Clongriffin - Parkedge

trooperdx3117 · 30-09-2018 5:59pm

kceire wrote: »

Usually there or there abouts. You house is so far off, there’s no way of knowing just yet. It may not even be started construction yet.

Ah fair, I think some of the houses are being built in the are we're buying although their literally just foundations and a few bits of walls at the moment.
I'm sure we're going to be dropping by a few times over the coming year to peek in on the progress.

Loughc wrote: »

Congrats on your purchase it’s an exciting time ahead for you.

We bought in Belltree in the last phase and we were told Sept/Oct move in date and we are moving in November with the delay being due to ESB so all in all they were fairly spot on.

Ah brilliant congrats, you must be excited to be moving in!

If ours is in line with that should be fine, we have our mortgage approval until Mid-August 2019, so hopefully we'll be done before then so we don't have to go through the rigmarole of getting all the documents and application together again!

Jwacqui · 30-09-2018 6:14pm

trooperdx3117 wrote: »

kceire wrote: »

Usually there or there abouts. You house is so far off, there’s no way of knowing just yet. It may not even be started construction yet.

Ah fair, I think some of the houses are being built in the are we're buying although their literally just foundations and a few bits of walls at the moment.
I'm sure we're going to be dropping by a few times over the coming year to peek in on the progress.

Loughc wrote: »

Congrats on your purchase it’s an exciting time ahead for you.

We bought in Belltree in the last phase and we were told Sept/Oct move in date and we are moving in November with the delay being due to ESB so all in all they were fairly spot on.

Ah brilliant congrats, you must be excited to be moving in!

If ours is in line with that should be fine, we have our mortgage approval until Mid-August 2019, so hopefully we'll be done before then so we don't have to go through the rigmarole of getting all the documents and application together again!

I’m LoughCs wife, we are snagging in 2 weeks, what street did you buy on?

trooperdx3117 · 30-09-2018 6:20pm

Jwacqui wrote: »

I’m LoughCs wife, we are snagging in 2 weeks, what street did you buy on?

We're going to be on Park Mews, I believe the plan is to extend park street out along with park terrace north/south. We'll be just off park street between it and park terrace south!

irishbigfoot · 01-10-2018 11:24am

trooperdx3117 wrote: »

Ah fair, I think some of the houses are being built in the are we're buying although their literally just foundations and a few bits of walls at the moment.
I'm sure we're going to be dropping by a few times over the coming year to peek in on the progress.

Ah brilliant congrats, you must be excited to be moving in!

If ours is in line with that should be fine, we have our mortgage approval until Mid-August 2019, so hopefully we'll be done before then so we don't have to go through the rigmarole of getting all the documents and application together again!

Congratulations trooperdx3117. Yep the foundations have gone down in that section and by the time they get further hopefully some of the roads will be opened up so you can stalk it from a closer position. We were there every couple of months to check the progress.

Ours was about 3 months later than expected- was supposed to be end of July but was end of October and didn't get keys until November as there was another couple weeks delay with a backlog in DCC to sign off on it.

We had to get an extension for the mortgage approval and I don't think there was too much of a problem as it was a new build...had a problem more with actually drawing down the mortgage as KBC kept on spelling Belltree with one L no matter how many times we told them it was wrong!

There is a FB group for Belltree/Parkedge that you can join as well and can be good for asking questions about furniture/flooring/appliances etc- just ask one of the admins as it's a closed group.

Loughc · 01-10-2018 11:31am

irishbigfoot wrote: »

We had to get an extension for the mortgage approval and I don't think there was too much of a problem as it was a new build...had a problem more with actually drawing down the mortgage as KBC kept on spelling Belltree with one L no matter how many times we told them it was wrong!

Our mortgage is with Bank Of Ireland and they keep spelling Clongriffin wrong... just the one f. And we've told them time after time as well. Must get onto them again to make sure it doesn't delay our drawdown, thanks!

trooperdx3117 · 01-10-2018 1:10pm

irishbigfoot wrote: »

Congratulations trooperdx3117. Yep the foundations have gone down in that section and by the time they get further hopefully some of the roads will be opened up so you can stalk it from a closer position. We were there every couple of months to check the progress.

