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UFC 251 - Usman vs Masvidal Sat July 11th

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,325 ✭✭✭iLikeWaffles


    Mellor wrote: »
    It absolutely should have been stoped earlier.

    But to in all honestly, sometimes the best intelligent defence is to shell up and protect your head. Tough spot from Also to get out of alive.

    Turtle is simply a terrible position (in MMA)

    If there was 20 seconds left in the round I'd agree, but there wasn't! That position is an automatic stoppage but a shorter period of what that ref went to. Crazy ref.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,095 ✭✭✭hawaii501


    Masvidal by KO/TKO
    Yeah and the noise of the shots he was taking, weren't just jabs for the sake of it.

    Would agree maybe if it was the last minute to hang on but was going from 20secs into the round.

    Hopefully a rematch of the first fight here. Should be a good one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,325 ✭✭✭iLikeWaffles


    There was one punch that opened Aldo up, the blood on the mat was ridiculous for the short distance Yan threw it, lethal. Blood stain still there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,595 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Aldo by KO/TKO
    If there was 20 seconds left in the round I'd agree, but there wasn't! That position is an automatic stoppage but a shorter period of what that ref went to. Crazy ref.

    The time left in the round is irrelevant to the ref’s decision.
    And I agreed it should have been stopped sooner.

    I was just also pointing out that sometimes shelling up and “doing nothing” is the most intelligent defence is a bad spot.
    Conversely fans will typically complain if a fight is stopped if a fighter is actively moving - even if that movement is leaving him unprotected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,475 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    Holloway very much looking like his old self tonight, very sharp and finding the target consistently.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    Yan by Sub
    Alexander getting lit up, c'mon max


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    Yan by Sub
    I'm on the max wagon, Alex from the vlogs is dry as fcuk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,325 ✭✭✭iLikeWaffles


    Mellor wrote: »
    The time left in the round is irrelevant to the ref’s decision.
    And I agreed it should have been stopped sooner.

    I was just also pointing out that sometimes shelling up and “doing nothing” is the most intelligent defence is a bad spot.
    Conversely fans will typically complain if a fight is stopped if a fighter is actively moving - even if that movement is leaving him unprotected.

    Shelling up like that is defeat, it's up to the ref to recognise that. Fine line between defeat and brain damage. Obviously the ref took his fair share of punches.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    Yan by Sub
    Am I understanding this right, only difference is max is matching the point scoring of leg kicks from the first fight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,595 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Aldo by KO/TKO
    martyos121 wrote: »
    Holloway very much looking like his old self tonight, very sharp and finding the target consistently.

    He looks great. I have him edging it, but I haven’t been scoring round by round


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,595 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Aldo by KO/TKO
    Shelling up like that is defeat,.
    Ok, what is your alternative intelligent way of defending from there?

    Obviously not getting into that position is optimal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,475 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    I’d give that to Max 48-47, but honestly it could go either way and I wouldn’t question the decision.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    Yan by Sub
    Max 3-2 from me


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


    Toss up there


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_


    Yan by Sub
    Balls!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,256 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Such a close fight! I have the first 3 rounds to Max but that 3rd is a 10-10 in an ideal world


  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Jayden Melodic Rumor


    Aldo by KO/TKO
    Disgraceful decision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,475 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    A fight of two halves there, and the coin fell in Volkanovski’s favour. Razor close decision though, I’m eager to see how evenly split the MMA journos will be on it.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Definitely wasn't expecting that decision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,127 ✭✭✭finglashoop


    Yan by Sub
    Clearly 3-2 to max.

    Awful decision


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,545 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Classic UFC robbery, what fight are the judges watching at all?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,532 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Aldo by KO/TKO
    Thought max took it but very close fight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,532 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Aldo by KO/TKO
    Classic UFC robbery, what fight are the judges watching at all?

    Not a robbery in the slightest.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


    I'd have preferred Max to win but during that 3rd round when Bisping was saying Max should be 3 up I felt that Volk was winning the round so 3-2 Volk would have been my card.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,762 ✭✭✭bmcc10


    How can people call that a robbery it was razor close


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,256 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Classic UFC robbery, what fight are the judges watching at all?

    If you had Max winning, fair enough.

    But to call that a robbery is ludicrous. The judges were watching the same fight I was anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 128 ✭✭oyvey


    The knockdowns in the early rounds should count for more than it appears they did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,256 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    oyvey wrote: »
    The knockdowns in the early rounds should count for more than it appears they did.

    They did count. They won Max the rounds.

    He lost 3, 4 & 5 though in the eyes of two of the judges. That was the problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,532 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Aldo by KO/TKO
    oyvey wrote: »
    The knockdowns in the early rounds should count for more than it appears they did.

    Flash knock-downs that did not damage.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,532 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Aldo by KO/TKO
    MrStuffins wrote: »
    They did count. They won Max the rounds.

    He lost 3, 4 & 5 though in the eyes of two of the judges. That was the problem.

    He's hinting towards a 10-8 rule.


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