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Captain Obvious

Call me Al wrote: »

A Yale classmate of Judge Kavanaugh's, Chad Ludington, has waded into the nomination debate with his observations of the judge's drinking behaviour as a Yale student by issuing a statement on what he saw.

He says Judge Kavanaugh wasn't telling the truth when he said he never drank excessively, frequently drank too much (and not just beer), and drank so much one night that he ended up in a fight with a friend who landed himself in jail.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/supreme-court-nominee-brett-kavanaugh-friend-yale-university-charles-chad-ludington-letter-released-2018-09-30/

But check out that GDP.

pixelburp

I'm sure those children smuggled into the concentration camps during the night - and let's be clear here, it's only semantics that prevents them from being called thus - really appreciate those North Korean love letters.

Curious how children denied education in the middle of the Texan desert is making America Great Again? Where does that feature in the GDP figures?

Of course it's easy to be condescending about 'successes' when you can refuse to talk about the human cost of things: no debate over those 'fake' dead Porto Ricans, the missing thousands of migrant children or indeed the ones relocated into camps during the night "...in order to avoid escape attempts". Geopolitics avoids the messiness of an imperfect domestic reality.

ct5amr2ig1nfhp

China's manufacturing index was below 48 when Trump took office and has risen steadily since then. It averaged below 50 in the last 4-5 years of the Obama administration. It has been trending upwards over the last two years, not downwards. Another "job well done" eh?

RIGOLO wrote: »

...Chinese manufacturing index is down ...

A lie. US 'Consumer Confidence' is at an 18 year high. It is not a record high.

Look at the University of Michigan 'Consumer Sentiment' index, which is widely reported, the record was set during Clintons' last year in office.

RIGOLO wrote: »

...Record US consumer confidence index...

RIGOLO

Keira Orange Store wrote: »

China's manufacturing index was below 48 when Trump took office and has risen steadily since then. It averaged below 50 in the last 4-5 years of the Obama administration. It has been trending upwards over the last two years, not downwards. Another "job well done" eh?



A lie. US 'Consumer Confidence' is at an 18 year high. It is not a record high.

Look at the University of Michigan 'Consumer Sentiment' index, which is widely reported, the record was set during Clintons' last year in office.

You need to get up to speed with todays news.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/01/beijing-will-act-on-slowdown-amid-us-china-trade-war-economist.html

China says its economy is slowing. Its central bank may be preparing to intervene

Over the weekend, a private survey showed growth in China's factory sector stalled after 15 months of expansion, with export orders falling the fastest in over two years, while an official survey confirmed a further manufacturing weakening.

Correction - Consumer confidence is near record highs , thanks for reminding us its near a record high not seen since 2000 . You got me , its not a record high, its near its record high.


And to think many economists had predicted a fall in Consumer Confidence. I guess those are the economists who the anti-Trumpers listen too, the ones who are getting the economic growth predictions wrong.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/consumer-confidence-spikes-to-its-best-level-since-2000-2018-9?utm_source=markets&utm_medium=ingest&r=US&IR=T

The Conference Board said its consumer confidence index increased to a reading of 138.4 this month from an upwardly revised 134.7 in August. Economists polled by Reuters had forecast the consumer index slipping to a reading of 132.0 this month

Trump administration is delivering on every level economically, the main stream media and anti-trumper leftist liberal economists are falling over themselves to pick a hole in their strategy, and all they are exposing is their own limited understanding of macro economics in this new era.

I suspect we will soon be seeing the start of 'revisionism' economic opinion pieces where economists will begrudgingly acknowledge the Trump administration achievements but probably lay credit elsewhere or put it down to luck.

Professor Moriarty

RIGOLO wrote: »

You need to get up to speed with todays news.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/01/beijing-will-act-on-slowdown-amid-us-china-trade-war-economist.html

China says its economy is slowing. Its central bank may be preparing to intervene




Correction - Consumer confidence is near record highs , thanks for reminding us its near a record high not seen since 2000 . You got me , its not a record high, its near its record high.


And to think many economists had predicted a fall in Consumer Confidence. I guess those are the economists who the anti-Trumpers listen too, the ones who are getting the economic growth predictions wrong.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/consumer-confidence-spikes-to-its-best-level-since-2000-2018-9?utm_source=markets&utm_medium=ingest&r=US&IR=T



Trump administration is delivering on every level economically, the main stream media and anti-trumper leftist liberal economists are falling over themselves to pick a hole in their strategy, and all they are exposing is their own limited understanding of macro economics in this new era.

I suspect we will soon be seeing the start of 'revisionism' economic opinion pieces where economists will begrudgingly acknowledge the Trump administration achievements but probably lay credit elsewhere or put it down to luck.