Ours was about 3 months later than expected- was supposed to be end of July but was end of October and didn't get keys until November as there was another couple weeks delay with a backlog in DCC to sign off on it.

We had to get an extension for the mortgage approval and I don't think there was too much of a problem as it was a new build...had a problem more with actually drawing down the mortgage as KBC kept on spelling Belltree with one L no matter how many times we told them it was wrong!

There is a FB group for Belltree/Parkedge that you can join as well and can be good for asking questions about furniture/flooring/appliances etc- just ask one of the admins as it's a closed group.

Alright so definitely will need to watch out for spelling mistakes on all the documents, good to know! Ha

Cheer irishbigfoot, will defo join the group, might be able to get an idea on measurements as well since the realtor were a a little cagey with those details!

Alexanderis · 30-10-2018 12:35pm

Hi everyone,

First a big thanks to Volthar and kceire for answering my earlier question regarding insurance.
We moved in over the bank holiday weekend and two more questions have come up:

1. Can anyone recommend via PM me someone that can install an induction hob? The worktop isn't cut beforehand which is expected since Gannon don't know beforehand what size the hob will be and they will not cut it once the house is done.

2. I've read that all the RJ45s cables in the rooms lead to the small utility room together with the cabling for the alarm system, however the Virgin Media connection is in the living room(B3 house in my case). Are there anything obvious that I am missing or do I need to run a cable form the living room to the utility room in order to benefit from the network cabling already installed?
Only other alternative I see to this is to get a power-line adaptor and use that instead of running a cable through the walls.

irishbigfoot · 30-10-2018 3:38pm

Alexanderis wrote: »

Hi everyone,

First a big thanks to Volthar and kceire for answering my earlier question regarding insurance.
We moved in over the bank holiday weekend and two more questions have come up:

1. Can anyone recommend via PM me someone that can install an induction hob? The worktop isn't cut beforehand which is expected since Gannon don't know beforehand what size the hob will be and they will not cut it once the house is done.

2. I've read that all the RJ45s cables in the rooms lead to the small utility room together with the cabling for the alarm system, however the Virgin Media connection is in the living room(B3 house in my case). Are there anything obvious that I am missing or do I need to run a cable form the living room to the utility room in order to benefit from the network cabling already installed?
Only other alternative I see to this is to get a power-line adaptor and use that instead of running a cable through the walls.

Hi Alexanderis,

Head on over to Facebook and join the Belltree/Parkedge group- private but the admins are usually quick enough to accept.

Induction hobs themselves are easy to fit from what I remember- there is a socket under the counter and from what I recall you just plug it in (not 100% on that or if it needs to be hard wired). There is a carpenter in the FB group who is a resident (Stephen) and can cut out the secton for the hob.

There is also a detailed post in the group on how to finish the wiring for the cables- just do a search for RJ45 and it should come up. Essentially, if you take off the Virgin box there is a wire behind that you can bring out to connect the router to and this wire goes back to the utility room where you will need to install the switch box for all of the other connections.

Alexanderis · 30-10-2018 3:48pm

irishbigfoot wrote: »

Essentially, if you take off the Virgin box there is a wire behind that you can bring out to connect the router to and this wire goes back to the utility room where you will need to install the switch box for all of the other connections.

Oh wow....I would have never thought about checking that in a thousand years. They need to add instructions for that somewhere. Thanks for the hit. Now it makes sense a bit more.

Also I've sent the join request to the Facebook page and will check once its accepted.

ohlordy · 05-12-2018 12:02pm

Gannons have an info session arranged for next Monday, to update residents on the plans they are making to further develop the site
https://www.clongriffintown.ie/events/clongriffin-planning/

ohlordy · 10-12-2018 10:38pm

Having viewed the plans Gannons will be putting forward I will be making objections to the planning applications, and I will be getting involved with any efforts by locals to object en masse via petition etc.

The plans are basically as follows

Build to rent apartments on 80% of the site
2 smallish office blocks
3 part V social housing apartment blocks
An 8 screen cinema
A community centre, mens shed, plenty of ground floor commercial spaces on the streets intended as a commercial core

A large chunk of the plans will be going direct to Bord Pleanala for approval.

