on-mass-effect-andromeda.html?utm_campaign=mea_hd_ww_ic_soco_fb_social-global-ic-fb-may-update-blog&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&cid=5197&ts=1462896614644&sf46188285=1

Captain Chaos wrote: »

You already posted that in post 223 a two months ago.:D

Ah WTF man...i feel like I'm in delayception

Any chance of a remastered collection this year then?