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The Ray D'Arcy Show Thread - Mod note Post # 1 Updated

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    #5222
    _feedback_
    Registered Users Posts: 4,269 ✭✭✭_feedback_


    Wow,

    Had a listen back after reading the comments here. Another woeful display from Darcy..

    Fair play to Shatter for keeping his cool during that, because he didn't have a minute. Having listened to it all, I got very little of any of the points that Shatter made.

    Is that not the point of an interview? Bring him in and get some answers to some questions that everyone would like to hear?

    His tone was terrible the whole way through. He uses this dismissive "yeah yeah and hmm hmm" while clearly not listening to the ministers response.

    Shatter didn't give Darcy any reason to take the approach he did. I can understand an interviewer getting a bit persistent when they are getting absolutely nowhere after giving the interviewee time, but Darcy was just being ridiculous.

    One exchange went:

    Darcy: "Who makes that decision?"

    Shatter: "Firstly, ... "

    Darcy: (interrupting) "Who makes that decision?"

    (repeated about 6 times)

    Rude, uninformative, irritating to listen to and a waste of an opportunity to have half an hour with a minister.


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    #5223
    threein99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,596 ✭✭✭threein99


    _feedback_ wrote: »
    Wow,

    Had a listen back after reading the comments here. Another woeful display from Darcy..

    Fair play to Shatter for keeping his cool during that, because he didn't have a minute. Having listened to it all, I got very little of any of the points that Shatter made.

    Is that not the point of an interview? Bring him in and get some answers to some questions that everyone would like to hear?

    His tone was terrible the whole way through. He uses this dismissive "yeah yeah and hmm hmm" while clearly not listening to the ministers response.

    Shatter didn't give Darcy any reason to take the approach he did. I can understand an interviewer getting a bit persistent when they are getting absolutely nowhere after giving the interviewee time, but Darcy was just being ridiculous.

    One exchange went:

    Darcy: "Who makes that decision?"

    Shatter: "Firstly, ... "

    Darcy: (interrupting) "Who makes that decision?"

    (repeated about 6 times)

    Rude, uninformative, irritating to listen to and a waste of an opportunity to have half an hour with a minister.

    Sums it up perfectly, he just attacks from the off. Shatter had him in his pocket


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    #5224
    southeastg
    Registered Users Posts: 78 ✭✭southeastg


    I was interested to see how ppl saw that interview, I was pleased that Ray was willing to get tough with Shatter ( sniggering childishlly Shatter teheee) especially after a soft start with his soft porn novel. I think Ray believes he is the people's champion in some very misguided way. Yet he is condescending at best. He has appalling interviewing skills and could really do with getting lessons. I mean its like an accountant not being able to balance the books or a radio DJ not being able to use the stations computer system ;) . Couldn't wait to get the dig in with mairead saying she had someone doing it for him .


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    #5225
    Meangadh
    Registered Users Posts: 3,963 ✭✭✭Meangadh


    Disco Stuart wrote: »
    OK, it's Friday so I'm going to be positive (I'm not a particular fan of Ray's and the "stop eject" thing does annoy me):

    A friend of mine was in the studio a couple of months ago with Ray, Ray interviewed him about a geocaching charity event he was running.

    Was chatting to him afterwards and asked him how Ray was, both on and off air, and he said Ray was a top guy, really genuine and easy interview. I was suitably surprised, but there you go!

    I've met him a few times (although not for a few years now) and I have to say any time I met him he was really really sound, very polite and very humble. Good craic as well.

    I used to absolutely LOVE his show, it was always so lighthearted and fun. I know as a broadcaster sometimes it's nice to get your teeth stuck into something a bit more serious than Fix it Friday or whatever, but then if that's what you want, move into a different kind of job. Or if you do want to mix both, then when you're doing the serious stuff, allow the person to have their say, even if it's not what you agree with. Shouting someone down is not good interviewing.

    It's funny because in person he doesn't seem the type to be so stubborn and preachy, but it does come across that way on his show. As I said though, I do think he's a nice person overall.


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    #5226
    _feedback_
    Registered Users Posts: 4,269 ✭✭✭_feedback_


    Disco Stuart wrote: »
    A friend of mine was in the studio a couple of months ago with Ray, Ray interviewed him about a geocaching charity event he was running.

    Was chatting to him afterwards and asked him how Ray was, both on and off air, and he said Ray was a top guy, really genuine and easy interview. I was suitably surprised, but there you go!

    I'm sure he's a nice guy and grand to have a chat with. The type of interview you talk about, he's good at (most of the time). He just has the chat with everyday people.

    The problems come when he has a *celebrity or a "serious" interview like today where he just destroys it with his own preconceptions or these ridiculous crusades "for the people" ie. him putting himself across as the voice of the entire nation.

    *this is basically any person who is remotely well known and not the average Joe. These can often be recognised by Ray questioning their height and how much money they earn.
    southeastg wrote: »
    He has appalling interviewing skills and could really do with getting lessons.