My objections (thus far) solely relate to the build to rent apartments. I do not believe a viable community can be created if there are to be zero owner-occupiers in a large area of the locale, not in the Irish context of attitudes to apartment dwelling and the lack of security of tenure for tenants. I believe it will lead to a largely transient population, staying for a small number of years each and moving on.

I do not have a figure for the number of overall apartments in the plans, but if there are 372 apartments in the new blocks under construction on Marrsfield Avenue then I dont think it can be less than 1000 and possibly 1500 total units in the plans. Possibly more?
This number of rented units will dwarf the rest of the existing community.

Housing policy has to include mixed types and tenures. These plans are not a mix.

trooperdx3117 · 11-12-2018 10:09pm

ohlordy wrote: »

Having viewed the plans Gannons will be putting forward I will be making objections to the planning applications, and I will be getting involved with any efforts by locals to object en masse via petition etc.

The plans are basically as follows

Build to rent apartments on 80% of the site
2 smallish office blocks
3 part V social housing apartment blocks
An 8 screen cinema
A community centre, mens shed, plenty of ground floor commercial spaces on the streets intended as a commercial core

A large chunk of the plans will be going direct to Bord Pleanala for approval.

My objections (thus far) solely relate to the build to rent apartments. I do not believe a viable community can be created if there are to be zero owner-occupiers in a large area of the locale, not in the Irish context of attitudes to apartment dwelling and the lack of security of tenure for tenants. I believe it will lead to a largely transient population, staying for a small number of years each and moving on.

I do not have a figure for the number of overall apartments in the plans, but if there are 372 apartments in the new blocks under construction on Marrsfield Avenue then I dont think it can be less than 1000 and possibly 1500 total units in the plans. Possibly more?
This number of rented units will dwarf the rest of the existing community.

Housing policy has to include mixed types and tenures. These plans are not a mix.

Thanks for updating on what is planned Lordy. Seems a bit bizarre that they would be announcing the building of a cinema without any retail stores around?

Is the plan just to have nothing but apartment blocks between around the area, are there plans for any retail, cafe's, pubs at all?

Regarding build to rent apartments i'm wondering what the potential alternative is? I understand that you can't build houses next to the Dart station anymore due to planning requirements for higher density housing.
If the apartments are purchased by a management company for all to rent then you would hope that they would be managed by competent company who will maintain the area and the building.

If you have just apartments to buy I would be afraid that a lot would just be bought up by absentee landlords who have no interest in maintaining the building. You could end up in a situation where its still full of renters but no one is actually maintaining the building.

Both situations don't seem ideal to be fair

, seems like the plan is just to make the place into a giant commuter estate.

vmb · 12-12-2018 10:42am

ohlordy wrote: »

My objections (thus far) solely relate to the build to rent apartments. I do not believe a viable community can be created if there are to be zero owner-occupiers in a large area of the locale, not in the Irish context of attitudes to apartment dwelling and the lack of security of tenure for tenants. I believe it will lead to a largely transient population, staying for a small number of years each and moving on.

Clongriffin resident here (house owner)

I do not understand either the idea about building communities in Clongriffin. This is not a small town where you know all your neighbours, Dublin is a european capital city.

Once all these new buildings are built and ocupied, we'll have three different areas:

"Old clongriffin", Beau Park, where there are a mix of home owners and tenants
Belltree, where home owners are still the biggest group. Some of these new homes will be rented though
New apartments, built to let

To me, this is not bad. It is far worse that there are not employers yet, so, during the day, Clongriffin activity is very low.

With some employers producing more activity, it could be more than just a commuter town

ohlordy · 12-12-2018 1:11pm

@Trooper: the plan does include commercial/retail units, concentrated on a pedestrian street running between station square and the end of Park Terrace South.

As i said my objection is not to apartments, it is to 100% build-to-lets. And I agree that an institution is likely to maintain the building well. I agree that if a block was sold in its individual units there is no control over how many are owner-occupied and how many are bought as investments by small-time landlords. But without a doubt some would be owner-occupied if an opportunity to buy was provided.

