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Second Captains Part II

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  • #202
    padd b1975
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,782 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    NavyandBlue wrote: »
    I’m looking forward to the lads’ take on the Djokovic disqualification. The holier-than-thou style rules of tennis and golf are exactly the type of thing to send Ken off on a rant.

    I still remember his rant about Steve Williams, Tiger's old caddy.


  • #203
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,810 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Ken on Darren Randolph in his report on the Finland game:
    At one point in the Bulgaria game last Thursday, Randolph could be overheard micro-managing Shane Duffy after the centre-back had put the ball out of play and then picked it up. Randolph didn’t want Duffy to let Bulgaria make a quick restart. “Don’t give it back to him! Drop it, drop it!” he urged, like an unsporting manager in an under-8s game, except it was Ireland’s captain he was ordering about...At one point in the first half Finland strung together what seemed like about 150 passes, with Randolph sounding increasingly like someone having a meltdown in a zombie movie: “Check the shoulder! Keep them outside! KEEP THEM OUTSIDE! GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT!”

    Genius:D


  • #204
    yermandan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,068 ✭✭✭yermandan


    'He passed up the opportunity to meet Nelson Mandela to be fresh and ready for a David Beckham hairstyle unveiling'

    Possibly Ken's best work yet


  • #205
    Still Ill
    Registered Users Posts: 1,437 ✭✭✭Still Ill


    Was looking forward to the Patriots segment when I saw it in the episode description, but that guy was ridiculously biased in his view of their past transgressions. Not a great listen.


  • #206
    Ivefoundgod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭Ivefoundgod


    Still Ill wrote: »
    Was looking forward to the Patriots segment when I saw it in the episode description, but that guy was ridiculously biased in his view of their past transgressions. Not a great listen.

    He was shocking, absolutely 100% Pats fanboy. I thought I was hearing things when he said about the phone being destroyed every year. This despite we were all bombarded with the below story for a solid week barely a month back. He must have thought being an Irish pod he could bull**** them. Surely he'd have heard this himself? Pity Eoin didn't pull him on it.

    https://www.insider.com/tom-brady-earns-25-million-per-year-uses-iphone-6-2020-8

    https://ftw.usatoday.com/2020/08/buccaneers-tom-brady-iphone-6-jokes


  • #207
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,635 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Ken was left ruefully considering how badly he fell for the obvious Messi baloney. We all love him, but he can get too excited at times.


  • #208
    dulpit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,404 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Still Ill wrote: »
    Was looking forward to the Patriots segment when I saw it in the episode description, but that guy was ridiculously biased in his view of their past transgressions. Not a great listen.
    Ivefoundgod wrote: »
    He was shocking, absolutely 100% Pats fanboy. I thought I was hearing things when he said about the phone being destroyed every year. This despite we were all bombarded with the below story for a solid week barely a month back. He must have thought being an Irish pod he could bull**** them. Surely he'd have heard this himself? Pity Eoin didn't pull him on it.

    https://www.insider.com/tom-brady-earns-25-million-per-year-uses-iphone-6-2020-8

    https://ftw.usatoday.com/2020/08/buccaneers-tom-brady-iphone-6-jokes

    Saw these comments. Assumed it was over the top. Just listened now. That guy was painful. What I took from it is that Tom Brady is amazing. Bill Belichick is unreal. Robert Kraft should be a diplomat. The Patriots are world famous.

    I nearly gave up right at the start when he said the Patriots are the biggest team, by far, in the area. I'm pretty confident that the Celtics and (in particular) the Red Sox would like to debate that.


  • #209
    Ivefoundgod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭Ivefoundgod


    dulpit wrote: »
    Saw these comments. Assumed it was over the top. Just listened now. That guy was painful. What I took from it is that Tom Brady is amazing. Bill Belichick is unreal. Robert Kraft should be a diplomat. The Patriots are world famous.

    I nearly gave up right at the start when he said the Patriots are the biggest team, by far, in the area. I'm pretty confident that the Celtics and (in particular) the Red Sox would like to debate that.

