Becky Lynch Megathread - Rumors, opinions etc. (spoilers for most recent shows)

Itssoeasy · 02-02-2019 1:45am #1

I know that Dave "plans can change" Meltzer is saying that Becky vs Ronda will be made a triple threat adding Charlotte Flair, which would be the dumbest move WWE could make. I mean in a weird way Nia being a disaster in the ring may have helped Becky and Ronda and Charlotte by changing the survivor series match it's helped Becky potentially main event Wrestlemania.

CastorTroy · 02-02-2019 2:16am

Wait until they add both Charlotte and Nia, so Nia can take the pin.

What are the chances of the match actually being the main event and not 3rd or 4th of 4 main events. Or even remember when Sheamus won the Rumble and he was the first match?
If ever there was a time to put the women in the main event of Mania, this is it. Becky's hot. The crowd will be more into it than they were for last year's main event

Necro · 02-02-2019 2:17am

Itssoeasy wrote:

I know that Dave "plans can change" Meltzer is saying that Becky vs Ronda will be made a triple threat adding Charlotte Flair, which would be the dumbest move WWE could make. I mean in a weird way Nia being a disaster in the ring may have helped Becky and Ronda and Charlotte by changing the survivor series match it's helped Becky potentially main event Wrestlemania.

I'm terribly worried they're building up to an 'injury' angle after Smackdown where Becky has to give up her shot and Charlotte takes her place somehow.

Wonder how long she'll sell that knee for....

Itssoeasy · 02-02-2019 2:20am

BTW that's not a knock on Charlotte. I think she is great and worked for all she's gotten, and to be fair she had way more to overcome than Becky, Sasha, or Bayley had to. None of the other NXT horsewomen had to deal with the pressure of being the daughter of one of if not the best pro wrestler in history. Noone on the WWE roster male or female had that pressure IMO.Yes there are/were second generation wrestlers in WWE who have to live up to their parents achievements in the ring. I mean she had to fight from being seen as Ric Flair's Daughter Charlotte to being Charlotte Ric Flair's Daughter.

ERG89 · 02-02-2019 2:36am

Necro wrote:

I'm terribly worried they're building up to an 'injury' angle after Smackdown where Becky has to give up her shot and Charlotte takes her place somehow.

I was actually thinking was her injuring her knee just a seed to have her lose to Charlotte using the figure 8. Lynch is going to be in that Mania match though.

Itssoeasy wrote:

I know that Dave "plans can change" Meltzer......

To be fair nobody sane or otherwise can explain the logic of WWE's booking week to week. It's all on Vince's whim & he often changes his mind if he feels something is too obvious(ie makes sense). It's why they just don't do continuity & you get illogical sh!t like Rusev's last week.

J. Marston · 02-02-2019 2:43am

In a way, I hope Charlotte gets added because I don't think they'll have Becky tap Ronda Rousey out with an armbar. So, triple threat and let Becky tap Charlotte out after she spends the next few weeks worming her way into the match at Becky's expense.

Fantasy booking 101.

Itssoeasy · 02-02-2019 2:44am

ERG89 wrote: »

I was actually thinking was her injuring her knee just a seed to have her lose to Charlotte using the figure 8. Lynch is going to be in that Mania match though.

To be fair nobody sane or otherwise can explain the logic of WWE's booking week to week. It's all on Vince's whim & he often changes his mind if he feels something is too obvious(ie makes sense). It's why they just don't do continuity & you get illogical sh!t like Rusev's last week.

Yeah Becky will be in the Mania match but IMO she should have the spotlight with Ronda on her own and not be a triple Threat or fatal fourway match.

Yeah, just going on what some who were in WWE say, be careful what you suggest to vince because he could like an idea that might be utter ****e.

Necro · 02-02-2019 2:53am

ERG89 wrote:

I was actually thinking was her injuring her knee just a seed to have her lose to Charlotte using the figure 8. Lynch is going to be in that Mania match though.

Oh definitely. I more see it as an 'in' for Charlotte tbh. Kayfabe take out Becky only for her to get back in to the match she rightly deserves.

Kinda like they did with Rollins and Triple H a while back.

In fairness it would work in the sense that Charlotte would have nuclear heat at least temporarily even.

Keep Becky off TV for a week or two then boom she comes back in and regains her slot.