@vmb: My hopes for a community are not related to knowing everybody. My hope is that the town will prosper and grow and be populated with people who are invested in this being a success. I believe that in order for this to happen a high percentage of residents should be there for the long term, they see it as their home and they also want it to prosper. I am against a high number of build-to-lets as I believe that they will not provide for the numbers of people who will stay long term. Dublin may be a European capital city, but we do not have a tradition/practice of long-term rental tenancies. This may change in the future but I don't think Clongriffin should be a testing ground for this social change.

ohlordy · 12-12-2018 2:15pm

The attached pic is of the plan as displayed on Monday evening, I have shaded in pink all the blocks intended to be Buy-to-rent. I have also marked what else is in the plan.
This may not be 100% accurate, I have done it from memory, but I think it's close enough

pxdf9i5cmoavkz · 07-02-2019 11:35am

Clongriffin is rapidly heading downhill. It desperately needs gentrification to help move the pendulum from dump to "barely liveable if you squint your eyes hard enough". Grange Lodge avenue is starting to look like a halting site! There is household waste scattered everywhere on the road and dog poo bags left on the parking dividers. What the hell is wrong with people?! Why do they do this?

Before someone goes snowflake, yes, not everyone but we're vastly outnumbered by the filthy people. I'm getting tired of picking up trash outside my door every day. :mad:

Who is in charge of the area? I want to setup a scheduler to notify whoever needs to be notified to send someone through weekly.

Does anyone have any idea who Lenna/Leana is and why is this person a cracker?

Alexanderis · 09-02-2019 11:40am

Blake Noisy Kiln wrote: »

Clongriffin is rapidly heading downhill. It desperately needs gentrification to help move the pendulum from dump to "barely liveable if you squint your eyes hard enough". Grange Lodge avenue is starting to look like a halting site! There is household waste scattered everywhere on the road and dog poo bags left on the parking dividers. What the hell is wrong with people?! Why do they do this?

Before someone goes snowflake, yes, not everyone but we're vastly outnumbered by the filthy people. I'm getting tired of picking up trash outside my door every day. :mad:

Who is in charge of the area? I want to setup a scheduler to notify whoever needs to be notified to send someone through weekly.

Does anyone have any idea who Lenna/Leana is and why is this person a cracker?

We moved in a few months ago and our experience is nowhere near yours. Its been windy the last few weeks and trash might be flying around due to unsecured bins but still, people pick up after themselfs and its very clean and your description is just incorrect.
Thanks.

Loughc · 09-02-2019 11:42am

Alexanderis wrote: »

We moved in a few months ago and our experience is nowhere near yours. Its been windy the last few weeks and trash might be flying around due to unsecured bins but still, people pick up after themselfs and its very clean and your description is just incorrect.
Thanks.

Same been living here since last November no issues at all.

Volthar · 20-02-2019 8:13pm

I belive Zyron refers to "old" part of Clongriffin that would defo benefit of some TLC. I do not know why this is happening but if I had to guess:
1. Kids that were born there when it was new are now teenagers and reck the place.
2. High saturation of people in rented accomodation + landlords who do not care about how the place looks like as long as they can charge top dollar and there are queues of tennants.
3. Sadly, gangs of teenagers drifting between dart, park, chipper and Donaghmede do not give a flying fook and toss they litter as if this act of rebellion gave them some street cred.

Volthar · 19-03-2019 5:08pm

18th March - Fr. Collins Park and nearby area witnessed anti social behaviour at its worst... regular battle between youth gangs, intimidation, vomit, broken glass, cars keyed, house broken into in broad daylight !!!! with owners inside... place turns to a kip. Features that should be key to estate's success (Dart, park) seem to be a magnet for unwanted criminal element and reason for the place's demise.

Loughc · 19-03-2019 5:17pm

Volthar wrote: »

18th March - Fr. Collins Park and nearby area witnessed anti social behaviour at its worst... regular battle between youth gangs, intimidation, vomit, broken glass, cars keyed, house broken into in broad daylight !!!! with owners inside... place turns to a kip. Features that should be key to estate's success (Dart, park) seem to be a magnet for unwanted criminal element and reason for the place's demise.

