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Donald Trump is the President Mark IV (Read Mod Warning in OP)

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 915 ✭✭✭2 Scoops


    everlast75 wrote: »
    We've been over this.

    Speak for yourself - just because you belong to an echo chamber where your views are never challenged doesn't give your post any more validity than mine. You should get back to writing your conspiracies on Jeff Sessions being a Russian agent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    2 Scoops wrote: »
    Speak for yourself - just because you belong to an echo chamber where your views are never challenged doesn't give your post any more validity than mine. You should get back to writing your conspiracies on Jeff Sessions being a Russian agent.

    TBF, Jeff really didn't do himself any favours with his selective memory wrt to the Russians did he?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 915 ✭✭✭2 Scoops


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    TBF, Jeff really didn't do himself any favours with his selective memory wrt to the Russians did he?

    If you read the question he was asked in context his answer didn't deserve the hysteria it received, coincidentally a day after Trump's state of the union address that was well received. Imo it was manufactured political outcry.

    It wasn't my intention to bring up Clinton, when I read things saying the GOP is far more corrupt than the Democratic party it annoys me. I gave a one line retort and said "We can agree to disagree", before a poster wrote a long sarcastic reply with smileys. Both are as bad as each other for selling out, Feinstein is one of the worst examples with China and even the most moderate liberal knows Clinton is corrupt as they come. That's a big reason Trump won, Michael Moore said it best at the time. I'm not arguing that Trump and the people around him aren't corrupt at all, but for whatever reason two things don't seem to be able to be true at once on this forum with the majority of posters.

    Done posting for now as I don't want to drag the thread off topic anymore.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    2 Scoops wrote: »
    Speak for yourself - just because you belong to an echo chamber where your views are never challenged doesn't give your post any more validity than mine. You should get back to writing your conspiracies on Jeff Sessions being a Russian agent.

    Thing is, the facts do speak for themselves: the Republicans have controlled all Houses for, 8 years is it? Donald Trump explicitly promised to open a case against Clinton if elected - live on TV. The Benghazi hearings have been & gone yet Clinton remains. Say what you will about her own dirty laundry but like George Soros she was turned into a massive scapegoat & punching bag. She appears to be about as honest as Bertie Ahern yet with a more robust system for administrative investigations, the Republicans have nothing against Clinton.

    Meanwhile, the Mueller Investigation can claim 8 convictions, and IIRC about 25+ indictments I believe. Several of these were / are individuals close to Donald Trump. Various family members such as Kushner & Trump Jr. appear to be circumstantially close to events, even if they have yet to join the above tally. There are a LOT of people within his orbit whose affairs appear to be pretty questionable. Even Nigel Farage has become a Person of Interest in the investigation.

    No, there has been no smoking gun linking back to Trump, but between the stories of his post 2008 sources of credit, and the continuing he-said-she-said over Stormy, and so on, his paper-trail appears to be ... weak. The continuing refusal to release the tax returns - while claiming they are simply too complex for mere mortals and he's under audit anyway - doesn't engender a sense of an innocent man.

    Hillary Clinton & Donald Trump were both spectacularly awful candidates, but the very best you can say about both individuals' respective affairs, is that Clinton possibly hides her dirt better than Trump; and if half the people under the microscope of Mueller turn out to be guilty in some way shape or form - that demonstrates an incredible lack of nous and judgement on the part of the President.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Tittle tattle perhaps but is there a risk of the Pres' personal constitution taking a dive?

    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/14/politics/donald-trump-mood-pissed-white-house-intrigue/index.html


    "Some of his longtime confidants are worried for his health, believing he's gained weight and looks unwell."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 915 ✭✭✭2 Scoops


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Thing is, the facts do speak for themselves: the Republicans have controlled all Houses for, 8 years is it? Donald Trump explicitly promised to open a case against Clinton if elected - live on TV. The Benghazi hearings have been & gone yet Clinton remains. Say what you will about her own dirty laundry but like George Soros she was turned into a massive scapegoat & punching bag.