Don't agree it needs to be a triple threat but it seems to be a path they might be taking.

leggo · 02-02-2019 12:39pm

To be fair, I’d much prefer Becky/Ronda straight up, but Charlotte deserves to be involved in the first female main event of WrestleMania. She’s been pivotal to getting there.

beakerjoe · 02-02-2019 12:48pm

leggo wrote: »

To be fair, I’d much prefer Becky/Ronda straight up, but Charlotte deserves to be involved in the first female main event of WrestleMania. She’s been pivotal to getting there.

I dont see Charlotte being added a bad thing. Not only can she make the match better potentially, her being added to the feud may help folks get behind Becky more.

Look at WM30 when it was announced to be Randy Orton v Batista. The more fans perceived that DB was being wronged, the more they got behind him.

HandsomeBob · 02-02-2019 12:54pm

J. Marston wrote: »

In a way, I hope Charlotte gets added because I don't think they'll have Becky tap Ronda Rousey out with an armbar. So, triple threat and let Becky tap Charlotte out after she spends the next few weeks worming her way into the match at Becky's expense.

Fantasy booking 101.

Doesn't necessarily have to be a clean victory for Becky though. I know that's what people want but there's so many ways they can go with Becky's character. Would love to see interference from someone like Rhea Ripley which leads to Becky pinning Ronda....with Rhea ultimately being revealed as Becky's bodyguard.

It goes against the "bad ass" The Man gimmick, but I think there's more mileage in Becky as a heel than face. I'd even argue once they started to go with the character as a more or less face that's when Becky started to lose a bit of her edge.

beakerjoe · 02-02-2019 1:06pm

HandsomeBob wrote: »

Doesn't necessarily have to be a clean victory for Becky though. I know that's what people want but there's so many ways they can go with Becky's character. Would love to see interference from someone like Rhea Ripley which leads to Becky pinning Ronda....with Rhea ultimately being revealed as Becky's bodyguard.

It goes against the "bad ass" The Man gimmick, but I think there's more mileage in Becky as a heel than face. I'd even argue once they started to go with the character as a more or less face that's when Becky started to lose a bit of her edge.

If the are giving Becky a win and if rumours are true about Rhonda departing it wouldnt be out of the realms of possibility for of Rhonda to tap out and put Becky over on her way out

If they are going that way of course. I some how doubt Rhonda is leaving myself but you never know.

Necro · 02-02-2019 1:21pm

HandsomeBob wrote:

It goes against the "bad ass" The Man gimmick, but I think there's more mileage in Becky as a heel than face. I'd even argue once they started to go with the character as a more or less face that's when Becky started to lose a bit of her edge.

Not sure the fans will take Becky as a heel tbh. Certainly not over Rousey at present. They tried their hardest during the feud with Charlotte to have her as the heel and failed miserably so not sure they'll go down that road again for now at least.

rossie1977 · 02-02-2019 1:35pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I know that Dave "plans can change" Meltzer is saying that Becky vs Ronda will be made a triple threat adding Charlotte Flair, which would be the dumbest move WWE could make. I mean in a weird way Nia being a disaster in the ring may have helped Becky and Ronda and Charlotte by changing the survivor series match it's helped Becky potentially main event Wrestlemania.

We have been calling for long term booking in wwe and Charlotte vs Becky vs Rousey is that whether we like it or not.

I mean it would be strange if wwe had Charlotte beat up Rousey at survivor series, cost Charlotte title at TLC and then have Becky win rumble despite not officially being in match again costing Charlotte her chance and not follow up on it.

beakerjoe · 02-02-2019 1:43pm

Necro wrote: »

Not sure the fans will take Becky as a heel tbh. Certainly not over Rousey at present. They tried their hardest during the feud with Charlotte to have her as the heel and failed miserably so not sure they'll go down that road again for now at least.

Shes been a heelish in nature since she turned. The fans like it and cheer.

Most modern day successful heels get cheered as faces.

Kevin Owens when he debuted v Cena, AJ when he turned,

The dynamic of heels and faces has changed for us. WWE arent great at making faces we want to get behind and the fans who are over 20 appraciate a good heel.

Necro · 02-02-2019 1:50pm

beakerjoe wrote:

The dynamic of heels and faces has changed for us. WWE arent great at making faces we want to get behind and the fans who are over 20 appraciate a good heel.

Oh absolutely, they cannot organically make a face in WWE anymore they just make them bland, smiley and boring ala Bayley, Finn, etc.

