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Calving camera

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  • #102
    Dozer1
    Registered Users Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭Dozer1


    thanks all got it with the below info got it sorted!
    appreciate all the help any one of you want to go into IT support in 3:):)


  • #103
    Gudstock
    Registered Users Posts: 182 ✭✭Gudstock


    Anyone have an approx idea of cost (or recommended supplier) of calving camera plus modem plus battery etc for an outfarm shed with no electricity?


  • #104
    valtra2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 739 ✭✭✭valtra2


    Guy on done deal selling calving cameras from laois area. Abosulate cowboy. Avoid. Pm me for details.


  • #105
    alps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,098 ✭✭✭alps


    Aldi have a 4 camera system for sale today for 200....looksto have all youd require...internet, recording, infrared etc


  • #106
    emaherx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    alps wrote: »
    Aldi have a 4 camera system for sale today for 200....looksto have all youd require...internet, recording, infrared etc

    Bought cheaper ones from Amazon less than 100 Euro and they are working fine. I'd say similar quality to the Aldi ones but came without a hard disk. Don't think recording is important for calving cameras and the power consumption will be lower too.


  • #107
    pms7
    Registered Users Posts: 474 ✭✭pms7


    I went with CCTVDirect.ie
    HIKVISON 2MP Darkfighter DS-2DE4215IW-DE 15 x Zoom 100m IR in Stock, The Kit Price Including all the cables etc, Ubiquiti Wireless Bridges and next day delivery costs €650.00 Inc Vat. This also comes with a 3 year warranty and unlimited technical Support
    I could sort old analogue cameras fine, but IP stuff bit behond me.. The night vision is super.
    Jonathan sorts everything for you by Teamviewer and gets back to you fast if any problems. Also the Hikvision app is very good. Has presets, can move to different areas by calling them, rarely use the moving function, find it awkward. Can also view on PC.


  • #108
    downcow
    Registered Users Posts: 11,629 ✭✭✭✭downcow


    patsy_mccabe wrote: »
    Put on the kettle for this one. Lots of reading;
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056741425

    I set up mine with 2 nanostations and a foscam camera about 5 years ago following the thread above. Cost me €200 at the time. Used it today and still going strong without any issues since.

    I also used two nano stations but I found getting them to connect to eachother a challenge and got a techy guy to help me set them up.
    Perfect internet from my house about 400m away, but i am told as long as they have clear line of sight they can run up to 13km.

    I got a lorex box and 8 cameras (about £350 for everything - nano stations were given to me free)
    Everything is working sweet after 2 years (and i dropped the box from 16ft unto concrete floor)

    I am in a small way of going but love them. I am a part-time farmer out at work but I have had 26 live calves out of 26 over last two years and the cameras are a big factor - I have been present at all 26 calvings.
    I have the app on my phone and check from anywhere - checking from bed on winter nights is a luxury. and night vision is amazing

    Everyone is different but i wouldn't even consider a ptz camera. I have every conceivable angle covered with my 8 cameras - no blind spots. If i had it to do again i might get 16 for about £500 all-in with box. still a fraction of the cost of one PTZ
    I can see them all at one a glance so it so easy to check when you wake up at 3am with a glance and roll over to sleep again.

    Setting them up was deadly simple and the bonus is that they watch for theives when not calving which you ptz won't do


  • #109
    Paddydans
    Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭Paddydans


    Hi,

    I have WiFi in the house about 50m from slatted shed. Just wondering what system I can put in place to view a calving camera on mobile phone which I won't have to top up. A step by step would be super??


  • #110
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Paddydans wrote: »
    Hi,

    I have WiFi in the house about 50m from slatted shed. Just wondering what system I can put in place to view a calving camera on mobile phone which I won't have to top up. A step by step would be super??
    If the shed is on the same power circuit as the shed, you can get an adapter 1 in the house & the other in the shed to extend the WiFi to the shed.
    Otherwise you’ll have to bring a cat5 cable from house to shed


  • #111
    Hard Knocks
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,080 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    From Paddys post
    Has anyone got multiple cameras connected via cat 5?
    How does your system work?