A couple of events like this hardly gives grounds to call it a kip, last year a group of teens got off a bus in Portmarnock attacked other teens did criminal damage to a chipper and slashed a teen in the face and robbed him and Portmarnock is hardly considered a kip or in demise since.

Anti-Social behavour is increasing everywhere not just Clongriffin.

Volthar · 19-03-2019 5:24pm

Loughc wrote:

A couple of events like this hardly gives grounds to call it a kip, last year a group of teens got off a bus in Portmarnock attacked other teens did criminal damage to a chipper and slashed a teen in the face and robbed him and Portmarnock is hardly considered a kip or in demise since.

Loughc wrote:

Anti-Social behavour is increasing everywhere not just Clongriffin.

Perhaps calling it a kip is overreaction but it is getting worse. The park is regularily wrecked, toilets closed for years due to vandalism, playground equipment pissed on or set on fire. Sheltered benches are only ever used by youth delinquents, no week without something dodgy happening here. Wait for summer...

Loughc · 19-03-2019 5:27pm

Volthar wrote: »

Perhaps calling it a kip is overreaction but it is getting worse. The park is regularily wrecked, toilets closed for years due to vandalism, playground equipment pissed on or set on fire. Sheltered benches are only ever used by youth delinquents, no week without something dodgy happening here. Wait for summer...

Oh it's absolutely getting worse... but it's not the locals fault, the Parkedge/Belltree neighborhoods are lovely themselves with lovely people living there.

Best thing to do is for us to keep the Garda informed and hopefully they'll sent more resources up to patrol the area, especially in the summer.

pxdf9i5cmoavkz · 19-03-2019 5:48pm

Loughc wrote: »

Anti-Social behavour is increasing everywhere not just Clongriffin.

Yes and? What's your point?

This type of reasoning is one thing that I have never understood. Who cares that "everywhere else" is seeing an increase in anti-social behaviour. No place should be seeing it and I'm happy to be a selfish prick and not want it to happen in the area that I live.

Last Friday while walking back from the train station a scrote was doing his "fortnite" dances (which is perfectly fine!) and then proceeded to kick the door to the elevator twice (not fine). The <beep> needs a slap upside the head.

Alexanderis wrote:

We moved in a few months ago and our experience is nowhere near yours. Its been windy the last few weeks and trash might be flying around due to unsecured bins but still, people pick up after themselfs and its very clean and your description is just incorrect.
Thanks.

I am becoming more convinced every day that there is something in the water that is preventing people from seeing litter on the ground. The simple act of opening my door means I'll be greeted by some new litter.

Do you take the train? I'm sure you noticed the trash thrown out last week Friday and as a matter of fact, today just outside of Romayo's the bin there had trash lying all around it.

Loughc · 19-03-2019 6:31pm

Blake Noisy Kiln wrote: »

Yes and? What's your point?

My point was to the other's poster comment that Clongriffin is a kip because of one incident over the past weekend. It's not just Clongriffin it's everywhere so it's harsh to target one area and call it a kip when the people living there aren't the ones who are making it a kip and yes I don't want it in my area either, and I've taken action about it too, I've rang the Gardas, e-mailed Councillors helped petition for Garda Station.

Nanazolie · 19-03-2019 6:43pm

I hope all of you who feel concerned by the events of the weekend will attend tonight's forum with dcc and the gardai?
7.30pm at The Junction

Volthar · 19-03-2019 6:55pm

Blake Noisy Kiln wrote:

I am becoming more convinced every day that there is something in the water that is preventing people from seeing litter on the ground. The simple act of opening my door means I'll be greeted by some new litter.

I am with you. Start noticing it in the "new" part as well. Scrots going past dropping lucozade bottles and chipper bags is not cool but residents attitude is ****e too. I seem to be the only person on the street picking the trash up. Neighbors are giving me strange looks and even my wife says I am mad. People would rather wait for wind to take rubbish away than lower themselves and pickitthefookup... blue bloods I suppose.

