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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 5) *Read Mod Note in Post 1*

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  • #5052
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Inviere wrote: »
    What’s Joe Duffy up to these days? He seemed to be climbing the division until he got starched there in his most recent fight

    He does be on the radio there in the afternoons..Can't imagine he'd be great in a fight..unless he patronized them into submission..


  • #5053
    WanderlustIre
    Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭WanderlustIre


    Inviere wrote: »
    What’s Joe Duffy up to these days? He seemed to be climbing the division until he got starched there in his most recent fight

    After 217 he hasn’t been seen hasn’t he?


  • #5054
    Autecher
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Autecher


    Inviere wrote: »
    What’s Joe Duffy up to these days? He seemed to be climbing the division until he got starched there in his most recent fight
    I just googled him, he had shoulder surgery in February and hopes to be back late 2018/early2019. He is also now represented by Khabib's manager which I had no idea about. I went on Gunnar's twitter and he say's he's "almost ready" which may be an indicator of an announcement soon. I hope it is.


  • #5055
    WanderlustIre
    Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭WanderlustIre


    cliggg wrote: »
    I just googled him, he had shoulder surgery in February and hopes to be back late 2018/early2019. He is also now represented by Khabib's manager which I had no idea about. I went on Gunnar's twitter and he say's he's "almost ready" which may be an indicator of an announcement soon. I hope it is.

    I don’t get excited for Gunni. I tend to be bored watching him. Maia and Gunni was snoozetown


  • #5056
    Autecher
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Autecher


    WanderlustIre wrote: »
    I don’t get excited for Gunni. I tend to be bored watching him. Maia and Gunni was snoozetown
    I enjoyed that fight myself, from my hazy memory I don't remember it being as one sided as people seem to think it was. I love watching Gunni fight.


  • #5057
    WanderlustIre
    Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭WanderlustIre


    cliggg wrote: »
    I enjoyed that fight myself, from my hazy memory I don't remember it being as one sided as people seem to think it was. I love watching Gunni fight.

    REally hahah naw I thought both ruled each other out style wise was a bore for me. I usually tend to love a striker with a ground artist. 2 BJJ can be very slow to progress and cook


  • #5058
    dave1982
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,604 ✭✭✭dave1982


    I thought that was the best gunni fight tbh


  • #5059
    WanderlustIre
    Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭WanderlustIre


    dave1982 wrote: »
    I thought that was the best gunni fight tbh

    In what sense? I enjoyed the Jouban fight. Gunni 2nd round sub


  • #5060
    dave1982
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,604 ✭✭✭dave1982


    Two great submision artists both going for subs and the other knowing exactly what the was trying to do before they done it.

    I think the days of ground fighter v striker are gone, fighters are too well rounded now.... like liddel sobral for instance


  • #5061
    dulux99
    Registered Users Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭dulux99


    I love Gunni. One of my favourites. Lovely striking, attacking BJJ, interesting personality, always looks to finish at every moment of the fight.


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  • #5062
    Tazzimus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,935 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    cliggg wrote: »
    I enjoyed that fight myself, from my hazy memory I don't remember it being as one sided as people seem to think it was. I love watching Gunni fight.
    That fight was a very, very good black belt, against Damian Maia.
    It was fairly one sided, Maia had plenty of control throughout the whole fight.


  • #5063
    WanderlustIre
    Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭WanderlustIre


    dave1982 wrote: »
    Two great submision artists both going for subs and the other knowing exactly what the was trying to do before they done it.

    I think the days of ground fighter v striker are gone, fighters are too well rounded now.... like liddel sobral for instance

    Not all fighters are rounded though Dave. A lot struggle to accommodate certain styles when moulded look at Khabib.


  • #5064
    darced
    Registered Users Posts: 7,056 ✭✭✭darced


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  • #5065
    Autecher
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Autecher


    Tazzimus wrote: »
    That fight was a very, very good black belt, against Damian Maia.
    It was fairly one sided, Maia had plenty of control throughout the whole fight.
    Yeah I must give it a watch again soon to refresh my memory but I remember it as Maia getting into great positions for finishes but Gunni reversing or blocking for the whole 3 rounds.


  • #5066
    Autecher
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Autecher


    darced wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.
    Really? Jaysus, feckin' goldfish memory I have so! :eek:


  • #5067
    DrumSteve
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Yeah Gunni got badly schooled in that fight. Maia was totally in control the whole way through it and Gunni was a bloody mess by the end of it.


  • #5068
    monty_python
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,683 ✭✭✭monty_python


    Any announcements on dates for the pressers yet??