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  • #112
    M5
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,161 ✭✭✭✭M5


    All cameras are not the same. It's possible to install a system if Internet is present in the yard, using bargain basement cameras with 4 cameras with hardware costing about 150e

    If you add in router, antenna, quality camera with low light sensitivity and also bulletproof reliability a 4 camera setup hardware would easily hit 1200.

    I've installed both levels for various mates and a few mates of mates and have had no calls whatsoever from the lads who went for reliability and quality. Other lads have issues now and again and clarity, especially at night is way worse. You get what you pay for!

    Any hikvision camera with 0.005 lux sensitivity, or less, will be brilliant at night. 150-200e each for those though. There's a reason your locsl bank uses them though ;)


  • #113
    Paddydans
    Registered Users Posts: 29 ✭Paddydans


    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    If the shed is on the same power circuit as the shed, you can get an adapter 1 in the house & the other in the shed to extend the WiFi to the shed.
    Otherwise you’ll have to bring a cat5 cable from house to shed

    The shed is on a different power supply so it rules that out. Can I bounce the WiFi to the shed?


  • #114
    orm0nd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,232 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    Paddydans wrote: »
    The shed is on a different power supply so it rules that out. Can I bounce the WiFi to the shed?

    yes no problem,



  • #115
    edward901
    Registered Users Posts: 136 ✭✭edward901


    My shed is about 150 meters from the dwelling house with some buildings in the way.Will the Nano stations still work.


  • #116
    oneten
    Registered Users Posts: 174 ✭✭oneten


    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    From Paddys post
    Has anyone got multiple cameras connected via cat 5?
    How does your system work?[/QUOTE

    I use that kind of system , multiple cameras linked with cat 5 ,works good enough. It could be better , I used low quality cat 5 , didn't know the difference ,
    dont use cable stamped CCA , it means copper coated aluminium, its crap at distance


  • #117
    orm0nd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,232 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    oneten wrote: »
    Hard Knocks wrote: »
    From Paddys post
    Has anyone got multiple cameras connected via cat 5?
    How does your system work?[/QUOTE

    I use that kind of system , multiple cameras linked with cat 5 ,works good enough. It could be better , I used low quality cat 5 , didn't know the difference ,
    dont use cable stamped CCA , it means copper coated aluminium, its crap at distance

    +1

    and also in farm sheds use the industrial type with the heavy external coating.


  • #118
    funkey_monkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,431 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Hi, I've got the following cabling in the shed which is fed into the house. Can I still use this cable for a fresh camera setup?

    Sorry the photos aren't the best, the box is above the slats and the pen was full so I wasn't taking my time to take the photos.

    All I really need to know at this stage is if I can use this cabling to upgrade the camera with a wired connection into the house. I'll take it from there.


    Thanks.


  • #119
    emaherx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    funkey_monkey wrote: »
    Hi, I've got the following cabling in the shed which is fed into the house. Can I still use this cable for a fresh camera setup?

    Sorry the photos aren't the best, the box is above the slats and the pen was full so I wasn't taking my time to take the photos.

    All I really need to know at this stage is if I can use this cabling to upgrade the camera with a wired connection into the house. I'll take it from there.


    Thanks.

    Looks like network cable alright. Dose it sat cat5 or cat6 anywhere written on the cable? These would need to be terminated correctly at both ends, is no joins involving insulating tape.


    On a second look. Network cable will have an orange, green, blue and brown cable each with a white pair twisted to them possibly with a stripe of the same colours.

    The red and green wires are probable only phone cable if this is the one running back to the house it will be useless for network.


  • #120
    funkey_monkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,431 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    emaherx wrote: »
    Looks like network cable alright. Dose it sat cat5 or cat6 anywhere written on the cable? These would need to be terminated correctly at both ends, is no joins involving insulating tape.


    On a second look. Network cable will have an orange, green, blue and brown cable each with a white pair twisted to them possibly with a stripe of the same colours.