Apart from The Donald pissing all over climate change legislation because the experts are stoopid and 'Lah, Lah, Lah I'm not listening', there's this very unusual word that you might be interested in learning a bit about: DEFICIT

Leroy42

Have you nothing at all to say on how this GDP miracle has been achieved? What exactly do you think Trump has done? Was it the tax cut, because if it is then is hardly to be applauded as the upswing is nowhere close to what is required to balance the books.
Is it dropping of regulations, in which case please point out which ones and the effect they have had.
And lets be clear, doing nothing and just allowing things to continue as Obama had left them, would probably be seeing 3.2 to 3.5% GDP growth. Unless you can identify and attribute specific actions of Trump to the growth rate then all you are doing is stating a number.

StringerBell

Reminded of a quote this morning while browsing the thread.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

RIGOLO

Leroy42 wrote: »

Have you nothing at all to say on how this GDP miracle has been achieved? What exactly do you think Trump has done? Was it the tax cut, because if it is then is hardly to be applauded as the upswing is nowhere close to what is required to balance the books.
Is it dropping of regulations, in which case please point out which ones and the effect they have had.
And lets be clear, doing nothing and just allowing things to continue as Obama had left them, would probably be seeing 3.2 to 3.5% GDP growth. Unless you can identify and attribute specific actions of Trump to the growth rate then all you are doing is stating a number.

It couldnt be simpler..
Trump administration announces a New US-MEXICO-CANADA Trade deal annunced over night , and the futures jump 200 points.
It couldnt be more obvious the impact Trump administration is having, and thats just one example.

And whats with all the references to Obama, I thought they were outlawed here as whatabouttery, or is that only if a pro-Trump Administration poster references Obamas record its a bunch of whatabouttery...

The Trump Administration is a long term project, you dont turn around a 20 trillion dollar economy overnight.
They are on the right path, all positive indicators so far, tax cuts, and regulation reform included, and they have stated the next item on the list is reducing expenditure, where the Trump administration has already made in-roads but look to see them go after the big ticket entitlement reform after the mid-terms when they have a renewed mandate.

Long term, you gotta be thinking long term.

Professor Moriarty

RIGOLO wrote: »

It couldnt be simpler..
Trump administration announces a New US-MEXICO-CANADA Trade deal annunced over night , and the futures jump 200 points.
It couldnt be more obvious the impact Trump administration is having, and thats just one example.

And whats with all the references to Obama, I thought they were outlawed here as whatabouttery, or is that only if a pro-Trump Administration poster references Obamas record its a bunch of whatabouttery...

The Trump Administration is a long term project, you dont turn around a 20 trillion dollar economy overnight.
They are on the right path, all positive indicators so far, tax cuts, and regulation reform included, and they have stated the next item on the list is reducing expenditure, where the Trump administration has already made in-roads but look to see them go after the big ticket entitlement reform after the mid-terms when they have a renewed mandate.

Long term, you gotta be thinking long term.

Indeed. Screw future generations seems to be the long term thinking.

Captain Obvious

RIGOLO wrote: »

It couldnt be simpler..
Trump administration announces a New US-MEXICO-CANADA Trade deal annunced over night , and the futures jump 200 points.
It couldnt be more obvious the impact Trump administration is having, and thats just one example.

And whats with all the references to Obama, I thought they were outlawed here as whatabouttery, or is that only if a pro-Trump Administration poster references Obamas record its a bunch of whatabouttery...

The Trump Administration is a long term project, you dont turn around a 20 trillion dollar economy overnight.
They are on the right path, all positive indicators so far, tax cuts, and regulation reform included, and they have stated the next item on the list is reducing expenditure, where the Trump administration has already made in-roads but look to see them go after the big ticket entitlement reform after the mid-terms when they have a renewed mandate.

Long term, you gotta be thinking long term.

Is spiralling debt not a bad thing long term? Where do you see the reductions in expenditure coming from?

duploelabs

RIGOLO wrote: »

It couldnt be simpler..
Trump administration announces a New US-MEXICO-CANADA Trade deal annunced over night , and the futures jump 200 points.
It couldnt be more obvious the impact Trump administration is having, and thats just one example.

And whats with all the references to Obama, I thought they were outlawed here as whatabouttery, or is that only if a pro-Trump Administration poster references Obamas record its a bunch of whatabouttery...

The Trump Administration is a long term project, you dont turn around a 20 trillion dollar economy overnight.
They are on the right path, all positive indicators so far, tax cuts, and regulation reform included, and they have stated the next item on the list is reducing expenditure, where the Trump administration has already made in-roads but look to see them go after the big ticket entitlement reform after the mid-terms when they have a renewed mandate.

Long term, you gotta be thinking long term.

Deficit rose by a third in a year
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-13/u-s-budget-deficit-swells-to-898-billion-topping-forecast

Rose, not reduced. How is that fiscal responsibility?

listermint

Quite a nice summation here of the whole Kavanaugh week by John Oliver.