  • #5069
    seanboylan87
    Registered Users Posts: 14 ✭seanboylan87


    As someone who has been watching UFC only since McGregor shot to fame, excuse my ignorance but if Khabib is so strong at wrestling is there not a fair chance that if and when he mounts McGregor he'll look to choke him out ASAP as he knows McGregor's threat and there's a fair chance that he will be able to do this as Nate Diaz was and Chad Mendes wasn't a million miles away from doing so too? Both less heralded wrestlers than Khabib.


  • #5070
    EagererBeaver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,532 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Khabib's style is to maul you on the ground through relentless pressure, he doesn't generally go for submissions unless they're right there.

    Mendes is a multiple All American wrestler and arguably made his biggest ever mistake going for the choke on McGregor when he'd been absolutely dominating him on the ground.

    Nate choked him out because McGregor gave it up to him pretty handily when he gave him his back. McGregor was so gassed at that stage he knew he had nothing left and it was better to give up the choke than get pounded on even more.

    If a similar chance exists and Khabib sees a choke or an armbar presented to him, he'll take it, but he'll not yet and engineer it if it risks him taking shots


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  • #5071
    Tazzimus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,935 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    cliggg wrote: »
    Yeah I must give it a watch again soon to refresh my memory but I remember it as Maia getting into great positions for finishes but Gunni reversing or blocking for the whole 3 rounds.
    You're remembering a different fight so :) Maia made him look like an amateur, which is a testament to just how good Maia actually is.


  • #5072
    WanderlustIre
    Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭WanderlustIre


    seanboylan87 wrote: »
    As someone who has been watching UFC only since McGregor shot to fame, excuse my ignorance but if Khabib is so strong at wrestling is there not a fair chance that if and when he mounts McGregor he'll look to choke him out ASAP as he knows McGregor's threat and there's a fair chance that he will be able to do this as Nate Diaz was and Chad Mendes wasn't a million miles away from doing so too? Both less heralded wrestlers than Khabib.

    Khabibs weakness will be exploited by Conor, as will Conor's weakness by Khabib they are so polar opposites that it will be an explosion. Khabib either goes early from a big left hand or Conor gets brought down and hurt for a prolonged period or submitted quickly. It will be a fight not to be missed. I am not a Conor fan so hoping khabib brings his A game but either way I'll be sure this is gonna be a dinner.


  • #5073
    dulux99
    Registered Users Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭dulux99


    Maia attacked well and Gunni defended well, but Maia was in control throughout. Great offensive and defensive BJJ was on show, that was Maia at his best and he'd have submitted most welterweights in the positions he got into. Two black belts going at it, one black belt a notch above the other though.


  • #5074
    WanderlustIre
    Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭WanderlustIre


    dulux99 wrote: »
    Maia attacked well and Gunni defended well, but Maia was in control throughout. Great offensive and defensive BJJ was on show, that was Maia at his best and he'd have submitted most welterweights in the positions he got into. Two black belts going at it, one black belt a notch above the other though.

    Damian considered a veteran for a reason


  • #5075
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,601 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    WanderlustIre wrote: »
    https://youtu.be/Owsors1j-HE
    Thanks. That's the time as talking about.

    Still waiting for answer for weirdness btw
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=107803863&postcount=5018


  • #5076
    Eircom_Sucks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,193 ✭✭✭Eircom_Sucks


    Hearing all bs about mendes and nate

    First off , conor’s knee was fooked pretty much in the lead up to the fight , even before aldo pulled out conor has issues , this would have played havoc with his game plan cause he was expecting aldo , have we seen conor taken down before mendes or since ? No

    Nate rocked him and rocked him again and he was gassed carrying 25lbs more than usual
    , he didn’t envisage nate taking the shots , but he did and rocked conor and he was gassed and went for the take down , other than that conor in his 9 previous fights hasnt been taken down

    Yes khabib is a monster at 26-0 but 15 were previous ufc and nobody has a clue who they were so could be padded , not doubting his takedowns at all , but i reckon once khabib feels that left his game plan will change , as dan hardy said , khabib only has one way and thats forward , remember brimmage ( yes he’s no khabib ) but he came at conor and got schooled with angles and uppercuts , expect something similar


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  • #5077
    WanderlustIre
    Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭WanderlustIre


    Mellor wrote: »
    I genuinely don't know how to reply to this. What exactly have I said that has offended you?
    A fighter's first time in the 4th and 5th round is not the time to practise his weaknesses. Do you really think pointing that out makes me biased? I find that odd, especially since you said you train yourself.

    I never said it was practice time?