Heels get from what I can see a huge advantage in terms of:

Less generic promos
Slightly more creative freedom.

Cool heels are what they do all the time now, look at Bryan since he turned.

AJ was, whilst talented, getting stuck in the RAW mire till he turned and went to Smackdown.

Zayn was as bland and boring as they come as a face since coming up and when he turned he at least showed some sort of character.

Reigns was hot as all hell as a heel and they wrecked him within months of him turning face.

Its a constant problem that they fail to address year on year in their booking of good guys on WWE.

SureYWouldntYa · 02-02-2019 5:36pm

leggo wrote: »

To be fair, I’d much prefer Becky/Ronda straight up, but Charlotte deserves to be involved in the first female main event of WrestleMania. She’s been pivotal to getting there.

The way I see it, Becky v Ronda is hot enough that it rightly deserves to main event over whats predicted for the rest of the card

Charlotte on the other hand is being put in the main event rather than being a natural part of it

I’m a big believer in Charlotte and generally don’t agree when people call her the female Roman, but it’s not her time now

Monokne · 02-02-2019 7:42pm

HandsomeBob wrote: »

It goes against the "bad ass" The Man gimmick, but I think there's more mileage in Becky as a heel than face. I'd even argue once they started to go with the character as a more or less face that's when Becky started to lose a bit of her edge.

This is one of the more bizarre things I've read on here. Someone gets themselves organically to a level a babyface has not been in years and your solution is to turn this person heel? Vince, is that you?

The audience loves Becky. Even if you tried to turn her, they would reject it, like they did the night after Summerslam.

HandsomeBob · 02-02-2019 7:59pm

Monokne wrote: »

This is one of the more bizarre things I've read on here. Someone gets themselves organically to a level a babyface has not been in years and your solution is to turn this person heel? Vince, is that you?

The audience loves Becky. Even if you tried to turn her, they would reject it, like they did the night after Summerslam.

Where does a face Becky go after Ronda?

Pentecost · 02-02-2019 8:03pm

HandsomeBob wrote: »

Where does a face Becky go after Ronda?

Heel Charlotte I suppose. Though I expect them to try something Horsewomen v Horsewomen while they can.

J. Marston · 02-02-2019 8:04pm

HandsomeBob wrote: »

Where does a face Becky go after Ronda?

If she's Raw champion, lots of choices. Nia is the obvious one, Bliss, Ruby Riott even. Heel Sasha if she isn't occupied with tag team stuff.

HandsomeBob · 02-02-2019 8:04pm

Pentecost wrote: »

Heel Charlotte I suppose. Though I expect them to try something Horsewomen v Horsewomen while they can.

Heel Charlotte has been done to death

HandsomeBob · 02-02-2019 8:06pm

J. Marston wrote: »

If she's Raw champion, lots of choices. Nia is the obvious one, Bliss, Ruby Riott even. Heel Sasha if she isn't occupied with tag team stuff.

I'll accept that if the ultimate result is Ruby as champ

Necro · 02-02-2019 8:09pm

A lot of the post Mania stuff likely depends on Rousey's contract situation. Lighter schedule, less appearances - probably stays as is.

If she leaves it'll open up a bit of a talent divide between Smackdown and Raw they'll need to fill. Probably through NXT call ups of Baszler, Kairi, Io.

I think Ronda will be around till Summerslam minimally anyways and they'll do the Horsewomen stuff either there or sometime in between with perhaps a rematch of Rousey/Becky OR Charlotte at Summerslam.

Pentecost · 02-02-2019 8:09pm

HandsomeBob wrote: »

Heel Charlotte has been done to death

Agreed but that’s what I see them doing. Otherwise some NXT call up, Shayna maybe to further the Horsewomen angle down the line if they don’t do it immediately.

Monokne · 02-02-2019 8:39pm

HandsomeBob wrote: »

Where does a face Becky go after Ronda?

If your point is they don't have heels ready for her, then their job would be to make heels. Steve Austin had no-one to work with after Wrestlemania 14 until they turned Mick Foley - should they have turned Austin heel???

Asuka or Sasha would be great in the role. Suspect Asuka may be used in that spot down the line with the win at the Rumble being a precursor to it. Would expect they will go with Alexa because they love her, although it doesn't do much for me. They still have the Nia Jax match in their back pocket too.

Lord TSC · 02-02-2019 11:15pm

Splitting off the posts from the News thread.

