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Belarmine Woods, Stepaside - Megathread

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  • Registered Users Posts: 66 ✭✭sausagekayak


    Thefact wrote: »
    Looks like prices have increased for the next phase, below details are from the sf email

    2 Bedroom Homes From €345,000 85sq.m./915sq.ft. (approx)
    3 Bedroom Homes From €395,000 104sq.m./1,119sq.ft. to 117sq.m./1,259sq.ft. (approx)
    4 Bedroom Homes From €495,000 155sq.m./1,668sq.ft. (approx)

    Is this normal? Do prices go up this much for a phase 2? I was planning on trying to get a house here based on the phase 1 prices, this price rise has pushed me out of the market.


  • Registered Users Posts: 295 ✭✭deco72


    JustaGO wrote: »
    We still didnt sign and waiting for few answers but ours is not to be ready till June but we expect with all the delays it might be longer again.
    We were finally allowed to see similar floor plan house as the one we picked had no show house and lots people didnt want to sign for that floor plan without seeing it. We took few measurements when looking at it and now comparing the to the ones from the application they are very very similar.

    any news for the people who were to move in mid December? did u get more info? did u get final dates yet?

    Hey
    Just wondering how long it took to sign and are they still giving the appliances even if outside the 21 days that's stated in the brochure? We put a deposit down on a 3bed for phase 2 last week but haven't even got a receipt for that yet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Rasa2


    deco72 wrote: »
    Hey
    Just wondering how long it took to sign and are they still giving the appliances even if outside the 21 days that's stated in the brochure? We put a deposit down on a 3bed for phase 2 last week but haven't even got a receipt for that yet.

    Same here we paid the deposit last week but no receipt, did you gave your solicitors name yet? Did they received the contract?


  • Registered Users Posts: 295 ✭✭deco72


    Rasa2 wrote: »
    Same here we paid the deposit last week but no receipt, did you gave your solicitors name yet? Did they received the contract?

    Gave solicitors name but haven't heard from them if they have received it. Don't think they will receive until the receipt is sent.


  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭JustaGO


    deco72 wrote: »
    Hey
    Just wondering how long it took to sign and are they still giving the appliances even if outside the 21 days that's stated in the brochure? We put a deposit down on a 3bed for phase 2 last week but haven't even got a receipt for that yet.


    As far as I remember our solicitor got the receipt. They are so busy and slow I wouldnt worry. We never got the contract within the 21 days from them so dont worry about that. Its only in the brochure. Once you get the contract your soliciotr will send back questions to them so again you will have to wait for the response only then you should sign. The appliances are included as we asked about it since it took ages to sign the contract and get all the answers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 shulja


    Thefact wrote: »
    Looks like prices have increased for the next phase, below details are from the sf email

    2 Bedroom Homes From €345,000 85sq.m./915sq.ft. (approx)
    3 Bedroom Homes From €395,000 104sq.m./1,119sq.ft. to 117sq.m./1,259sq.ft. (approx)
    4 Bedroom Homes From €495,000 155sq.m./1,668sq.ft. (approx)

    Do you now that the waiting time for now is 1.5 year!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Rasa2


    shulja wrote: »
    Do you now that the waiting time for now is 1.5 year!!

    We were advised May next year?!


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 shulja


    Rasa2 wrote: »
    We were advised May next year?!

    I don't believe them, as people who were waiting for this march/April has been told wait until october for now. And then, you believe they speed up and build another 2 roads during the winter? No way! So 1.5 looks very good for me.

    Another point here banks don't give approvals for so long. ((


  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭kerrymaid11


    shulja wrote: »
    I don't believe them, as people who were waiting for this march/April has been told wait until october for now. And then, you believe they speed up and build another 2 roads during the winter? No way! So 1.5 looks very good for me.