Nanazolie · 19-03-2019 9:25pm

It was really localised, though. We are in the older part of Clongriffin, and we didn't have any trouble this weekend. Not even the odd fire alarm going off. My daughter was out with her friends, there wasn't any trouble on the green. It used to be a hanging spot in the early days before the park, but it's now moved to the park

Loughc · 19-03-2019 10:29pm

So the lesson from that meeting is if you see anything ring it in. The more calls the better.

Volthar · 19-03-2019 10:40pm

Loughc wrote:

So the lesson from that meeting is if you see anything ring it in. The more calls the better.

This was a bizarre suggestion by the Garda. If we follow this advise we can easily clog their phone lines and break the system! Potentially putting someone else in harms way.

Loughc · 19-03-2019 10:46pm

Volthar wrote: »

This was a bizarre suggestion by the Garda. If we follow this advise we can easily clog their phone lines and break the system! Potentially putting someone else in harms way.

999 can take up to 100’s of calls at anyone time which would be more than the area would produce seeing as only 9 people rang that last incident in.

Nanazolie · 20-03-2019 8:42am

Loughc wrote: »

999 can take up to 100’s of calls at anyone time which would be more than the area would produce seeing as only 9 people rang that last incident in.

And there lies the problem. People don't ring because gardai don't turn up. Or take ages to. Then calls are not recorded and the stats show that there are little issues in the area, not enough to call for a new garda station.

Loughc · 20-03-2019 9:05am

Nanazolie wrote: »

And there lies the problem. People don't ring because gardai don't turn up. Or take ages to. Then calls are not recorded and the stats show that there are little issues in the area, not enough to call for a new garda station.

We can change that mentality. I called both Sunday and Monday and will call anything else dodgy in. Our neighbors called as well and will going forward. The more calls will result in a larger and therefore quicker response.

rahzor · 20-03-2019 9:31am

Volthar wrote: »

I am with you. Start noticing it in the "new" part as well. Scrots going past dropping lucozade bottles and chipper bags is not cool but residents attitude is ****e too. I seem to be the only person on the street picking the trash up. Neighbors are giving me strange looks and even my wife says I am mad. People would rather wait for wind to take rubbish away than lower themselves and pickitthefookup... blue bloods I suppose.

Edit: forgot to add ever present dog faeces.

Painting all residents with the same brush... a bit of a generalisation. My partner and I (and our neighbours!) always clean up the trash outside our homes, and cleaned up a huge amount in the park on Monday also. It's very easy to come online and thrash the area, the residents etc when you obviously live there- nobody's gaining anything from your negative press. Go do something proactive like setting up a tidy towns committee instead of hiding behind a keyboard and giving out yards... there are a lot of people in the area doing their best in holding events for kids at halloween and Christmas, setting up the neighbourhood watch, garnering support for a garda station in the area, creating a resident's association- but you don't seem to bother to mention the positives. If people aren't proactive in bettering an area, it will go to the dogs, and you're as much to blame as anyone by not being proactive about it.

Nanazolie · 20-03-2019 9:37am

rahzor wrote: »

Painting all residents with the same brush... a bit of a generalisation. My partner and I (and our neighbours!) always clean up the trash outside our homes, and cleaned up a huge amount in the park on Monday also. It's very easy to come online and thrash the area, the residents etc when you obviously live there- nobody's gaining anything from your negative press. Go do something proactive like setting up a tidy towns committee instead of hiding behind a keyboard and giving out yards... there are a lot of people in the area doing their best in holding events for kids at halloween and Christmas, setting up the neighbourhood watch, garnering support for a garda station in the area, creating a resident's association- but you don't seem to bother to mention the positives. If people aren't proactive in bettering an area, it will go to the dogs, and you're as much to blame as anyone by not being proactive about it.

10000%. I'm blue in the face calling for volunteers to our events, and a handful shows up. But when it comes to complaining, there is always many up for it.

Col_30 · 20-03-2019 11:05am

Volthar wrote: »

This was a bizarre suggestion by the Garda. If we follow this advise we can easily clog their phone lines and break the system! Potentially putting someone else in harms way.

It's much more useful to inform the Gardai of anti-social behavior in your area rather than moaning about it on the internet

irishbigfoot · 20-03-2019 12:57pm

Loughc wrote: »

999 can take up to 100’s of calls at anyone time which would be more than the area would produce seeing as only 9 people rang that last incident in.