  • #5078
    Tazzimus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,935 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    Eircom_Sucks wrote: »
    Nate rocked him and rocked him again and he was gassed carrying 25lbs more than usual
    , he didn’t envisage nate taking the shots , but he did and rocked conor and he was gassed and went for the take down , other than that conor in his 9 previous fights hasnt been taken down

    Just on this:
    Conor was probably at his normal weight for that fight, he wasn't carrying 25lbs more than usual, he doesn't walk around at 145.

    He gassed because he threw bombs constantly in the first round and Nate took them. Throwing that hard, plus a few other bits with it, for 5 minutes will tire you fast


  • #5079
    Autecher
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Autecher


    Tazzimus wrote: »
    Just on this:
    Conor was probably at his normal weight for that fight, he wasn't carrying 25lbs more than usual, he doesn't walk around at 145.

    He gassed because he threw bombs constantly in the first round and Nate took them. Throwing that hard, plus a few other bits with it, for 5 minutes will tire you fast
    It was the same in the Holloway fight, Conor threw so may punches and kicks he nearly gassed himself out. Coming out to start the second round I could see it, and it was before he hurt his leg.


  • #5080
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,601 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    WanderlustIre wrote: »
    I never said it was practice time?

    I was refering to the quoted post. If I have to link to the source, here you go?
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=107801230&postcount=4970

    How was I being biased? And what was with the wierd outburst?
    Was genuinely confused tbh.


  • #5081
    fitzparker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭fitzparker


    I think the UFC will play it safe with this card and just leave main event as the big draw.

    With Conor probably getting close to 10m flat plus PPV I dont think they want to put too many big stars on-that command a high enough fee.

    Remember they have been waiting for this cash flow for nearly 2 years they need to make as much as possible before he goes off again for another year

    If you think about the UFC 200 card then UFC 202 a few months later,
    UFC were smart to drop Conor from 200 when they knew it will sell without him, so add to 202 and make 2 big selling PPV.

    It will be the same with this, 1.5-2m PPV for 229 and stack the New york card and try get close to 1m


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  • #5082
    Autecher
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Autecher


    fitzparker wrote: »
    I think the UFC will play it safe with this card and just leave main event as the big draw.

    With Conor probably getting close to 10m flat plus PPV I dont think they want to put too many big stars on-that command a high enough fee.

    Remember they have been waiting for this cash flow for nearly 2 years they need to make as much as possible before he goes off again for another year

    If you think about the UFC 200 card then UFC 202 a few months later,
    UFC were smart to drop Conor from 200 when they knew it will sell without him, so add to 202 and make 2 big selling PPV.

    It will be the same with this, 1.5-2m PPV for 229 and stack the New york card and try get close to 1m
    I'm also seeing rumours of GSP fighting at 231 in Canada. If that were to happen then they could have 4 big buyrates in a row presuming they're end of year card sells big like it almost always does.


  • #5083
    WanderlustIre
    Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭WanderlustIre


    Mellor wrote: »
    I was refering to the quoted post. If I have to link to the source, here you go?
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=107801230&postcount=4970

    How was I being biased? And what was with the wierd outburst?
    Was genuinely confused tbh.
    Get over it. Sin é


  • #5084
    Tazzimus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,935 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    Bluestone100 wrote: »
    He also had a chest infection apparently, that would have a huge effect on his endurance.
    Even without the chest infection he would have been bolloxed by the end of the first. He admitted himself to throwing full power shots constantly trying to put Nate down.
    That kind of output cannot be maintained, which we seen in round two.


  • #5085
    EagererBeaver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,532 ✭✭✭EagererBeaver


    Tazzimus wrote: »
    Bluestone100 wrote: »
    He also had a chest infection apparently, that would have a huge effect on his endurance.
    Even without the chest infection he would have been bolloxed by the end of the first. He admitted himself to throwing full power shots constantly trying to put Nate down.
    That kind of output cannot be maintained, which we seen in round two.

    And in fight two, although he had learned how to cope with it by then.


  • #5086
    Tazzimus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,935 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    EagererBeaver wrote: »
    And in fight two, although he had learned how to cope with it by then.
    Yeah, his style is not made for 5 rounds.
    He has a high energy output style so it'll wear you down pretty quick.

    Could also be a mental thing causing a big adrenaline dump or that, if people can walk him down maybe he starts to panic a bit.


  • #5087
    billybonkers
    Registered Users Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    Bluestone100 wrote: »
    He also had a chest infection apparently, that would have a huge effect on his endurance.