    Saying he should have lessons is like saying that Rory McIlroy should go and get a few lessons on how to hold a golf club. This guy is in the top commercial spot in radio, it's mad :pac::confused:


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    #5227
    Lelantos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭Lelantos


    _feedback_ wrote: »
    I'm sure he's a nice guy and grand to have a chat with. The type of interview you talk about, he's good at (most of the time). He just has the chat with everyday people.

    The problems come when he has a *celebrity or a "serious" interview like today where he just destroys it with his own preconceptions or these ridiculous crusades "for the people" ie. him putting himself across as the voice of the entire nation.

    *this is basically any person who is remotely well known and not the average Joe. These can often be recognised by Ray questioning their height and how much money they earn.



    Saying he should have lessons is like saying that Rory McIlroy should go and get a few lessons on how to hold a golf club. This guy is in the top commercial spot in radio, it's mad :pac::confused:

    and if his listening numbers drop significantly, or there are major complaints to the broadcast ombudsman, then he may get the can. But chances are, if anything, his numbers will increase & advertising revenue will increase.


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    #5228
    Jason Todd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Jason Todd


    Just on 'that' Seinfeld interview, (if you're a fan) here's how it's done:



    :pac:


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    #5229
    crazygeryy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭crazygeryy


    Jason Todd wrote: »
    Just on 'that' Seinfeld interview, (if you're a fan) here's how it's done:



    :pac:

    anyone have a link to darcy interviewing seinfeld I've never heard it.


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    #5230
    StewartGriffin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,284 ✭✭✭StewartGriffin


    eisenberg1 wrote: »
    The suggestion was to get just two or three mates together........I reckon he does not have two or three mates for a stag

    Choclate willies and Mairaids very false laugh FFS!!

    In fairness, she does have a great pair of tits.


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    #5231
    Lelantos
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,612 ✭✭✭Lelantos


    StewartGriffin wrote: »
    In fairness, she does have a great pair of tits.

    Ray & Will?


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    #5232
    StewartGriffin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,284 ✭✭✭StewartGriffin


    Addle wrote: »
    They'll probably inexplicably use that interview to advertise the show, like they did with the interview with healy-rae.

    Exactly what I thought. They will cut and paste it to show him as a hard man in order to lure more listeners.


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    #5233
    More Music
    Registered Users Posts: 869 ✭✭✭More Music


    Shatter like all ministers can never give a straight answer. They go off on tangents refusing to answer tough questions directly.

    "We can't legislate for fatal feotal abnormalities because it would require a referendum."

    Who calls a referendum FFS.

    I was a bit just a little bit surprised at the "you're talking ****" comment. Ray was probably getting annoyed at Shatter ignoring his questions though.


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    #5234
    heyheyhey1982
    Closed Accounts Posts: 433 ✭✭heyheyhey1982


    I dip in and out of the show but I mostly hate it. I find Ray impossible to like, and I loved him on the den but god he's turned into a moan and a preacher. He's a pain in the Swiss roll, the fun is gone out of the show. I don't recognise the same man who dealt with Dustin and zig and zag, is like he's 90 years of age. And he needs to learn how to use his mixing desk. It's just not funny Any more, its incompetence.


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    #5235
    Jason Todd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Jason Todd


    Lelantos wrote: »
    Ray & Will?

    :D:D:D:D:D:D


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    #5236
    eisenberg1
    Registered Users Posts: 5,387 ✭✭✭eisenberg1


    "WHO MAKES THE DECISION?" repeat several times....A bully without a doubt! A total waste of what could have a good interview, Darcy came across as a complete planker, again. I think he thinks he Paxman. I have no time for Shatter, but how he did not kick darcy in the balls I will never know.


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    #5237
    fleck
    Registered Users Posts: 47 ✭fleck


    More Music wrote: »
    Shatter like all ministers can never give a straight answer. They go off on tangents refusing to answer tough questions directly.

    "We can't legislate for fatal feotal abnormalities because it would require a referendum."

    Who calls a referendum FFS.

    It's not that simple. The minister knows it would be very difficult to get an abortion referendum passed, they barely got the childrens rights referendum accepted.
    The last abortion referendum was defeated by campaigns against by both pro-life and pro-choice groups because they viewed it as either too liberal or conservative. With the existence of such divergent views along with anti-government feelings how would they get any referendum passed?

    Maybe the minster could have explained this if he was given a chance, see david mitchell's soapbox on this poor interviewing style http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZl7oCPcTqU


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    #5238
    Swiper the fox
    Registered Users Posts: 6,745 ✭✭✭Swiper the fox


    D'arcy's audience, if his texters are anything to go by(I listen in for a bit each day to bring up the blood pressure a bit) are worse than the lowest common denominator in that they think they something about politics, democracy and general current affairs when in fact they haven't a clue and the Ray D'arcy show is where they get their news.

    What was the text reaction to his disgraceful treatment of the minister for justice? Any journalist knows that you need to treat your interviewee with a modicum of respect, lately D'arcy is completely ignoring this, I'm not sure if it started with Danny Healy Rae or if it was going on before that but someone needs to have a word with him in this respect.