    The day or days after the election Trump said in a 60 minutes interview he won't pursue any investigation into Clinton, it was a battle cry to get his support fired up, obviously he lied about hiring a special prosecutor once he got in. George Soros's influence around the world is massive, he was actively directing state department foreign policy while Clinton was Secretory of state. This is a man who was found guilty for insider trading in France and crashed the UK currency for profit, he's no angel.

    https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/Clinton_Email_September_Release/C05778285.pdf
    Meanwhile, the Mueller Investigation can claim 8 convictions, and IIRC about 25+ indictments I believe. Several of these were / are individuals close to Donald Trump. Various family members such as Kushner & Trump Jr. appear to be circumstantially close to events, even if they have yet to join the above tally. There are a LOT of people within his orbit whose affairs appear to be pretty questionable. Even Nigel Farage has become a Person of Interest in the investigation.

    All that being true, not one American has a conviction thus far layed out for Russian collusion. This is obviously subject to change but forgive me for not giving two hoots what dodgy dealings Paul Manafort got up to 15 years ago.
    No, there has been no smoking gun linking back to Trump, but between the stories of his post 2008 sources of credit, and the continuing he-said-she-said over Stormy, and so on, his paper-trail appears to be ... weak. The continuing refusal to release the tax returns - while claiming they are simply too complex for mere mortals and he's under audit anyway - doesn't engender a sense of an innocent man.

    I agree, I said 2 years ago he should have released his tax returns because it's never going to away, he is hiding something. Whether that's not paying taxes or something more illustrious we don't know yet.
    Hillary Clinton & Donald Trump were both spectacularly awful candidates, but the very best you can say about both individuals' respective affairs, is that Clinton possibly hides her dirt better than Trump; and if half the people under the microscope of Mueller turn out to be guilty in some way shape or form - that demonstrates an incredible lack of nous and judgement on the part of the President.

    I totally agree. I'm not sure it's a commendable trait though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,128 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    2 Scoops wrote: »
    Speak for yourself - just because you belong to an echo chamber

    If its an echo chamber, its one with an exit. You can always use it if you wish.
    2 Scoops wrote: »
    where your views are never challenged doesn't give your post any more validity than mine.

    My posts are challenged quite regularly, albeit rarely in a civil way.
    2 Scoops wrote: »
    You should get back to writing your conspiracies on Jeff Sessions being a Russian agent.

    I never said he was a Russian Agent. Please highlight where I did. What I said was he lied/mislead (whatever way you put it) congress and in accordance with the recommendations of the ethics committee, recused himself. That's pretty clear, and its pretty clear why Trump fired him while we are at it - he wants an AG loyal to him, which is why he hired his latest one.
    2 Scoops wrote: »
    The day or days after the election Trump said in a 60 minutes interview he won't pursue any investigation into Clinton
    lie number 1
    2 Scoops wrote: »
    it was a battle cry to get his support fired up, obviously he lied (lie number 2)about hiring a special prosecutor once he got in.
    2 Scoops wrote: »
    George Soros's influence around the world is massive, he was actively directing state department foreign policy while Clinton was Secretory of state. This is a man who was found guilty for insider trading in France and crashed the UK currency for profit, he's no angel.

    Was he behind the caravan then? You know, the one that isn't mentioned anymore after the election.
    2 Scoops wrote: »
    All that being true, not one American has a conviction thus far layed out for Russian collusion. This is obviously subject to change

    Absolutely.
    2 Scoops wrote: »
    I agree, I said 2 years ago he should have released his tax returns because it's never going to away, he is hiding something. Whether that's not paying taxes or something more illustrious we don't know yet.

    Lie number 3 from Trump - he promised he would pre-election and hasn't.

    As for what they contain, you are right, we don't know. However, at the very least, the recent spread in the NYT may give us a slight hint.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,128 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    This guy seems totally innocent, and not rattled or unhinged at all....


    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1063042585802039296

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1063046973857718272





    (Psst - amongst many other gaslights here, Robert Mueller did not work for Obama for 8 years. He ran the FBI under George W Bush for nearly 8 years. He remained FBI Director under Obama for 4 years, confirmed to extend his 10-year term by a Senate vote of 100-0.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,780 ✭✭✭amandstu


    everlast75 wrote: »
    This guy seems totally innocent, and not rattled or unhinged at all....