Necro · 02-02-2019 11:17pm

Lord TSC wrote: »

Splitting off the posts from the News thread.

Aye, makes sense m'Lord

Itssoeasy · 03-02-2019 2:32am

I mean lads obviously we are biased towards all Irish WWE wrestlers but Becky to me is the best just in terms of general overness. Not that you can dislike Sheamus or finn for any reason btw. I think Becky is great for the future of Irish wrestling from a female point of view. I mean it says that if you are a girl from Ireland who loves wrestling that the WWE isn't impossible. I think that's a great message to be able to send.

Rjd2 · 03-02-2019 4:19am

Monokne wrote: »

If your point is they don't have heels ready for her, then their job would be to make heels. Steve Austin had no-one to work with after Wrestlemania 14 until they turned Mick Foley - should they have turned Austin heel???

Asuka or Sasha would be great in the role. Suspect Asuka may be used in that spot down the line with the win at the Rumble being a precursor to it. Would expect they will go with Alexa because they love her, although it doesn't do much for me. They still have the Nia Jax match in their back pocket too.

They don't have that many people over as faces, so it would be madness to turn Becky. They can always call up Shayna Baszler if they somehow cant find options on main roster.

Bounty Hunter · 03-02-2019 7:40am

There will be penty of options on the main roster if she wins at Mania as then she will be on Raw going forward as the champ and be ready to face off against all of Raw's heels.

I don't really mind if Charlotte gets put into the mania match because long term booking wise it makes sense what with the Survivor series beatdown of Ronda etc and the fact that it would probably be a better match as a triple threat. I can understand people thinking a win in a 1on1 vs Ronda would be a bigger moment but a win in the main event of wrestlemania is already massive especially when it's the first woman to do so especially in a match including Ronda Rousey.

After Mania have Ronda take a break before returning as a heel seeking revenge on Becky. Call up Shayna at this point and full on embrace the anti Ronda reaction she would get going up against a super over Becky on a week to week basis (unlike how they can probably keep her face on Raw in the build to Mania) by turning her heel and starting the Horsewoman vs Horsewoman angle. By this point you could have even had Charlotte regain the SD title and Becky/Sasha the tag belts so they are holding all the gold going into this match.

JP Liz V1 · 03-02-2019 11:18am

I think Becky deserves her one on one WM match with Ronda, they should main event

Who was the last wrestler over as much as Becky, was it Bryan in his yes days

Bounty Hunter · 12-02-2019 11:17am

As things stand I cannot see Becky not main eventing and winning in said main event of Wrestlemania this year.

They have made it the A story on Raw (and smackdown) over things like Rollins vs Brock and the entire storyline is turning into her not letting anyone take her moment away. The company are obviously behind her now too, hence her being made Stone Cold Becky Lynch in recent weeks and going up against the McMahon family. I really can't see them denying her that moment and in doing so ending their biggest show with a chorus of boos from the fans be they aimed at Charlotte or Ronda.

J. Marston · 12-02-2019 11:33am

I think they'll main event, they wouldn't keep talking about it otherwise. But I think Charlotte could win, they showed last year they're not really bothered about going against the fans in the Mania main event.

I just hope they don't do a shìtty screwjob angle.

Bounty Hunter · 12-02-2019 11:39am

J. Marston wrote: »

I think they'll main event, they wouldn't keep talking about it otherwise. But I think Charlotte could win, they showed last year they're not really bothered about going against the fans in the Mania main event.

I just hope they don't do a shìtty screwjob angle.

Dunno, first ever womens' main event at Mania and the fans and now seemingly the company are behind Becky so I can't see why they would end it with something they would know would result in the everyone being pissed off especially when the storyline going into it is all about taking her moment away.

sirmanga · 12-02-2019 4:25pm

If/when Becky wins at Mania, I hope to God she doesn't do that most annoying thing that this generation of wrestlers all seem to do... crying after winning the belt.

Get over it and show some respect for your character. Have a cry backstage if you want

Bounty Hunter · 12-02-2019 4:35pm

sirmanga wrote: »

If/when Becky wins at Mania, I hope to God she doesn't do that most annoying thing that this generation of wrestlers all seem to do... crying after winning the belt.