And asking the real question, - Why Kavanaugh

ct5amr2ig1nfhp

EU, China, Australia... just a few markets where consumer confidence is near record highs. Is that all thanks to Trump also? :rolleyes:

Trumps administration is certainly delivering on the US deficit. It's ballooning. Well done Trump!

The story you link to states the Chinese economy has 'stalled' after 26 months of growth. Below 50 means the economy is contracting, above 50 the economy is expanding. Currently stands at 50.

RIGOLO wrote: »

You need to get up to speed with todays news.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/01/beijing-will-act-on-slowdown-amid-us-china-trade-war-economist.html

China says its economy is slowing. Its central bank may be preparing to intervene




Correction - Consumer confidence is near record highs , thanks for reminding us its near a record high not seen since 2000 . You got me , its not a record high, its near its record high.


And to think many economists had predicted a fall in Consumer Confidence. I guess those are the economists who the anti-Trumpers listen too, the ones who are getting the economic growth predictions wrong.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/consumer-confidence-spikes-to-its-best-level-since-2000-2018-9?utm_source=markets&utm_medium=ingest&r=US&IR=T



Trump administration is delivering on every level economically, the main stream media and anti-trumper leftist liberal economists are falling over themselves to pick a hole in their strategy, and all they are exposing is their own limited understanding of macro economics in this new era.

I suspect we will soon be seeing the start of 'revisionism' economic opinion pieces where economists will begrudgingly acknowledge the Trump administration achievements but probably lay credit elsewhere or put it down to luck.

mattser

listermint wrote: »

Quite a nice summation here of the whole Kavanaugh week by John Oliver.

And asking the real question, - Why Kavanaugh

Pot calling the kettle black to be honest. Oliver comes across as a mouth, crude and no class. Not to be taken seriously.

Pelvis

mattser wrote: »

Pot calling the kettle black to be honest. Oliver comes across as a mouth, crude and no class. Not to be taken seriously.

lol.

Last Week Tonight is one of the finest things on TV, I look forward to it every week.

jobbridge4life

mattser wrote: »

Pot calling the kettle black to be honest. Oliver comes across as a mouth, crude and no class. Not to be taken seriously.

Well thank goodness he isn't going to be on the SCOTUS then...

Rhineshark

mattser wrote: »

Pot calling the kettle black to be honest. Oliver comes across as a mouth, crude and no class. Not to be taken seriously.

I have to absolutely disagree with you on that point.

He can be crude in his language but he is actually a very intelligent and articulate man with a lot to say that is worth hearing. He also has the guts to mostly focus on things that don't get a lot of attention - sometimes, as above, he cant help himself though. Oliver's semi-outsider's view within the US is actually a very valuable one to have amongst the late night hosts (same for Noah in that regard).

RIGOLO

Keira Orange Store wrote: »

EU, China, Australia... just a few markets where consumer confidence is near record highs. Is that all thanks to Trump also? :rolleyes:

Trumps administration is certainly delivering on the US deficit. It's ballooning. Well done Trump!

The story you link to states the Chinese economy has 'stalled' after 26 months of growth. Below 50 means the economy is contracting, above 50 the economy is expanding. Currently stands at 50.

If you think Chinese economy is not being impacted by Trump Administration trade positions and tariffs then you havent been following the yuan fx rate for the last 12 months.
I know Id prefer to be holding dollars.

Captain Obvious

RIGOLO wrote: »

If you think Chinese economy is not being impacted by Trump Administration trade positions and tariffs then you havent been following the yuan fx rate for the last 12 months.
I know Id prefer to be holding dollars.

I just Googled the yuan. It is currently worth 0.13 euro. This time last year it was worth 0.13 euro. It is currently worth 0.15 dollar. This time last year it was worth 0.15 dollar.

josip

Captain Obvious wrote: »

I just Googled the yuan. It is currently worth 0.13 euro. This time last year it was worth 0.13 euro. It is currently worth 0.15 dollar. This time last year it was worth 0.15 dollar.

The obvious question here captain is why did you bother googling the Yuan value?
It's like playing handball against a haystack as Joe Higgins said.

Walter Bishop

http://maristpoll.marist.edu/npr-pbs-newshour-marist-poll-national-survey-results-and-analysis/#sthash.knKhB15j.u8jikk8P.dpbs

Republicans (54%) are the only group among whom a majority believes Kavanaugh should be confirmed even if the accusations prove to be true although 32% of GOP voters disagree.

Good to see that a majority of GOPers now think Kavanaugh should get a lifetime appointment to the highest judicial court in the land even if he is a rapist...

The mind blowing thing here is that there is a list of candidates who would all doubtless be as conservative as Kavanaugh or thereabouts, and most of them are probably not alleged rapists, why not just pick one of them?