    I did a quick google last night to see were there any reviews of the book but couldn't find anything other than some interviews with the author. I'd love to read a review to see if there are discrepancies in his version of events. I'm not even particularly bothered about the Pats success and the stuff they got up to, I don't like them sure but I don't really care all that much about deflategate or spygate but he seemed to be totally re-writing history and basically saying it was all no big deal and the Pats are great.

    I also can't believe any researcher/author would prefer written response to interview questions, surely you get less off the cuff remarks then and the respondant can ensure they say nothing incriminating. Which is what it sounds like Bill did for this book.


  • #210
    dulpit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,404 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Ivefoundgod wrote: »
    I also can't believe any researcher/author would prefer written response to interview questions, surely you get less off the cuff remarks then and the respondant can ensure they say nothing incriminating. Which is what it sounds like Bill did for this book.

    Meant to say that too, it was like he was saying it was okay that he was pawned off, he prefered that.. :rolleyes:


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  • #211
    applehunter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,056 ✭✭✭applehunter


    Dion Fanning sneering his way through life.


  • #212
    Xavi6
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,899 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    applehunter wrote: »
    Dion Fanning sneering his way through life.

    Gone from Joe dot eye eee apparently, it'll be interesting to see where he ends up.

    The rugby stuff yesterday was awfully boring (no surprise).


  • #213
    Brock Turnpike
    Registered Users Posts: 3,756 ✭✭✭Brock Turnpike


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Gone from Joe dot eye eee apparently, it'll be interesting to see where he ends up.

    The rugby stuff yesterday was awfully boring (no surprise).

    Not too sound like captain hindsight, but I couldn't believe Dion went there in the first place.


  • #214
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Gone from Joe dot eye eee apparently, it'll be interesting to see where he ends up.

    The rugby stuff yesterday was awfully boring (no surprise).

    I liked Ireland Unfiltered, pity it won't be back then.

    Must be very recent is it? He did the Joe soccer show post Bulgaria but not Finland.


  • #215
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,635 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Dion does have a sneery attitude but he isn't the worst contributor they have on.

    I listened to the rugby stuff yesterday - first time in a while. So dull, Jesus Christ.


  • #216
    TRANQUILLO
    Registered Users Posts: 453 ✭✭TRANQUILLO


    Arghus wrote: »
    Dion does have a sneery attitude but he isn't the worst contributor they have on.

    I listened to the rugby stuff yesterday - first time in a while. So dull, Jesus Christ.

    The rugby lads (and rugby as a whole) have disappeared up their own arse.

    And I say this as someone for whom rugby is their favourite sport.

    "learnings" "kpi's" and other corporate jargon has permeated into the rugby lexicon. i work in aviation leasing and ive noticed 4 ex internationals have been parachuted into the industry. Took me 20 years to get where they got post rugby careers. I didnt go to a private school or play for ireland i suppose.

    If you look into LinkedIn pages of some old irish players you will see they are littered through high finance and the grand canal dock "set". This is their language.

    Im not casting aspersions per se but they definitely represent a different cadre of society and they way they speak on the game is a reflection of this. Cater to the ABC 1's and don't upset anyone.

    They are far removed from your Brian Kerrs and James McCleans. There is a smugness to the discourse on OTB, Second Captains, BBC . Everywhere

    It's so apt that even on second captains they draft in their south of the liffey accented Simon Hick to wax lyrical with thornley about physicality. The nadir was reached when they referred to jack cartys frontal cortex and synapse performance.

    All it needed was for some lads to drive by in a car shouting " rugby ****"


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  • #217
    Jim Root
    Registered Users Posts: 487 ✭✭Jim Root


    TRANQUILLO wrote: »
    The rugby lads (and rugby as a whole) have disappeared up their own arse.

    And I say this as someone for whom rugby is their favourite sport.

    "learnings" "kpi's" and other corporate jargon has permeated into the rugby lexicon. i work in aviation leasing and ive noticed 4 ex internationals have been parachuted into the industry. Took me 20 years to get where they got post rugby careers. I didnt go to a private school or play for ireland i suppose.

    If you look into LinkedIn pages of some old irish players you will see they are littered through high finance and the grand canal dock "set". This is their language.