    Another point here banks don't give approvals for so long. ((

    Where are you getting this information. Did you buy in phase 1


  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭JustaGO


    Where are you getting this information. Did you buy in phase 1

    We bought in phase 1 and got the letter just this week that ours won't be ready till October. When they were selling phase 1 they said Nov/December 2015 , Feb/March 2016 and Jun/Jul 2016 completion dates depending on where the house is top of show houses or 2nd cup de sac. Its 3-4 months behind the schedule which is not the worst but I can't see how can they finish the whole place by May 2017.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭kerrymaid11


    JustaGO wrote: »
    We bought in phase 1 and got the letter just this week that ours won't be ready till October. When they were selling phase 1 they said Nov/December 2015 , Feb/March 2016 and Jun/Jul 2016 completion dates depending on where the house is top of show houses or 2nd cup de sac. Its 3-4 months behind the schedule which is not the worst but I can't see how can they finish the whole place by May 2017.

    Yes but wasn't the launch only last September so that's just over a year to have your build ready. We'll just have to wait and see. It's making the mortgage application more difficult as we will have to reapply in 6 months time again :mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 shulja


    Yes, this is the point - Banks will not agree to extend letter for 1 or 1.5 years. And now we have to give them the 10% payment with no guarantee that the bank will give the mortgage (same amount) next time. I wouldn't like to risk with 40K as it is not refundable. Or we can all strike ))


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 Rasa2


    shulja wrote: »
    Yes, this is the point - Banks will not agree to extend letter for 1 or 1.5 years. And now we have to give them the 10% payment with no guarantee that the bank will give the mortgage (same amount) next time. I wouldn't like to risk with 40K as it is not refundable. Or we can all strike ))

    Aks your solicitor to include the caveat re ban approval and circumstancenal change they can do that. Which will mean that if something changes they have to give the money back. It wont be simple changes but for example if banks now wants 30% initial money that will allow you to withdraw frome the contract !


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 shulja


    Rasa2 thanks for advice, we are first time buyers and know nothing about all these features ))


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭PhoenixParker


    Also have your solicitor ask that the vendors solicitor holds onto your deposit money in their client account rather than passing it to the builder.
    That protects your deposit in case the builder goes belly up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 shulja


    Is that all not mentioned in the contract? Did you get a chance to read fully the contract before signing?
    Any way, thanks for good advises, you can write some more good ones. ))


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 162 ✭✭custom_build


    Also have your solicitor ask that the vendors solicitor holds onto your deposit money in their client account rather than passing it to the builder. That protects your deposit in case the builder goes belly up.


    The builder is funded by NAMA, so I'd imagine your deposit would be about as safe as it gets.


  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭JustaGO


    Yes but wasn't the launch only last September so that's just over a year to have your build ready. We'll just have to wait and see. It's making the mortgage application more difficult as we will have to reapply in 6 months time again :mad:

    Unfortunatelly no. The launch was September 15 all right but they started to build them in march 2015 so by September the rite and left site were ready they still were doing work at the bottom of the road. Lets hope that they hired more people for the summer so it goes fast and things like electricity water etc will be quicker to connect to the rest of the estate.
    I think if we are in by the end of this year we will be lucky.


  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭JustaGO


    Also have your solicitor ask that the vendors solicitor holds onto your deposit money in their client account rather than passing it to the builder.
    That protects your deposit in case the builder goes belly up.

    We were recommended to that by our solicitor as well.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭kerrymaid11


    JustaGO wrote: »
    Unfortunatelly no. The launch was September 15 all right but they started to build them in march 2015 so by September the rite and left site were ready they still were doing work at the bottom of the road. Lets hope that they hired more people for the summer so it goes fast and things like electricity water etc will be quicker to connect to the rest of the estate.
    I think if we are in by the end of this year we will be lucky.

    Ok thanks for that, it's so unpredictable hopefully as you say things might speed up over the summer. I hope you guys get to move in in October!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 Grnnomono


    Hi,
    Can anyone tell me who are supplying the kitchens and countertops for Belarmine Woods? Thanks!


  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭JustaGO


    Grnnomono wrote: »
    Hi,
    Can anyone tell me who are supplying the kitchens and countertops for Belarmine Woods? Thanks!