    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1063042585802039296

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1063046973857718272





    (Psst - amongst many other gaslights here, Mueller was a DOJ appointee during GOP Administrations & was selected to head the FBI by George W. Bush. The term runs for 10 years, so he carried over into Obama’s Administration for 5 years (not 8)

    The new normal ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,755 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    2 Scoops wrote: »
    "Why does Trump get away with corruption? Because Bill and Hillary Clinton normalized it."

    No, Trump gets away with it because his supporters are hypocrites.

    Clintons didn't normalise it, isn't corruption one of the main reasons cited by many Trump supporters of why they hated HC so much?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    My brain continually goes into meltdown when I try to put myself in the shoes of someone who claims, "It's Hillary Clinton's fault that Donald Trump got elected".

    I just can't...even.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,500 ✭✭✭ECO_Mental


    2 Scoops wrote: »

    What corruption has Trump been ACTUALLY convicted of? <- Your logic right there.

    "


    Trump University right off the top of my head......

    "Trump University was also the subject of two class action lawsuits in federal court. The lawsuits centered around allegations that Trump University defrauded its students by using misleading marketing practices and engaging in aggressive sales tactics. The company and the lawsuits against it received renewed interest due to Trump's candidacy in the 2016 presidential election. Despite repeatedly insisting that he would not settle, Trump settled all three lawsuits in November 2016 for a total of $25 million after being elected to the presidency"

    I don't have the time to go into details but Trump has been involved in about 3,500 legal cases over the past 40+ years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_Donald_Trump


    The man isn't fit to run a car wash:mad:

    6.1kWp south facing, South of Cork City



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    seamus wrote: »
    My brain continually goes into meltdown when I try to put myself in the shoes of someone who claims, "It's Hillary Clinton's fault that Donald Trump got elected".

    I just can't...even.

    My brain melts when I imagine the reaction if Hilary pulled half the stuff he did... Imagine Hilary installed Chelsea on her staff never mind giving a bunch of jobs to her husband...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,951 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    It is now an absolute Article of Faith for some people that Hillary Clinton is the most evil, corrupt person to ever walk the face of the earth. The lack of evidence or criminal convictions only prove how cunning and powerful she is, you see.

    Because she HAS to be worse than Trump, no matter what he does, she must be worse; otherwise continuing to support him, to make excuses for him, to ignore all the things he says and does becomes impossible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,189 ✭✭✭Stallingrad


    everlast75 wrote: »

    It is awful how many lives are being ruined, justice is terrible that way.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,128 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    B0jangles wrote: »
    It is now an absolute Article of Faith for some people that Hillary Clinton is the most evil, corrupt person to ever walk the face of the earth. The lack of evidence or criminal convictions only prove how cunning and powerful she is, you see.

    Because she HAS to be worse than Trump, no matter what he does, she must be worse; otherwise continuing to support him, to make excuses for him, to ignore all the things he says and does becomes impossible.

    Indeed.

    Trump fails to turn up to a number of high profile events held to honour the military, calls for postal votes (which incl military) to be discounted and not a peep from his supporters.

    Obama holds a takeaway coffee when saluting an officer and Fox calls it a "latte salute" and literally talks about it for over 2 days.

    It's mind boggling.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    I don't entirely agree with this idea that Clinton is regarded as the anti-christ by all; I think there are subtler bands of comparison here & believe there are arguments made - and have seen them made - that there is a legitimate moral equivalence between Clinton's corruption & Trump's own. That 1 case of corruption is comparable with 100, or a systemic institution of malpractice (such as Trump University) As I said myself, the Republican demographic chooses to believe Clinton being the epicentre of all Washington corruption and maleficence - but IMO that's a different shading to those that would claim both 2016 candidates are equivalent. Basically the whole "they're both as bad as each other" argument that many made en route to a Jill Stein vote etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,951 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    I did say 'for some people', I wasn't suggesting that everyone who has or had doubts about Clinton thinks she is the most corrupt person ever to set foot in Washington, but there is a very vocal contingent who absolutely do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,217 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    My brain melts when I imagine the reaction if Hilary pulled half the stuff he did... Imagine Hilary installed Chelsea on her staff never mind giving a bunch of jobs to her husband...
    What would Monica do then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,755 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    ELM327 wrote: »
    What would Monica do then?