    Im not casting aspersions per se but they definitely represent a different cadre of society and they way they speak on the game is a reflection of this. Cater to the ABC 1's and don't upset anyone.

    They are far removed from your Brian Kerrs and James McCleans. There is a smugness to the discourse on OTB, Second Captains, BBC . Everywhere

    It's so apt that even on second captains they draft in their south of the liffey accented Simon Hick to wax lyrical with thornley about physicality. The nadir was reached when they referred to jack cartys frontal cortex and synapse performance.

    All it needed was for some lads to drive by in a car shouting " rugby ****"

    You most certainly are.


  • #218
    TRANQUILLO
    Registered Users Posts: 453 ✭✭TRANQUILLO


    Jim Root wrote: »
    You most certainly are.

    i told ya i wazint b4 i sed it


  • #219
    Brock Turnpike
    Registered Users Posts: 3,756 ✭✭✭Brock Turnpike


    TRANQUILLO wrote: »
    The rugby lads (and rugby as a whole) have disappeared up their own arse.

    And I say this as someone for whom rugby is their favourite sport.

    "learnings" "kpi's" and other corporate jargon has permeated into the rugby lexicon. i work in aviation leasing and ive noticed 4 ex internationals have been parachuted into the industry. Took me 20 years to get where they got post rugby careers. I didnt go to a private school or play for ireland i suppose.

    If you look into LinkedIn pages of some old irish players you will see they are littered through high finance and the grand canal dock "set". This is their language.

    Im not casting aspersions per se but they definitely represent a different cadre of society and they way they speak on the game is a reflection of this. Cater to the ABC 1's and don't upset anyone.

    They are far removed from your Brian Kerrs and James McCleans. There is a smugness to the discourse on OTB, Second Captains, BBC . Everywhere

    It's so apt that even on second captains they draft in their south of the liffey accented Simon Hick to wax lyrical with thornley about physicality. The nadir was reached when they referred to jack cartys frontal cortex and synapse performance.

    All it needed was for some lads to drive by in a car shouting " rugby ****"

    ****ing hell, I'd manage to bury that deep in the recesses of my brain. Thanks for reminding me!

    If I could thank your post umpteen times, I would.


  • #220
    thenightman
    Registered Users Posts: 561 ✭✭✭thenightman


    Loved Ken's Mitchell & Webb-esque "Who will get to wear the white shirts in that one? tune in to find out!" when Eoin mentioned Premier Sports would be showing Leeds/Fulham this season.


  • #221
    DukeCaboom
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    Ken on arseblog this week. Always enjoyable because he is so relaxed with Andrew.


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  • #222
    yermandan
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    DukeCaboom wrote: »
    Ken on arseblog this week. Always enjoyable because he is so relaxed with Andrew.

    Cheers for this


  • #223
    applehunter
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    DukeCaboom wrote: »
    Ken on arseblog this week. Always enjoyable because he is so relaxed with Andrew.

    525999.jpg


  • #224
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,635 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Ken channeling his inner Pádraig Pearse on yesterday’s show.


  • #225
    Still Ill
    Registered Users Posts: 1,437 ✭✭✭Still Ill


    Really enjoyed the show yesterday! A lot of fun and the TDF stuff was interesting too


  • #226
    unplayable
    Registered Users Posts: 862 ✭✭✭unplayable


    Fast forwarded through trimby and shaggy today Jesus what a dose. The rugby segments are awful these days as said earlier in the thread. Snooze


  • #227
    Utopia Parkway
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    unplayable wrote: »
    Fast forwarded through trimby and shaggy today Jesus what a dose. The rugby segments are awful these days as said earlier in the thread. Snooze

    Horgan is completely overused by them on the rugby. He's very often the only pundit they use. At least on the football they have maybe a dozen different contributors that they use semi-regularly.


  • #228
    dr.kenneth noisewater
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    Utopia Parkway wrote:
    Horgan is completely overused by them on the rugby. He's very often the only pundit they use. At least on the football they have maybe a dozen different contributors that they use semi-regularly.


    Very hard pay someone else when he's doing it for free!