Captain Obvious

The FBI investigation is a complete farce by the looks of it. We'll see how true Flake is to his "due process" demand.

everlast75

Walter Bishop wrote: »

http://maristpoll.marist.edu/npr-pbs-newshour-marist-poll-national-survey-results-and-analysis/#sthash.knKhB15j.u8jikk8P.dpbs



Good to see that a majority of GOPers now think Kavanaugh should get a lifetime appointment to the highest judicial court in the land even if he is a rapist...

The mind blowing thing here is that there is a list of candidates who would all doubtless be as conservative as Kavanaugh or thereabouts, and most of them are probably not alleged rapists, why not just pick one of them?

Good question.

A number of theories

1) Trump picked him because of his stance on indicting siting presidents
2) Trump also picked him because of his stance on abortion and that would fulfil one of his pre-election promises
3) He is a partisan hack of a judge who will go after Democrats when he can

Captain Obvious

Walter Bishop wrote: »

http://maristpoll.marist.edu/npr-pbs-newshour-marist-poll-national-survey-results-and-analysis/#sthash.knKhB15j.u8jikk8P.dpbs



Good to see that a majority of GOPers now think Kavanaugh should get a lifetime appointment to the highest judicial court in the land even if he is a rapist...

The mind blowing thing here is that there is a list of candidates who would all doubtless be as conservative as Kavanaugh or thereabouts, and most of them are probably not alleged rapists, why not just pick one of them?

The October SC docket has a case about whether a federal pardon can also protect from state charges. This is pretty much a must win case as far as Trump is concerned as he and his allies will be looking at numerous state based charges. Kavanaugh was probably the only one he could be sure would go his way on it.

ct5amr2ig1nfhp

As a matter fact, I do indeed follow the CHY and other major currencies - very closely thanks. You see, I have a very, very, large brain.

The USD has weakened against the CHY in 2018 (up to Sep 20th) when compared to 2017.

There is a lot of history between USD/CHY fx rates. You should take the time read about their history.

Fun fact for you RIGOLO. The Yuan has risen 30+ percent against the dollar since the CHY currency policy changes in 2005. You keep holding those dollars sir, nice and tight.

RIGOLO wrote: »

If you think Chinese economy is not being impacted by Trump Administration trade positions and tariffs then you havent been following the yuan fx rate for the last 12 months.
I know Id prefer to be holding dollars.

Nermal

Leroy42 wrote: »

many have used the line that it probably happened but it wasn't Brett. Surely the GOP, Kavanaugh etc would want to be doing all they can to help this clearly effected woman to find closure. To track down what happened and help her deal with it.

Um... Why on earth would that be the responsibility of the GOP or Kavanaugh? Isn’t that the function of the police? She can make a complaint to the police and have the same rights as any other citizen making a similar allegation.

Leroy42

Nermal wrote: »

Um... Why on earth would that be the responsibility of the GOP or Kavanaugh? Isn’t that the function of the police? She can make a complaint to the police and have the same rights as any other citizen making a similar allegation.

I don't know, human compassion and understanding.

Just because they don't have to do it, doesn't mean they can't offer to help.

RIGOLO

Captain Obvious wrote: »

I just Googled the yuan. It is currently worth 0.13 euro. This time last year it was worth 0.13 euro. It is currently worth 0.15 dollar. This time last year it was worth 0.15 dollar.

Like I said you havent been tracking it for 12 months, taking the two end points is telling you nothing about what happened in the interim.

And if you think the fact the numbers are the same is a good sign I suspect you dont understand FX, nor the affect rises in US interest rates have had on the dollar strength, or how Trumps tariffs have forced the Chinese govt to let the yuan weaken to offset the impact of these tariffs. The Yuan is not a free market currency its a policy currency under rigid government control , you could start by Googling Bejing CCF 'counter cyclical factor ' to learn a bit more, or else chose to not learn a bit more and simply look at two numbers 12 months apart as you have.

looksee

sniffle, and all those girlfriends he remembers so fondly were in alphabetical order.

pixelburp

Captain Obvious wrote: »

The FBI investigation is a complete farce by the looks of it. We'll see how true Flake is to his "due process" demand.

Oh this whole FBI investigation - and that term should be used lightly - is nothing more than a whitewash so Flake can come back in a week and go "look, see, it's all good. My conscience is clear" and vote in favour of Kavaunagh. On 60 Minutes, he openly admitted he wouldn't have called for the investigation were he still up for re-election.

John Oliver is right: as shown, there were 20+ other conservative judges recommended, and any number of them could have fulfilled the same role the GOP are looking for - without the uncomfortable spectre of sexual assault, and potential perjury charges Kavaunagh still faces.

Again it needs to be said: Neil Gorsuch sailed through nomination, despite being as conservative and favourable to the GOP.