    The red and green wires are probable only phone cable if this is the one running back to the house it will be useless for network.

    I'll have to check in the morning. This has been installed for at least 20 years so it may be cat5 as opposed to cat5e.


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  • #121
    emaherx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    funkey_monkey wrote: »
    I'll have to check in the morning. This has been installed for at least 20 years so it may be cat5 as opposed to cat5e.

    Won't matter cat 5 will do for 100mbs. Unless you have 4K cameras I wouldn't worry about that. It's probably much quicker than your internet upload speed if you are intending on remote connection.


  • #122
    funkey_monkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,431 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Okay, I'm able to crimp proper terminals onto the cable, so in terms of cameras and receiver boxes what are popular?

    I want sound as well as vision. Are PTZ cameras worth it? I could cover pretty much all the shed with one but would a couple of fixed cameras come in cheaper?


  • #123
    emaherx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    funkey_monkey wrote: »
    Okay, I'm able to crimp proper terminals onto the cable, so in terms of cameras and receiver boxes what are popular?

    I want sound as well as vision. Are PTZ cameras worth it? I could cover pretty much all the shed with one but would a couple of fixed cameras come in cheaper?

    Hikvision are popular. But I use these cheap HD cameras.

    https://m.ebay.ie/itm/FLOUREON-CCTV-8CH-1080N-DVR-Recorder-1500TVL-Cameras-Outdoor-Security-System-Kit/223664036178?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item34136a5952:g:0d4AAOSwDhxd1kRM

    I've 8 of them setup in sheds plus 4 around the yard for security.

    A good quality PTZ camera is very flexible and may well have better night vision than my cheap cameras. But I use a sonoff 4ch networked smart switch to turn on shed lights if I need a better view.


  • #124
    funkey_monkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,431 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    emaherx wrote: »
    Hikvision are popular. But I use these cheap HD cameras.

    https://m.ebay.ie/itm/FLOUREON-CCTV-8CH-1080N-DVR-Recorder-1500TVL-Cameras-Outdoor-Security-System-Kit/223664036178?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item34136a5952:g:0d4AAOSwDhxd1kRM
    But I use a sonoff 4ch networked smart switch to turn on shed lights if I need a better view.

    You've got my interest now. I never considered this. I like the sound of this.

    How much of your setup is wireless?


  • #125
    keepalive213
    Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭keepalive213


    It's hard to beat a good ptz setup in a slatted shed, zoom in and read a tag in the dark, it's practically a DIY setup job if you are anyway technically adept.
    On calving pens it's a no brainer, what price is your peace of mind.


  • #126
    emaherx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    funkey_monkey wrote: »
    You've got my interest now. I never considered this. I like the sound of this.

    How much of your setup is wireless?

    Cameras all completely wired. I've network wired from house into garage and workshop then a wireless connection from workshop to cattle shed and all wired from there.


    This is the sonoff relay it controls 3 lighting circuits and my electric fence unit. I also have similar controlling roller doors.

    https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/333443674476


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  • #127
    emaherx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    keepalive213 wrote: »
    It's hard to beat a good ptz setup in a slatted shed, zoom in and read a tag in the dark, it's practically a DIY setup job if you are anyway technically adept.
    On calving pens it's a no brainer, what price is your peace of mind.

    I won't knock a PTZ, but I've every angle covered in open cow shed and 3 calving pens with fixed cameras. Not sure I need ability to read a tag in the dark, a cow either needs assistance or she doesn't won't matter her number. I got 8 cameras for under €150, night vision is fairly good as long as cow is not a red limousine on fresh straw (then she's invisible which is weird) but remote control of lights sorted that issue. I've only one red cow.


  • #128
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    emaherx wrote: »
    I won't knock a PTZ, but I've every angle covered in open cow shed and 3 calving pens with fixed cameras. Not sure I need ability to read a tag in the dark, a cow either needs assistance or she doesn't won't matter her number. I got 8 cameras for under €150, night vision is fairly good as long as cow is not a red limousine on fresh straw (then she's invisible which is weird) but remote control of lights sorted that issue. I've only one red cow.