  • #229
    dulpit
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    I think the issue with the rugby is they talk about the gameplay, rather than the bigger picture. So it's technical in nature and a right snooze. Whereas their soccerball coverage is more wider picture focused, which is more interesting. Especially when covering a game from a few days ago.


  • #230
    Robert McGrath
    Registered Users Posts: 437 ✭✭Robert McGrath


    Bit of a non sequitur but I looked up Cantona’s goal against Wimbledon in 1996 after one of the lads compared Mo Salah’s goal and celebration against Leeds to it. Worth looking up because it’s a really brilliant comparison. There’s a beautiful arrogance to both strikes that’s very similar


  • #231
    lawred2
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    the only interesting rugby pundit I find is Andy Dunne... He actually tends to hold contrary opinions and communicates them well without being an arse... Refreshing to step back from a lot of the group think hero worship crap that makes up the rest of the rugby coverage

    unfortunately he's mostly found contributing to Newstalk..


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  • #232
    TRANQUILLO
    Registered Users Posts: 453 ✭✭TRANQUILLO


    lawred2 wrote: »
    the only interesting rugby pundit I find is Andy Dunne... He actually tends to hold contrary opinions and communicates them well without being an arse... Refreshing to step back from a lot of the group think hero worship crap that makes up the rest of the rugby coverage

    unfortunately he's mostly found contributing to Newstalk..

    Have you seen that sycophant Kinsella on twitter. He's the worst of the lot.
    Complete and utter fanboy.


  • #233
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,635 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Interesting chat about John Delaney yesterday but I'd be lying if I said my main take away wasn't that Mark Tighe pronounces it Packie Boner.


  • #234
    Still Ill
    Registered Users Posts: 1,437 ✭✭✭Still Ill


    Arghus wrote: »
    Interesting chat about John Delaney yesterday but I'd be lying if I said my main take away wasn't that Mark Tighe pronounces it Packie Boner.

    I think that's actually the way Packie pronounces it himself. The Donegal pronounciation


  • #235
    Cienciano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,310 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    TRANQUILLO wrote: »
    The rugby lads (and rugby as a whole) have disappeared up their own arse.

    And I say this as someone for whom rugby is their favourite sport.

    "learnings" "kpi's" and other corporate jargon has permeated into the rugby lexicon. i work in aviation leasing and ive noticed 4 ex internationals have been parachuted into the industry. Took me 20 years to get where they got post rugby careers. I didnt go to a private school or play for ireland i suppose.

    If you look into LinkedIn pages of some old irish players you will see they are littered through high finance and the grand canal dock "set". This is their language.

    Im not casting aspersions per se but they definitely represent a different cadre of society and they way they speak on the game is a reflection of this. Cater to the ABC 1's and don't upset anyone.

    They are far removed from your Brian Kerrs and James McCleans. There is a smugness to the discourse on OTB, Second Captains, BBC . Everywhere

    It's so apt that even on second captains they draft in their south of the liffey accented Simon Hick to wax lyrical with thornley about physicality. The nadir was reached when they referred to jack cartys frontal cortex and synapse performance.

    All it needed was for some lads to drive by in a car shouting " rugby ****"
    That's so true about the rugby coverage. I said something similar last year:

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=111540046&postcount=8489


  • #236
    Still Ill
    Registered Users Posts: 1,437 ✭✭✭Still Ill


    If they had Ken talking about the rugby coach/player drama rather than the tactical minutia of every single position I'd be sure to tune in.


  • #237
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,476 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    We need a rugby version of Ken to call out the bullshít.

    Scrap the cap!



  • #238
    Arghus
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    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    We need a rugby version of Ken to call out the bullshít.

    I think if you can call out bullshít you won't work in Rugby punditry.