Get over it and show some respect for your character. Have a cry backstage if you want

Get what your saying but I wouldn't blame her if she did and tbh I think the reason people like Becky is because of the likable person she is not her character of The Man in a similar vein to how Daniel Bryan got over in many ways because he was just such a naturally likable person that people wanted to see do well. If she did cry it'd probably just again make her seem real and like someone you can associate with. Afterall as a youg girl from Dublin who loved wrestling she probably didn't even dream she could win the main event of Wrestlemania.

sirmanga · 12-02-2019 4:46pm

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

Get what your saying but I wouldn't blame her if she did and tbh I think the reason people like Becky is because of the likable person she is not her character of The Man in a similar vein to how Daniel Bryan got over in many ways because he was just such a naturally likable person that people wanted to see do well. If she did cry it'd probably just again make her seem real and like someone you can associate with. Afterall as a youg girl from Dublin who loved wrestling she probably didn't even dream she could win the main event of Wrestlemania.

Oh I'm sure she'll be an emotional wreck if she wins. What a feat for a Dublin lass.
But we won't be watching Rebecca Quin win the belt, it's Becky Lynch. The Man. 2019's Steve Austin. Stone Cold didn't cry after winning the belt, he just went to each corner and said fcuk yeah.

Everyone is doing the breaking down crying thing now. Heel and face. It worked for someone like HBK because his storyline was the boyhood dream etc. But when I saw super heel Kevin Owens break down and cry after winning the Universal Title (with outside interference no less) I just couldn't believe what I was seeing.
Yes, Kevin Steen had achieved something that he never thought would, but that's for him to reflect on in the back.

The whole crying thing might be a Triple H directive. He knows the smart fans will love it.

"Show them how much this means to you. Don't be a afraid to well up.... then I'll take a picture with you when you come through the curtain and post it to Instagram..."

Mr.Nice Guy · 12-02-2019 6:35pm

sirmanga wrote: »

Oh I'm sure she'll be an emotional wreck if she wins. What a feat for a Dublin lass.
But we won't be watching Rebecca Quin win the belt, it's Becky Lynch. The Man. 2019's Steve Austin. Stone Cold didn't cry after winning the belt, he just went to each corner and said fcuk yeah.

Everyone is doing the breaking down crying thing now. Heel and face. It worked for someone like HBK because his storyline was the boyhood dream etc. But when I saw super heel Kevin Owens break down and cry after winning the Universal Title (with outside interference no less) I just couldn't believe what I was seeing.
Yes, Kevin Steen had achieved something that he never thought would, but that's for him to reflect on in the back.

The whole crying thing might be a Triple H directive. He knows the smart fans will love it.

"Show them how much this means to you. Don't be a afraid to well up.... then I'll take a picture with you when you come through the curtain and post it to Instagram..."

I find this bizarre tbh.

She's not a heel and she's not Austin so I fail to see the problem if she does get emotional. At one stage she thought she wouldn't wrestle again. For her to possibly be the first woman to main event Mania and win the title would be an incredible accomplishment and the idea that they'd have to TELL her to be emotional about that is laughable really.

You say it worked for Michaels because it was the boyhood dream. Well, this is the girlhood dream so why shouldn't she cry? I'd agree Kevin Owens shouldn't have cried winning the title as a heel due to interference on Raw - that's hardly the same as winning the title as a babyface in the first ever women's main event of Wrestlemania having been on the pre-show a year earlier and having thought at one point you'd never have even made it to WWE. I mean, come on.

And what's this about people crying only being a recent thing in this generation? Edge was in tears when he won the title cashing in the MITB briefcase (and he was also a heel). Benoit cried at Mania 20. Mysterio cried. Flair's promo at the Rumble when he won the title: "With a tear in my eye, this is the greatest day of my life." (And Flair cried about everything really and it hardly hurt him).

Furthermore, why would I as a fan want Becky to cry quietly backstage? I want to see her emotional. I want this sh*t to mean something. Why would anyone want genuine feelings to be kept quiet? You'd rather more of the robotic pouting of her character in recent weeks? Seriously? I don't want a celebration involving 'The Man'. Save that for Smackdown if it's needed. If she wins at Wrestlemania I want a celebration involving Rebecca Quin.

CastorTroy · 12-02-2019 6:51pm

If she gets emotional I can't blame her. Even though she's told in advance, it actually happening will hit hard.
Look at someone like Lesnar who wins a title and it means nothing to him.