    Would you not just leave lights on in a shed?


  • #129
    emaherx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    Would you not just leave lights on in a shed?

    Why? The cows don't need them, I know LED lights don't use as much electricity but I don't believe in wasting energy either.


  • #130
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    emaherx wrote: »
    Why? The cows don't need them, I know LED lights don't use as much electricity but I don't believe in wasting energy either.

    Ours left on all night in calving shed and cubicles


  • #131
    emaherx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    Ours left on all night in calving shed and cubicles

    That's ok, that's your farm, mine are on while needed. Maybe that's an area you could look at if you decide to try and cut your carbon footprint ;):D


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  • #132
    Gods Gift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    I leave lights on but they’re led battens and you wouldn’t really need them with my ptz camera in a 6 span lean to. Great camera.
    Got second one last year for a 6 span slatted shed which is beside the lean to.
    Didn’t know myself last year with them and hopefully get it up and goin on phone for this calving season. It’s the 5km wireless camera. You need line of sight though.

    Equicom in cork I bought it. Vat back.


  • #133
    GrasstoMilk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,119 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    emaherx wrote: »
    That's ok, that's your farm, mine are on while needed. Maybe that's an area you could look at if you decide to try and cut your carbon footprint ;):D

    LEDs;)
    I'd be afraid cows would get stuck in a cubicle or walk on another cow without them.
    Probably wrong on that though


  • #134
    emaherx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    GrasstoMilk wrote: »
    LEDs;)
    I'd be afraid cows would get stuck in a cubicle or walk on another cow without them.
    Probably wrong on that though

    I mentioned LED's before you :p they still use energy and depending how many you have on it could still be a fair bit. I do leave a few here in the yard on with dusk till Dawn switches for safety/security reasons but it's not the same level of light or power consumption as when the lights are "on"


  • #135
    keepalive213
    Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭keepalive213


    emaherx wrote: »
    I won't knock a PTZ, but I've every angle covered in open cow shed and 3 calving pens with fixed cameras. Not sure I need ability to read a tag in the dark, a cow either needs assistance or she doesn't won't matter her number. I got 8 cameras for under €150, night vision is fairly good as long as cow is not a red limousine on fresh straw (then she's invisible which is weird) but remote control of lights sorted that issue. I've only one red cow.

    A great deal in fairness.
    Any ip weather rating on those cameras I didn't see any.
    Dust can be an issue, the obvious dampness in sheds, steam off cattle, the dreaded spider webs


  • #136
    funkey_monkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,431 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    emaherx are you able to provide some details of how you integrate the lights in order to control them from anywhere?
    Have you setup a wireless network in your shed to control them?


  • #137
    emaherx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    funkey_monkey wrote: »
    emaherx are you able to provide some details of how you integrate the lights in order to control them from anywhere?
    Have you setup a wireless network in your shed to control them?

    Oh yes, I'd forgotten they were wifi. The router used as a wireless bridge also provides a WiFi hotspot. They have their own app ewelink it's called I don't personally use that but it works well but uses some Chinese server for authentication and remote access similar to P2P on the cameras. I use custom firmware called "tasmoto" I think and a local server running home assistant on a raspberry pi and then port forward on my router to give remote access.


  • #138
    Mortelaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    https://www.amazon.co.uk/PTZlink-Outdoor-Surveillance-Detection-Injector/dp/B07XJRQ9L8

    Considering one of those ptz cameras
    Seems to be all singing and dancing but too new for any reviews

    It comes with a poe injector which is handy,meaning just one cable run from the router

    Comments ?


  • #139
    emaherx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    keepalive213 wrote: »
    A great deal in fairness.
    Any ip weather rating on those cameras I didn't see any.
    Dust can be an issue, the obvious dampness in sheds, steam off cattle, the dreaded spider webs

    They are outdoor cameras, don't know the ip rating off the top of my head, but are up 3 years with no issues.