    Haven't heard that before


  • #5088
    Autecher
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Autecher


    If it's the first Diaz fight ye are talking about then yeah he had a staph infection 2 weeks before it. I do wonder if he was somewhat relieved to not have to cut weight for the fight given that. Maybe that's why he suggested the fight be at 170?


  • #5089
    WanderlustIre
    Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭WanderlustIre


    Tazzimus wrote: »
    Yeah, his style is not made for 5 rounds.
    He has a high energy output style so it'll wear you down pretty quick.

    Could also be a mental thing causing a big adrenaline dump or that, if people can walk him down maybe he starts to panic a bit.

    That will need to change if true S&C have a lot to answer for if he can't hold 5 champ rounds at tempo


  • #5090
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,601 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    WanderlustIre wrote: »
    Get over it. Sin é
    Not to worry bud. I was confused not bothered.
    But as a tip, don't talk about what always happens on the forum when your account is only a week old. ;) makes the rereg obvious.


  • #5091
    WanderlustIre
    Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭WanderlustIre


    Mellor wrote: »
    Not to worry bud. I was confused not bothered.
    But as a tip, don't talk about what always happens on the forum when your account is only a week old. ;) makes the rereg obvious.

    Rereg? Why since when could you not view this without being a member?


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  • #5092
    WanderlustIre
    Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭WanderlustIre


    Mellor wrote: »
    Not to worry bud. I was confused not bothered.
    But as a tip, don't talk about what always happens on the forum when your account is only a week old. ;) makes the rereg obvious.

    And a week old. I'm here a month but don't let facts get in the way.


  • #5093
    Axwell
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Axwell


    Lads NO discussion about illegal streaming


  • #5094
    Tazzimus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,935 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    WanderlustIre wrote: »
    That will need to change if true S&C have a lot to answer for if he can't hold 5 champ rounds at tempo
    Not really.
    Some styles are just not made for endurance.
    He's a twitchy, reactive fighter, that takes a fair chunk of energy to be that alert and active.
    I reckon most people would struggle to keep that up for five rounds


  • #5095
    WanderlustIre
    Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭WanderlustIre


    Tazzimus wrote: »
    Not really.
    Some styles are just not made for endurance.
    He's a twitchy, reactive fighter, that takes a fair chunk of energy to be that alert and active.
    I reckon most people would struggle to keep that up for five rounds

    But to achieve what Conor wants he will need to be responsive rather then reactive. Repsonsive fighters repsonde to urging from corner, reactive can implode and be scarce when going gets tough. Maybe that's ****e talk but that's my Outlook


  • #5096
    dulux99
    Registered Users Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭dulux99


    Firas Zahabi had a great segment on Joe Rogan's podcast about why he feel McGregor has endurance issues. Can't link it at the moment but it's definitely worth a look on YouTube if you haven't seen it.


  • #5097
    hewhoscares
    Registered Users Posts: 318 ✭✭hewhoscares


    Was it the 3rd round in Diaz 2 where he seemed gassed out again but managed to get a second wind?

    His TKD defence against Eddie was excellent even if he was shook.

    The Chad fight Conors power still carried after being taken and kept down a fair bit - though full camp Mendes and all that


  • #5098
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    hewhoscares wrote: »
    Was it the 3rd round in Diaz 2 where he seemed gassed out again but managed to get a second wind?

    His TKD defence against Eddie was excellent even if he was shook.

    The Chad fight Conors power still carried after being taken and kept down a fair bit - though full camp Mendes and all that

    Don't know whether he gassed or decided to take it off but yeah he was poor in the third (although he was still throwing if I remember right) and came back strong in the forth.


  • #5099
    hewhoscares
    Registered Users Posts: 318 ✭✭hewhoscares


    dulux99 wrote: »
    Firas Zahabi had a great segment on Joe Rogan's podcast about why he feel McGregor has endurance issues. Can't link it at the moment but it's definitely worth a look on YouTube if you haven't seen it.

    Is it fast twitch muscle fibres thing? Like Rumble Johnson basically just their make up. All the endurance training in the world and he'll still suffer from it.

    My own personal crackpot theory is about his lack of roadwork after the knee injury- with long distance swimming, rowing and cycling he's not carrying his own bodyweight so doesn't bolster cardio the same


  • #5100
    JoeyJJ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,663 ✭✭✭JoeyJJ


    Firas Zahab, not the joe rogan discussion however a little bit here

    https://youtu.be/VBQfgrRueBo


    Here is the Joe Rogan part
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZStCNrGuYFc


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  • #5101
    Outlaw Pete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete


    Cool old footage of Khabib.


    https://twitter.com/lthomasnews/status/1030465694989737985


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