Itssoeasy · 12-02-2019 7:05pm

I don't like the decision to add charlotte to (potentially) the first female main event of wrestle mania as does she need to the shoehorned into everything ? I also wouldn't blame Becky if she did cry or showed emotion for all the reasons given by people above. It's grand to say that they are told before hand but that moment for any wrestler who grew up dreaming of wrestling in WWE and then to main event wrestle mania must be a mind melter when it does happen.

sirmanga · 12-02-2019 7:07pm

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I find this bizarre tbh.

She's not a heel and she's not Austin so I fail to see the problem if she does get emotional. At one stage she thought she wouldn't wrestle again. For her to possibly be the first woman to main event Mania and win the title would be an incredible accomplishment and the idea that they'd have to TELL her to be emotional about that is laughable really.

You say it worked for Michaels because it was the boyhood dream. Well, this is the girlhood dream so why shouldn't she cry? I'd agree Kevin Owens shouldn't have cried winning the title as a heel due to interference on Raw - that's hardly the same as winning the title as a babyface in the first ever women's main event of Wrestlemania having been on the pre-show a year earlier and having thought at one point you'd never have even made it to WWE. I mean, come on.

And what's this about people crying only being a recent thing in this generation? Edge was in tears when he won the title cashing in the MITB briefcase (and he was also a heel). Benoit cried at Mania 20. Mysterio cried. Flair's promo at the Rumble when he won the title: "With a tear in my eye, this is the greatest day of my life." (And Flair cried about everything really and it hardly hurt him).

Furthermore, why would I as a fan want Becky to cry quietly backstage? I want to see her emotional. I want this sh*t to mean something. Why would anyone want genuine feelings to be kept quiet? You'd rather more of the robotic pouting of her character in recent weeks? Seriously? I don't want a celebration involving 'The Man'. Save that for Smackdown if it's needed. If she wins at Wrestlemania I want a celebration involving Rebecca Quin.

I hate the crying thing because it's like the wrestler who is crying is saying "this is a real moment."
So it lets us know that everything before that wasn't real. It just takes me out of the illusion that is wrestling.

Most of the wrestlers who cried in the past had a reason to, or it fit their character. Edge was a feral, passionate sociopath. Mysterio was doing it for his dead best friend (cashing in on his dead best friend more like).
But why would Becky cry.? Why would anyone want to see her cry? This is a fictional show, and she's playing a character. Not to take away from her personal accomplishment. But if she wants to show us how much it meant to the real Rebecca Quin, wait until the WWE 24 episode of this Mania comes out.

Also, she IS being portrayed as a female Austin. At least she was until last night when she apologised. They are basically rehashing the Austin broken neck storyline from late 97.

Just as when I'm watching any Christian Bale movie where he's lost a massive amount of weight or put a massive amount on, I don't want to think about how much effort has gone into his role, and it has no bearing on how I feel about the character he's playing. I just want to get caught up in the film.

A great actor gets you involved in the performance to the point that you forget it's a performance. Of course, I know that wrestling is different to acting, but there's no denying that wrestling is a form of acting.

I mean, what's next? At the end of Mania, will the entire roster, faces and heels, stand at the entrance way stage and all hold hands and bow?

sirmanga · 12-02-2019 7:13pm

CastorTroy wrote: »

If she gets emotional I can't blame her. Even though she's told in advance, it actually happening will hit hard.
Look at someone like Lesnar who wins a title and it means nothing to him.

Exactly! Lesnar is a mercenary. That's his character. He's just there to make his money and go home. Why would he get emotional about the belt?

Mr.Nice Guy · 12-02-2019 7:37pm

sirmanga wrote: »

I hate the crying thing because it's like the wrestler who is crying is saying "this is a real moment."
So it lets us know that everything before that wasn't real. It just takes me out of the illusion that is wrestling.

Most of the wrestlers who cried in the past had a reason to, or it fit their character. Edge was a feral, passionate sociopath. Mysterio was doing it for his dead best friend (cashing in on his dead best friend more like).
But why would Becky cry.? Why would anyone want to see her cry? This is a fictional show, and she's playing a character. Not to take away from her personal accomplishment. But if she wants to show us how much it meant to the real Rebecca Quin, wait until the WWE 24 episode of this Mania comes out.

Also, she IS being portrayed as a female Austin. At least she was until last night when she apologised. They are basically rehashing the Austin broken neck storyline from late 97.

Just as when I'm watching any Christian Bale movie where he's lost a massive amount of weight or put a massive amount on, I don't want to think about how much effort has gone into his role, and it has no bearing on how I feel about the character he's playing. I just want to get caught up in the film.