    Mountlodge Furniture


  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭JustaGO


    Can anyone see how many houses are now up on the 2nd cul de sac? Or are there any at all?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 shulja


    I will be there today/ tomorrow, will make Photo for you! ))


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 shulja


    hmmm.... I did a photo, but as a new user can't upload it here ... ((


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  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭JustaGO


    shulja wrote: »
    hmmm.... I did a photo, but as a new user can't upload it here ... ((


    Thank you. Sent you pm:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 shulja


    So, just quick overview. If you remember the first house (opposite the show houses) it had only base at the time when we were buying early April. Now it has the roof but a lot of work inside. Over 4 houses finished until the roof in this line and 2 more cross the road. On the Photo I sent you is the roof only of the next line house. Hope you understand ))


  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭JustaGO


    shulja wrote: »
    So, just quick overview. If you remember the first house (opposite the show houses) it had only base at the time when we were buying early April. Now it has the roof but a lot of work inside. Over 4 houses finished until the roof in this line and 2 more cross the road. On the Photo I sent you is the roof only of the next line house. Hope you understand ))

    Oh ok. Our house in the 2nd road - 1st cup de sac that is already done and people move in and then on the left of the office show house down so was wondering if there were any houses up on that road or are they only working at the moment on the houses opposite the office.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10 shulja


    JustaGO wrote: »
    Oh ok. Our house in the 2nd road - 1st cup de sac that is already done and people move in and then on the left of the office show house down so was wondering if there were any houses up on that road or are they only working at the moment on the houses opposite the office.

    They just started 2nd cul de sac. At the moment there is only basement. Looks like they want to finish opposite the office first and then start 2nd cul de sac.


  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭kerrymaid11


    hi

    Has anyone signed contracts yet? We are due to sign this week. Has anyone picked out tiles/paint etc yet or is it a bit early. Thanks a mill!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10 shulja


    We signed already. The tiles / paint will be next march - April, closer to the end


  • Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭KingCong


    JustaGO wrote: »
    Oh ok. Our house in the 2nd road - 1st cup de sac that is already done and people move in and then on the left of the office show house down so was wondering if there were any houses up on that road or are they only working at the moment on the houses opposite the office.

    The first 8 houses on the right side of the second cul de sac are nearly fully roofed/slated (another day or two left), with the next two at the end on the right not far behind. The block work is also almost complete on the first 8, I'd say that should be finished by the end of the week. They look like they are making good progress, the houses are flying up (and wrecking the nice view we temporarily had out the back window :P )


  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭JustaGO


    KingCong wrote: »
    The first 8 houses on the right side of the second cul de sac are nearly fully roofed/slated (another day or two left), with the next two at the end on the right not far behind. The block work is also almost complete on the first 8, I'd say that should be finished by the end of the week. They look like they are making good progress, the houses are flying up (and wrecking the nice view we temporarily had out the back window :P )

    Only reading your post now. Thanks so much for the update:D
    How is the life there so far? Did you get internet and tv sorted without any problems?Do you know if Sky dish is allowed?


  • Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭KingCong


    JustaGO wrote: »
    Only reading your post now. Thanks so much for the update:D
    How is the life there so far? Did you get internet and tv sorted without any problems?Do you know if Sky dish is allowed?


    All good so far, got internet sorted no problem with Virgin, going to go with Saorview for TV so haven't gotten around to sorting that out yet (can't stand Virgin's TV service). Not sure about Sky, think one of the houses has it (or a dish at least, with a wire running out a window and across the roof), I'd be wary though of a Sky installer drilling through the wall and puncturing the air tight membrane, it'd be bye bye to a lot of the advantages of an A rated house. Speaking of which, the air tightness and solar panels are unreal, gas and electricity bills have been really really low so far.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 gaddrep2


    KingCong wrote: »
    We bought a mid terrace Belvedere, they wouldn't agree to make any changes I'm afraid. We were looking for them to change the door on the under stairs storage, the small square door makes no sense, wanted to shift it closer to the bathroom and have a bigger door for hanging jackets etc. They said they won't make any modifications as they were already providing far more choice than most new homes (kitchen, tiles, paints etc). I'm not too bothered to be honest as planning on putting in slide out under stairs storage units ourselves.