    I assume Monica would continue on her campaign to tackle bullying and harassment through social media.

    Maybe Melania should consider looking into that rather than getting people fired that she doesn't like.

    Talk about abuse of power!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,375 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    The Trump twitter machine is ramping up towards hysteria condition 5. Is Mueller breathing down his neck?

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1063042585802039296

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1063046973857718272


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,013 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    2 Scoops wrote: »
    ...Why does Trump get away with corruption? Because Bill and Hillary Clinton normalized it.

    Well if that isn't the most blinkered one sided nonsense I've seen in a long time.

    So the public were fine with the perception Trump gave of Hillary during the campaign? I guess he won by complete fluke.
    I'll tell you what normalises corruption, people like yourself excusing it under a banner of whataboutery. What ever the Clintons did or didn't do Trump is his own man. His base are told all negative stories about him are fake. Trump gets away with being what he is by lies, spin and propaganda.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Trump sat for an interview with the DailyCaller, and putting aside politics, some of his remarks are straight up ludicrous. It's all well & good sneering and acting superior over 'echo chambers', but when a US President comes out with a mixed bag of conspiracy ranting & actual confusing waffle, it's hard not to mock.
    “The Republicans don’t win and that’s because of potentially illegal votes,” Trump complained. “When people get in line that have absolutely no right to vote and they go around in circles. Sometimes they go to their car, put on a different hat, put on a different shirt, come in and vote again. Nobody takes anything. It’s really a disgrace what’s going on.”

    “If you buy a box of cereal — you have a voter ID,” Trump continued. “They try to shame everybody by calling them racist, or calling them something, anything they can think of, when you say you want voter ID. But voter ID is a very important thing.”

    I mean to be fair, I eat Wheatabix so I dunno, maybe you do need a voter ID to buy corn flakes? Joking aside though - this is complete nonsense stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    ELM327 wrote: »
    What would Monica do then?

    Tbf, I was referring to Chelsea’s husband.

    But that’s also a good point.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    Has anybody considered that Trump maybe playing the long con for an insanity defence?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,217 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    I assume Monica would continue on her campaign to tackle bullying and harassment through social media.

    Maybe Melania should consider looking into that rather than getting people fired that she doesn't like.

    Talk about abuse of power!
    Would that include the 4 women that made allegations of sexual assault against Bill? Or is it just women that target GOP men that are believed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,755 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    ELM327 wrote: »
    Would that include the 4 women that made allegations of sexual assault against Bill? Or is it just women that target GOP men that are believed?

    What, you want Monica to investigate BC?

    BC was impeached over the Monica affair, Trump is celebrated and Kavanaugh was voted into the highest legal office in the land.

    I am fully ok with BC being held accountable, it has nothing at all to do with HC. According to Trump, HC should be judged because she stood by her husband, so then we should be hating Melania even more so because we know that Trump had affairs, it is not just allegations.

    The problem with that type of whataboutery, is that Trump has normally done and the same or worse and it is a reason given why HC couldn't be trusted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,375 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    Good Lord! We're now back to the 1990s. How did we get there from a discussion about the current incumbent of the WH?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    amandstu wrote: »
    Tittle tattle perhaps but is there a risk of the Pres' personal constitution taking a dive?

    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/14/politics/donald-trump-mood-pissed-white-house-intrigue/index.html


    "Some of his longtime confidants are worried for his health, believing he's gained weight and looks unwell."

    I thought that lately too. I think he looks (as if that's a reliable diagnostic criterion, I know...) unwell. Bloated and deflated at the same time if you get my drift. I'd say Ronnie Jackson would have to hire JK Rowling to help him write his medical assessment if he was around the White House these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,241 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    pixelburp wrote: »
    Trump sat for an interview with the DailyCaller, and putting aside politics, some of his remarks are straight up ludicrous.

    Possibly a more important excerpt from the interview:
    THE DAILY CALLER: Sure. Could you tell us where your thinking is currently on the attorney general position? I know you’re happy with Matthew Whitaker, do you have any names? Chris Christie —

    POTUS: Matthew Whitaker is a very respected man. He’s — and he’s, very importantly, he’s respected within DOJ. I heard he got a very good decision, I haven’t seen it. Kellyanne, did I hear that?