A great actor gets you involved in the performance to the point that you forget it's a performance. Of course, I know that wrestling is different to acting, but there's no denying that wrestling is a form of acting.

I mean, what's next? At the end of Mania, will the entire roster, faces and heels, stand at the entrance way stage and all hold hands and bow?

I can see where you're coming from but I think you're looking at this from an acting perspective too literally. I get the point that we want a character to remain true to its roots, but as you say yourself this is not strictly acting. This is a weird analogy but imagine if at the Academy Awards, the actors had to show up as the characters they portrayed in the films. If in this scenario, Bale won the Best Actor award would it really ruin your view of the character if the man himself got choked up accepting the accolade?

Becky may be portraying an Austin-esque character but everyone knows her personality is nothing like his. Steve wasn't the kind of person that would allow himself to get emotional even if he wanted to. I remember listening to a podcast he did about the match where he admitted to feeling Tyson's count had been too quick. He was such a perfectionist that this detail bugged him. I bet he was dwelling on that all night rather than the enormity of the win.

You say Brock wouldn't get emotional because that's his character. It's rather his personality. He doesn't have it in him to do so. She does, and I think if she lets go and allows that personality to come through rather than suppressing it for her devotion to her role, it would actually do her good, as well as help her connect with the people watching. And that's what it ought to be about.

sirmanga · 12-02-2019 7:51pm

Mr.Nice Guy wrote: »

I can see where you're coming from but I think you're looking at this from an acting perspective too literally. I get the point that we want a character to remain true to its roots, but as you say yourself this is not strictly acting. This is a weird analogy but imagine if at the Academy Awards, the actors had to show up as the characters they portrayed in the films. If in this scenario, Bale won the Best Actor award would it really ruin your view of the character if the man himself got choked up accepting the accolade?

But the Academy Awards are totally separate and distinct from a film that may be nominated at it. If Becky wants to break down and cry or get choked up on a Network special or at her Hall of Fame speech, then it's fine (although the Hall of Fame is as much a work as Monday Night Raw in my opinion).

Let's put it like this, keeping it Irish, I'm sure Colin Farrell had to pinch himself when he shot his first scene under the direction of Steven Spielberg. When the scene finished he must have thought "my God. I've made it. All my work has paid off." He may have even gone back to his trailer and had a moment.

But imagine if Farrell started weeping at the end of that first scene with Spielberg because he was so overcome. First of all, it wouldn't have been left in the final film, and second of all, Spielberg probably would have jumped down off his chair, bitch slapped Farrell and fired him on the spot.

And I think it's fair to compare films and TV directly with wrestling. After all, speaking as a long time wrestling fan, it's our first line of defence when some smart arse condescendingly tells us wrestling is fake;

"Go way! You know Game of Thrones is fake as well don't you?!" Etc

It either is a fictional TV show or it isn't. We can't have it both ways.

PTH2009 · 12-02-2019 7:58pm

christ imagine if we got Becky vs Nia at mania instead

bot43 · 12-02-2019 8:00pm

So we are calling wrestlers by their given names now :rolleyes:

Necro · 12-02-2019 8:04pm

PTH2009 wrote:

christ imagine if we got Becky vs Nia at mania instead

Not happening. Maybe at Fastlane. Maybe.

Becky is definitely going to be in that match, I'd eat my hat and an assortment of other hats if she isn't.

Pentecost · 12-02-2019 8:28pm

Necro wrote: »

Not happening. Maybe at Fastlane. Maybe.

Becky is definitely going to be in that match, I'd eat my hat and an assortment of other hats if she isn't.

She’s 100% in the match and more than likely going to win. This is prime Mania build up season and they’re not going to waste their time pushing this story if they don’t have her in the plans. Nia is busy with the tag stuff (hopefully).

CastorTroy · 12-02-2019 8:44pm

Half expected Nia to be brought out instead of Charlotte

Mr.Nice Guy · 12-02-2019 11:56pm

sirmanga wrote: »

It either is a fictional TV show or it isn't. We can't have it both ways.

We have to though. That's the crazy thing about it. Ever see a WWE wrestler on a talk show like Conan O'Brien for example and there's this weird dynamic where they have to talk about their feud - fictional - and yet present it as if it's totally real? It's a weird hybrid and I think it has to be seen in that context.

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