    Hi, just wondering if anyone has had any wins on getting the builder to agree to any changes since? Hoping they may have started to give into pressure :-)


  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭JustaGO


    KingCong wrote: »
    All good so far, got internet sorted no problem with Virgin, going to go with Saorview for TV so haven't gotten around to sorting that out yet (can't stand Virgin's TV service). Not sure about Sky, think one of the houses has it (or a dish at least, with a wire running out a window and across the roof), I'd be wary though of a Sky installer drilling through the wall and puncturing the air tight membrane, it'd be bye bye to a lot of the advantages of an A rated house. Speaking of which, the air tightness and solar panels are unreal, gas and electricity bills have been really really low so far.


    What about the walls? Are they strong enough to hang shelves and TV?


  • Registered Users Posts: 225 ✭✭KingCong


    JustaGO wrote: »
    KingCong wrote: »
    All good so far, got internet sorted no problem with Virgin, going to go with Saorview for TV so haven't gotten around to sorting that out yet (can't stand Virgin's TV service). Not sure about Sky, think one of the houses has it (or a dish at least, with a wire running out a window and across the roof), I'd be wary though of a Sky installer drilling through the wall and puncturing the air tight membrane, it'd be bye bye to a lot of the advantages of an A rated house. Speaking of which, the air tightness and solar panels are unreal, gas and electricity bills have been really really low so far.


    What about the walls? Are they strong enough to hang shelves and TV?

    They're still standing so far anyhow! :D

    I'm planning on hanging a TV on a wall in the kitchen/living area, it's low down the list of priorities at the minute though so it'll be a few months before I get to it, can let ya know then. One annoyance is the lack of sockets on the wall i want to hang the TV, seems a big oversight not to have any there as its the obvious wall for a TV (or a lamp etc on a sideboard). Socket placement in general could be better throughout the house, for example there's no sockets on the boundary wall with the house next door (assume that's for sound insulation reasons) which isn't ideal in the bedrooms.

    Also watch out for the paint during your snag, we found the quality of the paintwork overall to be fairly poor, with cheap paint used and it badly painted on the walls. We spotted this in our snag and they rectified some of it, but we've noticed tons more examples of rubbish quality painting since we moved in.

    The above sounds a bit negative but its minor stuff really, overall we're delighted with the house so far.


  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭JustaGO


    KingCong wrote: »
    They're still standing so far anyhow! :D

    I'm planning on hanging a TV on a wall in the kitchen/living area, it's low down the list of priorities at the minute though so it'll be a few months before I get to it, can let ya know then. One annoyance is the lack of sockets on the wall i want to hang the TV, seems a big oversight not to have any there as its the obvious wall for a TV (or a lamp etc on a sideboard). Socket placement in general could be better throughout the house, for example there's no sockets on the boundary wall with the house next door (assume that's for sound insulation reasons) which isn't ideal in the bedrooms.

    Also watch out for the paint during your snag, we found the quality of the paintwork overall to be fairly poor, with cheap paint used and it badly painted on the walls. We spotted this in our snag and they rectified some of it, but we've noticed tons more examples of rubbish quality painting since we moved in.

    The above sounds a bit negative but its minor stuff really, overall we're delighted with the house so far.

    Would love to paint everything using the colors I want and not what they offer but I guess we can do that after a year or 2 when paint gets dirty and save a bit of money for now.
    Wanted to ask about the walls mainly as I have this vision of thin walls that will get holes just by punching them and afraid they wont hold any weight:)
    Would need to get electrician as well then to get few more sockets installed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭JustaGO


    KingCong wrote: »
    The first 8 houses on the right side of the second cul de sac are nearly fully roofed/slated (another day or two left), with the next two at the end on the right not far behind. The block work is also almost complete on the first 8, I'd say that should be finished by the end of the week. They look like they are making good progress, the houses are flying up (and wrecking the nice view we temporarily had out the back window :P )

    Any more visible progress??:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭schalken999


    hi

    Has anyone signed contracts yet? We are due to sign this week. Has anyone picked out tiles/paint etc yet or is it a bit early. Thanks a mill!

