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Maritime News Thread

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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    This is a great read regarding the naval chaos in the Red Sea.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,523 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    An unusual spot for 4 ships (and possibly a 5th), all destined for Dublin Port, to anchor? What's wrong with the usual anchorage on the south side of Dublin Bay?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,381 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    Maybe the weather, you don't want to anchor where you might be quickly blown towards land if something goes wrong. Or just a more sheltered spot for this weather




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,523 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Mmmm.... maybe.

    But I've spent a lot of time over the years in Dublin Bay, and I've seen ships at anchor in the official anchorage in all sorts of weather (way worse than what we're having today/this week).

    And I don't ever recall seeing ships at anchor off Bray. I don't think you'd get much more shelter there in the current winds than you would on the official anchorage.

    Anyway, it just struck me as strange.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,721 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Do ships have to pay a fee to anchor in the Dublin Bay anchorage?

    Im guessing yes as otherwise why does the W.B. Yeats loiter just off Lambay Island on its off days instead of just going to the anchorage for the few hours it needs to vacate the berth in Dublin for the other Irish Ferries ships…

    so maybe it’s so save a few quid for the owners?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,523 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    That might have something to do with it.

    But a bunch of them at anchor off Bray is something I've never seen before - and I do remember one ship on the anchorage for months on end because the company had gone bankrupt, or some such story - the sailors were effectively prisoners on board.

    I'm sure there's a perfectly logical explanation for it, but I'd love to know for sure!

    ETA - there's another two that haven't anchored, but one is doing laps just north of Wicklow, and the other one has been hanging around and has just been across to Wales and back.

    All waiting for the lads in Dublin Port to finish the Christmas dinner?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,100 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    I live in Greystones and there are ships anchored off Bray Head from time to time, sometimes for several days. Here's a pic from today

    I don't see how they could enforce a fee for anchoring in Dublin Bay though, surely if you're outside the harbour you can drop anchor where you like (provided you're not in a shipping lane)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 643 ✭✭✭Yakov P. Golyadkin


    There's currently 7 vessels anchored between Killiney and Greystones, with another that has spent the best part of the last 24 hours sailing up and down the Wicklow/Dublin coastline.

    Dublin port boundaries extend from Howth across to Dalkey island (not in a straight line), I would imagine anyone anchoring within the boundary would be required to pay fees, but am open to correction.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,721 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    That was my train of thought too…. The limit of DPC is a series of lines from the Bailey - North Burford - South Burford - Dalkey Island, so anyone using the anchorage would most likely have to pay,.. so those that elect to stay outside have obviously weighed up the cost of DPC anchorage against the fuel cost to just tinker up and down the coast, or go the ultimate cost saving route and anchor outside DPC area, which is obviously less sheltered.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭g0g


    Never remember boats anchoring off Bray while growing up. Seems to just be a new thing in recent years. Here's a pic of the 7 visible from the prom today.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,205 ✭✭✭scotchy



    Is ships anchoring in Dublin bay not a relatively recent thing too? The sight of 3 or 4 ships anchored in sight of Dun Laoghaire pier is something that has only started in the last 10 or so years, maybe a bit longer from my memory.

    I remember sailing into Athens on a ferry years ago being amazed at how many ships were at anchor there, and thinking you would never see a ship at anchor in Dublin bay.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Weather bound vessels sheltering inside the pilotage district and not proceeding to the Quays or Docks of Dublin or Dun Laoghaire:

    50% of pilotage rates

    Costs money to hang out there "Waiting On Weather".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,407 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    Seems to be a backlash against LNG powerered ships because of the emissions, it had been hailed as the future, some new container ships also fitted out with engines running on it.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,066 ✭✭✭✭neris


    The green cult won't be happy till we're back in caves with no farting cows to eat or anything to transport ourselves around in. Unfortunately for the green cult the only reliable sources of long serving fuel sources are fossil fuels



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,407 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    Cranes knocked out by containership in Evyap, Turkey...




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,205 ✭✭✭scotchy


    💙 💛 💙 💛 💙 💛



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,149 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH




  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,149 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Appears to be ship lost power/steerage and ploughed straight into bridge support pier.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,792 ✭✭✭Bogwoppit


    There were 2 pilots on board but apparently lost power

    Chartered by Maersk.



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,149 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Yip....saw a video which shows two separate power failures on the ship (at least the ship goes completely dark twice) immediately before the collision. When power restored second time you can see thick smoke from the funnel - obviously engine full power ahead to try for quick turn (or full power in reverse), but, to no avail. Not much pilots or captain can do in a power failure situation!

    Looking at ariel pictures of the bridge, pre collapse, the absence of protection/dolphins to the main support piers is pretty shocking.

    I know all good to say in hindsight, but you would have to assume it reasonably foreseeable that someday a support pier to a bridge like that, given it's on route to very busy port, will get hit by a ship.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,066 ✭✭✭✭neris


    See someone already has a picture up on the ships profile on marine traffic with a span of bridge across her



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Fun times for the Stena crew and passengers.

    Stena Line passengers travelling to Belfast faced a long delay following a security alert on Easter Monday.

    The vessel was preparing to depart Cairnryan when a “malicious call” was made onboard the ferry at around 11pm.

    As a result, all travellers were forced to disembark the vessel to allow police to conduct searches.


    Police Scotland spokesperson said officers “responded to what is now believed to be a malicious call on board a vessel at Cairnryan Ferry Terminal, Stranraer.

    "The vessel was evacuated as a precaution.

    "Officers conducted searches and no suspicious items were found.

    “Enquiries are ongoing to establish the full circumstances."

    Stena Line confirmed the 11.30pm sailing to Belfast was delayed for around three and a half hours due to the security scare.

    “Stena Superfast VII departed Cairnryan at 03:00hrs on Tues April 2 once cleared to do so.

    "Normal service has resumed on the route this morning.

    “Passenger and crew safety is always Stena Line’s number one priority, the company would like to apologise to customers for the delay and any inconvenience caused.”

    https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/stena-line-passengers-travelling-to-belfast-forced-to-evacuate-due-to-security-alert/a850806987.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,146 ✭✭✭✭josip




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 864 ✭✭✭Boardnashea


    The article says the regulation came into force on 1/7/24 so how are they fined on 18/6/24, or am I missing something?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,297 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    In read it as banned in Norwegian waters since 2022 and the rest of the Arctic waters from 1/7/24 .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,146 ✭✭✭✭josip


    I'm not a maritime lawyer (thankfully) but other sites say they were fined for "carrying heavy fuel oil" breaching regulations that have been in place since 2022.

    https://www.biofuelsdigest.com/bdigest/arctic-breach-irish-cargo-ship-fined-nok-1-million-for-hfo-violation/

    "Starting July 1, 2024, the MARPOL convention’s Regulation 43A will ban the use and carriage of heavy fuel oils in Arctic waters". So maybe the Arklow wind was carrying, not using. But the Arklow Wind is not an oil tanker, so I don't know how it would have been "carrying".

    https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/details/9818943



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,557 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    I assume one of the concerns is the clean up in case of accident..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,381 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    The link below says impossible to clean up and the emissions speeding up melting of ice

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpv3dk4ydr3o



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,407 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    'Hit and run' with a supertanker 😁.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,407 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    I see the seized tobacco smuggling ship MV Shingle is to be towed from New Ross and sank this Sunday to form an artificial reef in Killala Bay, should be an interesting attraction for the area…



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