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    #5239
    Swiper the fox
    Registered Users Posts: 6,745 ✭✭✭Swiper the fox


    crazygeryy wrote: »
    anyone have a link to darcy interviewing seinfeld I've never heard it.


    http://media.todayfm.com/podcast/61849/?uniqueID=28877


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    #5240
    For Forks Sake
    Registered Users Posts: 11,471 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    eisenberg1 wrote: »
    "WHO MAKES THE DECISION?" repeat several times....A bully without a doubt! A total waste of what could have a good interview, Darcy came across as a complete planker, again. I think he thinks he Paxman. I have no time for Shatter, but how he did not kick darcy in the balls I will never know.

    Darcy lives in his constituency afaik. Probably not advisable to boot one of his constituents, no matter how rude. :D


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    #5241
    6781
    Closed Accounts Posts: 431 ✭✭6781


    That Shatter interview was one of the worst interviews I've ever heard. I can't stand Shatter but he came out of that interview sounding good.


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    #5242
    BPKS
    Registered Users Posts: 16,692 ✭✭✭✭BPKS


    6781 wrote: »
    That Shatter interview was one of the worst interviews I've ever heard. I can't stand Shatter but he came out of that interview sounding good.

    Which is exactly why Ray should leave the political interviews to Matt Cooper.

    A few weeks ago Ray proclaimed that we should know our limitations. I hope he heeds his own advice after listening back to that interview.


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    #5243
    trickymicky
    Registered Users Posts: 88 ✭✭trickymicky


    Swiper the fox wrote: »
    D'arcy's audience, if his texters are anything to go by(I listen in for a bit each day to bring up the blood pressure a bit) are worse than the lowest common denominator in that they think they something about politics, democracy and general current affairs when in fact they haven't a clue and the Ray D'arcy show is where they get their news.

    What was the text reaction to his disgraceful treatment of the minister for justice? Any journalist knows that you need to treat your interviewee with a modicum of respect, lately D'arcy is completely ignoring this, I'm not sure if it started with Danny Healy Rae or if it was going on before that but someone needs to have a word with him in this respect.


    Only really noticed it the other day when i listened to the podcast with paul williams. Anytime he asked paul a question he answered it for him which i thought was unbelievably ignorant and when paul somehow managed to actually get his answer in he blatantly ignored his opinion. Im sorry but what a prick!


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    #5244
    swiftman
    Registered Users Posts: 697 ✭✭✭swiftman


    there is nothing more depressing then listening to people talking about depression first thing in the morning


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    #5245
    6781
    Closed Accounts Posts: 431 ✭✭6781


    swiftman wrote: »
    there is nothing more depressing then listening to people talking about depression first thing in the morning

    Along with his intro moan for 20 minutes, it's all a bit tiresome. I think the radio at work will have a accidental fall soon.


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    #5246
    eisenberg1
    Registered Users Posts: 5,387 ✭✭✭eisenberg1


    swiftman wrote: »
    there is nothing more depressing then listening to people talking about depression first thing in the morning

    Nobody like Ray to cheer you up, next item will probably be lotto winners, "tactful" as ever.

    Yesterday he was bitchin about "the whole modern thing" about tweetin and facebook etc and how "it's not acceptable"......wait till his own kids are 15, and out for dinner with him prattling on, with heads stuck in some device talking to mates and chewing the sleeves off their hoodies, see what he has to say then.


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    #5247
    BPKS
    Registered Users Posts: 16,692 ✭✭✭✭BPKS


    I don't believe it. They are playing a clip from Jenny Kelly's hen party.


    Next week, a clip from Rays stag. Which should go along the lines of:


    "Well lads. Did you see the rugby? Great game.

    Ok lads, have one more bottle of beer now and a few crisps, its almost 10 o clock and I have to go to bed.

    I've booked a taxi for the 4 of ye".


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    #5248
    djemba djemba
    Registered Users Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭djemba djemba


    Yes a dating segment


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    #5249
    tellmesomethin
    Registered Users Posts: 52 ✭✭tellmesomethin


    Texts have to be made up- the language/phrasing repeats alot.

    Of course, people text what Ray wants to hear so it might be read out. The audience wouldn't be the brightest to be nice about it.

    Are there that many emotional men in Ireland? The "I'm 6ft 9 trucker who is sobbing like a baby" texts are annoying.

    Mairead has no personality and Jenny sounds like the most horrid individual...


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    #5250
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users Posts: 9,500 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    tellmesomethin wrote: »
    Are there that many emotional men in Ireland? The "I'm 6ft 9 trucker who is sobbing like a baby" texts are annoying.

    People text that in to pisstake most likely.


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    #5251
    crazygeryy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,065 ✭✭✭crazygeryy


    runawaybishop wrote: »
    People text that in to pisstake most likely.

    maybe in some cases but theres ALWAYS ! some one in tears here in the car/kitchen etc etc


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