  • #239
    Raoul
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,791 ✭✭✭Raoul


    Murph really annoyed me yesterday or maybe it was the day before. Ken was talking about Michael Collins when they were talking about Doherty or Dockerty. Ken was about to start talking about something completely ridiculous about being down by the statue or something and Murph just had to interject and talk over him. Murphs point was right but whatever, it's entertainment and that's what Ken provides. I want to know what the statue ****e talk was. :(


  • #240
    Brock Turnpike
    Registered Users Posts: 3,756 ✭✭✭Brock Turnpike


    Raoul wrote: »
    Murph really annoyed me yesterday or maybe it was the day before. Ken was talking about Michael Collins when they were talking about Doherty or Dockerty. Ken was about to start talking about something completely ridiculous about being down by the statue or something and Murph just had to interject and talk over him. Murphs point was right but whatever, it's entertainment and that's what Ken provides. I want to know what the statue ****e talk was. :(

    Email them


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  • #241
    Beersmith
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭Beersmith


    Raoul wrote: »
    Murph really annoyed me yesterday or maybe it was the day before. Ken was talking about Michael Collins when they were talking about Doherty or Dockerty. Ken was about to start talking about something completely ridiculous about being down by the statue or something and Murph just had to interject and talk over him. Murphs point was right but whatever, it's entertainment and that's what Ken provides. I want to know what the statue ****e talk was. :(

    Your wrong, Murph had started talking and ken interjected him! Murph simply followed through and let ken at it. It was 14.30 onwards of Fridays pod btw.

    Now i was more interested in hearing Ken but it wasn't murph who interjected.


  • #242
    Raoul
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,791 ✭✭✭Raoul


    Beersmith wrote: »
    Your wrong, Murph had started talking and ken interjected him! Murph simply followed through and let ken at it. It was 14.30 onwards of Fridays pod btw.

    Now i was more interested in hearing Ken but it wasn't murph who interjected.

    Maybe my post looked a little bit more serious than it was. Sorry ha. It was a little bit in jest.


  • #243
    Cienciano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,310 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    I wonder if Giles and Dunphy will stfu about their "football men" shít after Mark Tighes book? Dunphy supported Delaney until very late in day, turns out the cost to buy Dunphy is a few Manchester United tickets.


  • #244
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,476 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    We always knew Dunphy was a hoor, the question was, how much!

    Scrap the cap!



  • #245
    Ol' Donie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,673 ✭✭✭✭Ol' Donie


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    We need a rugby version of Ken to call out the bullshít.

    Ken Burley was the greatest ever rugby pundit.


  • #246
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,635 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Cienciano wrote: »
    I wonder if Giles and Dunphy will stfu about their "football men" shít after Mark Tighes book? Dunphy supported Delaney until very late in day, turns out the cost to buy Dunphy is a few Manchester United tickets.

    I'm also reading the book at the moment.

    Even though I think I know the whole sorry story pretty well, there's still details on most pages that just make me say, "Jesus Christ".

    Random sample: The final bill for Delaney's 50th birthday was 80,000 Euro - including 3,609 Euro for helicopters to ferry guests...that were never used.


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  • #247
    [Deleted User]
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    Just as an aside, as I wouldn't know where else too ask, how long would it normally be before an audio book version would come out for a new release?


  • #248
    Cienciano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,310 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Arghus wrote: »
    I'm also reading the book at the moment.

    Even though I think I know the whole sorry story pretty well, there's still details on most pages that just make me say, "Jesus Christ".

    Random sample: The final bill for Delaney's 50th birthday was 80,000 Euro - including 3,609 Euro for helicopters to ferry guests...that were never used.

    The crazy bit is that even though he expensed everything, clothes, food, rent, travel etc he still needs to take out €10k a year in cash with the credit card. I'd struggle to spend it. And his girlfriend dumped him when the money started to dry up too.


  • #249
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,635 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    Just as an aside, as I wouldn't know where else too ask, how long would it normally be before an audio book version would come out for a new release?

    Have they said for sure that there will be an audio book? There wouldn't be much of audience outside of Ireland so the publishers mightn't feel it was worth the effort.


  • #250
    BikeRacer
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    Arghus wrote: »
    Have they said for sure that there will be an audio book? There wouldn't be much of audience outside of Ireland so the publishers mightn't feel it was worth the effort.

    https://twitter.com/marktigheST/status/1305233034422226945


  • #251
    happydude742
    Registered Users Posts: 67 ✭✭happydude742


    Dunphy is a survivor. He will support whatever way the wind is blowing next..... entertaining man but complete blow bag.


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