Judging from the reactions of some of the people in the room when they said only 9 calls had come in- I don't think some of the calls to the station directly were counted. Have been suggestions about getting the badge number of the person you're talking to so it can be followed up statistics wise at the Neighborhood Watch meetings. You could also ask for the log number for the incident but at the station they may not be inputting into Pulse.

From what I have seen over various groups- it's suggested to phone 999 and not the station directly- phoning 999 means they have to put it into Pulse so the stats will be more realistic. TBH- we shouldn't have to worry about stats but that is what management look at so need to keep the numbers up if we want the resources available.

Parovoz · 20-03-2019 1:00pm

Hello,
Sorry it is not related to the latest comments.
I am very new to this forum and looking for some advises of current residents of Belltree development.
Currently we are on cancellation list fir the latest phase and wondering if any of You bought a house off cancellation list just to know if we have a chance?Also we are not the 1st time buyers and would have to sell our current home in order to buy a new one which make it a bit complicated, again if anybody had a similar experience please?
Many thanks in advance

irishbigfoot · 20-03-2019 1:41pm

Parovoz wrote: »

Hello,
Sorry it is not related to the latest comments.
I am very new to this forum and looking for some advises of current residents of Belltree development.
Currently we are on cancellation list fir the latest phase and wondering if any of You bought a house off cancellation list just to know if we have a chance?Also we are not the 1st time buyers and would have to sell our current home in order to buy a new one which make it a bit complicated, again if anybody had a similar experience please?
Many thanks in advance

Hi Parovoz- we were lucky enough to get a cancellation in the first phase but at that point there wasn't a list. I would be in contact with Sherry Fitz (or whoever the agent now is) every week to check on the status of the list and to make sure you don't fall between the cracks.

It shouldn't matter to the agent if you're a first time buyer or not as long as you have the money for the deposit...but saying that it depends on the terms of your mortgage approval. I would get this checked out now since Sherry Fitz actually wouldn't let us put down a deposit until a property was sale agreed...this delayed us for about 5 months which is how we got a cancellation and not the house we were originally going for.

Parovoz · 20-03-2019 2:27pm

Thank you for reply!
I am ringing to SherryFitzgerald every day and i think all the sale agents can recognize my voice at this stage, but no cancellations so far:(.
Glad to know there is a possibility to get a house, might be lucky as you have

.
I was told by sale agent at a showhouse those houses were for the 1st or cash buyers and the 2nd times buyers had no chances as sale agreed+mortgage approval must have! SherryFitzgerlad at Sutton Cross jumped in to sell our current house for us to chance it to get a cancellation later with the sale agreed. Which would leave us homeless basically because there is no guarantee there will be a house to buy...
May be its better for us to wait for a 2nd hand house instead of going through the stress with the new one..

Nanazolie · 20-03-2019 2:52pm

Parovoz wrote: »

Thank you for reply!
I am ringing to SherryFitzgerald every day and i think all the sale agents can recognize my voice at this stage, but no cancellations so far:(.
Glad to know there is a possibility to get a house, might be lucky as you have .
I was told by sale agent at a showhouse those houses were for the 1st or cash buyers and the 2nd times buyers had no chances as sale agreed+mortgage approval must have! SherryFitzgerlad at Sutton Cross jumped in to sell our current house for us to chance it to get a cancellation later with the sale agreed. Which would leave us homeless basically because there is no guarantee there will be a house to buy...
May be its better for us to wait for a 2nd hand house instead of going through the stress with the new one..

It may not be what you are looking for, but there is a house in the older part of Clongriffin. Close to the dart station, but far enough that you don't hear trains or announcements. Beaupark Street. It's a 3 storey house. I haven't seen it inside.