  • #140
    funkey_monkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,431 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/PTZlink-Outdoor-Surveillance-Detection-Injector/dp/B07XJRQ9L8

    Considering one of those ptz cameras
    Seems to be all singing and dancing but too new for any reviews

    It comes with a poe injector which is handy,meaning just one cable run from the router

    Comments ?

    The rotation speed seems to be 0.02deg/s. That seems slow, but I've not checked the speed of others yet.
    Might be more frustrating waiting on it to pan rather than switching to another camera.

    Edit : that is the fine adjustment. They can do up to 60deg/s max rotation speed.


  • #141
    funkey_monkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,431 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    emaherx wrote: »
    They are outdoor cameras, don't know the ip rating off the top of my head, but are up 3 years with no issues.

    Item description states they are IP66.


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  • #142
    keepalive213
    Closed Accounts Posts: 685 ✭✭✭keepalive213


    funkey_monkey wrote: »
    Item description states they are IP66.

    Serious value for money


  • #143
    funkey_monkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,431 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    Are the cameras mostly wired to avoid jammers or does it just make for a cheaper and more robust setup?


    emaherx, how have you housed your sonoff switch in the shed to make it waterproof but still be able to pick up the WiFi signal.
    Can they still pick it up through an IP66 weatherproof box?


  • #144
    emaherx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    funkey_monkey wrote: »
    Are the cameras mostly wired to avoid jammers or does it just make for a cheaper and more robust setup?


    emaherx, how have you housed your sonoff switch in the shed to make it waterproof but still be able to pick up the WiFi signal.
    Can they still pick it up through an IP66 weatherproof box?

    I usually hardwire everything where possible it's far more reliable and cheaper. The sonoff relay fits a standard din rail inside an ip rated consumer unit and is about 3 foot from router which is in an ip rated box so no signal issue.


  • #145
    emaherx
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,203 ✭✭✭emaherx


    keepalive213 wrote: »
    Serious value for money

    To be fair though they look and feel like cheap rubbish but they seem to work fine. Not sure how they will stand the test of time but they are so cheap.


  • #146
    downwiththatsor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 915 ✭✭✭downwiththatsor


    Can anyone recommend a good free or paid iPhone app for a foscam that allows the image to be zoomed as well as the camera to tilt and rotate etc.
    Also the apps must allow full screen autorotate on the iPhone.
    Thanks in advance


  • #147
    tanko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,291 ✭✭✭tanko


    downwiththatsor wrote: »
    Can anyone recommend a good free or paid iPhone app for a foscam that allows the image to be zoomed as well as the camera to tilt and rotate etc.
    Also the apps must allow full screen autorotate on the iPhone.
    Thanks in advance

    Does the Hubble camera app do all that?


  • #148
    downwiththatsor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 915 ✭✭✭downwiththatsor


    tanko wrote: »
    Does the Hubble camera app do all that?
    Will check it out thanks.


  • #149
    dohc turbo2
    Registered Users Posts: 848 ✭✭✭dohc turbo2


    downwiththatsor wrote: »
    Can anyone recommend a good free or paid iPhone app for a foscam that allows the image to be zoomed as well as the camera to tilt and rotate etc.
    Also the apps must allow full screen autorotate on the iPhone.
    Thanks in advance

    Ipcamvewer is perfect , the free version is fine , I have it myself ,


  • #150
    downwiththatsor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 915 ✭✭✭downwiththatsor


    dohc turbo2 wrote: »
    Ipcamvewer is perfect , the free version is fine , I have it myself ,

    Have ipcamviewer thanks but wont rotate or offer tilt, zoom rotate options on the iPhone whereas the android version of the app on a tablet does it all.
    You have it on iPhone?


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  • #151
    dohc turbo2
    Registered Users Posts: 848 ✭✭✭dohc turbo2


    downwiththatsor wrote: »
    Have ipcamviewer thanks but wont rotate or offer tilt, zoom rotate options on the iPhone whereas the android version of the app on a tablet does it all.
    You have it on iPhone?

    Ya I have on iPhone , my brother in law who runs the dns part of it for me uses it trough a samsung


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