    We're in the same boat and hope to sign contracts once we have our letter of offer from the bank.
    Just concerned after our solicitor informed us that these contracts are unconditional - We stand to lose our booking deposit if banks don't agree to lend when we make a new mortgage application around Jan 2017.

    The agent however had informed that all they need is an AIP to sign contracts and had told us that deposit will be refunded if mortgage isn't approved.

    We've been told the house will be ready by June 2017. Any idea if they will stick to these dates ?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭schalken999


    shulja wrote: »
    Yes, this is the point - Banks will not agree to extend letter for 1 or 1.5 years. And now we have to give them the 10% payment with no guarantee that the bank will give the mortgage (same amount) next time. I wouldn't like to risk with 40K as it is not refundable. Or we can all strike ))

    Similar situation here. Our solicitor told us that the contracts are unconditional and 10k booking deposit ( paid already) plus balance 10% of property price ( due to be paid after contract is signed) is non refundable if banks don't agree to lend when we make another application early next year.

    Any suggestions how to deal with this ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭JustaGO


    Hey

    I am not sure how its exactly with the deposit but we asked our solicitor to add the finance liability clause to the contract so that if you can't drawn down the mortgage they wont find you liable and you wont own them the money for the house.
    Maybe ask your solicitor about subject to finance clause.
    Ours was to be ready for June 2016 and now its moved to October 2016. We went to the site at the weekend and our house doesnt even have a roof on yet so not sure they will be able to finish it all outside/inside and road/parking for October.
    If they gave you a date of June 2017 I wouldn't make any plans and assume that there wont be any delay...


  • Registered Users Posts: 79 ✭✭JustaGO


    Anyone talked to Sherryfitz to see if October is still the date and got any news on the progress they are making??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 Thefact


    I am still being told October, the roof has been on for a few weeks now so hopefully it won't be much later than planned.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,173 ✭✭✭Dearg81


    Similar situation here. Our solicitor told us that the contracts are unconditional and 10k booking deposit ( paid already) plus balance 10% of property price ( due to be paid after contract is signed) is non refundable if banks don't agree to lend when we make another application early next year.

    Any suggestions how to deal with this ?

    There's nothing you can do now if you have signed the contract but your solicitor should have added the clause JustaGo mentioned before you signed so they've messed up and left you in a bad spot.

    Hope it all works out for you with the mortgage in the end.


  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭schalken999


    Dearg81 wrote: »
    There's nothing you can do now if you have signed the contract but your solicitor should have added the clause JustaGo mentioned before you signed so they've messed up and left you in a bad spot.

    Hope it all works out for you with the mortgage in the end.

    Sorted as our solicitor got the subject to finance clause inserted before we signed. Now for the long wait till June 2017 :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 bmv


    Could anyone who moved into 3 bed extended house tell me what's the floor area downstairs?
    Also does anyone have any updates on the completion date for the remaining first phase? There is not much information available from the agents nor from the builders.


  • Registered Users Posts: 295 ✭✭deco72


    Anyone else get a completion date of March 2017 for their house in 2nd phase?


  • Registered Users Posts: 60 ✭✭kerrymaid11


    deco72 wrote: »
    Anyone else get a completion date of March 2017 for their house in 2nd phase?

    Nope haven't been speaking to Sherry Fitz since the 2nd phase launched. Did Sherry Fitz mention this date to you? Would be brill if they were ready this soon!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 295 ✭✭deco72


    deco72 wrote: »
    Anyone else get a completion date of March 2017 for their house in 2nd phase?

    Nope haven't been speaking to Sherry Fitz since the 2nd phase launched. Did Sherry Fitz mention this date to you? Would be brill if they were ready this soon!

    Yeah I was talking to Ger from SF and that's the date she gave. I was also talking to another woman at the show houses about a month ago and the same date was given. Fingers crossed it is done by then. Foundations are down so hopefully see some more progress in next month or so


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