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Maritime News Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,442 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    This ship was originally bound for Lithuania from Russia with a cargo of ammonium nitrate but has been denied entry to Klaipeda. Its current destination is listed as Marsaxlokk, in Malta but the Maltese authorities have refused entry unless the cargo is unloaded beforehand.

    It's now anchored off Kent near the Dover Straights one of the world's busiest waterways. Given the cargo it's unlikely to be welcomed in to many ports following the incident in Beirut involving the same cargo in storage.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 6,369 Mod ✭✭✭✭fergal.b


    That's a big bomb, don't think I would like to be mooring up alongside.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,063 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    Whats the actual problem, is the cargo in a poor state ?or is it the ship?

    I think ammonium nitrate gets shipped all the time ..so it's not the type of cargo

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,285 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    We've a holiday home about 35km from Klaipeda, and our neighbour keeps his boat in Klaipeda too, so only too happy to see this load turned away…

    Meanwhile Lithuania are realising that having only 1 port (Klaipeda), which is within easy reach of Russia by land, sea & air isn't the best idea, so are pumping money into developing an old dilapidated fishing harbour in a town called Sventoji into a modern marina, with facilities to boot… This is the town we have our home in, so it's great to see these facilities going in…

    This is how it was;

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    And this is where they got to last year… (as from being there a few weeks ago, some pontoons have gone in)

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    It won't be a massive harbour, but already a sailing school has sprung up, and I'm sure they'll be able to base a few patrol boats here too…

    1 of the main issues has always been silting up of the entrance, but now the parliament has uninamiously backed the final steps in the upgrade works they can take care of it..

    This is the ultimate long term goal…

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    Interesting read here (which includes stories of the Port's quite turbulent past, including the English having to be burned out of Sventoji briefly)

    https://sventosiosuostas.lt/en/about-us/

    So AndyBoBandy's plan to retire off to Lithuania and bring the boat with me is alive and well!!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,285 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    just the €5.3m to store the seized MV Matthew over the last 13 months…..

    I see another MV Shingle on the cards here….. only a lot more expensive!!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,182 ✭✭✭Bogwoppit


    You’d expect them to recoup that cost from the owners/insurers/sale of assets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,442 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Yes they apparently have a full maintenance crew aboard keeping it ship shape. I suppose unlike Shingle this should have a resale value when it's no longer required to be kept by the State, that said you might be looking at 1 or 2 million after expenses are deducted, still a plus I suppose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,595 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    There's no resale value,her time is up, scrap value



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,063 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    How could it be 100 grand a week, ? I understand it's in berth ,

    Although I do question why port of cork would be charging that much for just berthing a ship for what was always going to be at least a year.I understand that basic maintenance needs to be done , but that would have been separate to berthing fees

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,285 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    I do question why port of cork would be charging that much for just berthing a ship 

    The berthing fee’s are the berthing fee’s though, and Revenue won’t get a special rate because it’s a seized ship!!!!

    €100k a week berthage doesn’t sound that outlandish in fairness!! It’s just over €14k per day….. ships get in and get back out as fast as possible so as to minimise such costs…. And even if they foresee delays, they’d rather sit outside the harbour at anchor than delay in port paying those rates…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,063 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    I dunno , I suppose It depends, if the berth is in demand then its commercial interest , if it's being put in a "storage berth " for months on end then I'd expect a much reduced rate , these things can always be negotiated , especially if it's your 100% shareholder , that wants the deal , could be remembered when next looking for finding ..

    I'm more Inclined to think no one in revenue pushed for a lower storage rate ..

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,182 ✭✭✭Bogwoppit


    Would cost probably 250k/year just on insurance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,595 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Harbour fees, maintenance crew salary, insurance, safety equipment will have to be kept to standard,so annual service fees,,oils and service for engines,tugs every time she is moved, the list goes on,,sell to a scrap yard as quick as legally possible.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,865 ✭✭✭✭josip


    I suppose the "two days you're happy" saying about boats applies to states also, not just individuals.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,442 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151




  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,011 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    If your broadband goes down!

    https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2024/1115/1481145-russian-spy-ship-confirmed-to-be-operating-off-dublin-near-cables/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,442 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    That might explain the buffering on Netflix last night for the boxing 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,442 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    I see BBC have a 1 hour documentary tonight on the Baltimore bridge collapse after the containership Dali collided with it in March, might be of interest.

    BBC1 at 9pm…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,285 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Meanwhile all sailings in and out of Holyhead are on hold since the Ulysses had a bit of a ‘prang’ on Friday!!

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,285 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Meanwhile in comes the SeaTruck looking like Forrest Gump returning to port after the rest of the shrimping boats were destroyed!!

    2 IF boats alongside, and 2 Stena's out in the ancorage..

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 Timesheet


    How long will it take to fix that contraption that they park at in Holyhead?

    Can they still use one side of it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 935 ✭✭✭Boardnashea


    Did they take out one of the pillars entirely? Was there much damage to the boat?

    And is each berth designed for a specific ship, or could a ferry divert to another berth/harbour with little fuss?

    TIA



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,285 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    yes, it looks like one of the pillars was taken out of it… the ship probably came away with minor dents and some paint scratched.

    I'd say any ship could operate on any side, however it looks like each pillar on either side is integral to the overall structural integrity of the entire system, so if there's damage to one pillar anywhere, the entire jetty is out of action.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 672 ✭✭✭Not made with hands


    And the force of impact would have pushed through and possibly damaged the opposite side without it being obvious.

    It wouldn't surprise me if it's out of action a while.

    The shore crew had just left before it collapsed. Reading on another forum they are reluctant to use it.

    I'm surprised it doesn't seem to be too high a priority in the main stream media / politicians.

    This could lead to all sorts of delays and higher costs in general.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,285 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    Divers were down there today making inspections, while low tide revealed a little more of the fallen pillar/walkway...

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    Irish Ferries said they're planning a sail from Dublin tomorrow afternoon, so we'll see.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,863 ✭✭✭billie1b


    I believe it was the James Joyce that had the prang in Holyhead in the high winds, no damage to the ship, the two berths totally shifted with the impact, a visual inspection was carried out and the berths were deemed safe. The Ulysses was the next ship in and when she was departing for Dublin her bow thrusters caused too much turbulence (no fault of hers) in the water and the berth gave way. Three workers were on it at the time and jumped to safety just in time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 672 ✭✭✭Not made with hands


    We await confirmation of reopening of Holyhead Port. Final confirmation of the sailing feasibility is not expected until Thursday.

    The devil is in the detail. That's buried on the IF website not at all obvious.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,892 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    I had heard about this a few days ago and I brushed off as nothing major- due to take a Sail/rail to England early next week and now getting anxious I’ll have to re arrange travel plans. Absolute insanity to have the major sea route in and out of the country just severed thanks to one side one of one fairly crappy jetty



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 672 ✭✭✭Not made with hands


    JJ gone to Rosslare so it will be doing Rosslare Pembroke.

    Holyhead could be gone for a while.



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