    WHITE HOUSE ADVISER KELLYANNE CONWAY: 20 pages.

    POTUS: A 20-page?

    THE DAILY CALLER: It just came out right before this, sir.

    POTUS: Well, I heard it was a very strong opinion. Uh, which is good. But [Whitaker] is just somebody that’s very respected.

    I knew him only as he pertained, you know, as he was with Jeff Sessions. And, you know, look, as far as I’m concerned this is an investigation that should have never been brought. It should have never been had.

    It’s something that should have never been brought. It’s an illegal investigation. And you know, it’s very interesting because when you talk about not Senate confirmed, well, Mueller’s not Senate confirmed.

    THE DAILY CALLER: Right.

    POTUS: He’s heading this whole big thing, he’s not Senate confirmed.

    So anyway, I have a lot of respect for Matt Whitaker, based primarily on reputation. And I think he’s really — I think a lot of people are starting to come out very much in favor of him during this period of time.

    Trump, of his own volition and unprompted, links Whitaker to the Mueller investigation. Asked about Whitaker, segues into talking about the Mueller investigation and how wrong it is.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    The Trump twitter machine is ramping up towards hysteria condition 5. Is Mueller breathing down his neck?

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1063042585802039296

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1063046973857718272

    The is all part of Trumps defense. He is constantly focusing on the 'no collusion' angle for a simple reason: Mueller won't find much in the way of actual collusion against Trump himself. However he will allege many shady financial dealings.

    Trump will then tweet "See, I told ye all... No Collusion... and because they had to justify their 2 year investigation and tens of millions spent, the angry, unhinged Democrats in Mueller's team have scrambled around for anything they could find, and come up with these old allegations to do with my finances... Sad!"

    So what appears to be unhinged is actually part of a bigger defence strategy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,366 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    I assume Monica would continue on her campaign to tackle bullying and harassment through social media.

    Maybe Melania should consider looking into that rather than getting people fired that she doesn't like.

    She does have her 'Be Best' campaign to combat cyberbullying. I'll never not chuckle at that name.

    It's also completely plagiarised, true-to-form


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,940 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Has anybody considered that Trump maybe playing the long con for an insanity defence?

    Not insanity (Most stable genius???) but I suspect he will use health issues to absolve himself from trial if he is looking like been charged at some point. Whenever that may be.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Trump's craziness today has me hoping for some indictments tomorrow. They've been imminent for too long. My money's on Stone and Credico but Mueller and the DOJ have a habit of blind-siding everyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    Trump's craziness today has me hoping for some indictments tomorrow. They've been imminent for too long. My money's on Stone and Credico but Mueller and the DOJ have a habit of blind-siding everyone.

    Too early for Stone. Possibly Corsi and/or Credico. Mueller needs one or both of these guys to get maximum leverage on Stone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar


    Just read today's tweet storm from Trump. They really are nothing more than paranoid and deluded ramblings. Saying that they are the envy of the world. HA!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,241 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    The Trump twitter machine is ramping up towards hysteria condition 5. Is Mueller breathing down his neck?

    It's so weird that he's now throwing it out there that Mueller isn't Senate approved (given the complaints about Whitaker not being Senate approved). Surely it's just a case that Mueller doesn't need to be Senate approved for his job, but Whitaker does. Are people honestly going to fall for that?

    I know it's just his usual whataboutery, but given there was no news on Mueller lately and Trump decides to go on a tear about him, it really does seem like something is about to come out and Trump is panicking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,375 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    TomOnBoard wrote: »
    The is all part of Trumps defense. He is constantly focusing on the 'no collusion' angle for a simple reason: Mueller won't find much in the way of actual collusion against Trump himself. However he will allege many shady financial dealings.

    Trump will then tweet "See, I told ye all... No Collusion... and because they had to justify their 2 year investigation and tens of millions spent, the angry, unhinged Democrats in Mueller's team have scrambled around for anything they could find, and come up with these old allegations to do with my finances... Sad!"