Parovoz · 20-03-2019 3:20pm

I am afraid i am only interested in new developments, that the whole reason in changing the house. Also the older part of Clongriffin doesnt look attractive and safe enough... We live at Red Arches just cross the tracks and very familiar with the area. But thank you for letting me know.

irishbigfoot · 20-03-2019 4:38pm

Parovoz wrote: »

Thank you for reply!
I am ringing to SherryFitzgerald every day and i think all the sale agents can recognize my voice at this stage, but no cancellations so far:(.
Glad to know there is a possibility to get a house, might be lucky as you have .
I was told by sale agent at a showhouse those houses were for the 1st or cash buyers and the 2nd times buyers had no chances as sale agreed+mortgage approval must have! SherryFitzgerlad at Sutton Cross jumped in to sell our current house for us to chance it to get a cancellation later with the sale agreed. Which would leave us homeless basically because there is no guarantee there will be a house to buy...
May be its better for us to wait for a 2nd hand house instead of going through the stress with the new one..

Yes not a great situation to be in- we were helped by the fact that we had decided to rent beforehand and were able to extend the rental period with the landlord since it was finished about 3 months late. Good luck and hopefully you get something soon!

Parovoz · 20-03-2019 5:11pm

irishbigfoot wrote: »

Yes not a great situation to be in- we were helped by the fact that we had decided to rent beforehand and were able to extend the rental period with the landlord since it was finished about 3 months late. Good luck and hopefully you get something soon!

Many thanks for sharing your experience and useful advices! Will hope for the best:).And in case someone is planning to sell the house at Belltree please let me know:).Best regards.

Volthar · 04-04-2019 7:22pm

Good to see positive things happening in the neighborhood. Scouts already operate from the Junction and soon another youth organisation will be here. At least some of our local kids will have something other than loitering to do.

Nanazolie · 04-04-2019 10:32pm

Not to forget the coming Street Feast

ohlordy · 04-09-2019 11:45am

The full Strategic Housing Development applications for the remainder of the Clongriffin site have been published, applications to ABP (and to DCC for a portion of plan) are imminent.

Available to view at

https://www.clongriffinshd1.ie/
https://www.clongriffinshd2.ie/

The headline figures in total are 1950 apartments in total plus some offices and a cinema and commercial units at ground floors for shops/restaurants/cafes etc. Some of the plan overwrites existing granted planning permissions which is why the total number of apartments is approx 400 more than when the plan was initially announced last December.

The controversial aspects of the plan seem to be that 66% are to be Build to Rent

Parking allowance is provided at a rate of 0.71 spaces per apartment. The applicants have discussed this figure with DCC in advance of application and DCC agreed that a maximum provision of 0.75 spaces per unit was acceptable. The 0.71 spaces provision includes on street and off street parking, when off street alone is counted the rate drops to 0.51 spaces per unit. As the on street spaces will be available to all there are fears that the larger area will become flooded with residents cars with no other options.
As DCC have already agreed that the car parking provision is adequate what is the likelihood that ABP will decide that it isn't.

I understand that the low rate of parking provision is allowed for based on location/transport options etc but it seems to me to be fairly optimistic that residents will only own cars at a rate of only half a car per unit

Loughc · 04-09-2019 12:29pm

ohlordy wrote: »

I understand that the low rate of parking provision is allowed for based on location/transport options etc but it seems to me to be fairly optimistic that residents will only own cars at a rate of only half a car per unit

Yes that is too optimistic especially when you consider how over crowded and in general poor the public transport options are.

It shouldn't matter cause one the apartments in Marsfield open and these get the go ahead with no infrastructure improvements to the road network the entire town will be one big car park.

Volthar · 06-09-2019 7:03pm

Greed in a pure form. When we asked why there are only 50 spaces for 80 apartments in the new social block, they said that these are people on low income and wont have any cars! Arrogant bastards.

I suppose lack of facilities in the area can be explained: these are buy to rent properties, residents will pay extortionate rents and won't be able to afford going to coffee shops, cinema or pub. Maybe they should setup a soup kitchen instead? ...wait... they may actualy steal this idea...

Volthar · 06-09-2019 7:06pm

ohlordy wrote:

I understand that the low rate of parking provision is allowed for based on location/transport options etc but it seems to me to be fairly optimistic that residents will only own cars at a rate of only half a car per unit

My experience living in apartment blocks is that there are 1.5 cars per unit.
Gannon and politicians treat people like idiots. Money money money moooooore!

Clongriffin - Parkedge

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