    So what appears to be unhinged is actually part of a bigger defence strategy.
    This has been a very long running investigation and it's highly unlikely that it spent that time picking up some fringe players and a few Russians. It seems inconceivable that Trump's son and son-in-law met with Russians and he didn't know about it. His call for the Russians to hack HC's emails and lo it was done is hardly coincidental. Stretches credibility beyond breaking point that it could be so.

    There's no doubt that Don Jr. and Kushner are going to be pulled in. The likelihood is that a few more fringe players will get lifted and then a whole raft at the same time. How many that will be has been speculated on for some time, but recent reports in The Observer say it will be dozens.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    TomOnBoard wrote: »
    Too early for Stone. Possibly Corsi and/or Credico. Mueller needs one or both of these guys to get maximum leverage on Stone.

    Maybe.

    Stone has been in his sights for a very long time and I would guess that he has all he needs on him. That doesn't mean that he's in a hurry to pull the trigger, especially if there are other considerations.

    Corsi and Credico are definitely very likely in the next set of arrests/indictments.

    If Stone IS picked up, it will certainly raise the temperature.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,362 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    So trump lied when he said that mueller isn't senate confirmed and yet is heading the investigation without confirmation from the senate. There is no requirement for a special counsel to be senate confirmed and also Robert mueller has been confirmed twice by the senate with being the FBI director and he was also confirmed unanimously both times.

    He also did not serve eight years under obama either. He served from January 2009 until 2013 so four years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,366 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Itssoeasy wrote: »

    He also did not serve eight years under obama either. He served from January 2009 until 2013 so four years.

    ...until 2013 when he was succeeded by James Comey, amazing that Trump forgot about Comey


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    8-10 wrote: »
    ...until 2013 when he was succeeded by James Comey, amazing that Trump forgot about Comey

    I'd say Trump wishes he really could forget the Comey ever existed...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,128 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    TomOnBoard wrote: »
    I'd say Trump wishes he really could forget the Comey ever existed...

    To be fair, Comey is one of the reasons Trump is president..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    everlast75 wrote: »
    To be fair, Comey is one of the reasons Trump is president..

    Agreed..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭jobbridge4life


    Just read today's tweet storm from Trump. They really are nothing more than paranoid and deluded ramblings. Saying that they are the envy of the world. HA!

    I'd believe there were mere paranoid and deluded rants if I didn't also suspect that these things are an attempts at the 'big lie'. Lie big, lie often.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,157 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    TomOnBoard wrote: »
    Agreed..

    And don't forget he then went and made fortunes selling his book to the resistance. That's magnificent grifting tbf.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭TomOnBoard


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    And don't forget he then went and made fortunes selling his book to the resistance. That's magnificent grifting tbf.

    Ridiculous statement to say that Comey swindled anyone by writing and selling a book about leadership, and how Trump is poor in that regard. Like, are all authors swindlers now, just because they write and sell a book?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,157 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    TomOnBoard wrote: »
    Ridiculous statement to say that Comey swindled anyone by writing and selling a book about leadership, and how Trump is poor in that regard. Like, are all authors swindlers now, just because they write and sell a book?

    His book was aimed at the resistance and was bought by people who only a few months previously loathed him for hurting Clinton regarding that election.

    He caused a lot of damage and then tried to fix his image by grifting for the left and it most certainly has worked. He is little different to guys like Cohen, peter strzok etc.
    " I hate Trump now, Give me Money"

    That's grifting personified and people keep falling for it, and nope that does not mean Trump is an acceptable president whatsoever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    His book was aimed at the resistance and was bought by people who only a few months previously loathed him for hurting Clinton regarding that election.

    He caused a lot of damage and then tried to fix his image by grifting for the left and it most certainly has worked. He is little different to guys like Cohen, peter strzok etc.
    " I hate Trump now, Give me Money"

    That's grifting personified and people keep falling for it, and nope that does not mean Trump is an acceptable president whatsoever.

    If anything he was such a stickler for rules that he tended to do as much as possible entirely by the book.


  • Registered Users Posts: 900 ✭✭✭Midlife


    DrumSteve wrote: »
    My brain melts when I imagine the reaction if Hilary pulled half the stuff he did... Imagine Hilary installed Chelsea on her staff never mind giving a bunch of jobs to her husband...

    Just imagine a woman standing up to be elected president with five children from three marraiges and a clear history of infedility.


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